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Re: Why Did God Send Evil Spirit To Torment King Saul? by Amujale(m): 4:11pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
The Christian Bible is fake, false and counterintuituve. |
Re: Why Did God Send Evil Spirit To Torment King Saul? by k2money(m): 4:13pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Inteltower:Are you the Holy spirit? Leave the holy spirit to fight his fight. |
Re: Why Did God Send Evil Spirit To Torment King Saul? by JastSiryin(m): 4:16pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Inteltower:You're just a religious buffoon. Get wise 1 Like |
Re: Why Did God Send Evil Spirit To Torment King Saul? by k2money(m): 4:17pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Inteltower:Shut your face and leave me with that your holy spirit. I thought you will attack me so I know what to do to teach you lessons. Go read your Bible and stop eating poo your pastors is feeding you with. When the holy spirit fell on people they start speaking in tongues not the rubbish you people are now speaking ó, because the Bible make us to understand that people from another tribe and language understand them. Which of the GO have this kind of spirit?. Try to dare me this afternoon. |
Re: Why Did God Send Evil Spirit To Torment King Saul? by Amujale(m): 4:26pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
The Christian Bible is a fraud. 1 Like |
Re: Why Did God Send Evil Spirit To Torment King Saul? by Amujale(m): 4:28pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Similar to all the Abrahamic religious text, the Christian Bible is a magic trick. 1 Like |
Re: Why Did God Send Evil Spirit To Torment King Saul? by Amujale(m): 4:30pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Divert all that positive energy and intelligence towards real history. The Christian Bible is a book fiction that was manufactured by the Romans, not the biblicalsic ones but the real historical Romans. |
Re: Why Did God Send Evil Spirit To Torment King Saul? by Amujale(m): 4:44pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Africans are the generic heroes of world history that both Christianity and Islam both fail in their attempts to basterdise, downplay and or destroy. Christianity is a Roman mockery of the Greek Hellenistic religions. Islam is an Arabian fundamentalist mockery of a Eurocentric concept. Let's bin all the mumbojumbo of the Greek Hellenistic religions and focus our concentration on reality, real history. Who is the most influential person in your world today? Follow the link to participate in a social experience and educate us on these kind of matters. https://www.nairaland.com/5674944/marcus-garvey-malcom-x-jesus#86465549 |
Re: Why Did God Send Evil Spirit To Torment King Saul? by Legendguru: 4:47pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Oh |
Re: Why Did God Send Evil Spirit To Torment King Saul? by SangoOlukosoOba(m): 5:18pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Fairy tale Fiction! |
Re: Why Did God Send Evil Spirit To Torment King Saul? by SangoOlukosoOba(m): 5:18pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Amujale: You are knowledgeable and vast. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Did God Send Evil Spirit To Torment King Saul? by Amujale(m): 5:33pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
SangoOlukosoOba: Brother, thank you. May you continue to prosper. Assist us in the battle to take back control of our legacy. Follow the link to participate in a social experience and educate us on these kind of matters. https://www.nairaland.com/5674944/marcus-garvey-malcom-x-jesus#86465549 |
Re: Why Did God Send Evil Spirit To Torment King Saul? by Amujale(m): 5:36pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
AizeahYared: Jesus is a fictitious character. https://www.nairaland.com/5674944/marcus-garvey-malcom-x-jesus#86465549 |
Re: Why Did God Send Evil Spirit To Torment King Saul? by Inteltower: 5:57pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
k2money: when they are caught off guard they try to avoid the question. |
Re: Why Did God Send Evil Spirit To Torment King Saul? by Inteltower: 5:59pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
k2money: Awww what a nice erroneous assumption.. continue ok |
Re: Why Did God Send Evil Spirit To Torment King Saul? by kufreabasi2013(m): 5:59pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Colossians 2:10. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Did God Send Evil Spirit To Torment King Saul? by Minemrys: 6:14pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Inteltower:n0t that i am in support of who u are insulting, but if ur words are harsh to s0me0ne seeking an explanati0n for s0mething he doesn't understand, then i can imagine ur hypocrisy when u cho0se to c0ndemn pagans who did u no wr0ng. |
Re: Why Did God Send Evil Spirit To Torment King Saul? by Nobody: 6:41pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
There was nothing like evil spirit in heaven before the some angels committed a blunder and God separated them from obedient angels. Genesis 6:1-6, 1Peter 3:19-20, 2Peter 2:4-5, Jude 6 Both the angels and demons live in heaven until Jesus later sent them out of heaven. Revelations 12:7-12 What the writer of 1Samuel was saying is that one of those fallen angels possessed Saul. Luke 11:24-26 But David whose songs invites God's holy spirit will drive such demon away with his spirit filled songs! So God never sent evil spirit to anyone, but since he permits these rebellious angels to possess evildoers, the Bible writer was inspired to say "an evil spirit from the Lord" meaning one of the fallen angels who have been separated from God! James 1:13-15 1 Like
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Re: Why Did God Send Evil Spirit To Torment King Saul? by k2money(m): 6:49pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Inteltower:Which question ask me again I will answer you |
Re: Why Did God Send Evil Spirit To Torment King Saul? by engrchykae(m): 6:55pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
1StopRudeness:as Isaiah said, God is excellent in wisdom and wonderful in working. Fear God and you won't fear anyone be it spirits or so called strongmen. The voice of the Lord is mightier than the noise of many waters.ie if the opposing powers is coming from the waters,they are simply making noise. The voice of the Lord breaketh the cedar in Lebanon,this covers all herbalists. When you are righteous without blemish,you are on another realm,the envy of gods,a man who prevailed. Gravity have no power over such exalted,christed men. |
Re: Why Did God Send Evil Spirit To Torment King Saul? by k2money(m): 7:01pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Inteltower:If this is the question, why have your holy spirit not react when Christians have been turn to cow and being slaughter everyday all over the world?. If the holy spirit keep mute to this who are you to rise for holy spirit. My brother I don't have anything against you am just trying to let you know that nobody knows the truth so leave judgment to God. If he's that power let him fight his battle. As I am in into many religions. Have seen have conquer, all seems to have theirs flaws. No religion is perfect fallible too much in their story. The best of them all is the Ifá religion base on being my ancestors religion but Orunmila also thought his Followers many myths. Jesus is the easier of all the doctrines but it's a shame Nigeria is not practicing Jesus religion but Abraham religion. |
Re: Why Did God Send Evil Spirit To Torment King Saul? by Kenneth10110(m): 7:34pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Inteltower: Why using the word 'fool' |
Re: Why Did God Send Evil Spirit To Torment King Saul? by Etogist: 7:49pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
MamaFryo: Like someone must play Judas for christ to accomplish his mission. All I can deduce from all these is Mystery. God is Mystery and his creation, mysterious. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Did God Send Evil Spirit To Torment King Saul? by photon3106: 7:50pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
The Evil spirit from God came upon Saul as a result of God's Spirit departing from him. I think the bone of contention here is the phrase ...evil spirit from God . While this can be read to literarly mean that the evil spirit was dwelling with God before it was sent and that God 'used' it to punish Saul, it does not conform to the true nature of God as seen in verses such as Job 34:10, 1John 4:8. Although Isaiah 45:7 reveals that Evil is created by God, it does not imply that God uses evil to punish sinners. You (say being A) can create an object B for a purpose. Object B can in turn create an unintended object C probably due to a malfucntion. Since A creates B creates C, then by transivity law, A creates C. This is the case of God, Lucifer and Evil. God is not evil and so can not punish with evil but He ALLOWS the Devil to exercise evil intents for the sake of trials, temptation and punishment. Saul's case was similar to that of Job (although OP does not want Job's case cited). According to 1John 4:3, any spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ is come in flesh is not of God: and that is that spirit of antichrist... Every evil spirit is an antichrist spirit. Therefore, the evil spirit that possessed Saul is not of God. '...from God...' as used in the case of Saul does not mean that the spirit is of God . Rather, it is pointing to an observational view that an evil spirit was seen leaving the presence of God to Saul just like Satan was seen leaving the presence of God to Job. |
Re: Why Did God Send Evil Spirit To Torment King Saul? by Adeparo004(m): 8:40pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Becos he knows the king is stubborn and he want to let d isrealites does note have faith in him completely.. God f did wat he did to keep d promise he had with dere ancestors Oluromantic: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Did God Send Evil Spirit To Torment King Saul? by PhantomXcess: 9:28pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
The simple answer here is: The devil/demon/evil spirit/satan was not revealed to the early humans/Israelites of the Bible...only until several chapters later. So, everything good or evil was credited to God which makes sense because they only knew and had relationship with him. It was also why Moses identified satan in the garden as "the serpent", it wasn't until later, that John connected the dots and said "that old serpent, which is the devil and satan". MamaFryo: |
Re: Why Did God Send Evil Spirit To Torment King Saul? by JOHNBULLZZ: 11:39pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
All the answers are in the bible. many xtians do not read the bible and out of the few that read, less than 0.001% understand because of Math. 13v10 down. All my bible quotations are from the modern english bible ie: good news and living. The universe has only one commander. Our Lord taught the disciples the bible only in private. This was physical but after CHRIST died and resurrected HE now operates in the spiritual. see 1John 2v27. He teaches those who He indwells. Now to answer your question: ALL COMMANDS IN THE UNIVERSE COME FROM GOD ALMIGHTY ONLY. satan is a servant of GOD and takes direct orders from GOD. In job 1v6 the commander held a meeting with HIS service chiefs and you can see the commander discussing with satan here refereed to as one of the heavenly beings on how to torture Job.GOD WANTED TO PROMOTE JOB AND SO WANTED HIM TO BE PURIFIED THRU FIRE. In job 1v12 GOD gave satan the permission to start work on Job and without wasting time satan sent his agents on earth. GOD WANTED TO FIND OUT IF JOB WILL WORSHIP HIM IN SEVERE ADVERSITY. Also in luke 22v31 our LORD JESUS give permission to satan to test Peter. In isaiah 45v7 GOD TELLS US THAT HE IS THE ONE THAT DO GOOD AND EVIL. ALSO READ AMOS 3V6 . In romans 8v28 we see that everything that GOD does is good because EVERY THING THAT GOD DOES WORK FOR GOOD WHETHER YOU SEE IT OR NOT. IT IS BECAUSE OF THIS VERSE THAT THOSE IN CHRIST MUST GIVE GOD THANKS IN ALL SITUATIONS. WE HUMAN BEINGS KNOW GOOD AND BAD BECAUSE OF THE FRUIT OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND BAD THAT ADAM AND EVE ATE. THIS IS WHAT CHRIST CAME TO CORRECT. What our LORD wants from HIS followers is obedience even onto death as HE did. Nobody questions GOD. But humanly speaking, saul committed two great offences. Both are cases of disobedience. case no.1 = in samuel 10v8 Samuel told saul " I will surely come down to you to sacrifice burnt offerings and fellowship offerings, ... You should wait for seven days, until I arrive and tell you what to do." but in Samuel 13v9 because Samuel did not come to Gilgal, and the troops began to desert Saul, Saul did the sacrifice. Saul was logically right, but GOD does not deal with logic. In the second case :- 1 samuel 15v3 king saul was given a very clear instruction " go and attack and completly destroy the Amalekites but verse 7 tells us king saul defeated the Amalekites but spared their king and the best sheep and cattle. The bible is for very serious and committed Christians. The bible is real. For example when Damascus was still a bubbling thriving city, 3000 yrs ago isaiah in chapter 17v1 wrote "The Lord said Damascus will no longer be a city but a pile of ruins. How the world will end and what will happen to the usa called mystery babylon, where the 3rd world war will start from, everything is in the Holy bible. The 3rd world war is not the end of the world but at least one continent will go. SO MUCH TO SAY. You can see that the bible is sweet. EMMANUEL 09031918317 |
Re: Why Did God Send Evil Spirit To Torment King Saul? by TeeMacKuz: 11:53pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
Inteltower: you call yourself a Christian yet the amount of "fools" you typed in your statement would make Mama Biliki (wey sabi curse) to squirm |
Re: Why Did God Send Evil Spirit To Torment King Saul? by LeeSantos(m): 6:02am On Feb 10, 2020 |
Inteltower: Says some1 speaking from the back of their brain! |
Re: Why Did God Send Evil Spirit To Torment King Saul? by maak400: 7:22am On Feb 10, 2020 |
hupernikao:So what is your answer to the topic? Since you have studied the scriptures, provide your own response. |
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