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Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Inception(m): 11:26am On Jan 23, 2020
Kashif:


Phew!!! Its been a long while....

Could be anything from VB to solenoid to strainer to ECU. It needs a detailed check.

I'm taking a walk from trannies though..... undecided

NB: Inception, you seem to have something with trannies... cheesy


My brother!

as if them take am do me! I am yet to recover from the KIA optima saga, then this one grin grin grin angry angry angry embarassed embarassed embarassed


Who knows, may be it is my calling grin cool
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Inception(m): 11:29am On Jan 23, 2020
Fentanyl:


inception has a thing for trannies?

interesting tidbit

how did you come by that information?


grin grin grin grin


BAD boy you! grin grin grin

If you know, you know grin grin grin cool
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Kashif(m): 1:26pm On Jan 23, 2020
Inception:



My brother!

as if them take am do me! I am yet to recover from the KIA optima saga, then this one grin grin grin angry angry angry embarassed embarassed embarassed


Who knows, may be it is my calling grin cool

I pleasantly hope so!
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Inception(m): 3:46pm On Jan 23, 2020
radautoworks:


This is blowing my mind. Of all people, you? At this point I think it's a public service to let people know who cleared the car for purchase.

lol.


That is the beauty of life...

full of unraveling mysteries.
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Inception(m): 6:29am On Jan 30, 2020
Please I would appreciate any info on how to source a brand new valvebody for U660E transmission.

Radautoworks
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by radautoworks: 10:57am On Jan 30, 2020
Inception:
Please I would appreciate any info on how to source a brand new valvebody for U660E transmission.

Radautoworks

N247,968‬ 7-14 days delivery
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Nobody: 11:35am On Jan 30, 2020
Inception:
Please I would appreciate any info on how to source a brand new valvebody for U660E transmission.

Radautoworks
better buy new gear at once na undecided
I don't like to gamble as you see me so.
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Inception(m): 2:31pm On Jan 31, 2020
nwanneni:
better buy new gear at once na undecided
I don't like to gamble as you see me so.

With the price I am seeing up there, I think it is the smarter option

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Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Nobody: 3:20pm On Jan 31, 2020
radautoworks:


N247,968‬ 7-14 days delivery

You gotta fear this price..... Inception kpele

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Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by radautoworks: 3:27pm On Jan 31, 2020
Inception:


With the price I am seeing up there, I think it is the smarter option

Which is the bigger gamble, a new valve body or a tokunbo transmission (bearing in mind you don't know the source or if it's worse off than yours)? I recommend you search and import valve body yourself. May be cheaper.

https://www.google.com/search?q=2008+es350+valve+body&oq=2008+es350+valve+body&aqs=chrome..69i57.10359j0j4&client=ms-android-google&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Nobody: 3:29pm On Jan 31, 2020
My advice: call the seller...bear the costs of the replacement transmission together!
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by diportivo: 4:21pm On Jan 31, 2020
Smartchoiice:
My advice: call the seller...bear the costs of the replacement transmission together!


oro ti koja gbogbo iyen lowo t'awa bayii
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Nobody: 4:33pm On Jan 31, 2020
diportivo:



oro ti koja gbogbo iyen lowo t'awa bayii
How so? Kilo ti sele?
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Inception(m): 7:50pm On Jan 31, 2020
Smartchoiice:
My advice: call the seller...bear the costs of the replacement transmission together!

To be truthful sir, he has been very helpful and supportive and has emphasized with me. He has offered to fix the car at his own cost ( I will bear transport cost), which I declined because I can fix it myself( the problem is not beyond me, given my experience with my KIA Optima transmission grin ).
Truth is we are all human and never perfect. There is a lesson learnt by both parties and he still remains a friend and a brother.

I will still recommend him to whoever needs his service.

Defective parts ( e.g door handle) has been supplied to me to fix at no cost.

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Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Nobody: 7:59pm On Jan 31, 2020
Inception:


To be truthful sir, he has been very helpful and supportive and has emphasized with me. He has offered to fix the car at his own cost ( I will bear transport cost), which I declined because I can fix it myself( the problem is not beyond me, given my experience with my KIA Optima transmission grin ).
Truth is we are all human and never perfect. There is a lesson learnt by both parties and he still remains a friend and a brother.

I will still recommend him to whoever needs his service.

Defective parts ( e.g door handle) has been supplied to me to fix at no cost.
I knew he was willing and ready to fix it. I am yet to understand the purpose of this thread!!
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Inception(m): 8:00pm On Jan 31, 2020
radautoworks:


Which is the bigger gamble, a new valve body or a tokunbo transmission (bearing in mind you don't know the source or if it's worse off than yours)? I recommend you search and import valve body yourself. May be cheaper.

https://www.google.com/search?q=2008+es350+valve+body&oq=2008+es350+valve+body&aqs=chrome..69i57.10359j0j4&client=ms-android-google&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

True. And I have not ruled that out (yet).

I am still doing my diagnosis. I have performed 2 drain and refill to ensure that there are no fine metal particles in the slushbox( although, none was noticed at no he first drain and refill)

The U660E transmission has had a history of failed center bearing /snap ring setup in which the casing housing such bearing wears out and sends out very fine metal all around the gearbox. This cannot be captured by the filter and it ultimately gets into the valvebody bores, wearing them down and cause all kinds of shifting problems( flaring when cold is the most noticeable problem)

I have ordered to Toyota techstream version 14 which should help me with the soft side of the diagnosis

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Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Inception(m): 8:02pm On Jan 31, 2020
Smartchoiice:

I knew he was willing and ready to fix it. I am yet to understand the purpose of this thread!!

This thread is for educational and advisory purposes. It is not for blame games.

The ultimate goal is to get the transmission fixed. Who knows, I may be answering my calling grin
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Nobody: 9:01pm On Jan 31, 2020
Inception:


This thread is for educational and advisory purposes. It is not for blame games.

The ultimate goal is to get the transmission fixed. Who knows, I may be answering my calling grin
No I don't believe you. This looks more like an attempt to blackmail someone which turned awry.... I'll suggest you apologize to the fellow you attempted to defame. Seller has proposed to take the car for free fixing.... Even sent a driver to pick it up... Please fear God!! Radautoworks wouldn't do more than same for you. I really don't appreciate your approach

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Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Nobody: 9:07pm On Jan 31, 2020
Inception:


My brother....


All I would say is:

Forget all the hype here of 'professionals' on this forum that do PPI (all na wash). In the end, you may be in a far better position to make a more informed decision on the purchase of your vehicles. Do your research!

Please always do due diligence and be well informed of the quirks and likely problems your proposed car might have when purchasing your intended vehicle. It is your money!

Please make out time for yourself! Be there physically, whether you employ the services of a PPI specialist or not! If he/she declines, walk away! In the end that time(and money) you are trying to save , you will spend both that time and money in all mechanic workshops you can think of!

Finally, Please take your time and be patient!(this has always been my weakpoint). That good ride will surely come!

As for me, It is well. It is not everything you need to raise dust for.

This is NOT a peaceful post. You're on the verge of defamation of techs on Nairaland including my personal mechanic diportivo
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Inception(m): 9:52pm On Jan 31, 2020
Smartchoiice:


This is NOT a peaceful post. You're on the verge of defamation of techs on Nairaland including my personal mechanic diportivo

That post was all about my lessons learnt . I also do PPI in Portharcourt , so it also applies to me too. Peace.
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Inception(m): 9:54pm On Jan 31, 2020
Smartchoiice:

No I don't believe you. This looks more like an attempt to blackmail someone which turned awry.... I'll suggest you apologize to the fellow you attempted to defame. Seller has proposed to take the car for free fixing.... Even sent a driver to pick it up... Please fear God!! Radautoworks wouldn't do more than same for you. I really don't appreciate your approach

Alright. Whatever makes you feel good.
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by diportivo: 10:08pm On Jan 31, 2020
Smartchoiice:


This is NOT a peaceful post. You're on the verge of defamation of techs on Nairaland


ogbeni....

oo mo tele abi?

gbagbe matter yi

Kosoro mbe mo

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Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Inception(m): 4:54pm On Feb 01, 2020
diportivo:



ogbeni....

oo mo tele abi?

gbagbe matter yi

Kosoro mbe mo



Dude,

Don't be silly.

If you are not ready to contribute meaningfully, ignore this thread.

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Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by diportivo: 5:16pm On Feb 01, 2020
Inception:


Dude,

Don't be silly.

If you are not ready to contribute meaningfully, ignore this thread.


I didnt quote u guy

u already av all the meaningful contributions u need

me quoting and engaging someone else shouldn't bother u one bit

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Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by lateefat101: 6:15pm On Feb 02, 2020
Readonee35L:

Eleribu somebody .

You really need therapy. I never thought you'd bring this here in 2020.
Wailing Left and right.
If you still have a problem. Goto the place you were sold a vehicle , go and pour out your mind . Not car talk

How is your life owode onirin man?
How is 2020 treating your scrap selling and buying business?

Don't be frustrated and depressed; it will be ok.
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Inception(m): 8:27pm On Feb 03, 2020
Smartchoiice:

No I don't believe you. This looks more like an attempt to blackmail someone which turned awry.... I'll suggest you apologize to the fellow you attempted to defame. Seller has proposed to take the car for free fixing.... Even sent a driver to pick it up... Please fear God!! Radautoworks wouldn't do more than same for you. I really don't appreciate your approach

Believe me, if it was you that spent 3 million on a car that you expected zero problems after trusting the PPI to someone you least expect to disappoint, and it has the problems you quoted ( and more that I chose not to mention here) , you would be very puerile in your demeanour. Infact, you will bring the whole Nairaland down, following your interesting reputation.

But you see, that is where we are different. I perfectly understand the power of restraint. It is not about fear, dude. It is about Power.

Power is nothing without control.

And next time, try to get the bird eye view of a story, before you make utterances. It helps . It helps.

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Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Inception(m): 8:32pm On Feb 03, 2020
diportivo:



I didnt quote u guy

u already av all the meaningful contributions u need

me quoting and engaging someone else shouldn't bother u one bit

OK. I see. You play the part of amusing everybody.

Thanks for your service.

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Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Nobody: 10:32pm On Feb 03, 2020
Inception:


Believe me, if it was you that spent 3 million on a car that you expected zero problems after trusting the PPI to someone you least expect to disappoint, and it has the problems you quoted ( and more that I chose not to mention here) , you would be very puerile in your demeanour. Infact, you will bring the whole Nairaland down, following your interesting reputation.

But you see, that is where we are different. I perfectly understand the power of restraint. It is not about fear, dude. It is about Power.

Power is nothing without control.

And next time, try to get the bird eye view of a story, before you make utterances. It helps . It helps.

Why are you quoting me twice? I am a very busy person... please don't quote me on old posts!! Thank you
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by chukel(m): 4:33am On Feb 04, 2020
Inception:
Please I would appreciate any info on how to source a brand new valvebody for U660E transmission.

Radautoworks
please don't go this route. I know how it eventually ends. New tranny. Btw, what transmission codes are you pulling?
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by chukel(m): 4:41am On Feb 04, 2020
Inception:


True. And I have not ruled that out (yet).

I am still doing my diagnosis. I have performed 2 drain and refill to ensure that there are no fine metal particles in the slushbox( although, none was noticed at no he first drain and refill)

The U660E transmission has had a history of failed center bearing /snap ring setup in which the casing housing such bearing wears out and sends out very fine metal all around the gearbox. This cannot be captured by the filter and it ultimately gets into the valvebody bores, wearing them down and cause all kinds of shifting problems( flaring when cold is the most noticeable problem)

I have ordered to Toyota techstream version 14 which should help me with the soft side of the diagnosis
would have sent you mine
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Inception(m): 6:08am On Feb 04, 2020
chukel:
please don't go this route. I know how it eventually ends. New tranny. Btw, what transmission codes are you pulling?

None sir.
No codes at all.
I have drained and refilled twice with WS . same issue( 2-3 shift flare, 4-5 shift flare for the first 10-15 minutes of driving). After it has warmed up, flare goes away. But then I experience harsh engagement into reverse from neutral to reverse, and P to R. Harsh downshifts ( particularly 5-4), 3-2, 2-1.

Note that when fluid was replaced the first time, fluid was dark( but not burnt), but did not notice any shiny metallic particles in the pan ( except the magnet particles of course). Filter was changed.

I understand the valvebody operation is PWM( pulse width modulated) which over time causes valvebody wear in the main pressure valve bore.

Now, the dilemma : Replace valvebody with a brand new unit, or replace Tranny?

Cc. Kashif
Re: Harsh 1-2 Shift, 2-3 And 4-5 Shift Flares On 2008 Lexus ES350 When Cold by Inception(m): 6:09am On Feb 04, 2020
Smartchoiice:


Why are you quoting me twice? I am a very busy person... please don't quote me on old posts!! Thank you

You have seen my message. Good. Now try your best to ignore this thread.

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