Numbers 31:17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18: But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. Numbers 31:17-18 (KJV)

This is one of the most disturbing set of passages that I have come across in the Bible. These passages basically state to Moses’s soldiers that it’s ‘OK’ to have sexual relations with “women children” that are obtained in war. The translation for “women children” is very misleading and it has been deliberately translated that way to deceive readers. In fact, when we look at the Hebrew words used for the verse, it just says female “children”, “little ones”. For further details that the passage speaks about children and not women click on the following article here.

Three accurate translations which clearly show that the passage only speaks about ‘female children’ are as follows:

Jubilee Bible 2000 – “But all the female children that have not known a man by lying with him keep alive for yourselves.” – Numbers 31:18

Webster’s Bible – “Translation But all the female children that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.” – Numbers 31:18

Living Bible (TLB) – “Only the little girls may live; you may keep them for yourselves.” – Numbers 31:18

Since it’s clear that Numbers 31:18 speaks about female children and not ‘women’, what does “keep alive for yourselves” mean? Of course the verse gave permission to Moses’s soldiers to marry those female children. However, don’t take my word for it, let’s see what Christian Bible commentaries say for the verse.

BIBLE COMMENTARIES

Whedon’s Commentary on the Bible:

Verse 17-18.
The little ones — The object of the command to kill every male was to exterminate the whole nation, the cup of whose iniquity was full. For the righteousness of the mode see Joshua 6:21, note. Every woman who might possibly have been engaged in the licentious worship of Peor was to share the fate of the male children, to preserve Israel from all taint of that abomination. The pure maidens could be incorporated into Israel without peril to the national religion. Joshua 6:23-25, notes. They could not be treated as concubines, since the law against fornication was in full force, (Deuteronomy 22:25-29,) but they could be lawfully married to their captors (Deuteronomy 21:10-14).



Peter Pett’s Commentary on the Bible:

Numbers 31:18
‘But all the women-children, who have not known man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.’ But the young women children were a different matter. They could be taken in marriage or as servants and would expect to accept the religion of their new husbands or masters. They would gradually be merged into Israel. Compare Deuteronomy 21:10-14. They would not feel the same responsibility for blood vengeance which was mainly incumbent on the males.



NIV: The New American Commentary – An Exegetical And Theological Exposition of Holy Scripture:

… Only the young girls would be allowed to live so that they may be taken as wives or slaves by Israelite men, according to the principles of holy war (Deut 20:13-14; 21:10-14). By this they could be brought under the umbrella of the covenant community of faith. [3]



John Dummelow’s Commentary on the Bible:

13-18. The male children are put to death in order that the race of idolaters may be extirpated. The older women are also slain as having been the prime cause of the apostasy, and likely to lead the people astray at a future time. The women-children, or young females, are spared, and are taken as slaves or wives, being probably adopted into the Hebrew nation as proselytes: cp. Deuteronomy 21:10-14. For the reason of such wholesale slaughter see Numbers 33:55; Deuteronomy 20:17-18; Joshua 23:13 and on Numbers 25:16-18. [4]



The above Bible commentaries quite clearly state that, “keep alive for yourselves” means those female children were to be married off to grown adult Israelite men. There is no mention anywhere in the commentaries that the girls have to grow up and hit puberty before they get married. I brought up the latter point, because some desperate missionaries claim that the girls had to grow up before a marriage took place. Numbers 31:18 in the Bible shows that Moses’s soldiers were commanded to marry pre-pubescent girls. This means that the holiest text of Christianity supports marrying and having sexual relations with pre-pubescent girls. This is concrete proof that the Bible endorses marriage with pre-pubescent girls. As we have read Numbers 31:18 and the Bible commentaries, they all state that marriage took place straight away.


In fact, in the Biblical commentaries already mentioned, they all refer to Deuteronomy 21:10-14 as evidence that the marriage took place straight away within a month. Let’s read the verse:

Deuteronomy 21:10-14 Good News Translation (GNT) – “When the Lord your God gives you victory in battle and you take prisoners, 11 you may see among them a beautiful woman that you like and want to marry. 12 Take her to your home, where she will shave her head, cut her fingernails, 13 and change her clothes. She is to stay in your home and mourn for her parents for a month; after that, you may marry her. 14 Later, if you no longer want her, you are to let her go free. Since you forced her to have intercourse with you, you cannot treat her as a slave and sell her.”

In the part where it says beautiful “woman”, the Hebrew word ‘ishshah’ is translated as ‘woman’ and it is also translated as “female” (when we consult Jubilee Bible and Webster’s Bible for Numbers 31:18, both of them translate the Hebrew word ‘Ishashah’ as ‘female’).

Reading Deuteronomy 21:10-14 we get a clear picture that YHWH commands its soldiers that when they go out in war and they see a beautiful females, and the soldier is attracted to her, he can “TAKE” the female and force her to marry him after one month. The word “take” is in of itself evidence that the females were taken without their consent i.e., they were forced into a marriage that they did not consent to. In verse 13 to 14 it goes further and states, that if the soldier were to not desire the female any-more he may let her go as he wishes because “you forced her to have intercourse with you”.

The period in which the soldier cannot marry her is within a one month period of mourning. After that period the soldier can do what he wishes to the female, as the verse clearly states.

Some Christianity religious practitioners will have it that:

(1) Those were Mosaic laws.
John 1:17
For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

(2) Those practices were in direct proportion to the nature of livelihood and mentality of the people of those days with the purpose of instilling fear into them or their enemies since it was the era of wars so anything goes.

(3) That Jesus Christ came and re-established (although some will say "fulfill" those laws because they were not "really" godly and were there just to serve the people at that time as evident in the New Testament that no occurrence like child marriage took place.
Matthew 5:17
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Acts 13:39
And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.


(4) That the advent of grace refined the law hence Christians are no longer bound to the law as schoolmasters like in the era of Moses, Joshua etc.
Galatians 3:24
Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

Galatians 3:25
But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
Luke 16:16
The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

Summary, technically those practices were of Moses and not really of God, hence the reestablishment by Christ or so they would say.

Hmm interesting. So sexual slavery is also in the Bible? And now they shout against muslims who practise it as if their God did not previously command it for centuries?

Anyway, like I always have said, christianity is adaptive; it always changes to suit the trends of the present day. That is why I feel it can no longer legitimately claim to be from God and why I no longer subscribe to it.

Biodun556:
Numbers 31:17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18: But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. Numbers 31:17-18 (KJV)

This is one of the most disturbing set of passages that I have come across in the Bible. These passages basically state to Moses’s soldiers that it’s ‘OK’ to have sexual relations with “women children” that are obtained in war. The translation for “women children” is very misleading and it has been deliberately translated that way to deceive readers. In fact, when we look at the Hebrew words used for the verse, it just says female “children”, “little ones”. For further details that the passage speaks about children and not women click on the following article here.

Three accurate translations which clearly show that the passage only speaks about ‘female children’ are as follows:

Jubilee Bible 2000 – “But all the female children that have not known a man by lying with him keep alive for yourselves.” – Numbers 31:18

Webster’s Bible – “Translation But all the female children that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.” – Numbers 31:18

Living Bible (TLB) – “Only the little girls may live; you may keep them for yourselves.” – Numbers 31:18

Since it’s clear that Numbers 31:18 speaks about female children and not ‘women’, what does “keep alive for yourselves” mean? Of course the verse gave permission to Moses’s soldiers to marry those female children. However, don’t take my word for it, let’s see what Christian Bible commentaries say for the verse.

BIBLE COMMENTARIES

Whedon’s Commentary on the Bible:

Verse 17-18.
The little ones — The object of the command to kill every male was to exterminate the whole nation, the cup of whose iniquity was full. For the righteousness of the mode see Joshua 6:21, note. Every woman who might possibly have been engaged in the licentious worship of Peor was to share the fate of the male children, to preserve Israel from all taint of that abomination. The pure maidens could be incorporated into Israel without peril to the national religion. Joshua 6:23-25, notes. They could not be treated as concubines, since the law against fornication was in full force, (Deuteronomy 22:25-29,) but they could be lawfully married to their captors (Deuteronomy 21:10-14).



Peter Pett’s Commentary on the Bible:

Numbers 31:18
‘But all the women-children, who have not known man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.’ But the young women children were a different matter. They could be taken in marriage or as servants and would expect to accept the religion of their new husbands or masters. They would gradually be merged into Israel. Compare Deuteronomy 21:10-14. They would not feel the same responsibility for blood vengeance which was mainly incumbent on the males.



NIV: The New American Commentary – An Exegetical And Theological Exposition of Holy Scripture:

… Only the young girls would be allowed to live so that they may be taken as wives or slaves by Israelite men, according to the principles of holy war (Deut 20:13-14; 21:10-14). By this they could be brought under the umbrella of the covenant community of faith. [3]



John Dummelow’s Commentary on the Bible:

13-18. The male children are put to death in order that the race of idolaters may be extirpated. The older women are also slain as having been the prime cause of the apostasy, and likely to lead the people astray at a future time. The women-children, or young females, are spared, and are taken as slaves or wives, being probably adopted into the Hebrew nation as proselytes: cp. Deuteronomy 21:10-14. For the reason of such wholesale slaughter see Numbers 33:55; Deuteronomy 20:17-18; Joshua 23:13 and on Numbers 25:16-18. [4]



The above Bible commentaries quite clearly state that, “keep alive for yourselves” means those female children were to be married off to grown adult Israelite men. There is no mention anywhere in the commentaries that the girls have to grow up and hit puberty before they get married. I brought up the latter point, because some desperate missionaries claim that the girls had to grow up before a marriage took place. Numbers 31:18 in the Bible shows that Moses’s soldiers were commanded to marry pre-pubescent girls. This means that the holiest text of Christianity supports marrying and having sexual relations with pre-pubescent girls. This is concrete proof that the Bible endorses marriage with pre-pubescent girls. As we have read Numbers 31:18 and the Bible commentaries, they all state that marriage took place straight away.


In fact, in the Biblical commentaries already mentioned, they all refer to Deuteronomy 21:10-14 as evidence that the marriage took place straight away within a month. Let’s read the verse:

Deuteronomy 21:10-14 Good News Translation (GNT) – “When the Lord your God gives you victory in battle and you take prisoners, 11 you may see among them a beautiful woman that you like and want to marry. 12 Take her to your home, where she will shave her head, cut her fingernails, 13 and change her clothes. She is to stay in your home and mourn for her parents for a month; after that, you may marry her. 14 Later, if you no longer want her, you are to let her go free. Since you forced her to have intercourse with you, you cannot treat her as a slave and sell her.”

In the part where it says beautiful “woman”, the Hebrew word ‘ishshah’ is translated as ‘woman’ and it is also translated as “female” (when we consult Jubilee Bible and Webster’s Bible for Numbers 31:18, both of them translate the Hebrew word ‘Ishashah’ as ‘female’).

Reading Deuteronomy 21:10-14 we get a clear picture that YHWH commands its soldiers that when they go out in war and they see a beautiful females, and the soldier is attracted to her, he can “TAKE” the female and force her to marry him after one month. The word “take” is in of itself evidence that the females were taken without their consent i.e., they were forced into a marriage that they did not consent to. In verse 13 to 14 it goes further and states, that if the soldier were to not desire the female any-more he may let her go as he wishes because “you forced her to have intercourse with you”.

The period in which the soldier cannot marry her is within a one month period of mourning. After that period the soldier can do what he wishes to the female, as the verse clearly states.

The old testament has nothing to do christianity

Psalmy2cute:

The old testament has nothing to do christianity

So it was not inspired by the same God (Jesus)? Those commands to rape female children must have been given to Moses by Jesus (since Jesus is God).

You misconstrued that quotation Sir!

"Keep alive for yourself"

Mean "preserve those ones for yourselves"

NOT "have SEX with them"

The will keep them alive until they're fully grown then share them within themselves Sir!

That's why you can never find anywhere in that book where an underage girl is defiled according to the instruction of their God!

Maximus69:
You misconstrued that quotation Sir!

"Keep alive for yourself"

Mean "preserve those ones for yourselves"

NOT "have SEX with them"

The will keep them alive until they're fully grown then share them within themselves Sir!

That's why you can never find anywhere in that book where an underage girl is defiled according to the instruction of their God!

Very funny.

Bluezy13:
Some Christianity religious practitioners will have it that:

(1) Those were Mosaic laws.
John 1:17
For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

(2) Those practices were in direct proportion to the nature of livelihood and mentality of the people of those days with the purpose of instilling fear into them or their enemies since it was the era of wars so anything goes.

(3) That Jesus Christ came and re-established (although some will say "fulfill" those laws because they were not "really" godly and were there just to serve the people at that time as evident in the New Testament that no occurrence like child marriage took place.
Matthew 5:17
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Acts 13:39
And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.


(4) That the advent of grace refined the law hence Christians are no longer bound to the law as schoolmasters like in the era of Moses, Joshua etc.
Galatians 3:24
Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

Galatians 3:25
But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
Luke 16:16
The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

Summary, technically those practices were of Moses and not really of God, hence the reestablishment by Christ or so they would say.

god is a perv simple and short

TheSourcerer:
god is a perv simple and short

To say god is a pervert is to
(1) acknowledge the existence of an Intelligence or a supreme being/form
(2)who possesses cognitive and mental processes like human beings,
(3) occupies a place
(4) where there are infant, juvenile and mature beings of his likes/nature...
(5) perhaps opposite in gender,
(6) capable of having sexual intercourse with him while
(7)he only/also settles for the juveniles
( because he possesses sexual urge.

I don't believe in the existence of god let alone the god being a pervert.

Psalmy2cute:

The old testament has nothing to do christianity

So why do you have it, study it and use it as prayer points

It is very absurd to exclude the old testament from Christianity just like saying the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria has nothing to with Nigeria.
Really, what manner of reasoning is that
I guess you Christians are confused.

Maximus69:
You misconstrued that quotation Sir!

"Keep alive for yourself"

Mean "preserve those ones for yourselves"

NOT "have SEX with them"

The will keep them alive until they're fully grown then share them within themselves Sir!

That's why you can never find anywhere in that book where an underage girl is defiled according to the instruction of their God!

Obviously you didn't consult your bible to verify the things he posted up there.
It is clearly stated that after taking the little women, one month is spared for them to mourn their lost families after which they are to be immediately engaged in sex rump.

Your category of Christians can't locate the book of Habakuk in the Bible, because you don't open your Bibles, let alone study it if at all you have it.

Christianity is none of my business but I had to consult the bible to confirm the authenticity of the things he posted up there...for knowledge sake.

RisenPhoenix:


So it was not inspired by the same God (Jesus)? Those commands to rape female children must have been given to Moses by Jesus (since Jesus is God).

Why is Jesus overshadowed in all Christian doctrine? Is it God or Jesus that divide the Bible into old and new?

Bluezy13:


Obviously you didn't consult your bible to verify the things he posted up there.
It is clearly stated that after taking the little women, one month is spared for them to mourn their lost families after which they are to be immediately engaged in sex rump.

Your category of Christians can't locate the book of Habakuk in the Bible, because you don't open your Bibles, let alone study it if at all you have it.

Christianity is none of my business but I had to consult the bible to confirm the authenticity of the things he posted up there...for knowledge sake.

You've tried Sir, and i really appreciate your interest in our book (Bible).

Please was the age of the captives mentioned?

What was written their is YOUNG WOMEN!

And for your information, young women starts at a marriageable age of about 18 plus today.

While the Jews have in their custom that a man shouldn't be less than 30 years old before he can think of marriage!

So what makes you conclude that the so called YOUNG WOMEN could be underaged?

Remember the Bible talks of CHILDREN, was it found anywhere in the book where the age limit of CHILDREN ends?

If the book now says YOUNG WOMEN, is it not reasonable to conclude that a nation where adulthood begins at 30 for men will also have something at least not too far from that to quantify what they will term as YOUNG WOMEN?

Please don't allow these pedophiles to woo you over to their lawless thinking, all they're trying to do is justifying the barbaric acts the Arabians FORCED down the throats of their ancestors in the name of religion!

Maximus69:


You've tried Sir, and i really appreciate your interest in our book (Bible).

Please was the age of the captives mentioned?

What was written their is YOUNG WOMEN!

And for your information, young women starts at a marriageable age of about 18 plus today.

While the Jews have in their custom that a man shouldn't be less than 30 years old before he can think of marriage!

So what makes you conclude that the so called YOUNG WOMEN could be underaged?

Remember the Bible talks of CHILDREN, was it found anywhere in the book where the age limit of CHILDREN ends?

If the book now says YOUNG WOMEN, is it not reasonable to conclude that a nation where adulthood begins at 30 for men will also have something at least not too far from that to quantify what they will term as YOUNG WOMEN?

Please don't allow these pedophiles to woo you over to their lawless thinking, all they're trying to do is justifying the barbaric acts the Arabian FORCED down the throat of their ancestors as a religion!

Numbers 31:17
KJV:Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

Numbers 31:18
KJV:But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

Notice in verse 17, they killed all the male among the "little ones"
This simply implies that no little female was killed, irrespective of the age...whether 2, 5, 10, 12 years etc.
Then in verse 18, they must keep alive for themselves...

Deuteronomy 21:10-14 is evidence that the marriage took place straight away within a month.

And don't forget the fact that these little women were sexually violated against their will...they were forced into marriages because they had no choice. That is the definition of Rape

If I were you, instead of trying to defend the Bible, I would research to ascertain the veracity of what the Bible says.

Bluezy13:


To say god is a pervert is to
(1) acknowledge the existence of an Intelligence or a supreme being/form
(2)who possesses cognitive and mental processes like human beings,
(3) occupies a place
(4) where there are infant, juvenile and mature beings of his likes/nature...
(5) perhaps opposite in gender,
(6) capable of having sexual intercourse with him while
(7)he only/also settles for the juveniles
( because he possesses sexual urge.

I don't believe in the existence of god let alone the god being a pervert.

true he doesn't exist to dignify been called a perv
Remember Mary? She was 14 before he stuck his holy rod in her ,Pedo much

TheSourcerer:
true he doesn't exist to dignify been called a perv
Remember Mary? She was 14 before he stuck his holy rod in her ,Pedo much

I don't understand your point

Bluezy13:


Numbers 31:17
KJV:Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

Numbers 31:18
KJV:But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

Notice in verse 17, they killed all the male among the "little ones"
This simply implies that no little female was killed, irrespective of the age...whether 2, 5, 10, 12 years etc.
Then in verse 18, they must keep alive for themselves...

Deuteronomy 21:10-14 is evidence that the marriage took place straight away within a month.

And don't forget the fact that these little women were sexually violated against their will...they were forced into marriages because they had no choice. That is the definition of Rape

If I were you, instead of trying to defend the Bible, I would research to ascertain the veracity of what the Bible says.

You're still saying the same thing here!

What you quoted never said "have SEX with minors", the age of young women in the context is unknown.

While their law stipulates that they MUST NOT RAPE!

So if you hear that they share the young women amongst themselves and marriage follows after a month, common sense should teach you that a young woman old enough to know how to MOURN one's dead relatives can't be a minor!

Minors only know food clothing and shelter, once these are adequately provided, you'll see them play around with their mates. It's young women who had passed that age that will continue to mourn all their dead relatives. So to make such ones realize that they now have a new home, the law says make them wives in your homes!

Women weren't recruited in the army back then, so there is no fear of retaliation from females, but the young men will grow to become fighters, and there is every probability that such ones could think of revenge. So the law says exterminate them all!

Even during that time, some foreigners whose people were killed by the Israelites believed that what the God of Israel teaches with his laws are just. Many of them even became warriors fighting in support of ISRAEL!

So calm down to know what you don't understand, if those whose people were exterminated by the Israelites, could nationalise themselves as Israelites to the point of fighting as soldiers for ISRAEL, what then do you think you who lives thousands of year after all these events know about the judicial decision of the Israelite God that attracted such honest hearted and sincere people?

Bluezy13:


To say god is a pervert is to
(1) acknowledge the existence of an Intelligence or a supreme being/form
(2)who possesses cognitive and mental processes like human beings,
(3) occupies a place
(4) where there are infant, juvenile and mature beings of his likes/nature...
(5) perhaps opposite in gender,
(6) capable of having sexual intercourse with him while
(7)he only/also settles for the juveniles
( because he possesses sexual urge.

I don't believe in the existence of god let alone the god being a pervert.

OK you don't believe in the existence of God!

No wonder you're trying to rubbish any idea of a just and upright God.

Well i'm Maximus, you're welcome on board. I've taught many of your leaders about FAITH and their intelligence was adequately insulted after discussing with me!

You'll know that there is no sense in ATHEISM if you are prepared to use your intellect not what your professors infused in your brains. But if you feel that since i'm also a student tutored by some religious teachers, and you feel like having a taste of the power of higher intelligence (GOD) then i'll say you're welcome on board once again!

Bluezy13:


I don't understand your point

.

Bluezy13:


I don't understand your point

Fvck it

Maximus69:


OK you don't believe in the existence of God!

No wonder you're trying to rubbish any idea of a just and upright God.

Every post I know I have made is based on a neutral point of view and with the bible as a reference.

Can you honestly point out any post i have made so far to rubbish a just and upright God

If Yes, then point it out.
If No, then stop wasting my time.

TheSourcerer:
Fvck it

Bluezy13:


Every post I know I have made is based on a neutral point of view and with the bible as a reference.

Can you honestly point out any post i have made so far to rubbish a just and upright God

If Yes, then point it out.
If No, then stop wasting my time.

Your post is clear that "you don't believe in the existence of God" and you've been quoting the Bible out of context to prove the INSENSIBILITY of God's word.

So what further evidence do i need to know that you're trying to rubbish a just God?

Well i'm one of his friends, and i'm here to defend his words as you've said. Therefore if you still feel that there are things that seems not right in his judicial decisions, you can point them out and i'll be glad to discuss with you.

As for your time, i'm not interested in that because you quoted me first, so if you've got NOTHING to say again about the words of my friend nobody is holding you back from taking your leave, you're free to go!

Maximus69:


Your post is clear that "you don't believe in the existence of God" and you've been quoting the Bible out of context to prove the INSENSIBILITY of God's word.

So what further evidence do i need to know that you're trying to rubbish a just God?

Well i'm one of his friends, and i'm here to defend his words as you've said. Therefore if you still feel that there are things that seems not right in his judicial decisions, you can point them out and i'll be glad to discuss with you.

As for your time, i'm not interested in that because you quoted me first, so if you've got NOTHING to say again about the words of my friend nobody is holding you back from taking your leave, you're free to go!

Ok.

If the Bible was divinely inspired, then why would it have so many really obvious contradictions?
Theological doctrines:

1. God is satisfied with his works

Gen 1:31

God is dissatisfied with his works.

Gen 6:6

2. God dwells in chosen temples

2 Chron 7:12,16

God dwells not in temples

Acts 7:48

3. God dwells in light

Tim 6:16

God dwells in darkness

Bible is like an argumentative essay among its authors.

The Bible is the root word of the word "bibliography". A bibliography is a combination of books of different authors. No pages of the Bible itself make reference to the word "Bible".

These are some of the arguments and opinions of Bible authors:

4. God is seen and heard

Ex 33:23/ Ex 33:11/ Gen 3:9,10/ Gen 32:30/ Is 6:1/

Ex 24:9-11

God is invisible and cannot be heard

John 1:18/ John 5:37/ Ex 33:20/ 1 Tim 6:16

5. God is tired and rests

Ex 31:17

God is never tired and never rests

Is 40:28

6. God is everywhere present, sees and knows all things

Prov 15:3/ Ps 139:7-10/ Job 34:22,21

God is not everywhere present, neither sees nor knows all

things

Gen 11:5/ Gen 18:20,21/ Gen 3:8

7. God knows the hearts of men

Acts 1:24/ Ps 139:2,3

God tries men to find out what is in their heart

Deut 13:3/ Deut 8:2/ Gen 22:12

Bluezy13:

Do you believe in the devil?

Biodun556:
Bible is like an argumentative essay among its authors.

The Bible is the root word of the word "bibliography". A bibliography is a combination of books of different authors. No pages of the Bible itself make reference to the word "Bible".

These are some of the arguments and opinions of Bible authors:

4. God is seen and heard

Ex 33:23/ Ex 33:11/ Gen 3:9,10/ Gen 32:30/ Is 6:1/

Ex 24:9-11

God is invisible and cannot be heard

John 1:18/ John 5:37/ Ex 33:20/ 1 Tim 6:16

5. God is tired and rests

Ex 31:17

God is never tired and never rests

Is 40:28

6. God is everywhere present, sees and knows all things

Prov 15:3/ Ps 139:7-10/ Job 34:22,21

God is not everywhere present, neither sees nor knows all

things

Gen 11:5/ Gen 18:20,21/ Gen 3:8

7. God knows the hearts of men

Acts 1:24/ Ps 139:2,3

God tries men to find out what is in their heart

Deut 13:3/ Deut 8:2/ Gen 22:12
!

I like this guy .

TheSourcerer:
Do you believe in the devil?

No

Maximus69:


Your post is clear that "you don't believe in the existence of God" and you've been quoting the Bible out of context to prove the INSENSIBILITY of God's word.

So what further evidence do i need to know that you're trying to rubbish a just God?

Well i'm one of his friends, and i'm here to defend his words as you've said. Therefore if you still feel that there are things that seems not right in his judicial decisions, you can point them out and i'll be glad to discuss with you.

As for your time, i'm not interested in that because you quoted me first, so if you've got NOTHING to say again about the words of my friend nobody is holding you back from taking your leave, you're free to go!

hahaha can you believe this guy?.! Haha

Bluezy13:


No

I kinda wish there was a devil. ,
It would have been awesome

TheSourcerer:
I kinda wish there was a devil. , It would have been awesome

If there would be a devil, then there also would be a god to balance existence.