guru in the house

we Americans won't take this. You shall be hearing from our lawyer soon.

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Proper maintenance is the key here, irrespective of the brand of engine.

Well, I have used three Japanese all Hondas, four Germans (2 Volkswagen brand and 2 M.Benz) I had better engine durability and doggedness with the Germans.

jaybabs1:
Well, I have used three Japanese all Hondas, four Germans (2 Volkswagen brand and 2 M.Benz) I had better engine durability and doggedness with the Germans.

Try Toyota

jaybabs1:
Well, I have used three Japanese all Hondas, four Germans (2 Volkswagen brand and 2 M.Benz) I had better engine durability and doggedness with the Germans.

I thought as much,

uboma:
Proper maintenance is the key here, irrespective of the brand of engine.

No! some makes are bad

dancok:
No! some makes are bad

Like........?

Depends on the engines, imo.

Nissan's VQ engines are solid, same as Toyota's 2GR and Honda's J35.

These are the main V6 engines made by the big Japanese three and, imo, you'd have to be pretty careless to kill them under 200k miles.

Mercedes M113 and M113 engines are solid. The M272 and M273 are good too, but not quite as good as M112 and M113. M156 had head bolt issues, until 2011. No idea about the other V8's.

BMW engines are, imo, quite frail, especially the forced induction ones. The N54 and N55 are iffy.

Audi seems to have plenty of issues with timing chains. On the 3.2L V6 and 4.2L V8. The 2.0T engines were poor.

Imo, Japs make the more durable engines. But maintenance culture is a more important factor.

uboma:
Proper maintenance is the key here, irrespective of the brand of engine.

Distinguished, I agree with you.

German engineering.....I still see 1978 Benz 230 flat boots around and I still see 1956 Vboots

But I can't even see 1990 Toyota whatever around


It's German engineering

jaybabs1:
Well, I have used three Japanese all Hondas, four Germans (2 Volkswagen brand and 2 M.Benz) I had better engine durability and doggedness with the Germans.

They don't argue that one.. I started with Japanese car ( Nissan) that is the worst car one can ever drive another Mitsubishi ! Those engines are terrible ! Very weak and smokes

But since I switched to Benz! There has been rest of mind !

I talk from my own personal experience having driven both Japanese and now driving a Benz

AmuDimpka:


They don't argue that one.. I started with Japanese car ( Nissan) that is the worst car one can ever drive another Mitsubishi ! Those engines are terrible ! Very weak and smokes

But since I switched to Benz! There has been rest of mind !

I talk from my own personal experience having driven both Japanese and now driving a Benz

this is most definitely the worst kind of person to give car related advice, and to take car related advice from

lots of anecdotes, very little substance

for whomever is interested in actual factual information on the german vs Japanese build issue the OP raised:


https://jalopnik.com/how-bmw-and-toyota-overcame-a-culture-clash-to-design-t-1827831415

while you're at it, google NUMMI and how the american automakers were so enthralled by Toyota that they setup entire plants just to take advantage of their efficiency and reliability

Fentanyl:


this is most definitely the worst kind of person to give car related advice, and to take car related advice from

lots of anecdotes, very little substance

I said personal experience....oga expert

Mr. Substance give your own and stop attacking folks ...it's Monday morning

Apart from personal experience...please hear from Japanese themselves

https://taiken.co/single/japanese-vs-german-cars/


But wait a minute, who compares German engineering with Japanese ! Yes Japanese they have tried in technology but Germans are known for great engineering feats

Let's be honest ...I hate sentiments

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AmuDimpka:
Apart from personal experience...please hear from Japanese themselves

https://taiken.co/single/japanese-vs-german-cars/


But wait a minute, who compares German engineering with Japanese ! Yes Japanese they have tried in technology but Germans are known for great engineering feats

Let's be honest ...I hate sentiments

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loool

this is the conclusion from the exact article you posted

thank you for making my point for me lol

lol this is very funny though
this is the football equivalent of an own goal
shooting yourself in the foot

AmuDimpka:
German engineering.....I still see 1978 Benz 230 flat boots around and I still see 1956 Vboots

But I can't even see 1990 Toyota whatever around


It's German engineering

you are very myopic and you need to go out more often.

The oldest Engine you would see in Nigeria is American Engines by Ford or those made by UK, followed by Nissan/Datsun engines. Don't always take Lagos as the basis of everything.

There are 18xx Engines and vehicles still on the road that weren't made by Germans or Japanese.

But Japanese still have older Engines compared to Germans in Nigeria. if you need evidence, I will point you to location, make, model as you deem necessary

nurey:


you are very myopic and you need to go out more often.

The oldest Engine you would see in Nigeria is American Engines by Ford or those made by UK, followed by Nissan/Datsun engines. Don't always take Lagos as the basis of everything.

There are 18xx Engines and vehicles still on the road that weren't made by Germans or Japanese.

But Japanese still have older Engines compared to Germans in Nigeria. if you need evidence, I will point you to location, make, model as you deem necessary

I keep seeing people driving 1979 model of flatboot and that car is over 40yrs

Bros those cars you mentioned aren't 1979 cars ....trust me

I talk from experience abi make I no talk again...nawa

It's not arguement! I answered based in experience ...we aren't fighting sir

I am not an engineer or a man thy have designed an engine before but what I know is that I see this car on the roads and it's popular in the East!

Guess what ? This car is 1979 model and it's over 40yrs still on the roads

To me , I haven't seen a japanes car that is 1979 still on the road...please show us...with the current numbers plate

Fentanyl:







loool

this is the conclusion from the exact article you posted

thank you for making my point for me lol

When you say German cars it's generic...Opel is a German car and that car isn't reliable trust me ! That car is shìt!

So it's not a clear case ! Mine is Benz...I still see a 1979 Benz on the road , I haven't seen a japanes of 1979 model...help me by showing me one sir

dicksonadams:

Try Toyota

Honda and Nissan make better engines.

AmuDimpka:


They don't argue that one.. I started with Japanese car ( Nissan) that is the worst car one can ever drive another Mitsubishi ! Those engines are terrible ! Very weak and smokes

But since I switched to Benz! There has been rest of mind !

I talk from my own personal experience having driven both Japanese and now driving a Benz

Nigerians want their engines to power the car and maintain itself at the same time. There’s no Nissan or Mazda engine that is bad, they only had abusive owners.
There’s no perfect engine, maintenance makes the difference.

AmuDimpka:


I keep seeing people driving 1979 model of flatboot and that car is over 40yrs

Bros those cars you mentioned aren't 1979 cars ....trust me

I talk from experience abi make I no talk again...nawa

It's not arguement! I answered based in experience ...we aren't fighting sir

let me give you ones I snapped before, I am unavailable now and made my point in 2019 but I can't remember the thread

1981 Datsun sunny

Toyota Corolla E30 1974

Nissan atlas F22 1970s

nurey:


you are very myopic and you need to go out more often.

The oldest Engine you would see in Nigeria is American Engines by Ford or those made by UK, followed by Nissan/Datsun engines. Don't always take Lagos as the basis of everything.

There are 18xx Engines and vehicles still on the road that weren't made by Germans or Japanese.

But Japanese still have older Engines compared to Germans in Nigeria. if you need evidence, I will point you to location, make, model as you deem necessary

Gbam! Japanese that made cars to last forever especially Toyota, Datsun-Nissan.

AmuDimpka:


When you say German cars it's generic...Opel is a German car and that car isn't reliable trust me ! That car is shìt!

So it's not a clear case ! Mine is Benz...I still see a 1979 Benz on the road , I haven't seen a japanes of 1979 model...help me by showing me one sir

I beg to disagree.

Opel cars are very reliable.

AmuDimpka:
Apart from personal experience...please hear from Japanese themselves

https://taiken.co/single/japanese-vs-german-cars/


But wait a minute, who compares German engineering with Japanese ! Yes Japanese they have tried in technology but Germans are known for great engineering feats

Let's be honest ...I hate sentiments

Mercedes and BMW have some of the worst reliability ratings in the automotive industry.

DukeNija:


Mercedes and BMW have some of the worst reliability ratings in the automotive industry.

I cannot speak for Mercedes Benz but do not look down on BMW.

In my seven years of driving BMW cars, none has failed me on the road. Again, take good care of your car and it will serve you well. Many Nigerians have very poor automobile maintenance culture. These persons ignore warning signs and get stranded on the road afterwards.

AmuDimpka:


They don't argue that one.. I started with Japanese car ( Nissan) that is the worst car one can ever drive another Mitsubishi ! Those engines are terrible ! Very weak and smokes

But since I switched to Benz! There has been rest of mind !

I talk from my own personal experience having driven both Japanese and now driving a Benz

Until you drive a Benz you won't know what you've missed. I went from an almost toks Accord 1996 to a fairly old M.Benz 190 and I said what? What a better performance in the Benz...I stepped up to a C-Class later.

If you check reliability ratings for car brands, you'd find Lexus and Toyota atop the rankings. The Japanese are quite meticulous and their quality control measures is second to none in the industry. Topgear tested a Toyota truck decades back putting it through conditions a vehicle isn't meant to survive and it came out fine. It can be argued Honda even makes better engines than Toyota but on a whole Toyota is more reliable. German vehicles are basically luxury cars, they last alright but they don't come close in terms of reliability and they cost a fortune to maintain with those complicated engineering pieces they have on their vehicles, that is the reason in most western countries German cars are mostly leased because they rarely drive into 200k miles before developing serious issues. but if you need an everyday use car, most go for the Toyotas and Hondas On a whole, German = Fancy, Japanese = Sturdy.