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Re: 330-Million-Year-Old Shark's Head Fossilized In Kentucky Cave Found By Scientist by SenatePresdo(m): 4:39pm On Feb 13, 2020
DropsMic:



.. You are a black man... So no surprise here

Yes I'm a black man, and a proud one.
But the fact that I don't know something in everything doesn't make me less from any human.

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Re: 330-Million-Year-Old Shark's Head Fossilized In Kentucky Cave Found By Scientist by BeLookingIDIOT(m): 4:39pm On Feb 13, 2020
BigJoe19:
I am really ashamed. Sometimes when whites give racist remarks on blacks, I just laugh because deep down we gave them the opportunity to do it.
What opportunity undecided
Don't white evangelical christains believe and utter worse absurdities than these ones here.
Stupidity knows no race

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Re: 330-Million-Year-Old Shark's Head Fossilized In Kentucky Cave Found By Scientist by NeoWanZaeed(m): 4:40pm On Feb 13, 2020
Ykc2:
how plane dey take dey fly ?how you go dey naija call person wey dey Brazil or Australia he go answer you go even see him for video call,how rocket dey go moon you no know how submarine dey go under water you no know and you wan argue about shark's age take your mentality to Chad or Somalia where people with type of your mindsets live

Laughing ..

Rocket and moon na Hollywood . Go read about it.

Sharks age.. really?
Re: 330-Million-Year-Old Shark's Head Fossilized In Kentucky Cave Found By Scientist by philip0906(m): 4:42pm On Feb 13, 2020
BlackAce31:

Lol, I hope you asked this question with an open mind and not to argue.
Having said that, while I'm a science student (not the Olamide type, lol) I'm no expert on thus subject matter neither does my field relate to this but I'd try to use basic chemistry to explain the best way I can. I might not be really accurate
But with regards to how this carbon dating works, here's what I remember. There's something called half life. Most elements have a certain number of time for it to decay to half its size continually. Say like an hypothetical element P has a half life of 1 year. If there is 1000 P in a certain bag by this time by next year you'd meet just 500, by the year after just 250.
Now carbon has it's own half life (I think) which is very large (more than 1 year). Now,let's say its half life is 10yrs and on average a human bone contains 1000 of it. Since the body would stop functioning after death, if I see a corpse and check how many carbon is contained in its bones and it's just 500 I can safely say the corpse had been decaying for 10years.
But truth is not everyone has the same number of carbon. We would each have numbers different but close to the average that science specifies for each human being. While there is no way to surely know how many a particular corpse contains at the time of death, the average could be used and the time calculated would only be an estimate.
This is just the basic concept I can remember from secondary. Might not really be accurate but I believe is the general overview
Buttom line, carbon dating is NOT accurate and should not be taken as the absolute answer . Simples!!
Re: 330-Million-Year-Old Shark's Head Fossilized In Kentucky Cave Found By Scientist by Ykc2(m): 4:43pm On Feb 13, 2020
NeoWanZaeed:


Laughing ..

Rocket and moon na Hollywood . Go read about it.

Sharks age.. really?

why you no use your village shrine send message to somebody in another country
Re: 330-Million-Year-Old Shark's Head Fossilized In Kentucky Cave Found By Scientist by 2sexycom(m): 4:46pm On Feb 13, 2020
MRAKBEE:
The dude up there is a genius.. He is probably not using glo network like me.
Oyinbo self dey confused. How come they keep coming up with different dates after discovering some fossils buried somewhere? Is there any precise instrument for measuring the age of these discoveries or its just mere estimation?

Naija Wetin concern us with fossil when the whole country is in total confusion? .. Yesterday, slim shaddy was booed in Borno State and boko boys attacked the same area the second time.

Abeg make una help me tell that overhyped Fela wannabe that a drum that sounds louder is about to burst.
If you did chemistry, there is something called "Carbon Dating" or "Radiocarbon dating" which we were taught in secondary school. It is used to determine the age of objects or substances. There may be other advance technology now for similar roles.

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Re: 330-Million-Year-Old Shark's Head Fossilized In Kentucky Cave Found By Scientist by Nobody: 4:47pm On Feb 13, 2020
BigJoe19:
Do you know why I laugh? Africans don't take corrections, they like sticking to tales of things they can't see, feel or hear from, they take such things sacred.

Yeah. We just label whatever we don't understand or can't fully comprehend a 'deity'.

Lol...
Re: 330-Million-Year-Old Shark's Head Fossilized In Kentucky Cave Found By Scientist by isan(m): 4:48pm On Feb 13, 2020
Sense will not kee u grin
Temple1288:
grin

Meanwhile Scientists from the Zoo called Nigeria are lined up in Winners Chapel screaming AMEN!

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Re: 330-Million-Year-Old Shark's Head Fossilized In Kentucky Cave Found By Scientist by BlackAce31(m): 4:53pm On Feb 13, 2020
philip0906:

Buttom line, carbon dating is NOT accurate and should not be taken as the absolute answer . Simples!!
Lol I dont know how scientist publish their answers. Remember I already said I was using secondary school chemistry to explain. Ask the experts. Perhaps the potential errors were already factored into calculations. Possibly they published the lower limit of the range gotten from calculations. But saying their answers should not be taken as absolute is funny cos most science theories and inventions are not accurate (in the sense you're implying)
Why is ur generator having an average power rating and a maximum power rating. Does that mean generators shouldnt be taken seriously??

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Re: 330-Million-Year-Old Shark's Head Fossilized In Kentucky Cave Found By Scientist by seankay(m): 4:53pm On Feb 13, 2020
realstars:
If that record is true, that must be the time of the great flood.
But Back in Nigeria they is no such of records above 200 yeres, dose is mean that our ancestors eat everything as we do today?

LMAO!!!! Bruh! There’s nothing like that in science. On the geological time scale, there were different species whose presence were influenced by temperature, forage and all.
Re: 330-Million-Year-Old Shark's Head Fossilized In Kentucky Cave Found By Scientist by kevoh(m): 4:56pm On Feb 13, 2020
philip0906:

Firstly, there is NOTHING straight forward about the method, else it won't be prone to errors. Like I said, carbon dating several times, has had it's accuracy questioned by scientists.
I reiterate it's quite straight forward. Questioning the accuracy of a method is part of science. Even at 100% efficiency, scientists will still question it's accuracy and reperfect the technique. That's the beauty of it. The phone you are using to type right now was quite crude years ago.

philip0906:

Secondly, my point is, it is ridiculous to lampoon Biblical timeline on the grounds that it's accuracy is questionable, when the scientific alternative, is as questionable as the one we accuse.
I have not mentioned the bible. Let's not go there. The bible can only be used to validate the bible! Too many inconsistencies and most importantly, there's no room for questioning obvious errors and illogicality. Please let's not even go there.

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Re: 330-Million-Year-Old Shark's Head Fossilized In Kentucky Cave Found By Scientist by justlikedat: 4:57pm On Feb 13, 2020
330 million years or 330 million seconds?
Re: 330-Million-Year-Old Shark's Head Fossilized In Kentucky Cave Found By Scientist by Temple1288(m): 5:02pm On Feb 13, 2020
isan:
Sense will not kee u grin


grin
Re: 330-Million-Year-Old Shark's Head Fossilized In Kentucky Cave Found By Scientist by philip0906(m): 5:10pm On Feb 13, 2020
kevoh:

I reiterate it's quite straight forward. Questioning the accuracy of a method is part of science. Even at 100% efficiency, scientists will still question it's accuracy and reperfect the technique. That's the beauty of it. [s]The phone you are using to type right now was quite crude years ago[/s].
The stricken out makes no sense in the context of our discourse as it is comparing oranges with apples...it's not like for like.

There are so many things science has PROVEN beyond reasonable doubt, that NO ONE argues against or questions. So many theories that have been proposed and proven to be true tens of years back, no one questions.

BUT, once a theory is questioned by even the proponents i.e scientists with divergent views as to it's accuracy (been called into question), any one anywhere can disregard such theories since it's still up in the air in debate or still has grey areas.

In this case, scientists have said a shark head is 330 million years old, a sane person can decide to disregard that. An example:
A new research conducted by Cornell University could be about to throw the field of archaeology on its head with the claim that there could be a number of inaccuracies in commonly accepted carbon dating standards.

If this is true, then many of our established historical timelines are thrown into question, potentially needing a re-write of the history books.

Who knows how many more inconsistencies there is with this method.



I have not mentioned the bible. Let's not go there. The bible can only be used to validate the bible! Too many inconsistencies and most importantly, there's no room for questioning obvious errors and illogicality. Please let's not even go there.

It is not about the Bible...My point is, if there are still flaws with radiocarbon dating, there is absolutely no ground to disregard the other option, the Bible (I am not going into that arguement either, as I am limiting this to the scope of dating fossils and human life)

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Re: 330-Million-Year-Old Shark's Head Fossilized In Kentucky Cave Found By Scientist by juwoonn(m): 5:10pm On Feb 13, 2020
Johnjnr:

RADIOISOTOPIC DATING
I have issues with its precision
Re: 330-Million-Year-Old Shark's Head Fossilized In Kentucky Cave Found By Scientist by realstars: 5:12pm On Feb 13, 2020
seankay:


LMAO!!!! Bruh! There’s nothing like that in science. On the geological time scale, there were different species whose presence were influenced by temperature, forage and all.
Is it science that made the world? Or can God lie?
Re: 330-Million-Year-Old Shark's Head Fossilized In Kentucky Cave Found By Scientist by Aidejay(m): 5:15pm On Feb 13, 2020
Temple1288:
grin

Meanwhile Scientists from the Zoo called Nigeria are lined up in Winners Chapel screaming AMEN!
Jesus........!
shocked
cry

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Re: 330-Million-Year-Old Shark's Head Fossilized In Kentucky Cave Found By Scientist by handsomeyinka(m): 5:29pm On Feb 13, 2020
mansakhalifa:


Lock it up if you can't read and comprehend.

You saw it in that article where it was clearly stated that the fossils came from a period when that part of the continent was still beneath the ocean. Do you have any idea how old this planet is? Do you have an idea how much metamorphosis it has undergone?

Why is it so hard for you guys to read and comprehend stuff or think deeply? No wonder we still lag behind in the sciences. And I hope to Jah that you are not a 'science student'.

Now read this:

The sharks lived about 330 million years ago in what is known as the Late Mississippian geologic time period, when much of North America was covered by oceans.
You must have been hit on the nerve...
Re: 330-Million-Year-Old Shark's Head Fossilized In Kentucky Cave Found By Scientist by bmdmixer: 5:31pm On Feb 13, 2020
SenatePresdo:
How this guys calculate the years of this fossils that stretches to hundreds of million still baffles me.
u dey mind them, dem go just pour rubbish from mouth because dem get certificate
Re: 330-Million-Year-Old Shark's Head Fossilized In Kentucky Cave Found By Scientist by DropsMic(m): 5:33pm On Feb 13, 2020
philip0906:

You still did not answer the question.

How do they know that the fossil up there is 330 million years old? This is science, right? Science tells us to use PROOFs & FACTS to validate. What proof & FACT do we have available to definitely say, the fossil has been PROVEN (visible & tangible) that the fossil is 330 million?


Go and read about carbon dating
Re: 330-Million-Year-Old Shark's Head Fossilized In Kentucky Cave Found By Scientist by philip0906(m): 5:37pm On Feb 13, 2020
DropsMic:


Go and read about carbon dating
I have answered already that carbon dating is inaccurate and has been called to question severally by scientists...So I can not use that as a definite and absolute fact.

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Re: 330-Million-Year-Old Shark's Head Fossilized In Kentucky Cave Found By Scientist by TinyHacker: 5:40pm On Feb 13, 2020
Gnaeusmagnus:


Radio carbon dating
The older a sample is, the less 14
C there is to be detected, and because the half-life of 14
C (the period of time after which half of a given sample will have decayed) is about 5,730 years, the oldest dates that can be reliably measured by this process date to around 50,000 years ago
50,000 years reliability threshold but these scientists spouting 330 million years, well it's CNN what do you expect? even other radiometric dating(Radio carbon is the most accurate), I believe to be inaccurate above a certain amount of years as there is no way for them to verify their measurements are right on these "1 billion" year old objects, only on maybe 50,000 and the likes.
Re: 330-Million-Year-Old Shark's Head Fossilized In Kentucky Cave Found By Scientist by Temple1288(m): 5:41pm On Feb 13, 2020
Aidejay:
Jesus........!
shocked
cry

lipsrsealed
Re: 330-Million-Year-Old Shark's Head Fossilized In Kentucky Cave Found By Scientist by Aidejay(m): 5:43pm On Feb 13, 2020
philip0906:

I have answered already that carbon dating is inaccurate and has been called to question severally by scientists...So I can not use that as a definite and absolute fact.
Mr carbon dating is inaccurate please suggest to us how old the shark heard is using your own accurate methods.
Re: 330-Million-Year-Old Shark's Head Fossilized In Kentucky Cave Found By Scientist by Deepocean(m): 5:44pm On Feb 13, 2020
If you care to read, search for "Dating in Geochemistry". But if you're the lazy type just google Zircon Dating. Then your question will be answered. The earth has been existing for 4.5 billion years, so 330 million years is just a an infinitesimal age.



ejimatic:
. 330 millions years? what is the possible age of the whole according to scientists?
Re: 330-Million-Year-Old Shark's Head Fossilized In Kentucky Cave Found By Scientist by philip0906(m): 5:50pm On Feb 13, 2020
BlackAce31:

Lol I dont know how scientist publish their answers. Remember I already said I was using secondary school chemistry to explain. Ask the experts. Perhaps the potential errors were already factored into calculations. Possibly they published the lower limit of the range gotten from calculations. But saying their answers should not be taken as absolute is funny cos most science theories and inventions are not accurate (in the sense you're implying)
This is your assumption. Carbon dating is a scientific method that is ONLY written on a piece of paper as a theory and has absolutely no visible or tangible way to prove.

This method/theory/ has severally been called to question by scientists

Science has proven a number of things that can and are applied in our every day life that cannot be questioned. How do you validate as proof something that happened years back, aside jargons?

Why is ur generator having an average power rating and a maximum power rating. Does that mean generators shouldnt be taken seriously??
This comparison does not make ANY sense as it's not like for like. I mean, I can see the generator and can see the effect of changing the power ratings as against tales written down in a book, that CANNOT be proven, aside jargons written in a book...which is exactly what scientists have against the bible.

Can anyone prove that the shark head is 330 million years aside theories written down on a piece of paper?

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Re: 330-Million-Year-Old Shark's Head Fossilized In Kentucky Cave Found By Scientist by philip0906(m): 5:52pm On Feb 13, 2020
Aidejay:
Mr carbon dating is inaccurate please suggest to us how old the shark heard is using your own accurate methods.
I do not have any accurate date neither do I expect any sane person to believe a theory or method that CANNOT be proven in any tangible and verifiable way, aside pure jargons written down on a piece of paper.

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Re: 330-Million-Year-Old Shark's Head Fossilized In Kentucky Cave Found By Scientist by joinnow: 5:56pm On Feb 13, 2020
MRAKBEE:
The dude up there is a genius.. He is probably not using glo network like me.
Oyinbo self dey confused. How come they keep coming up with different dates after discovering some fossils buried somewhere? Is there any precise instrument for measuring the age of these discoveries or its just mere estimation?

Nobi if pesin chop belleful he go get time dey find fosil.
the equipment na carbon dating bro

Naija Wetin concern us with fossil when the whole country is in total confusion? .. Yesterday, slim shaddy was booed in Borno State and boko boys attacked the same area the second time.

Abeg make una help me tell that overhyped Fela wannabe that a drum that sounds louder is about to burst.
Re: 330-Million-Year-Old Shark's Head Fossilized In Kentucky Cave Found By Scientist by joinnow: 5:57pm On Feb 13, 2020
MRAKBEE:
The dude up there is a genius.. He is probably not using glo network like me.
Oyinbo self dey confused. How come they keep coming up with different dates after discovering some fossils buried somewhere? Is there any precise instrument for measuring the age of these discoveries or its just mere estimation?

Nobi if pesin chop belleful he go get time dey find fosil.
the equipment na carbon dating bro

Naija Wetin concern us with fossil when the whole country is in total confusion? .. Yesterday, slim shaddy was booed in Borno State and boko boys attacked the same area the second time.

Abeg make una help me tell that overhyped Fela wannabe that a drum that sounds louder is about to burst.
Re: 330-Million-Year-Old Shark's Head Fossilized In Kentucky Cave Found By Scientist by seankay(m): 5:58pm On Feb 13, 2020
realstars:
Is it science that made the world? Or can God lie?

So did God tell you himself?
Re: 330-Million-Year-Old Shark's Head Fossilized In Kentucky Cave Found By Scientist by Aidejay(m): 6:01pm On Feb 13, 2020
philip0906:

I do not have any accurate date neither do I expect any sane person to believe a theory or method that CANNOT be proven in any tangible and verifiable way, aside pure jargons written down on a piece of paper.
sincerely hoping you are going to do something tangible about it. Like inventing your own dating method rather than spending time expecting this and that.
Re: 330-Million-Year-Old Shark's Head Fossilized In Kentucky Cave Found By Scientist by Nobody: 6:07pm On Feb 13, 2020
The Atheists come and see oo

Food don done o

Their celebration go start right away.

grin

330 million Years grin

Undiluted miscalculation and lies


grin

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