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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:03pm On Feb 04, 2020
Ghana was not cushioned by anyone but herself when she realised that the only way to really solved her growth problems was through the political process.
And since then, she has been a success story. grin grin grin grin
This success story is what Kenya has been attracted to.

After education, let me see what else you will want to come and learn....

Oh yes, How to carry out effective Judicial reforms to stem corruption from your Judiciary. grin grin grin grin
TayserMahri:


You can only rely on media rumor mongering. The truth is, Kenya's debt is not comparable to the economic tailspin that Ghana has been experiencing since the 70 s. Ghana has essentially been in one loooooooooooooooooooong recession, only cushioned by IMF grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx1: 1:08pm On Feb 04, 2020
Just30:
Ghana was not cushioned by anyone but herself when she realised that the only way to really solved her growth problems was through the political process.
And since then, she has been a success story. grin grin grin grin
This success story is what Kenya has been attracted to.

After education, let me see what else you will want to come and learn....

Oh yes, How to carry out effective Judicial reforms to stem corruption from your Judiciary. grin grin grin grin
their judiciary system is financially handicapped. even if they learn, they will not be able to execute the knolwedge.


I am of the opinion , kenya Goverment decided to starve the institution of funds to promote its known corruption.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:09pm On Feb 04, 2020
vaxx1:
No you just pen down an hogwash write up out of emotions . IMF is a credit union , you have to meet some special criteria before you are credited . financial aid from Bretton wood is not for every dick and Harry like China does . it is strictly for those who have the capacity to repay . your economy must give a sense of recovery before you can be consider...

IMF once loan you when your economy was in average but at the moment , it is so worse, you have to call on China.

No son. As always you cant grasp the most basic econ 101. The term bailout itself comes from maritime history of rescuing a sinking ship. So when Ghana gets IMF bailout it basically gets rescued from sinking as a country. That is different from getting a loan, such as Kenya getting a loan from China to finance infrastructure projects. With Ghana, if the IMF bailout does not come, the economy enters a fresh tailspin, the currency collapses, the president is overthrown, the country goes to the dogs, etc. Dont get confused by these terms.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:10pm On Feb 04, 2020
TayserMahri:


You need econ classes. Both are liabilities. USA needs debt money so it sells bonds. They still owe China the money plus interest. Same to Kenya. The difference is how you approach the lender.
No one is saying US does not need debt

How does US create debt ?
It just signs MOUs and the US treasury print more money.
Oil trade keeps the value steady. grin grin grin grin

Among all the fiat currencies, US dollar is the most trusted because of it steady nature hence why countries store their wealth by ourchasing US securities.

Go and learn how forex works, and how the US create debt.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:12pm On Feb 04, 2020
TayserMahri:


You need econ classes. Both are liabilities. USA needs debt money so it sells bonds. They still owe China the money plus interest. Same to Kenya. The difference is how you approach the lender.
stop putting yourself on the US level
you aint there. grin grin grin grin

Your country is not productive enough to repay it debt.
The US can pay its debt if it chooses to.

Their only problem will be not being able to live large like they used to and an end to the US dollar reserve
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:14pm On Feb 04, 2020
TayserMahri:


Who told them to be disqualified? We would still have beaten them like we beat Ghana. grin grin
im laughing

you couldnt even beat Ghana let alone a Sierra Leonean team at its peak. grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:15pm On Feb 04, 2020
Just30:
grin grin grin grin

IMF give monies to countries that ask for it and meet the terms of the kind of money they want.

They didnt give SA the money they requested for because of a solely different reason.
which stern from SA and US trade problems.

SA didnt request bailout and would not be given the loan anyway because they havent reached the critical point to warrant bailing out. The ship has to be sinking for talks to even start with IMF.

Ghana is always readily sinking, so IMF usually doesnt even need to ask. They know when Ghana screams the ship is already halfway down grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:16pm On Feb 04, 2020
TayserMahri:


Prove that the ref numbers of Min of Education letterhead of KE is not available grin
its not me claiming fake

left to you to prove its fake.
By showing your cabinet secretary statement grin grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:17pm On Feb 04, 2020
TayserMahri:


How is IMF any institution grin Real players would be dallying with all institutions not one abusive inst (IMF) like Ghana grin

grin grin grin grin

so your egos get bruised when IMF tells you the truth about your economy ?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:19pm On Feb 04, 2020
vaxx1:
their judiciary system is financially handicapped. even if they learn, they will not be able to execute the knolwedge.


I am of the opinion , kenya Goverment decided to starve the institution of funds to promote its known corruption.

grin grin grin

Their country does not have money hence why the judiciary cant even be financed. grin grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:20pm On Feb 04, 2020
TayserMahri:


No son. As always you cant grasp the most basic econ 101. The term bailout itself comes from maritime history of rescuing a sinking ship. So when Ghana gets IMF bailout it basically gets rescued from sinking as a country. That is different from getting a loan, such as Kenya getting a loan from China to finance infrastructure projects. With Ghana, if the IMF bailout does not come, the economy enters a fresh tailspin, the currency collapses, the president is overthrown, the country goes to the dogs, etc. Dont get confused by these terms.
Economies that goes to IMF shouldn't consistently produce better results than you

do you agree? grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:24pm On Feb 04, 2020
vaxx1:
only those who are beaten to stupor with fact and evidence called it rummor . as for you unknown idiot of Kenyan, your goverment is in debt crisis , company are laying off workers, infrastructures is dwindling, contractors are being owned. malls are leasing their space out below the market price . All this are all evidence of a mismanaged economy which is about to crunch .

finally and bitterly , nature too is unfriendly with you, locusts has taking over your farm land , drought is killing your brethren and sisteren up the north of your kingdom . your country is systematically falling into pieces day by day .

Terrible. You didnt have to stoop lower. None of what you wrote dispute the fact that Ghana is a hopeless IMF child. Why do you need another rescue package for the 18th time? Thats a record. Forget the locusts, they were in Russia, Italy and much of Europe last year. They are just trying to survive. Our economy projected to grow by 5.9 % this year, without IMF rescue packages grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx1: 1:24pm On Feb 04, 2020
TayserMahri:


No son. As always you cant grasp the most basic econ 101. The term bailout itself comes from maritime history of rescuing a sinking ship. So when Ghana gets IMF bailout it basically gets rescued from sinking as a country. That is different from getting a loan, such as Kenya getting a loan from China to finance infrastructure projects. With Ghana, if the IMF bailout does not come, the economy enters a fresh tailspin, the currency collapses, the president is overthrown, the country goes to the dogs, etc. Dont get confused by these terms.
Again , terms of language might have origin , but surely there is evolution of words , As of today idiot, Bail out partaning to Bretton wood institution means giving credit and at the same time providing technical assistance in the economy management thru advice and opinion . As a credit facilitator, there is usually a criteria request which is open to every member unlike that of China which is hidden to you guys .

China debt has always being a safe heaven for you idiot . i wonder what we be your faith if there was no extra shilling coming from China.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:24pm On Feb 04, 2020
Just30:
no need

I dont need a thread to start repeating the same things already said here.

We dont need to convince anyone because everyone already knows it.

Nobody knows it grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:25pm On Feb 04, 2020
TayserMahri:


SA didnt request bailout and was not given the loan anyway because they havent reached the critical point to warrant bailing out. The ship has to be sinking for talks to even start with IMF.

Ghana is always readily sinking, so IMF usually doesnt even need to ask. They know when Ghana screams the ship is already halfway down grin grin


grin grin grin grin

IMF does not come in without a request


grin grin grin grin

The last time Ghana economy was in a terrible state to warrant an IMF bailout and all aid agencies assistance was in the 70s to 80s.

And with all of those years of an idle state in GH economy, Kenya with twice the population couldnt even try to be better off than Ghana.
WHat makes you think your country will catch up now ?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AmenhotepZuid: 1:26pm On Feb 04, 2020
grin grin grin SA BORN ELON MUSK IS RICHER THAN dangote.FACT. grin grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:26pm On Feb 04, 2020
vaxx1:
There is No need of creation. your goverment constantly validate it.


they were recently pleading and begging for technical assistance in a crucial sector like education..... what do you still want to create again? go and do that on kenya unknown forum...

You are afraid of a mere thread. Weak chinned grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:28pm On Feb 04, 2020
Just30:
Yes Ghana has perfected the Game and it didnt happen just today
Its been so for more than 50 years.

How does that become a comparison ?

How have you perfected the game when Kenya beat you like a congolese drum grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:30pm On Feb 04, 2020
TayserMahri:


Terrible. You didnt have to stoop lower. None of what you wrote dispute the fact that Ghana is a hopeless IMF child. Why do you need another rescue package for the 18th time? Thats a record. Forget the locusts, they were in Russia, Italy and much of Europe last year. They are just trying to survive. Our economy projected to grow by 5.9 % this year, without IMF rescue packages grin
Europe, Russia have the finances to save their agriculture sector.

Ghana had armyworms last year or so but because we had money to mitigate the effects, we still made bumper harvest in grains.
As long as we are members of the IMF, we will make use of the monies that are available to our advantage than to borrow from elsewhere at expensive rates to solve bureaucratic matters.

grin grin grin grin

It seems IMF is great after all grin grin grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AmenhotepZuid: 1:30pm On Feb 04, 2020
SMALL BOY dangote IS GOING DOWN. grin grin grin SA BASED BILLIONAIRES ARE GOING TO TOP AFRICA. grin grin grin grin

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AmenhotepZuid: 1:33pm On Feb 04, 2020
gdp isn't MONEY in the BANK JUNGLE IDIOTS. grin grin grin

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:33pm On Feb 04, 2020
TayserMahri:


Nobody knows it grin
The rest of Africa and the World does

grin grin grin grin grin

That is why we have more FDIs
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:34pm On Feb 04, 2020
Just30:
Ghana was not cushioned by anyone but herself when she realised that the only way to really solved her growth problems was through the political process.
And since then, she has been a success story. grin grin grin grin
This success story is what Kenya has been attracted to.

After education, let me see what else you will want to come and learn....

Oh yes, How to carry out effective Judicial reforms to stem corruption from your Judiciary. grin grin grin grin

You have been cushioned by IMF from the vagaries of the world economy. Trust me, you would be a basket case by now without IMF holding your hand all along. By the late 80s you would have collapsed like Somalia. I've read your rollercoaster story grin
We hate those govt officials who come to Gh to eat our per diem money. The next law we will enact will ban all benchmarking tours, which is a major problem. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:35pm On Feb 04, 2020
TayserMahri:


You are afraid of a mere thread. Weak chinned grin
naa we dont waste our time with countries below Us
cus they are bottom feeders grin grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AmenhotepZuid: 1:36pm On Feb 04, 2020
grin grin grin this is MONEY in the HANtDS OF WEALTHY SOUTH AFRICANS BANKS ACCOUNTS not GDP. shocked shocked shocked

SA'S MARKET CAPITALIZATION IS 3 TIMES BIGGER THAN OUR GDP. Example the JSE isn't counted when counting the countries GDP.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:38pm On Feb 04, 2020
Just30:
No one is saying US does not need debt

How does US create debt ?
It just signs MOUs and the US treasury print more money.
Oil trade keeps the value steady. grin grin grin grin

Among all the fiat currencies, US dollar is the most trusted because of it steady nature hence why countries store their wealth by ourchasing US securities.

Go and learn how forex works, and how the US create debt.


How is this rubbish related? The issue was whether US owes China any debt. You have just accepted it in your first statement then you went on with your unsolicited hobby horses. You only needed to affirm that USA needs and indeed owes China debt, same to Kenya grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:38pm On Feb 04, 2020
TayserMahri:


You have been cushioned by IMF from the vagaries of the world economy. Trust me, you would be a basket case by now without IMF holding your hand all along. By the late 80s you would have collapsed like Somalia. I've read your rollercoaster story grin
We hate those govt officials who come to Gh to eat our per diem money. The next law we will enact will ban all benchmarking tours, which is a major problem. grin
grin grin grin grin grin

so all economies that borrow will be a basket case without borrowing?

grin grin grin grin

Since you have read
You can go ahead and read that of Germany.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AmenhotepZuid: 1:38pm On Feb 04, 2020
Again talking of GDP doesn't count this FACT SA HAS THE RICHEST BANKS IN AFRICA. MONEY IN.... not imaginery CASH. shocked

LASTLY AFRICAN BLACKS BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES. Black billionaires make up 0.000000001% of world billionaires.FACT. cry cry cry cry

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx1: 1:41pm On Feb 04, 2020
TayserMahri:


Terrible. You didnt have to stoop lower. None of what you wrote dispute the fact that Ghana is a hopeless IMF child. Why do you need another rescue package for the 18th time? Thats a record. Forget the locusts, they were in Russia, Italy and much of Europe last year. They are just trying to survive. Our economy projected to grow by 5.9 % this year, without IMF rescue packages grin
Dumb idiot kid , Ghana is on sound management, no IMF request yet but we will not stop demanding for it until we are better and become a full developed nation . that is our goal . now , Ghana economy will be having the highest growth in west africa this year and second in the entire africa as well. so comparing your backwater growrh to Ghana is crazy....


there is sound economic management here.


what does moody says about kenya ?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx1: 1:42pm On Feb 04, 2020
TayserMahri:


You are afraid of a mere thread. Weak chinned grin
Go and do that zombie

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:44pm On Feb 04, 2020
TayserMahri:


How is this rubbish related? The issue was whether US owes China any debt. You have just accepted it in your first statement then you went on with your unsolicited hobby horses. You only needed to affirm that USA needs and indeed owes China debt, same to Kenya grin grin
China can take it money anytime it want

Because it is not a debt owed by the US government
It is an investment China made in US treasury, just like when China invest in US stocks.

They can liquidate anytime they want. grin grin grin grin

Dont ask me how it is related when i have told you to stop bring the US up since you know nothing. grin grin grin

you keep comparing yourself to US and it sounds funny grin grin grin
The US does not owe anyone debt because it hasn't borrowed from any country.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AmenhotepZuid: 1:45pm On Feb 04, 2020
IN MILITARY /WARFARE SOUTH AFRICA, EGYPT AND ALGERIA TOP AFRICA.

THE SOUTH AFRICAN AIRFORCE IS THE OLDEST AFRICA AND SECOND OLDEST IN THE WORLD AND THE MOST ADVANCED AIRFORCE IN AFRICA. FACT.
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