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Re: The Preaching Of Work Based Salvation by asalimpo(m): 6:21pm On Jun 02, 2019 |
budaatum:i could bet a huge sum tht wmn like you hav nothing intelligent to say other cheap insults. I meet ur type in real life. Brimming with insults nd self entitlemnts because their pvssy intoxcates them. But swerve the topic to something cerebral, try to get them to defend their stances logically nd coherently,and u begin to see a change: they go quiet. Then their eyes roll over nd they get sleepy. Nxt they wanna bolt! You nothing non-base in you. I could go thru,your titles to prove my point. You mentally nd intellectually barren. All u hav to urself,is ur base-overflated ego based on ur feminity nd nothing else. You r pathetic nd i feel sorry for you. Women like you. |
Re: The Preaching Of Work Based Salvation by budaatum: 6:31pm On Jun 02, 2019 |
asalimpo:I intoxicate you obviously, lol. 1 Like |
Re: The Preaching Of Work Based Salvation by asalimpo(m): 6:34pm On Jun 02, 2019 |
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Re: The Preaching Of Work Based Salvation by Nobody: 6:41pm On Jun 02, 2019 |
budaatum:Imagine Jesus standing at a corner and watching you saying all of that just to make a response to a person whose minds is full of HURTFUL things! Luke 6:45 Where is that spirit he promised to help in reminding you {John 14:26} of what he thought when people with such spirits like this surface? Matthew 5:38-39, 47-48 Budaatum! You just need to learn from true Christians so that the holy spirit will dwell with you, helping you to prove your worth before anyone! 1Peter 3:15 God bless you! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Preaching Of Work Based Salvation by budaatum: 6:44pm On Jun 02, 2019 |
TATIME:You know me Tatime. I only need to prove my worth before the Lord my God, and even when I fail, I can still rely on God's Grace. This satan deserves my wrath! |
Re: The Preaching Of Work Based Salvation by Nobody: 4:28am On Jun 04, 2019 |
Wow! That guy is meanness to the fullest and yet he claim to be follower of Jesus? No true follower of Jesus would be as acutely antiwomen as that, but maybe buda is reaping the harvest of the malicious lies buda's been planting all over the religious section concerning someone innocent. So to that extent buda deserves some of the abuse buda's getting from such an abusive man. Matthew 7:12 (KJV) Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets. |
Re: The Preaching Of Work Based Salvation by budaatum: 4:32am On Jun 04, 2019 |
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Re: The Preaching Of Work Based Salvation by Nobody: 4:44am On Jun 04, 2019 |
budaatum:Truth hurts but thanks buda for repeating it. Maybe it's time for you to keep silent while I talk, because all the while you've been the one talking while I've been silent. So maybe the switching of roles is a very wise idea, though I won't descend to your abyss of spreading and endorsing lies about you behind your back as you'd done to me severally. So that should distinguish the diff between us. |
Re: The Preaching Of Work Based Salvation by budaatum: 4:50am On Jun 04, 2019 |
jesusjnr:You know buda waiting for evidence of the "malicious lies" you accuse buda of spreading. Please jnr, the floor is yours. |
Re: The Preaching Of Work Based Salvation by Nobody: 5:13am On Jun 04, 2019 |
budaatum:My pleasure buda. But you gonna give me sometime because it's gonna take some extensive digging considering the span to which you've have spread such "malicious lies". |
Re: The Preaching Of Work Based Salvation by budaatum: 8:49pm On Jun 06, 2019 |
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Re: The Preaching Of Work Based Salvation by Nobody: 5:41am On Jun 07, 2019 |
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Re: The Preaching Of Work Based Salvation by Nobody: 5:50am On Jun 07, 2019 |
budaatum:Yes buda should give me some time for I've been quite busy of late, and could only respond to mentions or make comments that do not require much digging and stress. So delayal is not denial buda, of course except in your deluded mind. I'm not even a liar, not to talk being a "malicious liar" and "false accuser" as yourself, so whenever I say something against someone, I am sure of what i'm saying and usually have proof to back it up as in this case. So I'd definitely do as I've said, latest by Monday next week, when I have enough time to do it. Kapish! |
Re: The Preaching Of Work Based Salvation by Nobody: 9:00pm On Jun 10, 2019 |
budaatum:I apologize buda for the prolonged delay, but having to dig up past posts is one of the things I dread most in this forum, and worse still when one is also distracted by family matters etc. But no more excuses since I am obligated to keep my word concerning the latest day to provide evidence of the "malicious lies" i accused you of spreading which is today. So let me first set the tone by mentioning related comments tatime made to you concerning me which was in response to this your post: budaatum: And this was tatime's second response to that post: TATIME: budaatum: Now from this your lol response to tatime's comment it was obvious that you believed he had said the truth about me, that he left after I started to discredit those that taught him after that post of his, hence your next question. But if my interpretation of your response to his comment was wrong, then you can explain to me why it was wrong. But if my interpretation was right, then you can explain to me why you'd easily believe what tatime had said without first verifying if what he said was the truth and not a lie. I mean it's that simple for this actually happened in a thread you were very active in and familiar with. And you can track the conversation that ensued between me and tatime via this link: https://www.nairaland.com/4798829/believing-jesus-without-obeying-words/2#72464828 For that was what i did when I first saw the comment tatime had made to you, for although I already knew it was a lie, i still had to go back to dig up the conversation to be sure that I was right, for It was actually then I got to know that I had not responded once to any of tatime's subsequent comments on that particular thread after the first one, knowing that what he proposed was not something new, but a group i already very well knew and had encountered severally beforehand that I had stopped conversations with them as it has proven very unfruitful and a waste of time. And I also saw that it was actually tatime that started with ridiculing my comments. The point is why did he have resort to lies, and not just at least say something I said or did, and use that instead to drive home his point concerning me. Yes he left but go and verify how he left if he left for the same reason he said he left. That's why when I see your conversations concerning me I just laugh, because that's a conversation with someone that deliberately fashioned a lie against me and falsely accused me, so that strips the conversation of any credibility and thus not worthy of being taking seriously. TATIME: For instance the bolded is another blatant lie for if you actually go to the thread, you'd see that it was actually albaghdadi that made such a comment. And ordinarily I would have called it a mistake, but when tatime had already told several lies beforehand, it's hard to see it as anythings else but being characteristic of the liar that tatime was. For he can mock all he wants for he's entitled to his opinion but when he has to resort to lies, then it becomes a whole different matter. And the reason you are being implicated in this malicious lie, is because you actually instigated it and easily fell for it without first of all verifying the veracity of such claims to prove if tatime was actually saying the truth or lying. |
Re: The Preaching Of Work Based Salvation by Nobody: 9:10pm On Jun 10, 2019 |
budaatum: budaatum: Now "stealing God's glory" is a very serious offense, therefore anyone that accuses someone of such should be very sure they know what they're talking about, for this is a very serious allegation and not a joke. And it's obvious that you were speaking of me in particular judging from the direction your exchanges with tatime took. So you'd have to provide an evidence of me doing that, otherwise you'd confirm that it was a malicious lies told against my person. |
Re: The Preaching Of Work Based Salvation by Nobody: 9:20pm On Jun 10, 2019 |
budaatum: budaatum: Now this seemed a repeat of the lie of "stealing God's glory" which you already accused me of in your conversation with tatime, to prove that the first time was not a mistake or a coincidence but a deliberate act of malice, but if you are think otherwise you would have to prove my assertion otherwise. For do you think that it's by coincidence that you and Michelle who had both been nairalanders for over fifteen years combined, all of a sudden got converted from atheism and that I who had only been in nairaland for just a few months played a major role in both your conversions? What you don't realize is the extent of investment or sacrifice that had been put into this beforehand for me to be able to achieve such results, for it's not by coincidence for such can never be by coincidence but a testament and fruit of my labor and efforts long before i ever became a nairalander, and also revealed the extent of my walk with God. So why do you think I shouldn't rejoice over what God has used me to achieve to this extent in nairaland, which is a proof in itself that it pays to give God "total love" and not "partial love" as most often do these days? For in my own opinion God deserves everything, so anything short of everything is not good enough for Him, so when I see that such an orientation has been justified by such a result, and rejoice about it, could that possibly not be to God glory? Therefore that was the reason I was very excited about that, because believe me buda, e no easy at all, I just wish you could understand the extent of what had been committed to this cause, because it's only then you'd be able to empathize with my reaction. But it seems you have a serious problem with that, and not just you but several other christians here as though I was bragging and proud, and it's possible that I may have taken it over the top, but all in all it was only a testament to the extent of my commitment to God's interest and meant to serve as an example for people to do likewise so that God could be able to use them to achieve likewise. And buda, you know the others who had also contributed to your change of heart, but tell me the truth, you who have been here since 2006, if the role that God had used jesusjnr to play towards that accomplishment was taken out of the equation, do you think that buda would have become a theist by now? For I can remember the several conversations i had with you here, such as when you said "not many here would believe what you said about me..."(https://www.nairaland.com/4798829/believing-jesus-without-obeying-words#72328381)and when i also said you were better than most christians I had met here etc. And also how you were able to discern my quality from the onset hence my saying that you were the first atheist to discover me in Nairaland, and so it wasn't surprising when you later started calling me Jesus then instead of jesusjnr even though I strongly disapproved of it. And I can also remember not long before your conversion, when i asked you what you were still doing in atheism or what else you needed or were still waiting for? So when I say that my efforts had played a major role in your conversion, is it without substance? But maybe you know something I don't know, and I would like to hear it. But if i'm right and you are just being envious, why not submit yourself completely to God's Will as I had done, so that He could use you to achieve likewise? Because that's what I did with Jesus, I was envious of His achievements and also that of His disciples, but I didn't stop at that, but I followed their example and that's why God is able to use me to the extent that He used them and this is just the beginning. Otherwise I would have just been envious and I would die being envious, because unless I did likewise, God would not be able to use me to the extent to which He used them. So buda, don't just do envy but do likewise, even if not my example that of Jesus is there for you to follow, otherwise to be honest with you, you would not be any different but just be as mediocre as most of those repented christians here are, for it takes something extra, to be able to achieve something extra with God. Matthew 16:24 (KJV) Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. |
Re: The Preaching Of Work Based Salvation by Nobody: 12:37am On Jun 11, 2019 |
jesusjnr:A righteous man is as bold as a lion,but a sinner is always cautious and running away without anyone pursuing him.... Everyone you accuse either of stalking you,spoiling your reputation,or accusing you wrongly....in a haste to acquint himself from a case that he just cooked up in his warped mind..always defensive and wanna clear his name from scandals he "assumes" exist. Is this what Jesus will do? Jesus that said little to no words in defense when Pilate,herod and caiphas questioned him on the allegations of him by the Jews .... You are a joke! We need a cure from this your malady.... BTW,be aware you aren't in the thoughts of any Nlander...once they go offline, you are wiped off their memory,you aren't worth committing into memory...infact you ain't worth the time of budaatum and others you accuse of accusing you. They have a life aside Nland, sadly you don't! 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Preaching Of Work Based Salvation by budaatum: 2:12am On Jun 11, 2019 |
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Re: The Preaching Of Work Based Salvation by budaatum: 10:36am On Jun 11, 2019 |
jnr attempts to steal God's Glory! for buda's adoption of theism, which he had absolutely nothing to do with In fact, jnr's supposed Christian behaviour is a reason for buda not being a Christian because if buda behaves as jnr does buda will burn in the hottest part of hell! The evidence for the above has been provided above by jnr! |
Re: The Preaching Of Work Based Salvation by Nobody: 5:06pm On Jun 11, 2019 |
Lol! jesusjnr stealing God's glory by buda and had absolutely nothing to do with buda's conversion when buda said this during that time. Not surprising how buda changes "her" position like the wind. But the most important thing is not who God used in the process of buda's conversion, but that buda has been converted. Glory be to God!
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Re: The Preaching Of Work Based Salvation by Ubenedictus(m): 8:45pm On Jun 11, 2019 |
You guys are grown up, stop all this. |
Re: The Preaching Of Work Based Salvation by Freeze007(m): 3:05pm On Jan 20, 2020 |
What does this post aim to achieve, please pardon my curiosity budaatum: |
Re: The Preaching Of Work Based Salvation by budaatum: 3:53pm On Jan 20, 2020 |
Freeze007:Did you read the whole thread? Did you notice the Nobody and know how he became a Nobody? No pardon necesary. It isn't to easy to understand. The aim of this post is to make those who read it curious enough that they do the work (read it, ponder on it, question the author extensively) to try to understand it and not just be lazy fuqs who don't use their brain at all as some claim one should not. |
Re: The Preaching Of Work Based Salvation by Freeze007(m): 5:33pm On Jan 20, 2020 |
In all honesty I think the bible shouldn't be a guide at all, maybe you should pick one or two inspirations from it, but is not a guide in anyway. The guide is a PRACTICAL LEADING demonstrating true meaning harmonious life which we easily if we look. We are enslaved in a traditional bearing whose bearing has no root but produced more evil than Good.. Rather than study the book, I'd rather one studies his potente, harness that into the betterment of HUMANITY than wasting our previous time believing fictitious characters who would never ever come back as the bible describes...Would you be heartless to allow others in your family suffer while others are being enriched, what the STUPID fuq religion even the bible is doing to our heads. As you already know, everyone cannot understand the book, the same way everyone will not understand physics, chemistry etc so why make it a book for me to read, is that not set back on its own in its entirety?? I hate the bible because it is creating more enemies than when we were together as one, believing just one....Let us go back to BROTHERHOOD, this you are thought by conscience, instinct, and daily experiences how one should live his life, otherwise what does the bible aim to achieve that was not given us as morales by our first ancestor who is GOD....Because God exists in all planes, in Akwa Ibom as Iko , South east, Ogbu, etc...Our culture would not and ever lie to us, but others may force us to work with their concept but if we are wise we'd know better My religion is LOVE NATURE is my Teacher Experiences my lesson not some books called bible.... Peace and love budaatum: |
Re: The Preaching Of Work Based Salvation by budaatum: 6:16pm On Jan 20, 2020 |
Freeze007:It is very difficult for most to imagine living in a world with people who have not been guided by a religion, or its advanced form which is what education is. If they could imagine such a world, or better still, learn proper history, they'd be delighted that religion exists to instill a common ideology into a group of people thereby uniting them so they can evolve from the muddy disorganised apes that they are with everyone making up their own truth as they go along, into the more organised humans we see around us today sharing the same values to a large extent. I guess many think there used to be some glorious past when the truth is, there never was a time "when we were together as one, believing just one", nor was there some "BROTHERHOOD" to go back to. We, humans have always created enemies based on our own ideologies and actions, and the less knowledgeable we are the more enemies we created and the more like animals we behaved. Contrary to your view that the "Bible is creating more enemies", the Bible actually exhorts us to love one another and build a glorious future. And you don't even have to read it, though we hope most do. But even if you don't those around you would ensure it is weaved into our collective psyche as we gradually evolve. The only pity is that we have not evolved past the believing it and worshipping stage to the understanding age. But we will. With time and experience we will acquire knowledge and eventually become wise and learn to live in peace. |
Re: The Preaching Of Work Based Salvation by Freeze007(m): 12:11am On Jan 21, 2020 |
If whatever we have been nurtured with,has a religion incline undertone what is the bases? Can a government run two parallel government? The moment we all see religion for what it is the better for everyone involved even though this age is the Aquarian age, where so many people would be enlightened. How come people study the bible still do not read the coded messages embedded in them,after all, the Jesus the Christ who is the figure head of the bible did not find any religion his ultimate teachings centres on love something highly debated because of various accounts because there was a point he asked some people to not go to certain people. I am not here to disprove whatever anyone lives by,all I am saying is people should start questioning everything, out of curiosity deeper understanding about the creator is gotten...We were never divided, our curiousity led us to be separately displaced. And we had all evolved where we found ourselves, now that we have gathered so much knowledge there is need to share our experiences to forge ahead and a lasting society where peace and love abound. I do not need the scripture to tell me what I am about doing is wrong, however, we still go ahead, the beauty of the golden principle is we take responsibility for every actions...Did you not know about love before reading the bible?? It is a CORE in some cultures like man... Let us be wise, , as budaatum: budaatum: |
Re: The Preaching Of Work Based Salvation by budaatum: 12:59am On Jan 21, 2020 |
Freeze007:The above, is religion, and its why we have religion, to share knowledge that we have. And the knowledge that we currently have is of a religious type, in Bible's and Qurans. When we know better, we'd share our better, but we don't know any better at the moment and share the best we have, in our religion, and religiously. Examples of sharing 'better' is better schools, libraries, teachers, etc than we currently have. If you've seen what others are sharing you'd understand what I mean. In most of Europe, they've shared so much that they've killed their gods and evolve past the religious stage and into the scientific age. We will evolve too, someday. |
Re: The Preaching Of Work Based Salvation by Freeze007(m): 11:08am On Jan 21, 2020 |
In the schools or teaching platform they were able to realize set backs which religion was key to. They became more practical and a little bit of spirituality, which is indeed a necessary ingredients from practical experiences and not the bible, for example, they knew to get accurate result on some adventures they had to be chaste, away from a lot things which you definitely key into. Our shouting Jesus power upandan and Satan power powerless power is taking us no where. Let me ask you, how many research centres or laboratories have been able to indigenously produce something? Where a white man, he is very practicable, uses experience to justify his comment and not just believe. God is esoteric, he is not livid, God promotes curious souls, if you are not curious to know why, you would have very limited knowledge. To be blunt, God is the first scientist, until we see religion as a scam for which it is, the better for us. More of, is the bastardization of their elements in this part of the world. If there is anywhere in the world that uses the platform to drive technology then they have my full support. It is true, you must belong somewhere to learn, but not this clime called Nigeria. I just hope you get my point budaatum: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Preaching Of Work Based Salvation by shadeyinka(m): 2:09pm On Jan 30, 2020 |
budaatum:Well written: Our Salvation and Justification is purely by grace and not of works (any one can take it or leave it). No one can merit it! It is given to whoever has recieved grace to recieve it. Works only determine how we are rewarded after our salvation. For by works through the word and by God's Spirit, we bear fruit. |
Re: The Preaching Of Work Based Salvation by budaatum: 3:35pm On Jan 30, 2020 |
shadeyinka:You did not include the conclusion! The grace itself is there for you to receive because others worked so you may have that grace. An example being the immense work Jesus did dying on a cross so you may hear of it and be saved. Your receipt of it is work. You must after all do immense work to understand what you have received, and it begins with the work you have to do wadding through the immense book you have to read to receive and understand it. And then upon receipt of it you have to work a lot. Loving your neighbours is a lot of work, and loving your enemies is even more work! If there is no work in your salvation, then consider yourself unsaved! |
Re: The Preaching Of Work Based Salvation by shadeyinka(m): 10:04pm On Jan 30, 2020 |
budaatum:That repentant Thief on the cross did no iota of works because his salvation isn't work dependent. Luk 23:43: "And Jesus said to him, Truly I say to you, Today you shall be with Me in Paradise." However, works is also important because 1. We are rewarded based on it Mat 16:27: "For the Son of man shall come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and then He shall reward each one according to his works." 2. The fruit validate our salvation. A Christian who bears no godly fruit may not really be of Christ. Mat 7:20: "Therefore by their fruits you shall know them." The work for our salvation was done by Christ Himself Eph 2:8-10: "For by grace you are saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, [it is] the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. For we are [His] workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to good works, which God has before ordained that we should walk in them." |
Re: The Preaching Of Work Based Salvation by budaatum: 10:30pm On Jan 30, 2020 |
shadeyinka:Salvation is the reward of God, as you quoted from Mat 16:27. It is a reward for work that tou do accepting Christ into your life. Eph 2:8-10 is simply so you don't go about boasting that you are righteous. For while one might think one has been doing Christ will, one might have just been going "Lord Lord", an error explained in the [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+18%3A9-14&version=NIV]Parable of the Pharisee and the Publican[/url], and that of the [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+10%3A25-37&version=NIV]Levite and the Priest[/url]. Yes the Repentant Thief did do work! You just don't value the work that he did. First, he recognised God due to work he had done to not be as ignorant as the other thief. Then he took responsibility for his sin, which is work. And he repented and asked for forgiveness, which is all works that the other thief did not do. If he had done none of these very important works he would not have been rewarded just as the other thief who did no work was not rewarded!
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