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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 9:48am On Feb 14, 2020
9jamyHome:
Lol, that's funny. I strongly disagree with the bolded. Well, that shows how bad the managerial system is. The managerial system entails all areas of the football management. I"m pretty very sure that someone like Martial wouldn't be collecting any close to that amount if playing in a better system and he still be offering more. These guys are talented but just need a good system to operate. The likes Periera, James, Martial and few others would be Ronaldos and Messis of the next decades if allowed to operate in a system that works.

You can't give what you don't have, no need bringing gods like Ronaldo and Messi to a Manchester United conversation, it's wrong.

Periera will still not perform in whatever magical system you see (his Brazilian roots are suspect), James is limited in certain aspects of the game (He's mainly a speedster). Only Martial truly has the potential you speak of, but his attitude just has to change, can't be giving a 24 yr old man milk from feeding bottle every time. Smh
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 9:53am On Feb 14, 2020
GloryIsaac:


Did you go through the skysports link?

OGS made it clear that they (esp Martial) were supposed to make runs in-between the defence in anticipation of Bruno and Mata's passes, but they failed to do so (Against Wolves).
I didn't need to go through the link to see something that is very obvious and has been lacking in the club for some time. It's not only against Wolves. Generally, off the ball movement is always poor in every match. I expect the coach to drill the entire team on movements off and on the ball. No evidence of that for the major part of the last 12 months.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 9:58am On Feb 14, 2020
eph12:

I didn't need to go through the link to see something that is very obvious and has been lacking in the club for some time. It's not only against Wolves. Generally, off the ball movement is always poor in every match. I expect the coach to drill the entire team on movements off and on the ball. No evidence of that for the major part of the last 12 months.

Let's see how that goes in the next couple of matches. Still check the link though.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 10:22am On Feb 14, 2020
Leyqute:


Lukaku is the only person doing well out of those we sold to Inter. And we didn’t want to sell him. He wanted to leave and made his wish clear. The problem was not replacing him.

Sanchez, Young are bench huggers. They’re still dead woods. No rejuvenated nonsense.

Moyes inherited a team of veterans, didn’t really buy anybody, and tried to change too many things too soon. That was his Waterloo. Plus, he wasn’t that good and the shoes were too big for him.

About Pogba- If the team that’s supposed to do well isn’t doing well, some players will start acting funny. Coutinho is a good example.

When Klop ended his first season at position 8, always dropping points from winning position did you see anything? If you were a Liverpool fan you’d probably be comparing him with Bill Shankly and calling for his head.

Let’s stop all these parochial yarnings. The problem at United is not the coach alone. LvG and Mourinho’s tenure was telling.

Are these top coaches? Why didn’t they get the best out of these players? Abi they also don’t have taktiks?

Let’s llook at the big picture and stop thinking unilaterally abeg.

LVG n mourinho v already lost their magic before dey came to man UTD.At their peak dey will never come to man UTD. LVG style of play was constant back pass within our half.He called it den possessive football. Nonsense.At his peak can mourinho ever come to spurs? Dey r wash up n living in past Glory. Get a good coach n everything will fall into place.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Chrisus(m): 10:26am On Feb 14, 2020
United better get Sancho.

Cos Sancho and Ziyech at Chelsea will be a nightmare

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 11:12am On Feb 14, 2020
9jamyHome:
Lol, that's funny. I strongly disagree with the bolded. Well, that shows how bad the managerial system is. The managerial system entails all areas of the football management. I"m pretty very sure that someone like Martial wouldn't be collecting any close to that amount if playing in a better system and he still be offering more. These guys are talented but just need a good system to operate. The likes Periera, James, Martial and few others would be Ronaldos and Messis of the next decades if allowed to operate in a system that works.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 11:14am On Feb 14, 2020
eph12:

I didn't need to go through the link to see something that is very obvious and has been lacking in the club for some time. It's not only against Wolves. Generally, off the ball movement is always poor in every match. I expect the coach to drill the entire team on movements off and on the ball. No evidence of that for the major part of the last 12 months.

Except Ole is just realising off the ball movements are poor, drilling that into the ears of our players should have yielded some improvements in that aspect of our game. But from beginning of season till now we have noticed that off/on the ball movements in the team get as e be.

Except both players and coach are just dumb and don't know how to communicate with each other.

Its rather annoying that the same issue of lack of movement by the players still persist deep into the season.

I just tire.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 11:21am On Feb 14, 2020
9jamyHome:
But this is the same Lingard we all praised so well at some points? Things might not be working well for him on the field but rather than stigmatizing every player when things are not going well, we should rather look deep down to see if the system is actually right.

Lingard has been in the senior team for 5 years +.

He had one “not so bad” season. The rest are crap.

How long should we wait for a 28year old to reach his potential?

You probably don’t watch enough of Man Utd’s matches to be talking like that.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 11:24am On Feb 14, 2020
engrelvis:
LVG n mourinho v already lost their magic before dey came to man UTD.At their peak dey will never come to man UTD. LVG style of play was constant back pass within our half.He called it den possessive football. Nonsense.At his peak can mourinho ever come to spurs? Dey r wash up n living in past Glory. Get a good coach n everything will fall into place.

Why couldn’t Pep make good use of Sagna, Zabaleta and Iheanacho?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 11:28am On Feb 14, 2020
codedguy1:


Except Ole is just realising off the ball movements are poor, drilling that into the ears of our players should have yielded some improvements in that aspect of our game. But from beginning of season till now we have noticed that off/on the ball movements in the team get as e be.

Except both players and coach are just dumb and don't know how to communicate with each other.

Its rather annoying that the same issue of lack of movement by the players still persist deep into the season.

I just tire.

These players “understood “ off the ball movement when Ole was an interim manager, what happened?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 11:41am On Feb 14, 2020
Leyqute:


These players “understood “ off the ball movement when Ole was an interim manager, what happened?

That's a million dollar question.

Wat hapin?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 11:44am On Feb 14, 2020
Chrisus:
United better get Sancho.

Cos Sancho and Ziyech at Chelsea will be a nightmare

Facts only.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 11:47am On Feb 14, 2020
GloryIsaac:


Did you go through the skysports link?

OGS made it clear that they (esp Martial) were supposed to make runs in-between the defence in anticipation of Bruno and Mata's passes, but they failed to do so (Against Wolves).

It is not a matter of telling them to make runs, you have to implement the right training schemes to develop the ability to make high quality runs.

It is the job of the coach.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 2:23pm On Feb 14, 2020
Leyqute:


Lingard has been in the senior team for 5 years +.

He had one “not so bad” season. The rest are crap.

How long should we wait for a 28year old to reach his potential?

You probably don’t watch enough of Man Utd’s matches to be talking like that.

Jokes apart, your coach is the main problem of your players not playing to their bests.

I won't be surprised if Lingard plays under Conte and improves. Most players that trained under him confirmed that his training sessions were always demanding. If you are useless under a coach like Conte, it's 99% sure, you will be useless in any big team, under any coach.

I thank God Conte is not your coach now.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BlueAngel444: 2:42pm On Feb 14, 2020
weedtaker:
Dis Ziyech deal pain me sha, hope he flops badly at the bridge.
na wa o, una sign Bruno dat one no do u. Na to hate another team player.

Is Hakim really that better than Bruno or na just wickedness, anyway may Bruno flop and roll like a dog

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BlueAngel444: 2:43pm On Feb 14, 2020
olabode89:


Calm down sir!

Yes, Ziyech is a good player but he is not the best thing since slice bread. There is a reason why he plays at International level for Morocco and not for Netherlands a nation known for giving debuts to promising Dutch born players. Mind you he played for the U-19, U-20 and U-21 Dutch teams.
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 2:49pm On Feb 14, 2020
airmark:


Jokes apart, your coach is the main problem of your players not playing to their bests.

I won't be surprised if Lingard plays under Conte and improves. Most players that trained under him confirmed that his training sessions were always demanding. If you are useless under a coach like Conte, it's 99% sure, you will be useless in any big team, under any coach.

I thank God Conte is not your coach now.

What happen to Morata, Bakayoko etc under Conte.

Even Ferguson couldnt help some players ......................If u are not determined to improve, even God cant improve you

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by thorrvik55(m): 3:19pm On Feb 14, 2020
BlueAngel444:
na wa o, una sign Bruno dat one no do u. Na to hate another team player.

Is Hakim really that better than Bruno or na just wickedness, anyway may Bruno flop and roll like a dog

Amen
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 3:53pm On Feb 14, 2020
Make we relax on this Ziyech deal.

Yes. Chelsea have done well getting another good player for cheap. But we all know this our useless club doesn't do bargain deals. They wouldn't even know what bargain means if it slaps them in the face coz if the player's starting price isn't 50m at least, dem no go ever look that side.

Besides, i think their main target has always been Sancho. So let's see what they'll do in the summer. Ideally they should start now in trying to secure his signing. But u can expect the idiōts to wait till it's summer so that the transfer can drag on for the whole 2 months of the transfer window.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:54pm On Feb 14, 2020
Van De Beek will prolly cost around the same amount but no, we're more interested in Grealish.

Grealish/Maddison will mean Bruno is shunted outwide or played further back from the AMF position and trust me, the British press will ensure Bruno is made uncomfortable just so their own can play. The only reason Martial is not getting the stick is because of Rashford's performance. If Martial was having the season Rashford has had thus far, they'd be quick to say Rashford will score same number of goals if he was the CF.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 4:39pm On Feb 14, 2020
airmark:


Jokes apart, your coach is the main problem of your players not playing to their bests.

I won't be surprised if Lingard plays under Conte and improves. Most players that trained under him confirmed that his training sessions were always demanding. If you are useless under a coach like Conte, it's 99% sure, you will be useless in any big team, under any coach.

I thank God Conte is not your coach now.

Coach is part of the problem but it’s not the main problem.

This set of players have only exceeded 70 points once in the last 5 years- Mourinho’s “miracle” season.

The administration then made things worse with their amateur recruitment style. And the medical department is suspect too.

But no. Blame the coach. There’s little Conte can do here. How was his last season at Chelsea sef?

Make we hear word abeg.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristineC: 5:07pm On Feb 14, 2020
engrelvis:
LVG n mourinho v already lost their magic before dey came to man UTD.At their peak dey will never come to man UTD. LVG style of play was constant back pass within our half.He called it den possessive football. Nonsense.At his peak can mourinho ever come to spurs? Dey r wash up n living in past Glory. Get a good coach n everything will fall into place.
will you say Pep is washed up when he signs with Man Utd and has to rely on Pereira and Lingard in midfield with Martial as CF every week?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 5:21pm On Feb 14, 2020
VIDIC best season 2008/2009 VS Van dirk best season 2018/2019

Ferdinard best season 2007/2008 VS Van dirk best season 2018/2019

...............HMMMMMMMMMM grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

Vidic is not Van dirk mate...... Vidic played 4 games less also had 2 red cards...........Van dirk played all 38 games

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristineC: 5:22pm On Feb 14, 2020
9jamyHome:
Lol, that's funny. I strongly disagree with the bolded. Well, that shows how bad the managerial system is. The managerial system entails all areas of the football management. I"m pretty very sure that someone like Martial wouldn't be collecting any close to that amount if playing in a better system and he still be offering more. These guys are talented but just need a good system to operate. The likes Periera, James, Martial and few others would be Ronaldos and Messis of the next decades if allowed to operate in a system that works.
swap Anthony Martial for Raul Jimenez as CF in the last encounter with Wolves and United wins the game 2-0 at least.
when United needed a goal badly in the match, on came Lingard and Dalot. I'm not saying Dalot is a bad player but you get my point on quality options.
while I'm a big Martial fan, I just don't see the effort on the pitch and I don't blame him. he's somehow sulked his way to a big yearly salary so life's great; and frankly he should just gerrat. the only time you see him smiling is in training on camera, that guy should be a mail delivery man in some barrack.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 5:24pm On Feb 14, 2020
Van dirk VS Maguire

Maguire is trying grin grin grin grin

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 5:51pm On Feb 14, 2020
ChristineC:
will you say Pep is washed up when he signs with Man Utd and has to rely on Pereira and Lingard in midfield with Martial as CF every week?
l dnt want to b drawn into d argument of whether a coach is wash up or nt.My point is basically dis-No matter world class players we buy ole cannot bring out d best in dem because he is nt technically sound enough. I rest my case.time shall prove me wrong or right

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 5:56pm On Feb 14, 2020
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 5:59pm On Feb 14, 2020
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God punish Over hyping

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 6:02pm On Feb 14, 2020
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 6:33pm On Feb 14, 2020
Expert17:
grin grin grin
which site be this abeg?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 6:37pm On Feb 14, 2020
ILLICITblood:
which site be this abeg?

Official Premier League site ......


Where you can expose those hiding Truth
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 6:43pm On Feb 14, 2020
Expert17:


Official Premier League site ......


Where you can expose those hiding Truth

Shebi dem no allow us rest on top the guy - Van Dirk. Go to Chelsea thread and post the stats, they will start coming up with some silly stories. Van Dirk no reach abeg!

I have some reservations though, one needs to assume that Van Dirk and the rest played almost the same number of games in those seasons.

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