Melvyn11:

You see the kind of effect Ronaldo has had on Real Madrid over the last 8 years that would have been United. More league titles and Champions league trophies. He would have achieved the same if not more individual and collective titles with the way the English press will hype up the rivalry with Messi. United would have built a start studded team if Ronaldo didn't leave.

All these you typed are if but realistically it would’ve not happened that way, remember Man U lost ucl final against Barcelona twice, one when cr7 was still there. Also remember he only had one superb season for Man U, his stats reduced in his last season with you guys.

eph12:

How many will he score?

Can’t really say but one thing is sure he will be inconsistent with his stats in epl unlike in his la Liga days.

hensben:
All these you typed are if but realistically it would’ve not happened that way, remember Man U lost ucl final against Barcelona twice, one when cr7 was still there. Also remember he only had one superb season for Man U, his stats reduced in his last season with you guys.

What is not realistic in One of the best club in the world winning more titles and building a better team with the best player in the world? All you have to do is look at his impact at Madrid and draw a conclusion.

Melvyn11:

You see the kind of effect Ronaldo has had on Real Madrid over the last 8 years that would have been United. More league titles and Champions league trophies. He would have achieved the same if not more individual and collective titles with the way the English press will hype up the rivalry with Messi. United would have built a start studded team if Ronaldo didn't leave.

When you say it is cr7 we are talking about here, remember it is Epl we are discussing here too.

Melvyn11:

What is not realistic in One of the best club in the world winning more titles and building a better team with the best player in the world? All you have to do is look at his impact at Madrid and draw a conclusion.

That is because Madrid are always willing to break the bank for quality players but same is not with Man U. Man U that refused to sign Modric and Bale to replace aging Scholes and Giggs respectively, instead they settled for Cleverly, Ashley young and Januzag. It’s not about tittles and all that but the two club’s policies are different. Football is business/profit first for club owner, to fans it is entertainment/winning consistently.

hensben:
When you say it is cr7 we are talking about here, remember it is Epl we are discussing here too.

If you check Ronaldo champions league goals and records you won't be making noise about the difficulty of Epl.

Melvyn11:

If you check Ronaldo champions league goals and records you won't be making noise about the difficulty of Epl.

To get those goals consistently you need quality players around you, remember football is a team sport and not roger Federer vs Rafael nadal.

I’m not denying cr7’s greatness but as a superb player you need a good supporting cast to achieve more because football is a team sport as I mentioned in the first paragraph.

hensben:
That is because Madrid are always willing to break the bank for quality players but same is not with Man U. Man U that refused to sign Modric and Bale to replace aging Scholes and Giggs respectively, instead they settled for Cleverly, Ashley young and Januzag. It’s not about tittles and all that but the two club’s policies are different.

You are just going back and front. How much did United spend before they went to 3 champions league final in 4 yrs.? it's not only by spending money that you can build a strong squad capable of delivering trophies. You are confusing this United with the one Ronaldo was in. If Ronaldo had stayed United will attract more players and build a team to satisfy Ronaldo if they want to keep him at the club. It's that easy

hensben:
To get those goals consistently you need quality players around you, remember football is a team sport and not roger Federer vs Rafael nadal. I’m not denying cr7’s greatness but as a superb player you need a good supporting cast to achieve more because football is a team sport as I mentioned above.

Yes and the United Management will definitely put more effort in bringing in more world class players when you have Ronaldo has your main man or he might leave.

Melvyn11:

You are just going back and front. How much did United spend before they went to 3 champions league final in 4 yrs.? it's not only by spending money that you can build a strong squad capable of delivering trophies. You are confusing this United with the one Ronaldo was in. If Ronaldo had stayed United will attract more players and build a team to satisfy Ronaldo if they want to keep him at the club. It's that easy

Like I said earlier, all these you are saying are mere IF, but realistically it’s not so. Remember football is business/profit first for club owner. Okay where will Man U get another Scholes and Giggs if they refused to spend on quality players to make cr7 stay? Tell me.

Melvyn11:

Yes and the United Management will definitely put more effort in bringing in more world class players when you have Ronaldo has your main man or he might leave.

But you said you must not spend to achieve more. Okay but the thing is united management don’t think this way, they will rather let cr7 go than spending lavishly on quality players like Madrid over the years. If only you know how many players Madrid brought in before mou made them formidable again. Man U board doesn’t spend that way sorry.

hensben:
Like I said earlier, all these you are saying are mere IF, but realistically it’s not so. Remember football is business/profit first for club owner. Okay where will Man U get another Scholes and Giggs if they refused to spend on quality players to make cr7 stay? Tell me.

It doesn't take a soothsayer to know if you have the best player in the world the more your chances of winning trophies and the more profit the club makes. All you have to do is look at the impact Ronaldo had at Madrid to draw your conclusion. If you are saying Ronaldo won't maintain his goalscoring ability in England like he did in Spain then all you have to do is look up his champions league records.

What make you think Madrid are called the galaticos, you think they depend on their academy for world class players. They buy world class players most times and not make. So you think Man U will make another Giggs and Scholes within a short time or Fergie will still be Man U coach till date?? Think all these things through, not IF IF. I’m the type that is very realistic with life.

hensben:
But you said you must not spend to achieve more. Okay but the thing is united management don’t think this way, they will rather let cr7 go than spending lavishly on quality players like Madrid over the years. If only you know how many players Madrid brought in before mou made them formidable again. Man U board doesn’t spend that way sorry.

Just because Man u board don't spend like Madrid which is even debatable doesn't mean they won't be able to create a side that Ronaldo would thrive it. Ronaldo Portugal goal scoring record is another prove of that. The constant is Ronaldo being a goal scoring machine at any were he has played be it Spain, England or the champions league. Take Ronaldo to Norwich and no doubt he would still score 50goals.

Melvyn11:

It doesn't take a soothsayer to know if you have the best player in the world the more your chances of winning trophies and the more profit the club makes. All you have to do is look at the impact Ronaldo had at Madrid to draw your conclusion. If you are saying Ronaldo won't maintain his goalscoring ability in England like he did in Spain then all you have to do is look up his champions league records.

True it doesn’t take a soothsayer to know that Man U is not Real Madrid, vice versa. Epl is not La Liga too. Did cr7 play for Man U when it is UCL match after moving to Madrid?? Was it not same Real Madrid players he played with in ucl.

Melvyn11:

Just because Man u board don't spend like Madrid which is even debatable doesn't mean they won't be able to create a side that Ronaldo would thrive it. Ronaldo Portugal goal scoring record is another prove of that. The constant is Ronaldo being a goal scoring machine at any were he has played be it Spain, England or the champions league. Take Ronaldo to Norwich and no doubt he would still score 50goals.

@theemboldened, you are kidding right. Lol.

hensben:
True it doesn’t take a soothsayer to know that Man U is not Real Madrid, vice versa. Epl is not La Liga too. Did cr7 play for Man U when it is UCL match after moving to Madrid??

You have derailed the discussion. If Ronaldo had stayed in England his goalscoring records will still very much be the same especially if he had changed his style earlier on in his career to the goal machine he is now. You have watched Ronaldo all this years and you think when Messi is scoring 50goals in la liga you think Ronaldo will be ok with his 30 fuckkk no my friend.

Melvyn11:

Just because Man u board don't spend like Madrid which is even debatable doesn't mean they won't be able to create a side that Ronaldo would thrive it. Ronaldo Portugal goal scoring record is another prove of that. The constant is Ronaldo being a goal scoring machine at any were he has played be it Spain, England or the champions league. Take Ronaldo to Norwich and no doubt he would still score 50goals.

Of course Man U do spend but they are not really good in spending on the right players, maybe because they have enjoyed academy players who turnout quality from late 90s so they think something of such can still be attain again with the likes of Rashford, Lingard, cleverly, Welbeck.....But the thing is Epl is now more competitive having teams with more money to spend to bring players.

Melvyn11:

You have derailed the discussion. If Ronaldo had stayed in England his goalscoring records will still very much be the same especially if he had changed his style earlier on in his career to the goal machine he is now. You have watched Ronaldo all this years and you think when Messi is scoring 50goals in la liga you think Ronaldo will be ok with his 30 fuckkk no my friend.

That’s not how to see things my friend. Mou changed cr7’s mentality from dribbling and scoring to direct play to goal, he made him his focal man in his counter attacking tactics, cr7 adapted to that because he is really that good. What if he remain in Man U you think Fergie will do that so that cr7 can compete with Messi in goal scoring?? Cr7 would not have seen it that way since they are in different league. E be like say you nor know Fergie and his strictness on players, person wey stone Beckham boot for training ground na go get time to change tactics because of one player.??

hensben:
Of course Man U do spend but they are not really good in spending on the right players, maybe because they have enjoyed academy players who turnout quality from late 90s so they think something of such can still be attain again with the likes of Rashford, Lingard, cleverly, Welbeck.....But the thing is Epl is now more competitive having teams with more money to spend to bring players.

The champions league is filled with the best teams in the world yet Ronaldo is still dropping goals constantly. None of that epl bullshit will fly my guy.

hensben:
That’s not how to see things my friend. Mou changed cr7’s mentality from dribbling and scoring to direct play to goal, he made him his focal man in his counter attacking tactics, cr7 adapted to that because he is really that good. What if he remain in Man U you think Fergie will do that so that cr7 can compete with Messi in goal scoring?? Cr7 would not have seen it that way since they are in different league. E be like say you nor know Fergie and his strictness on players, person wey stone Beckham boot for training ground na go get time to change tactics because of one player.??

Very wrong my friend. During the latter part of his time with United, Ronaldo started in a centre-forward position more often under Ferguson for a short time. Even Mourinho used him as a winger untill Ancelotti brought the idea of using him as a striker which Ronaldo even said he was not comfortable with at first but then got used to it. Ronaldo scored 102 times during Ancelotti two years at Madrid including 61goals in one season.

Godx:

Do United fans even consider Ronaldo a club legend? He gave his prime years to Madrid.

Lol even Sporting Lisbon will claim Ronaldo as a club legend talkless of United

Melvyn11:

Very wrong my friend. During the latter part of his time with United, Ronaldo started in a centre-forward position more often under Ferguson for a short time. Even Mourinho used him as a winger untill Ancelotti brought the idea of using him as a striker which Ronaldo even said he was not comfortable with at first but then got used to it. Ronaldo scored 102 times during Ancelotti two years at Madrid including 61goals in one season.

Will he get the 50 goals from ucl alone if he was still in Man U? Ucl games is just 13, that is if the team make finals.

hensben:
Can’t really say but one thing is sure he will be inconsistent with his stats in epl unlike in his la Liga days.

It is easy to do it in la liga bla bla. Who else is doing it aside Messi and Ronaldo? Abi its only easy for those two in la liga and hard for others?

eph12:

It is easy to do it in la liga bla bla. Who else is doing it aside Messi and Ronaldo? Abi its only easy for those two in la liga and hard for others?

Stop hyperventilating. Why didn’t he score more goals than his previous season in his last with Man U. Messi and cr7 are extraordinary players now, no one is disputing that fact but cr7 had remained in Epl he wouldn’t have been consistent with scoring 50 goals or more every season.

hensben:
Stop hyperventilating. Why didn’t he score more goals than his previous season in his last with Man U. Messi and cr7 are extraordinary players now, no one is disputing that fact but cr7 had remained in Epl he wouldn’t have been consistent with scoring 50 goals or more every season.

2011-2012 he scored 46 in la liga, 2012-13 he scored 34 and 31 in 13/14. La liga became tougher those two years, they quickly reduced the toughness so he could score more goals after those two years

eph12:

2011-2012 he scored 46 in la liga, 2012-13 he scored 34 and 31 in 13/14. La liga became tougher those two years, they quickly reduced the toughness so he could score more goals after those two years

hensben:
Stop hyperventilating. Why didn’t he score more goals than his previous season in his last with Man U. Messi and cr7 are extraordinary players now, no one is disputing that fact but cr7 had remained in Epl he wouldn’t have been consistent with scoring 50 goals or more every season.

Abeg, how many goals Messi score as at the time Ronaldo was in EPL?
What was his average per season?

You are forgetting that then, person go count one million leg over even for 1-1 match. But if you try am now the fit beat you.

Melvyn11:

You have jumped from your initial argument of doing it in a weaker league because I brought his record in the champions league to the quality of players he was playing with. How many other players in that Madrid team was averaging those same amount of goals playing with those same players? Put Ronaldo in the city team of the last 2 seasons and he will be banging in 60 to 70goals regularly. It's Ronaldo you are talking about my guy.

The evidence is showing in his champions league record. Why is he not able to replicate his Champions league goals in Juventus?

Even in that City team, Ronaldo will not score more than 30+ in the EPL. That City team was not as good as United of 2007-2009.

eph12:

2011-2012 he scored 46 in la liga, 2012-13 he scored 34 and 31 in 13/14. La liga became tougher those two years, they quickly reduced the toughness so he could score more goals after those two years

You see the way hensbrain thinks, thats why he is the senior prefect at airmark citadel of foolishness

elampiro:


The evidence is showing in his champions league record. Why is he not able to replicate his Champions league goals in Juventus?

Even in that City team, Ronaldo will not score more than 30+ in the EPL. That City team was not as good as United of 2007-2009.

Salah in 2 seasons in this same EPL scored 54 goals despite giving penalty duties to Milner sometimes. So Ronaldo wont do better than Salah?

hensben:
Stop hyperventilating. Why didn’t he score more goals than his previous season in his last with Man U. Messi and cr7 are extraordinary players now, no one is disputing that fact but cr7 had remained in Epl he wouldn’t have been consistent with scoring 50 goals or more every season.

Ronaldo in his last 2 seasons in La liga scored 26 and 25 league goals.

That must mean they increased the toughness of the league and shows Ronaldo cannot cope in Spain again but can cope in CL

Hensbrain no be so?