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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Melvyn11: 1:45pm On Feb 07, 2020
elampiro:


The evidence is showing in his champions league record. Why is he not able to replicate his Champions league goals in Juventus?

Even in that City team, Ronaldo will not score more than 30+ in the EPL. That City team was not as good as United of 2007-2009.
How many goals did the United of 2007-2009 score compared to the city of the last 2 seasons? With the numerous Chances city creates per game Ronaldo will be averaging 60goals per season.

How many champions league goals did Ronaldo score in first 2 seasons at Madrid and how many did he score in his latar years?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lienn: 1:45pm On Feb 07, 2020
elampiro:


The evidence is showing in his champions league record. Why is he not able to replicate his Champions league goals in Juventus?

[s]Even in that City team, Ronaldo will not score more than 30+ in the EPL. That City team was not as good as United of 2007-2009.[/s]

One of the stupidest comments you've made this year
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:47pm On Feb 07, 2020
Melvyn11:

If you check Ronaldo champions league goals and records you won't be making noise about the difficulty of Epl.

The UCL goals are as a result of the team mates he had in Madrid. He is a great player but a tree cannot make a forest.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:52pm On Feb 07, 2020
Melvyn11:

You are just going back and front. How much did United spend before they went to 3 champions league final in 4 yrs.? it's not only by spending money that you can build a strong squad capable of delivering trophies. You are confusing this United with the one Ronaldo was in. If Ronaldo had stayed United will attract more players and build a team to satisfy Ronaldo if they want to keep him at the club. It's that easy

United that were dilly dally on Ronaldinho until Barca swept him in the last minute. This is a player the world thought for 6 months he was already a United player. We were just watching Aguero in A.Madrid. We could not pay for Moura. We went for Kagawa instead of Hazard. Ferguson was not willing to break the bank. He always had it at the bank of his mind that he got Scholes and Giggs for nothing and so it shoupd be 80% of the time. City and Chelsea were buying whole squad.

United sold Ronaldo and bought only Valencia and Chicharito. In fact one Diouf was initially schedule to join out attacking line.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Melvyn11: 1:59pm On Feb 07, 2020
elampiro:


The UCL goals are as a result of the team mates he had in Madrid. He is a great player but a tree cannot make a forest.
Let's attribute every achievement to his team mates. You will also attribute his 93goals for Portugal to the world class team mates he have. The constant with Ronaldo is that he guarantees goals, lots of them any where and any competition even with 10 sticks Ronaldo will deliver goals.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:59pm On Feb 07, 2020
Melvyn11:

Very wrong my friend. During the latter part of his time with United, Ronaldo started in a centre-forward position more often under Ferguson for a short time. Even Mourinho used him as a winger untill Ancelotti brought the idea of using him as a striker which Ronaldo even said he was not comfortable with at first but then got used to it. Ronaldo scored 102 times during Ancelotti two years at Madrid including 61goals in one season.

Ronaaldo scored 18 EPL goals in his last season at United after scoring 31 the previous season. Consistency in the EPL is hard. Mau be because of the kind if defenders they prefer to buy. Huge black guys who can jump and run.

And Madrid broke bank to sign players which United would not have done.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Melvyn11: 2:06pm On Feb 07, 2020
elampiro:


Ronaaldo scored 18 EPL goals in his last season at United after scoring 31 the previous season. Consistency in the EPL is hard. Mau be because of the kind if defenders they prefer to buy. Huge black guys who can jump and run.

And Madrid broke bank to sign players which United would not have done.
Or maybe Ronaldo started the campaign with injury and after a summer where he wanted to leave United to Madrid but couldn't he no longer had any interest to give 100% longer.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:07pm On Feb 07, 2020
eph12:

It is easy to do it in la liga bla bla. Who else is doing it aside Messi and Ronaldo? Abi its only easy for those two in la liga and hard for others?

Suarez once scored 49 goals a season in all club competition while at Ajax.

The highest he scored at Liverpool was 31.

In Barca is scored 59 while at his peak
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:13pm On Feb 07, 2020
eph12:

2011-2012 he scored 46 in la liga, 2012-13 he scored 34 and 31 in 13/14. La liga became tougher those two years, they quickly reduced the toughness so he could score more goals after those two years

Your figures are wrong.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:14pm On Feb 07, 2020
afrodoc2:


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Lol his figures are wrong

Where he said Messi scored 31, he actually scored 46.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:19pm On Feb 07, 2020
odizeey:

Abeg, how many goals Messi score as at the time Ronaldo was in EPL?
What was his average per season?

You are forgetting that then, person go count one million leg over even for 1-1 match. But if you try am now the fit beat you.

Messi was still developing at the time playing shadow to Henry and Eto. Ronaldo reached high before Messi.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Melvyn11: 2:20pm On Feb 07, 2020
elampiro:


United that were dilly dally on Ronaldinho until Barca swept him in the last minute. This is a player the world thought for 6 months he was already a United player. We were just watching Aguero in A.Madrid. We could not pay for Moura. We went for Kagawa instead of Hazard. Ferguson was not willing to break the bank. He always had it at the bank of his mind that he got Scholes and Giggs for nothing and so it shoupd be 80% of the time. City and Chelsea were buying whole squad.

United sold Ronaldo and bought only Valencia and Chicharito. In fact one Diouf was initially schedule to join out attacking line.
You didn't answer my point. How much did United spend before they went to 3 champions league final in 4 yrs?. If Ronaldo had stayed United will attract more players and build a team to satisfy Ronaldo if they want to keep him at the club. That's what Juventus are doing right now building a team for Ronaldo to thrive.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 2:20pm On Feb 07, 2020
elampiro:


Lol his figures are wrong

Where he said Messi scored 31, he actually scored 46.

He was talking about Ronaldo. You no know ball.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:21pm On Feb 07, 2020
raumdeuter:


Salah in 2 seasons in this same EPL scored 54 goals despite giving penalty duties to Milner sometimes. So Ronaldo wont do better than Salah?

That is two seasons na. While at his peak and almost single handedly won the UCL for Liverpool. Ramos had to target him for elimination
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 2:23pm On Feb 07, 2020
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:23pm On Feb 07, 2020
raumdeuter:


Ronaldo in his last 2 seasons in La liga scored 26 and 25 league goals.

That must mean they increased the toughness of the league and shows Ronaldo cannot cope in Spain again but can cope in CL

Hensbrain no be so?

Due to injuries at the beginning of each of the seaons
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by kushercain: 2:27pm On Feb 07, 2020
elampiro:


Ronaaldo scored 18 EPL goals in his last season at United after scoring 31 the previous season. Consistency in the EPL is hard. Mau be because of the kind if defenders they prefer to buy. Huge black guys who can jump and run.

And Madrid broke bank to sign players which United would not have done.

Bros even me that I'm not a United fan I know the reason for this was because Fergie bought Berbertov and switched formation from a front 3 of Ronaldo, tevez, Rooney to a front two of Berbertov and rooney with Ronaldo playing LM
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:37pm On Feb 07, 2020
Melvyn11:

How many goals did the United of 2007-2009 score compared to the city of the last 2 seasons? With the numerous Chances city creates per game Ronaldo will be averaging 60goals per season.

How many champions league goals did Ronaldo score in first 2 seasons at Madrid and how many did he score in his latar years?

United win UCL during the time. City won nil.

In the first two seasons, Madrid were still assembly their team from the old team Mourinho inherited. Players lile Diarra and Raul were still there. Not sure Alonxo had even joined.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 2:39pm On Feb 07, 2020
elrony:
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You no see the yeye argument.

Ronaldo scored only 4 goals in champions league in 2008-2009 after scoring 8 goals in 2007-2008.

He also scored only 2 international goals in 15 games for Portugal.

Smart people will connect the dots and realize that Ronaldo had an off year in 2008-2009 whether it was in EPL, Champions League, or for Portugal.

Those who are not that smart will look at a single year and plot a graph showing a trend from it.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 2:42pm On Feb 07, 2020
Ronaldo can't have this same no of goals, had it bn he stayed in EPL......
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 2:46pm On Feb 07, 2020
Expert17:
Ronaldo can't have this same no of goals, had it bn he stayed in EPL......


He averaged 60 goals a year in all competitions while in Spain.
How many do you think he would have averaged in all competitions if he stayed in England?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 2:47pm On Feb 07, 2020
elampiro:


Messi was still developing at the time playing shadow to Henry and Eto. Ronaldo reach high before Messi.
Thank you for answering on my behalf. I have been busy with work. Will be done soon.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 2:50pm On Feb 07, 2020
This is very obvious that cr7 would not have had this number of goals if he had stayed in epl. You guys sha just want to argue everything
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Melvyn11: 2:52pm On Feb 07, 2020
elampiro:


United win UCL during the time. City won nil.

In the first two seasons, Madrid were still assembly their team from the old team Mourinho inherited. Players lile Diarra and Raul were still there. Not sure Alonxo had even joined.

I am not asking you for trophies won. I said put Ronaldo in the city team of the past 2 seasons and he will bang in 50goals if not more because they create tons of chances per match and their goal tally is insane. How many champions league goals did Ronaldo score in his first 2 seasons at Madrid and how many did he score later own? It's people like you that would use his first 2 seasons and say Ronaldo won't have been able to replicate his 2007/2008 form.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 2:55pm On Feb 07, 2020
afrodoc2:


He averaged 60 goals a year in all competitions while in Spain.
How many do you think he would have averaged in all competitions if he stayed in England?

Appearance- 196
Goals- 84
Assists- 34.
That's CR7 Statistics in EPL.
Scored 1 or 2 Hatricks.

I think is Laliga goals are more dan is appearance.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:58pm On Feb 07, 2020
Melvyn11:

Let's attribute every achievement to his team mates. You will also attribute his 93goals for Portugal to the world class team mates he have. The constant with Ronaldo is that he guarantees goals, lots of them any where and any competition even with 10 sticks Ronaldo will deliver goals.

No one is denying the fact that he is a good goal scorer but he cannot maintain that in the EPL.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:00pm On Feb 07, 2020
Expert17:


Appearance- 196
Goals- 84
Assists- 34.
That's CR7 Statistics in EPL.
Scored 1 or 2 Hatricks.

I think is Laliga goals are more dan is appearance.




That is not the question.
He came to the EPL as a teenager. Do you want to compare teenage Messi’s stats in la liga to 28 yr old Messi’s stats?

How many goals in all competitions (for club and country) do you think Ronaldo would have averaged in his peak years in his 20s if he had remained in the EPL considering he averaged 60 goals in Spain?
Just give a number.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Melvyn11: 3:00pm On Feb 07, 2020
elampiro:


No one is denying the fact that he is a good goal scorer but he cannot maintain that in the EPL.
You came up with that conclusion because of what exactly?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:02pm On Feb 07, 2020
Melvyn11:

You didn't answer my point. How much did United spend before they went to 3 champions league final in 4 yrs?. If Ronaldo had stayed United will attract more players and build a team to satisfy Ronaldo if they want to keep him at the club. That's what Juventus are doing right now building a team for Ronaldo to thrive.

Very little amount of money compared to what Chelsea and City spent. We bought Carrick, Anderson, Vidic, Evra, Nani. Later added Rapael, Smalling, Jones, Valencia, Chicharito.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:07pm On Feb 07, 2020
afrodoc2:


He was talking about Ronaldo. You no know ball.

If it is Ronaldo, he can see that number of matches played some role. When he scored 46, he was fit throughout the season and played 38 matches. The figures still do not have anything to do with 18 goals he scored at United.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:10pm On Feb 07, 2020
elampiro:


If it is Ronaldo, he can see that number of matches played some role. When he scored 46, he was fit throughout the season and played 38 matches. The figures still do not have anything to do with 18 goals he scored at United.

That year 2009 he scored only 4 goals in champions league. Scored only 1 goal in 7 games for Portugal.

He had a poor year all round, it wasn’t about the EPL.

I thought you were a statistician? How can you make a conclusion about a trend based on a single isolated outlier event.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 3:14pm On Feb 07, 2020
elampiro:


Lol his figures are wrong

Where he said Messi scored 31, he actually scored 46.
Are we talking about Messi or Ronaldo?

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