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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 6:46pm On Feb 14, 2020
nitrogen:


Shebi dem no allow us rest on top the guy - Van Dirk. Go to Chelsea thread and post the stats, they will start coming up with some silly stories. Van Dirk no reach abeg!

I DNT have strength to argue,... If not I for post am for their thread....

Van dirk played all the 38 games without red card...... Vidic played 34 games with 2 red cards.... The rest also didn't play all the 38 games
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 7:03pm On Feb 14, 2020
Expert17:


I DNT have strength to argue,... If not I for post am for their thread....

Van dirk played all the 38 games without red card...... Vidic played 34 games with 2 red cards.... The rest also didn't play all the 38 games

Haha, I don't rate Van Dirk. Of course he is very good, but he is not the best right now, and he is not close to the likes of Terry, Vidic, Ferdinand, Kompany etc.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 7:10pm On Feb 14, 2020
nitrogen:


Haha, I don't rate Van Dirk. Of course he is very good, but he is not the best right now, and he is not close to the likes of Terry, Vidic, Ferdinand, Kompany etc.

When I was saying that it's only Trent-aleexander Arnold dat would enter Man utd 2007/2008 starting 11.. I know wat I was saying

EPL is now all about over hyping ... Some are saying dat Salah is better than Giggs grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BlueAngel444: 7:12pm On Feb 14, 2020
Expert17:
grin grin grin
Ah no na, they should have added Not being dribbled past
Then we will know cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by timay(m): 7:24pm On Feb 14, 2020
nitrogen:


Haha, I don't rate Van Dirk. Of course he is very good, but he is not the best right now, and he is not close to the likes of Terry, Vidic, Ferdinand, Kompany etc.

To think that Van Dijk will just be an average defender in the era of Terry , Vidic and the likes just shows how the standard of today's defenders have fallen. Despite how good the likes of Rio, Vidic, Terry et al were, they were not even close to Winning Balloon dor, yet somehow some deluded Liverpool fans thinks van Dirk deserves it. How shocking grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 7:26pm On Feb 14, 2020
BlueAngel444:


Ah no na, they should have added
Not being dribbled past

Then we will know cheesy

He always stay behind while his Defensive partner mark the attacker first,.. b4 u will see him.......
That's why his tackles and interception are very low but high clearance .,. grin cheesy grin grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ibime(m): 7:36pm On Feb 14, 2020
Expert17:


He always stay behind while his Defensive partner mark the attacker first,.. b4 u will see him.......
That's why his tackles and interception are very low but high clearance .,. grin cheesy grin grin

He is simply playing the sweeper role. Nothing wrong with it. I also played this way when I played defence.

In every defence, you have a field nigga and a house nigga. The field nigga do the dirty work while the house nigga sweep up.

Don't let that confuse you into thinking the field nigga is the better defender. The house nigga is the one actually measuring distances, setting offside traps and controlling the field nigga position on the pitch. House nigga will only engage with the striker physically as a last resort, and 9 times out of 10 will pick the loose ball like candy after the field nigga duel with the striker finish.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by izzou(m): 7:38pm On Feb 14, 2020
Expert17:


I DNT have strength to argue,... If not I for post am for their thread....

Van dirk played all the 38 games without red card...... Vidic played 34 games with 2 red cards.... The rest also didn't play all the 38 games

As much as a lot of football fans know that Dijk is overrated, you comparison is abstract and makes little sense

You have to find a common ground to compare both entities.

Maybe I should compare Raul's Gonzalez 2003 season to Aguero's 2019. How will it make sense? One's carrier has ended, meaning we have seen the best of him. The other is still actively serving. Haba

Wait for Dijk to end his career and compare, or use a current player this season to compare the stats. Even the Smelling own wey you post na old season. Put Smalling current season stats so e go make sense
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 7:39pm On Feb 14, 2020
BREAKING: Manchester City have been banned from European competitions in 2020/21 and 2021/22 by UEFA.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 7:44pm On Feb 14, 2020
Oasis007:
BREAKING: Manchester City have been banned from European competitions in 2020/21 and 2021/22 by UEFA.

I smell a Pep sabbatical coming.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 7:46pm On Feb 14, 2020
Ibime:


He is simply playing the sweeper role. Nothing wrong with it. I also played this way when I played defence.

In every defence, you have a field nigga and a house nigga. The field nigga do the dirty work while the house nigga sweep up.

Don't let that confuse you into thinking the field nigga is the better defender. The house nigga is the one actually measuring distances, setting offside traps and controlling the field nigga position on the pitch. House nigga will only engage with the striker physically as a last resort, and 9 times out of 10 will pick the loose ball like candy after the field nigga duel with the striker finish.

I am also a Goal keeper.... So I know much abt defending also......
Ur point is 100% right....

Ferdinand and Van Dirk plays the same role...(NO 6).... And Ferdinand is better in dat position....... NO 6 are mainly good on the ball and can use Left leg sometimes

Vidic, Kompany and Terry are in charge of dirty works ...(NO 5)..... They are the main Men in defense....

Believe it or not, No 5 is the Engine room of the back 4
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by timay(m): 7:51pm On Feb 14, 2020
Oasis007:
BREAKING: Manchester City have been banned from European competitions in 2020/21 and 2021/22 by UEFA.

Seems Pep's sabbatical will be coming earlier than expected grin grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 7:53pm On Feb 14, 2020
izzou:


As much as a lot of football fans know that Dijk is overrated, you comparison is abstract and makes little sense

You have to find a common ground to compare both entities.

Maybe I should compare Raul's Gonzalez 2003 season to Aguero's 2019. How will it make sense? One's carrier has ended, meaning we have seen the best of him. The other is still actively serving. Haba

Wait for Dijk to end his career and compare, or use a current player this season to compare the stats. Even the Smelling own wey you post na old season. Put Smalling current season stats so e go make sense

I use their Best seasons to compare them,..... I didnt use Van Dirk Southampton and Celtic statistics........
he contested for world best with this same Statistics, so u can't even bring dis up,


I have told you, Van Dirk pattern,..... He stays behind while his defensive partner mark, bfor u will see him,.... Dats why is tackles and interception added together is not up to half of his Clearance...

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 8:01pm On Feb 14, 2020
Oasis007:
BREAKING: Manchester City have been banned from European competitions in 2020/21 and 2021/22 by UEFA.
y?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by izzou(m): 8:05pm On Feb 14, 2020
Expert17:


I use their Best seasons to compare them,..... I didnt use Van Dirk Southampton and Celtic statistics........
he contested for world best with this same Statistics, so u can't even bring dis up,


I have told you, Van Dirk pattern,..... He stays behind while his defensive partner mark, bfor u will see him,.... Dats why is tackles and interception added together is not up to half of his Clearance...

How do you know this will be Van Dijk's best season? Has he finished playing?

I'm not interested in Dijk's pattern. I'm not concerned. But make your point educative and purposeful by comparing Van Dijk's current season with Smalling's current season or any other defender.

I could as well dig up a stat from the 90's to compare with Dijk, and it won't make sense.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 8:12pm On Feb 14, 2020
izzou:


How do you know this will be Van Dijk's best season? Has he finished playing?

I'm not interested in Dijk's pattern. I'm not concerned. But make your point educative and purposeful by comparing Van Dijk's current season with Smalling's current season or any other defender.

I could as well dig up a stat from the 90's to compare with Dijk, and it won't make sense.

He won UEFA player of the year in 2018/2019 season, as of today, that's his best, so he is right to pick that. Meanwhile, I really don't see him beat that 2018/2019 performance till he retires.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 8:12pm On Feb 14, 2020
So if we finish 5th we should still make UCL. Plus we stand a good chance of winning Iropa.

No excuses for Ole now. If we're not playing UCL next season, he should be shot!!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Sinbo(m): 8:16pm On Feb 14, 2020
So even if we Finish 5th we will still qualify for UEFA Champions League. Another man loss na another man gain.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 8:18pm On Feb 14, 2020
Expert17:


I use their Best seasons to compare them,..... I didnt use Van Dirk Southampton and Celtic statistics........
he contested for world best with this same Statistics, so u can't even bring dis up,


I have told you, Van Dirk pattern,..... He stays behind while his defensive partner mark, bfor u will see him,.... Dats why is tackles and interception added together is not up to half of his Clearance...

Shebi I told you. We will start hearing stories. Van Dirk wey be say Na only to dey point fingers he sabi.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by izzou(m): 8:19pm On Feb 14, 2020
nitrogen:


He won UEFA player of the year in 2018/2019 season, as of today, that's his best, so he is right to pick that. Meanwhile, I really don't see him beat that 2018/2019 performance till he retires.

Maybe you're the spokesperson for Heaven, i don't know. But till then, let's compare his stats with defenders that are playing currently.

There are over 200 defenders actively playing across Europe. Why must it be a 2007/2008 stat that you need to prove how overrated he is?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 8:27pm On Feb 14, 2020
izzou:


Maybe you're the spokesperson for Heaven, i don't know. But till then, let's compare his stats with defenders that are playing currently.

There are over 200 defenders actively playing across Europe. Why must it be a 2007/2008 stat that you need to prove how overrated he is?

Maybe you don't understand the discussion, don't compare Van Dijk to the likes of Terry, Fagbo and Vidic, even Kompany, they are not mates at all. He never reach that level. For example, see the picture below.

If you want us to compare him with current defenders, of course, he can make top 3, but the main thing is, you need to agree that that boy is not one of the best ever in the EPL, not yet.

And yes, we will be here to have this conversation again in a couple of years from now.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ravioli(m): 8:29pm On Feb 14, 2020
grin

City have been banned from the CL more times than they have won it.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ravioli(m): 8:31pm On Feb 14, 2020
Guardiola: "Last year was an extraordinary one for us but people say, 'But you didn't win the Champions League’.

"That is why I will be judged, if we don't win it in my final period here, that I will be a failure here. I know that."
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ravioli(m): 8:32pm On Feb 14, 2020
grin

Guardiola: “I want to win the Champions League.

“If we don’t beat Real Madrid, then the chairman will come, or the sporting director, and say ‘It’s not good enough, we want the Champions League, I’m going to sack you’."
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by izzou(m): 8:35pm On Feb 14, 2020
nitrogen:


Maybe you don't understand the discussion, don't compare Van Dijk to the likes of Terry, Fagbo and Vidic, even Kompany, they are not mates at all. He never reach that level. For example, see the picture below.

If you want us to compare him with current defenders, of course, he can make top 3, but the main thing is, you need to agree that that boy is not one of the best ever in the EPL, not yet.

And yes, we will be here to have this conversation again in a couple of years from now.

So you agree that he's one of the best in his time. Nowhere did anyone compare him to Terry. You can show me that if you see

One nauseating attitude on football threads is talking negatively about players. I don't see anything spectacular with his defending, but i won't take away the fact that he's currently one of the best defenders we have in the world currently.

All these comparing him with Terry, Vidic and Uruguay 40's set doesn't make any sense. Presently, he's one of the best.

You dont like him? I don't too. But he is what he is today. Accept that fact and/or make the argument engaging by comparing his stat with those who are competing with him
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ravioli(m): 8:36pm On Feb 14, 2020
grin

MUFC to finish 5th and get the fourth Champions League spot as MCFC banned. MUFC fluke it, win it and loan MCFC trophy for two days by way of thanks - and so blues can see what the European Cup looks like.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 8:40pm On Feb 14, 2020
Ravioli:
grin

MUFC to finish 5th and get the fourth Champions League spot as MCFC banned. MUFC fluke it, win it and loan MCFC trophy for two days by way of thanks - and so blues can see what the European Cup looks like.

Better pray that OGS performs, we are currently 8th on the table, and if we dont win against Chelsea, no champions league football niyen o. Of course, I am assuming that a team like Inter or even Sevilla will beat us in the Europa League, so, no back door to the champions league for us.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by adebayo201: 8:47pm On Feb 14, 2020
Don't be pessimistic all the time! Even if for once, think good for yourself and others.

Uhn!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 8:52pm On Feb 14, 2020
adebayo201:
Don't be pessimistic all the time! Even if for once, think good for yourself and others.

Uhn!

I am being realistic niii, dont get your hopes up brother.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by adebayo201: 8:56pm On Feb 14, 2020
nitrogen:


I am being realistic niii, dont get your hopes up brother.
My hope is built on nothing less...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by izzou(m): 8:57pm On Feb 14, 2020
adebayo201:

My hope is built on nothing less...

Than whose blood and righteousness, please? grin grin grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ravioli(m): 9:00pm On Feb 14, 2020
nitrogen:


Better pray that OGS performs, we are currently 8th on the table, and if we dont win against Chelsea, no champions league football niyen o. Of course, I am assuming that a team like Inter or even Sevilla will beat us in the Europa League, so, no back door to the champions league for us.

ok

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