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Re: 'Ghost' Human Ancestor Discovered In West Africa. Linked To Yoruba, Esan People by themonk(m): 12:16pm On Feb 16, 2020
2metrelaurie:


Once there click on the subtopic neanderthal
I read the link. I am asking you to bring out ANY sentence at all that said Europeans inherited their skin color from Neanderthals in this link you sent.
Re: 'Ghost' Human Ancestor Discovered In West Africa. Linked To Yoruba, Esan People by 2metrelaurie(m): 12:23pm On Feb 16, 2020
themonk:

I read the link. I am asking you to bring out ANY sentence at all that said Europeans inherited their skin color from Neanderthals in this link you sent.

Baaba , which school you go ?

Dem no try for you at all
Re: 'Ghost' Human Ancestor Discovered In West Africa. Linked To Yoruba, Esan People by 2metrelaurie(m): 12:27pm On Feb 16, 2020
themonk:

I read the link. I am asking you to bring out ANY sentence at all that said Europeans inherited their skin color from Neanderthals in this link you sent.

Are always this pathetic or are you just making special efforts today

Re: 'Ghost' Human Ancestor Discovered In West Africa. Linked To Yoruba, Esan People by Ameboperoo(m): 12:29pm On Feb 16, 2020
NiCurious:


Nono, the father gives either an X or a Y chromosome: X to his daughters, Y to his sons. Not all genes are sex-linked, so the Yoruba women's genetic input would not necessarily fade out. Genes can stick around in a family line for a long, long time.

1Sharon:


Someone missed biology in school grin
You don't get it. If you take for example 50 red beads and mix it with 50 blue in a bag. Then select 50 randomly from it and add another50 blue, select 50 from it again and add 50 blue, after many times, you will discover that only blue will be left.
Now to our discussion, a gene can be inherited from the father or mother with a 50/50 probability. The same way a red or blue bead could be picked.
But an x chromosome can only be from the father, who in turn got it from his father and so on. But a y chromosome can be from either of the parents.
Re: 'Ghost' Human Ancestor Discovered In West Africa. Linked To Yoruba, Esan People by themonk(m): 1:25pm On Feb 16, 2020
2metrelaurie:


Are always this pathetic or are you just making special efforts today
You are right.
Re: 'Ghost' Human Ancestor Discovered In West Africa. Linked To Yoruba, Esan People by Nobody: 2:43pm On Feb 16, 2020
Atigba:


Oba of Benin and some few families in Benin city migrated from Ife, if you say otherwise here. You either ignorant or stupiid.

No one forged any story, it is well documented by our notable historian Egharevba. You don't even need history to know that, every culture you practice in Benin and every idols are from Ife.

There is Igodomigodo, ruled by Ogisos.


Can you show me one single proof of your claims ? Or is it all about taking egherevba's words as gospel truth ?
For your information, Benin Kingdom was polytheistic and Gods in Benin Kingdom came from all quarters of the empire just like it was in Rome. However most Edo worshipped only the ancestors of the Oba of Benin. There are even precolonial pictures of the Oba's shrine and you see only idols of the ancestors in them, the British even called them "ancestral shrines". If you want to claim there was any such thing as Igodomigodo then prove it. If you want to claim anybody migrated from ife then prove it. It is not about throwing insults but rather about providing proof for what you claim, unfortunately for you, the word of your god egherevba is not enough to prove your claims.
Re: 'Ghost' Human Ancestor Discovered In West Africa. Linked To Yoruba, Esan People by Nobody: 2:45pm On Feb 16, 2020
JuanDeDios:

I have not said they're not the same people. But you don't have the whole story - that's what I sought to clear up. Unfortunately, you're too stuck in what you think you know to even consider any facts.
I think you and the other guy need to see psychiatrists. It feels like you guys don't really understand how reasoning works.
Re: 'Ghost' Human Ancestor Discovered In West Africa. Linked To Yoruba, Esan People by Nobody: 2:49pm On Feb 16, 2020
Atigba:


Esan and bini are not the same people, the binis are Yorubas from Ife for the most part.
You need to go and see a psychiatrist. Arguing against reality like you do is a sign of madness.
Nobody migrated from ife.
Re: 'Ghost' Human Ancestor Discovered In West Africa. Linked To Yoruba, Esan People by Nobody: 2:50pm On Feb 16, 2020
Precolonial maps of Benin empire:

These precolonial maps contradict your unsubstantiated and hate filled claim:

Some of the maps:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b77595185.r=Benin?rk=21459;2

http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b7759521n.r=Benin?rk=21459;2

An other map of Benin made in the 17th century once again:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b530530714.r=Benin?rk=214593;2

An other map of Benin from the 17th century:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8595583b.r=Benin?rk=193134;0

This one date to the 19th century:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b846939
Re: 'Ghost' Human Ancestor Discovered In West Africa. Linked To Yoruba, Esan People by Nobody: 2:54pm On Feb 16, 2020
Atigba:


A significant percentage of Benin are Yorubas from Ife.

You are one of them.
and your proof would be ?
Re: 'Ghost' Human Ancestor Discovered In West Africa. Linked To Yoruba, Esan People by Nobody: 2:57pm On Feb 16, 2020
Sarah20A:
am from Benin and by God grace am planning a dna ancestral test in the nearest future.i would like to know the real truth between the yorubas and the Benins,since my father's family claimed to be one of the chiefs that escorted the prince to ile ife and escorted his son back to Benin if that story was true they would have definitely married yoruba women and brought them to Benin and I would like to uncover the truth through DNA test because in my father's village they speak like the yorubas and the Benins mixed together but they are recognised as binis
Bro, there is no historical link between Benin empire and ife village (unless ife was once a province of Benin) all the issues story is totally made up, the Edo side and the Yoruba side. Benin empire has records which date back to 600 years ago, no mention of ife and no mention of yoruba, just Benin empire. The word Yoruba came to existence not so long ago. I think in the late 18th century. You won't get any truth by asking questions to the random delusional fool on nairaland. Some of these people on nairaland are mentally ill. So just go to school, travel to Europe and visit it's museums, they have all our actual records. Also learn how to properly reason, that is lacking among many Nigerians. This atigba of a person obviously has issues. And you are expecting him to tell you who you are ? This makes me wonder who is more out of touch among both of you.
Re: 'Ghost' Human Ancestor Discovered In West Africa. Linked To Yoruba, Esan People by Nobody: 3:08pm On Feb 16, 2020
Some people like to argue and argue and argue without bringing out any facts, just insults to those who do not agree. Well just prove your points and move on, this is not theology. This is the real world. A claim must be preceded or followed by a proof !
Re: 'Ghost' Human Ancestor Discovered In West Africa. Linked To Yoruba, Esan People by Nobody: 3:30pm On Feb 16, 2020
Ameboperoo:



You don't get it. If you take for example 50 red beads and mix it with 50 blue in a bag. Then select 50 randomly from it and add another50 blue, select 50 from it again and add 50 blue, after many times, you will discover that only blue will be left.
Now to our discussion, a gene can be inherited from the father or mother with a 50/50 probability. The same way a red or blue bead could be picked.
But an x chromosome can only be from the father, who in turn got it from his father and so on. But a y chromosome can be from either of the parents.
can't you guys talk some sense into the fools on this forum ?
Re: 'Ghost' Human Ancestor Discovered In West Africa. Linked To Yoruba, Esan People by Atigba: 3:32pm On Feb 16, 2020
ghostwon:
Bro, there is no historical link between Benin empire and ife village (unless ife was once a province of Benin) all the issues story is totally made up, the Edo side and the Yoruba side. Benin empire has records which date back to 600 years ago, no mention of ife and no mention of yoruba, just Benin empire. The word Yoruba came to existence not so long ago. I think in the late 18th century. You won't get any truth by asking questions to the random delusional fool on nairaland. Some of these people on nairaland are mentally ill. So just go to school, travel to Europe and visit it's museums, they have all our actual records. Also learn how to properly reason, that is lacking among many Nigerians. This atigba of a person is obviously suffering from mental illness. And you are expecting him to tell you who you are ? This makes me wonder who is crazier among both of you.

The binis are Yoruba migrant from Ife to Igodomigodo around 12 century AD.

You opened your account on nairaland today grin

I guess you are one of those Yorubas living in Benin who are strongly to create new identity for themselves. It won't work, is too late.

You are from Ille Ife

Uhe nonbioba

Your king are from Ife and you are probably a descendant of those who migrated with Orominyan from Ife then.

Go take take your medication
Re: 'Ghost' Human Ancestor Discovered In West Africa. Linked To Yoruba, Esan People by Atigba: 3:34pm On Feb 16, 2020
ghostwon:
and your proof would be ?

You created your account this morning
Re: 'Ghost' Human Ancestor Discovered In West Africa. Linked To Yoruba, Esan People by Atigba: 3:36pm On Feb 16, 2020
pacespot:
Definitely there must have been something gone wrong with black population to have degenerated to this level. These ghost species could have mixed up with some black ancestors and slowed down the advancement of their genes to transform into full humans.
grin
Re: 'Ghost' Human Ancestor Discovered In West Africa. Linked To Yoruba, Esan People by Nobody: 3:37pm On Feb 16, 2020
Atigba:


The binis are Yoruba migrant from Ife to Igodomigodo around 12 century AD.

You opened your account on nairaland today grin

I guess you are one of those Yorubas living in Benin who are strongly to create new identity for themselves. It won't work, is too late.

You are from Ille Ife

Uhe nonbioba

Your king are from Ife and you are probably a descendant of those who migrated with Orominyan from Ife then.

Go take take your medication

You still haven't proven your claim, rather you are just repeating it.
Re: 'Ghost' Human Ancestor Discovered In West Africa. Linked To Yoruba, Esan People by Nobody: 3:52pm On Feb 16, 2020
Re: 'Ghost' Human Ancestor Discovered In West Africa. Linked To Yoruba, Esan People by Nobody: 3:53pm On Feb 16, 2020
Re: 'Ghost' Human Ancestor Discovered In West Africa. Linked To Yoruba, Esan People by Nobody: 4:06pm On Feb 16, 2020
We, the most recognized people in West Africa, the oldest known people in West Africa (us and Mali). Now some people with a fabricated story want to claim that we are trying to create a new identity for ourselves ? I guess the records made by the Portuguese visitors in 1485 are part of our new identity ? Benin empire is the oldest known precolonial country in West Africa (us and Mali). This is just like a new born baby "ife" telling an adult "Benin": I am your father, and you are trying to get yourself a new identity by denying me. Delusion of the greatest order. Also, atigba is not Edo, he is obviously a Yoruba claiming to be Edo in order to smoothen his pro-yoruba anti-Edo propaganda.

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Re: 'Ghost' Human Ancestor Discovered In West Africa. Linked To Yoruba, Esan People by james1(m): 4:09pm On Feb 16, 2020
dazzlingd:
Kudos to nairaland....pushing more and more of this topics to fp......an average african is just too illiterate, know little or nothing about themselves and the world they live in....

U will soon see them flood this thread opening their black jaws screaming how is this possible...how did oyinbo people know this?? Not knowing the world has gone light years ahead of them...backward unrepentant ignorant people

You are full of shit!
Re: 'Ghost' Human Ancestor Discovered In West Africa. Linked To Yoruba, Esan People by james1(m): 4:17pm On Feb 16, 2020
jamesbawa:


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/science-environment-51508616

So some of us have this ancient ghost population genes?
That's crazy.

Re: 'Ghost' Human Ancestor Discovered In West Africa. Linked To Yoruba, Esan People by Atigba: 4:53pm On Feb 16, 2020
ghostwon:
We, the most recognized people in West Africa, the oldest known people in West Africa (us and Mali). Now some people with a fabricated story want to claim that we are trying to create a new identity for ourselves ? I guess the records made by the Portuguese visitors in 1485 are part of our new identity ? Benin empire is the oldest known precolonial country in West Africa (us and Mali). This is just like a new born baby "ife" telling an adult "Benin": I am your father, and you are trying to get yourself a new identity by denying me. Delusion of the greatest order. Also, atigba is not Edo, he is obviously a Yoruba claiming to be Edo in order to smoothen his pro-yoruba anti-Edo propaganda.

You are a self hated Yoruba trying to create a new identity for yourself.

Benin is Ile Ibinu

Your ancestors migrated from Ife in 12 century
Re: 'Ghost' Human Ancestor Discovered In West Africa. Linked To Yoruba, Esan People by Nobody: 5:10pm On Feb 16, 2020
Atigba:


You are a self hated Yoruba trying to create a new identity for yourself.

Benin is Ile Ibinu

Your ancestors migrated from Ife in 12 century
You are a deluded propagandist. You Yoruba think you can have Edo state and Lagos among others. Your propaganda has been going on for more than 70 years and the only result is more animosity between us and also distrust. Keep it going, let Nigeria fade away and watch the bloody war which awaits your chicken hearted people.
Re: 'Ghost' Human Ancestor Discovered In West Africa. Linked To Yoruba, Esan People by Atigba: 5:46pm On Feb 16, 2020
ghostwon:

You are a deluded propagandist. You Yoruba think you can have Edo state and Lagos among others. Your propaganda has been going on for more than 70 years and the only result is more animosity between us and also distrust. Keep it going, let Nigeria fade away and watch the bloody war which awaits your chicken hearted people.

How can you fight your father

Your Oba is a yoruba citizen

You serve Ogun, Oromila, Shango, Olokun, Osa

These are all Yoruba men which you serve as your God. A son cannot fight his father.

Osa a yoruba man is your God

You are a self hated yoruba trying to create a new identity for yourself. The good news is that, is too late.

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Re: 'Ghost' Human Ancestor Discovered In West Africa. Linked To Yoruba, Esan People by Atigba: 5:55pm On Feb 16, 2020
ghostwon:

You are a deluded propagandist. You Yoruba think you can have Edo state and Lagos among others. Your propaganda has been going on for more than 70 years and the only result is more animosity between us and also distrust. Keep it going, let Nigeria fade away and watch the bloody war which awaits your chicken hearted people.

A yoruba man is your God

Our forefathers already pen our history down to cant change anything.

Jacob U. Egharevba wrote our history

Re: 'Ghost' Human Ancestor Discovered In West Africa. Linked To Yoruba, Esan People by Nobody: 6:05pm On Feb 16, 2020
Atigba:


A yoruba man is your God

Our forefathers already pen our history down to cant change anything.

Jacob U. Egharevba wrote our history

What an amazing superman this your egherevba who was being mentored by Yoruba in a Yoruba university and wanted them to grant him a PhD. Well I guess they did grant him a PhD in exchange for repeating their claims.

It seems you still don't understand that egherevba was just a human being with a finite life like everybody, he didn't witness the stories he wrote down. He only repeated the words of his mentors, the Yoruba.
Re: 'Ghost' Human Ancestor Discovered In West Africa. Linked To Yoruba, Esan People by Nobody: 6:06pm On Feb 16, 2020
Atigba:



You serve Shango

These are all Yoruba men which you serve as your God. A son cannot fight his father.

you Yoruba are clearly delusional. Basically you are just going to post the names of your gods and claim we serve them ? Wtf ?
Re: 'Ghost' Human Ancestor Discovered In West Africa. Linked To Yoruba, Esan People by Nobody: 6:10pm On Feb 16, 2020
Atigba:


You serve Osa

These are all Yoruba men which you serve as your God. A son cannot fight his father.

Osa a yoruba man is your God


We call God almighty Osalobua, not Osa. And it is the Christian God whom we call Osalobua. Yea we actually had churches before colonisation one of them is still standing. It is called Holy Aruosa.

I guess you have proven that you can quote your god egherevba. Congrats, you are yet to prove your claims, but now we know you can take pictures of s book filled with lies. Bravo

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