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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 8:55am On Feb 05, 2020 |
TayserMahri:What you are trying to do is showing us you know the issues of union more than us who are living on it.You can't know zanzibaris more than us.And may be you doesn't know the union is 56 years old! There are more folks who were born under the union than those who were born pre_union.So,its common to get an ordinary guy who won't even know how the first president of Zanzibar corted Nyerere to form a union gov! Actually, it was Zanzibar which needed it more.Its strange to hear a guy like you who claimed zanzibaris were forced! Its a lie. It was Zanzibar which needed the union mainly for security matters.Even the articles of the union were clearly on that. Then you are wrong on claiming mainlanders shouldn't have a say on it.Mind u,there are close to a million islanders in the mainland,they are business people,workers,and some are farmers. mainlanders can decide if they still want to share their resources with islanders.The only thing which makes mainlanders quite is they don't notice a huge numbers of islanders in the mainland.The mainland has over 55 million people,Zanzibar has about 1.5 millions,Zanzibar is so small with little resources.Mainlanders spent most of time discussing about other pressing issues like mining contracts,a huge gas find and religious stuff. Issues of uamsho isn't easy.We are waiting for some more evidence from foreign nation about terrorism involvement on those guys arrested.Its the court issue.We can't just guess on complicated stuff which need the courts to decide |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 9:28am On Feb 05, 2020 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 9:32am On Feb 05, 2020 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by leo552: 9:37am On Feb 05, 2020 |
Kazikazi:Nice query KaziKazi |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx1: 9:40am On Feb 05, 2020 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by leo552: 9:45am On Feb 05, 2020 |
Just30:for your info,he's a consulting surgeon.He knows you wont be able to fathom,right. Google his name,his CV is available online. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by leo552: 9:48am On Feb 05, 2020 |
vaxx1:Fake news |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by leo552: 9:59am On Feb 05, 2020 |
68816419:You are more than a slowpoke, a skunk to be precise,aren't they Kenyans? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by leo552: 10:01am On Feb 05, 2020 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:32am On Feb 05, 2020 |
TayserMahri:Somebody wont like this, 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 10:43am On Feb 05, 2020 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 10:44am On Feb 05, 2020 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 10:46am On Feb 05, 2020 |
who's cv again? so his cv makes him write better than his current class 2 write up? leo552: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 11:57am On Feb 05, 2020 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mzal3ndo(m): 11:57am On Feb 05, 2020 |
The refferendum was done during the Kikwete era of Tanzanian politics where the political air was more thinner, but that is what the people want and that is the relationship between Tanzania mainland and Zanzibar have. Just because YOU would not like such a union that does not mean that the Zanzibaris would hate it. Even if you go to Zanzibar now (I doubt you will) and ask them they will tell you that the Union has done more good than harm to better the situation in Zanzibar. Even on an official visit to the Island, current President Magufuli was warmly welcomed by the people of Zanzibar by calling him "BABA LAO" which can be loosely translated to CHAMPION or THE BEST TayserMahri: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 12:00pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
Tanzania's pics 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 12:20pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
Danielnino00:Simple question.. Which would you rather win The u17 world Cup or the Actual world cup |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 12:25pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
samorobo:You do know English isn't my first language right? Also Mozambique, Angola, Cameroon all of these countries speak Portuguese and French.... Thus a white race language, so I'm guessing that makes them unafrican by your definition. Lastly I said English is the global lingua franca... Not the lingua franca of China and Japan...learn to read. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:04pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
Kazikazi: Im not trying to show you I know your sh1t more than you do, am just telling you obvious things. From what you're writing I can tell you dont even know your history. The dethroned Arabs, the original rulers, the people who wield the real power in Zanzibar have never accepted the union. It was forced upon them by Sheikh Abeid Karume and his negroes after the revolt. He was trying to ensure the Arabs never gain power again over the negroes by using black solidarity from the mainland. That doesnt mean the Arabs from Zanzibar have accepted the union. Never! To this day even their descendants dont buy it. The union itself is not even legal because it was signed by one man who made his decision without consulting his constituents. The then attorney general of Zanzibar at the time the union was signed said there was no law ratifying it nor was such a law published in Zanzibar’s Government Gazette. Many issues • The government of Tanzania Mainland assumes the role of the Union government, thus benefiting Tanzania Mainland more than Zanzibar. • The Union matters keep adding up, thus affecting Zanzibar’s autonomy and eroding its identity. • The country seems to maintain two parallel economies rather than a single one into which Zanzibar is fully incorporated, and on which it is consulted by the Union government. • Zanzibar has attained and assumed full autonomy with its own flag, national anthem, and a government with its own constitution, making it a more or less sovereign state in international law. • Zanzibar has abrogated the terms of the Union so that, if laws of the Union are to be used in Zanzibar, they must be brought before the Zanzibar House of Representatives, making the constitution of Zanzibar superior to the Union Constitution. • Further contradiction exists between the Union constitution (of 1977), which states in Article 1 that Tanzania is one state and a sovereign United Republic, and the constitution of Zanzibar (of 1984), which states in Article 2 that Zanzibar is one of two states forming the United Republic of Tanzania. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 1:11pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
Goel: Lets agree to disagree! 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:22pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
Mzal3ndo: Big lie ! During Kikwete era the political space was very wide compared to the claustrophobic space it has become under the present sultan. There were a million lies you could have sold but you chose the weakest. Refer to my response to your bro above. The union was formed on deceit, it was an annexation. Just because YOU would not like such a union that does not mean that the Zanzibaris would hate it. Who told you I dont like it? Even if you go to Zanzibar now (I doubt you will) and ask them they will tell you that the Union has done more good than harm to better the situation in Zanzibar. The negroes who own virtually nothing there used to see the mainland as their shelter from Arab oppression. This has changed significantly over the years after the situation unfolded against their favor. The realization over the years is that they simply replaced one master with another. Even on an official visit to the Island, current President Magufuli was warmly welcomed by the people of Zanzibar by calling him "BABA LAO" which can be loosely translated to CHAMPION or THE BEST Moot point. No bearing at all to the union argument. CCM has fans on the island, why would they not cheer their leader? 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 1:25pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
jl115: Stats! Link now- not even on per capita! Where do you get this ishyt !? 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx1: 1:33pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
jl115:You come here only to type ignorantly... two of those country you type in there has Portuguese as their Lingua franca. even Cameroon has an English speaking side, not entirely a French speaking nation . 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 2:12pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
vaxx1: I am sure you understood his point Vaxx. English is not a white language anymore. This was more for samsorobo. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:51pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
Mombasa..
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 3:05pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
TayserMahri: Unlike soccer where you need a few fellas and a ball and a whistle. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 3:27pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
kikuyu1:read the entire convo then come back |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 3:28pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
vaxx1:my bad!! Meant to say Portuguese and French ..... Still a white race language! Thus my argument stands |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 4:43pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
Kazikazi:I love TZ madly, Here is Lagos from the sky? 3 Likes
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 4:56pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
68816419:This is what the little Indians and the black South Africans hate to hear @bolded. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 6:31pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
Shma: Don't read too much into such lists. The Kenyattas are worth MINIMUM twice that! The value of Northlands alone is worth that figure. Its a mini city along Thika rd at Peponi at least a 1000ac- you know the price of an acre. I know a 70 smth yr old Kyuke,Kihingu one of the first loggers in the DRC early 90s who went into tobacco and gems with a town named after himself sitting on a minimum 2 bn USD. Interpol were after him 2011 for tax evasion and confiscate his jets on RSA but IIRC it got sorted. I know Jimi Wanjigi hides behind several fronts and nominees and has massive mineral interests: so massive he abused his henchman who was shaking down a port smuggling operation for a miserly 100k USD daily in 2017. A guy I personally know but not well 40 smth I'm damn sure has enough real estate and hotel holdings in EA to be worth a billion USD. He really likes his privacy , though. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 9:42pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
rvp20182: Another ignorant mofo... Obasanjo ruled Nigeria for 3 years as military head of state and 8 years as democratically elected president (2 terms,4 year per term) ..Buhari spent less than 2 years as military head of state and is in his second term as democratically elected president.. that's 18 years altogether for both of them..still less than the 24 years Moi used to f**k Kenya.. And Cameroon are just our neighbour.. they aren't west African... East and southern Africa still has the biggest chunk of sit tight leaders in Africa... 2 Likes |
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