ghostwon:
1895-1900 that is 52560 hours, so yea hours ! Years are also made of hours.

Your ijebu fight was a small rebellion quickly put down by a few British soldiers.

You are completely contradicting yourself when you claim you were never conquered but you surrendered !
What sense does that make ? Are you using a new definition of being conquered which nobody else has ever heard about ?
You guys gave up to the British without a fight like the cowardly cowards you are !
Everybody knows the famous cowardlyness of the Yoruba !
Even in your face saving response/propaganda, you recognize that your ooni of ife and your alafin of Oyo gave up to the British without a fight. Your alafin of Oyo had most of his kingdom conquered by Fulani and he gave up to the British without a fight. Your ooni of ife has never had an army.
Ife was a village with no architecture when the British arrived. The ooni of ife and alafin of Oyo became relevant only thanks to the British who saw them as useful puppets.

Wow this hurt

eby001:

Lol, you didn't mention me on this. So I was right all along. I never want to mention tsetse fly ish, thinking you'll figure it out . It not a weakness to admit you're wrong all along. The name 'esin' is right all along

Pls what is the Yoruba name of zebra?

English name:Zebra

Yoruba name: ketekete abila

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Donaldoni:


They . . .were embroiled in civil war...

Yes, there was war on all fronts, threats from everywhere.

sammyfrosh:

Then I can help you on that. I will find it for you.

I will be glad if you do. Thanks

ghostwon:
1895-1900 that is 52560 hours, so yea hours ! Years are also made of hours.

Your ijebu fight was a small rebellion quickly put down by a few British soldiers.

You are completely contradicting yourself when you claim you were never conquered but you surrendered !
What sense does that make ? Are you using a new definition of being conquered which nobody else has ever heard about ?
You guys gave up to the British without a fight like the cowardly cowards you are !
Everybody knows the famous cowardlyness of the Yoruba !
Even in your face saving response/propaganda, you recognize that your ooni of ife and your alafin of Oyo gave up to the British without a fight. Your alafin of Oyo had most of his kingdom conquered by Fulani and he gave up to the British without a fight. Your ooni of ife has never had an army.
Ife was a village with no architecture when the British arrived. The ooni of ife and alafin of Oyo became relevant only thanks to the British who saw them as useful puppets.

@bolded says a lot. I don't debate with dullllards...

For emphasis, Benin fell to the British in 6 days precisely on the February 18, 1897 - what a conincidence! Today is February 18, 2020.

https://litcaf.com/benin-expedition/

Ijebu fell in 1892 in 7 days, conquered by an army partly made up of fellow Yorubas (Ibadan people)...

https://litcaf.com/imagbon-war/

Egbas held out the British for a month from June - July 1918.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adubi_War

Other parts of Yoruba land (mainly Ibadan vs Ekiti) were enmeshed in a grueling civil war also known as the the Kiriji war. Hence, the British ended the war and took over administration.

No matter how much you revile Ife, Your 'god-like' Oba remains an Ife prince...

nlPoster:


Yes, there was war on all fronts, threats from everywhere.

No!

The British stayed out of the Kiriji war until the warring parties got tired of fighting. It was a useless stalemate...

The British thus stepped in easily.

ghostwon:

What year was that ?
Show me just one written note about oranmiyan (written by a person who met him).
Like the random Yoruba, you mistake fairytales with reality.
There was never an oranmiyan, the story was made up.

Come on!

Oranmiyan's Yoruba heritage is all over Benin till tomorrow.

Binis bear Yorubas names, worship Yoruba gods, speak Yoruba (Usen speak regular Yoruba) etc etc

Why did you replace the word 'ogiso' with 'Oba'

Hasn't your new Oba been to Ife already to pay homage to his father(Ooni) It's a ritual that must be performed by every new Oba of Benin...

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gregyboy:


Lol , with your population the yoruba still havnt archived greatness just like the indian pop size does not gaurantee its sucess over united state ,population cant guarantee success of a particular group" it is written in history yorubas will always be slave to other tribes

Outside nigeria yorubas is just seen as one bunch of populated people who onced were used as slaves to the whitemen and nothing more,

Yorubas despite thier population still are very uneducated and the second poorest tribe in nigeria relying complete on skul
Minning and few educated peoole to liberate them from proverty...
Your brothes coming to benin to school like thier lives depends on education


Even benson idahosa is more international reconned with thab both oyedapo and adoboye let's not even mention pastor chris


The truth is the only thing the yorubas had use to surpass edos in nigeria is population you can go ahead and debate it
Outside Nigeria they know edo than yorubas

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Mere incoherent rants!

Binis love to dwell on old glory...

Even your old glory is nothing compared to what Yorubas had.

When did they start writing Bini down like Yoruba and English

When was the Bini version of the Bible written if any

Which prominent Bini person existed during the era of Samuel Ajayi Crowther

Yorubas are poor You need a brain check. Let me refresh your dead brain cells.

https://www.nairaland.com/3918290/yorubas-most-industriousrichest-educated-tribe

Even Pastor Chris will dobale for Daddy G.O and Bishop Oyedepo anytime anyday.

Donaldoni:
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Mere incoherent rants!

Binis love to dwell on old glory...

Even your old glory is nothing compared to what Yorubas had.

When did they start writing Bini down like Yoruba and English

When was the Bini version of the Bible written if any

Which prominent Bini person existed during the era of Samuel Ajayi Crowther

Yorubas are poor You need a brain check. Let me refresh your dead brain cells.

https://www.nairaland.com/3918290/yorubas-most-industriousrichest-educated-tribe

Even Pastor Chris will dobale for Daddy G.O and Bishop Oyedepo anytime anyday.

Sir i will still say it the only thing the yorubas have used to surpass the edo people is population

Lets leave edo past glories behind at recent times even since the beginning of nigeria edos have been in the affairs of nigeria and have been representing nationally and internationally despite it small population
Just imagine it had a population like the yorubas it will be a dominion force in the entire nigeria even seizing complete power to itself

gregyboy:


Sir i will still say it the only thing the yorubas have used to surpass the edo people is population

Lets leave edo past glories behind at recent times even since the beginning of nigeria edos have been in the affairs of nigeria and have been representing nationally and internationally despite it small population
Just imagine it had a population like the yorubas it will be a dominion force in the entire nigeria even seizing complete power to itself

Show me your facts. I have shown you mine...

sammyfrosh:

Here it’s corrected.

Opolo= toad
Konko or Akee/Akeere= Frog (the edible ones)

I think it is opposite O. Frogs are not edible, most are poisonous.

Donaldoni:


Come on!

Oranmiyan's Yoruba heritage is all over Benin till tomorrow.

Binis bear Yorubas names, worship Yoruba gods, speak Yoruba (Usen speak regular Yoruba) etc etc

Why did you replace the word 'ogiso' with 'Oba'

Hasn't your new Oba been to Ife already to pay homage to his father(Ooni) It's a ritual that must be performed by every new Oba of Benin...

1) Your claim about Oranmiyan is fraudulent. You can't even give a date when he is supposed to have entered Benin Kingdom. You can't even prove that he ever existed. And I am pretty sure you have never been any where inside Edo state or Delta state.
2)Who is the father of the ooni of ife ? To the best of my recollection, your ooni of ife has a bigger brother and a father, both alive and none of them ever were the ooni of ife. This only proves the ife throne is a fraud.
3) just to help your deluded mind: there was never any oduduwa, oranmiyan, ogiso, Igodomigodo. Those are fairytales. Your chiefs didn't answer the title Oba in precolonial days nor in early colonial days. Instead they would answer the title "sir", example: "oni of ife, sir tunje".
Your chiefs did this because they sought recognition from the British who propped them up. It is only late in the colonial era that your chiefs switched to "Oba" rather than "sir" and it became: ooni of ife, Oba tunje.
4) Edo people speak a lot of languages, some speak English, some speak French some speak Japanese, Haussa, igbo and Yoruba. What I can't find in this is your point.
5) The Oba of Benin visited:
a) the sultan of Sokoto
b) the Olu of Wari
c) the Otaru if Auchi
d) the emir of Kano
e) the Etsu Nupe
f) the Obong of Calabar

It is only the low self esteem yoruba of ife who tried to twist the visit in order to gain some much desired recognition. I am just wondering how come you the Yoruba, all about you is a lie, all you do all day is about deception. Even your ooni spends his time telling lies, he claimed:
a) an ooni of ife lived 400 years
b) the Igbo migrated from ife
c) Yoruba have artefacts dated to several thousand years ago
d) the Ugbo people are Igbo
e) he calls himself emperor while he never had an army

The truth is that the origin of the Yoruba lays in Brazil. Your ancestors were captured all over Africa and made slaves in the Americas, after their liberation, they were all dumped in what is now the south west of Nigeria. That is why the Yoruba are extremely confused and full with lies, you don't belong here.

Donaldoni:



Egbas held out the British for a month from June - July 1918.

Fool, in 1918, Nigeria was already in existence. The British had already defeated everybody.

gregyboy:


Sir i will still say it the only thing the yorubas have used to surpass the edo people is population

Lets leave edo past glories behind at recent times even since the beginning of nigeria edos have been in the affairs of nigeria and have been representing nationally and internationally despite it small population
Just imagine it had a population like the yorubas it will be a dominion force in the entire nigeria even seizing complete power to itself

There is something very wrong with you, the guy is basically insulting you and your ancestors and you are calling him sir. Wtf ?

Donaldoni:
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Mere incoherent rants!

Binis love to dwell on old glory...

Even your old glory is nothing compared to what Yorubas had.

When did they start writing Bini down like Yoruba and English

When was the Bini version of the Bible written if any

Which prominent Bini person existed during the era of Samuel Ajayi Crowther

Yorubas are poor You need a brain check. Let me refresh your dead brain cells.

https://www.nairaland.com/3918290/yorubas-most-industriousrichest-educated-tribe

Even Pastor Chris will dobale for Daddy G.O and Bishop Oyedepo anytime anyday.

"in 1892 a small British expedition was sent up to the Ijebu country to enforce order. The Jebus opposed the expedition, were defeated and submitted."

The ijebu were defeated by a small force taking orders from a captain and you are here trying to beat your chest.

For your information, in 1895, the British force routed by Benin was also lead by a captain.
The British force which defeated Benin Kingdom was led by an admiral. We are not equals.

The Jebu in those days didn't even see themselves as Yoruba, they saw you the Yoruba as inferior and unworthy to enter their land.

ghostwon:
Fool, in 1918, Nigeria was already in existence. The British had already defeated everybody.

Did you read the link I posted or you were just in a haste to me who you are @bolded

I know I must have hit a nerve...

Donaldoni:


Did you read the link I posted or you were just in a haste to me who you are @bolded

You still don't understand that you are completely out of topic ? How dumb are you? What does 1918 have to do with colonial wars ? I am not even going to look into this.

ghostwon:

"in 1892 a small British expedition was sent up to the Ijebu country to enforce order. The Jebus opposed the expedition, were defeated and submitted."

The ijebu were defeated by a small force taking orders from a captain and you are here trying to beat your chest.

For your information, in 1895, the British force routed by Benin was also lead by a captain.
The British force which defeated Benin Kingdom was led by an admiral. We are not equals.

The Jebu in those days didn't even see themselves as Yoruba, they saw you the Yoruba as inferior and unworthy to enter their land.

At least you have agreed that Bini fell in hours...

Who led the expedition doesn't matter. Benin was totally destroyed. Maybe that was why an admiral was needed...

Ijebu was defeated partly by fellow Yorubas and other Nigerians on the British army. It was a tougher war for the Ijebus.

Your other points are puerile/infantile... Go and grab your dico...

Donaldoni:


At least you have agreed that Bini fell in hours...

so your new technic is to put words in my mouth ? The dates still stand: first battle was is 1897.
Last battle in 1900.
Right now you are just trolling.

ghostwon:

You still don't understand that you are completely out of topic ? How dumb are you? What does 1918 have to do with colonial wars ? I am not even going to look into this.

I know you are tempting me to e-knock your head so that the mods will ban me...

I am telling you when Egba fell and surrendered completely to the British, you are yarning tua tua. Can't you google it Lazy youth!

ghostwon:
so your new technic is to put words in my mouth ? The dates still stand: first battle was is 1897.
Last battle in 1900.
Right now you are just trolling.

Which last battle? Any links? Bini was in ruins in at the end of the expedition in 1897...

Donaldoni:


Ijebu was defeated partly by fellow Yorubas and other Nigerians on the British army. It was a tougher war for the Ijebus.

Your other points are puerile/infantile... Go and grab your dico...

actually, it is not even sure that the guy who defeated the jebus was a captain, he might have only been taking orders from a captain.
Stop making nonesensical claims to distract from the fact that a captain or a lower ranking officer defeated the jebus !
Enough, you are just an idiot.

Donaldoni:


Which last battle? Any links? Bini was in ruins in at the end of the expedition in 1897...

Napoleon captured moscow, that didn't end the war.
Benin Kingdom and Benin city are two different things which a morron like you wouldn't know.
Benin city is the capital of Benin Kingdom like Moscow is the capital of Russia.

You keep talking while your ancestors gave up with out a fight.
Benin city was destroyed because there was actually something to destroy whereas your ancestors roamed the forrest, slept in huts or without walls like the savages you are.

Donaldoni:


I know you are tempting me to e-knock your head so that the mods will ban me...

I am telling you when Egba fell and surrendered completely to the British, you are yarning tua tua. Can't you google it Lazy youth!

You obviously lack common sense.
There were no more local armies in 1918 !
Nigeria had already been created in that time.
All kingdoms had long been defeated by the British.
The fact you don't know this shows you don't belong in a serious debate.
You should be debating toddlers instead.

Donaldoni:


@bolded says a lot. I don't debate with dullllards...

For emphasis, Benin fell to the British in 6 days precisely on the February 18, 1897 - what a conincidence! Today is February 18, 2020.

https://litcaf.com/benin-expedition/

Ijebu fell in 1892 in 7 days, conquered by an army partly made up of fellow Yorubas (Ibadan people)...

https://litcaf.com/imagbon-war/

Egbas held out the British for a month from June - July 1918.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adubi_War

Other parts of Yoruba land (mainly Ibadan vs Ekiti) were enmeshed in a grueling civil war also known as the the Kiriji war. Hence, the British ended the war and took over administration.

No matter how much you revile Ife, Your 'god-like' Oba remains an Ife prince...

So true.

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ghostwon:


1) Your claim about Oranmiyan is fraudulent. You can't even give a date when he is supposed to have entered Benin Kingdom. You can't even prove that he ever existed. And I am pretty sure you have never been any where inside Edo state or Delta state.
2)Who is the father of the ooni of ife ? To the best of my recollection, your ooni of ife has a bigger brother and a father, both alive and none of them ever were the ooni of ife. This only proves the ife throne is a fraud.
3) just to help your deluded mind: there was never any oduduwa, oranmiyan, ogiso, Igodomigodo. Those are fairytales. Your chiefs didn't answer the title Oba in precolonial days nor in early colonial days. Instead they would answer the title "sir", example: "oni of ife, sir tunje".
Your chiefs did this because they sought recognition from the British who propped them up. It is only late in the colonial era that your chiefs switched to "Oba" rather than "sir" and it became: ooni of ife, Oba tunje.
4) Edo people speak a lot of languages, some speak English, some speak French some speak Japanese, Haussa, igbo and Yoruba. What I can't find in this is your point.
5) The Oba of Benin visited:
a) the sultan of Sokoto
b) the Olu of Wari
c) the Otaru if Auchi
d) the emir of Kano
e) the Etsu Nupe
f) the Obong of Calabar

It is only the low self esteem yoruba of ife who tried to twist the visit in order to gain some much desired recognition. I am just wondering how come you the Yoruba, all about you is a lie, all you do all day is about deception. Even your ooni spends his time telling lies, he claimed:
a) an ooni of ife lived 400 years
b) the Igbo migrated from ife
c) Yoruba have artefacts dated to several thousand years ago
d) the Igbo people are Igbo
e) he calls himself emperor while he never had an army

The truth is that the origin of the Yoruba lays in Brazil. Your ancestors were captured all over Africa and made slaves in the Americas, after their liberation, they were all dumped in what is now the south west of Nigeria. That is why the Yoruba are extremely confused and full with lies, you don't belong here.

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Rubbish!

Even your Bini folks agree that Oranmiyan came to establish the cuurent Bini dynasty. Where we bicker is that Oduduwa is Ekaladerhan, a lost Bini prince.
Who are you to wish away this history

Also, how dare you tell me what the natural translation for king in Yoruba should be. You dulllards keep mixing up royal title with general title. Oba means king in Yoruba and is a general title for whoever is one. Royal titles include Ooni, Alaafin, Alake etc. But their general time remains Oba.

In the Yoruba Bible, 'King of kings' (God Almighty) is translated as 'Oba awon oba'.

The Oba of Benin visit was to the Ooni was compulsory. Others may have been to just save face... His father did same...

Yoruba is spoken in parts of Benin as an indigenous language. What about the Yoruba names? What about the Yoruba traditional religion you guys adhere to

You say our origin is Brazil, yet we were taken there as slaves. Does that make sense

ghostwon:

You obviously lack common sense.
There were no more local armies in 1918 !
Nigeria had already been created in that time.
All kingdoms had long been defeated by the British.
The fact you don't know this shows you don't belong in a serious debate.
You should be debating toddlers instead.

You better go and write your own history books. Let's see how many copies you will sell...

ghostwon:


Napoleon captured moscow, that didn't end the war.
Benin Kingdom and Benin city are two different things which a morron like you wouldn't know.
Benin city is the capital of Benin Kingdom like Moscow is the capital of Russia.

You keep talking while your ancestors gave up with out a fight.
Benin city was destroyed because there was actually something to destroy whereas your ancestors roamed the forrest, slept in huts or without walls like the savages you are.

Shut up!

Benin kingdom died the day the city was conquered. Benin conquest happened in 6 days.

Benin itself was 'bigger' than the kingdom and it was the sole target of the Brits...

ghostwon:
actually, it is not even sure that the guy who defeated the jebus was a captain, he might have only been taking orders from a captain.
Stop making nonesensical claims to distract from the fact that a captain or a lower ranking officer defeated the jebus !
Enough, you are just an idiot.

You keep sounding like a drowning, pained man. My point is that Benin was destroyed in 6 days by the Brits as against your claim that it took five years...

Donaldoni:
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Rubbish!

Even your Bini folks agree that Oranmiyan came to establish the cuurent Bini dynasty. Where we bicker is that Oduduwa is Ekaladerhan, a lost Bini prince.
Who are you to wish away this history

Also, how dare you tell me what the natural translation for king in Yoruba should be. You dulllards keep mixing up royal title with general title. Oba means king in Yoruba and is a general title for whoever is one. Royal titles include Ooni, Alaafin, Alake etc. But their general time remains Oba.

In the Yoruba Bible, 'King of kings' (God Almighty) is translated as 'Oba awon oba'.

The Oba of Benin visit was to the Ooni was compulsory. Others may have been to just save face... His father did same...

Yoruba is spoken in parts of Benin as an indigenous language. What about the Yoruba names? What about the Yoruba traditional religion you guys adhere to

You say our origin is Brazil, yet we were taken there as slaves. Does that make sense

1) The things which do not make sense are all the rubbish which you just typed.
As I have already told you, languages evolve over time.
The fact you have a definition for Oba other than the ruler of Benin empire in your dictionary today doesn't imply it was so hundreds of years ago. Actually hundreds of years ago, you had no dictionary your ancestors couldn't write.
So it is completely stupid to claim the word Oba while your only justification is the current meaning of the word in your language.

2) It seems you need me to repeat, because your brain is very slow:

ghostwon:


1) Your claim about Oranmiyan is fraudulent. You can't even give a date when he is supposed to have entered Benin Kingdom. You can't even prove that he ever existed. And I am pretty sure you have never been any where inside Edo state or Delta state.
2)Who is the father of the ooni of ife ? To the best of my recollection, your ooni of ife has a bigger brother and a father, both alive and none of them ever were the ooni of ife. This only proves the ife throne is a fraud.
3) just to help your deluded mind: there was never any oduduwa, oranmiyan, ogiso, Igodomigodo. Those are fairytales. Your chiefs didn't answer the title Oba in precolonial days nor in early colonial days. Instead they would answer the title "sir", example: "oni of ife, sir tunje".
Your chiefs did this because they sought recognition from the British who propped them up. It is only late in the colonial era that your chiefs switched to "Oba" rather than "sir" and it became: ooni of ife, Oba tunje.
4) Edo people speak a lot of languages, some speak English, some speak French some speak Japanese, Haussa, igbo and Yoruba. What I can't find in this is your point.
5) The Oba of Benin visited:
a) the sultan of Sokoto
b) the Olu of Wari
c) the Otaru if Auchi
d) the emir of Kano
e) the Etsu Nupe
f) the Obong of Calabar

It is only the low self esteem yoruba of ife who tried to twist the visit in order to gain some much desired recognition. I am just wondering how come you the Yoruba, all about you is a lie, all you do all day is about deception. Even your ooni spends his time telling lies, he claimed:
a) an ooni of ife lived 400 years
b) the Igbo migrated from ife
c) Yoruba have artefacts dated to several thousand years ago
d) the ugbo people are Igbo
e) he calls himself emperor while he never had an army

The truth is that the origin of the Yoruba lays in Brazil. Your ancestors were captured all over Africa and made slaves in the Americas, after their liberation, they were all dumped in what is now the south west of Nigeria. That is why the Yoruba are extremely confused and full with lies, you don't belong here.

3) the incredible stupidity of the Yoruba is that you keep believing you are the costodians of other people's history and traditions. You would see Igbo and say, this is your history, you will see Edo and say this is your history, you will see ijaw and say here is your history ...wtf
These your lies most likely started when your ancestors were freshly dumped in our shores and had to make all sorts of lies in order to survive and be accepted by the locals.

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ghostwon:


1) The things which do not make sense are all the rubbish which you just typed.
As I have already told you, languages evolve over time.
The fact you have a definition for Oba other than the ruler of Benin empire in your dictionary doesn't imply it was so hundreds of years ago. Actually hundreds of years ago, you had no dictionary your ancestors couldn't write.
So it is completely stupid to claim the word Oba while your only justification is the current meaning of the word in your language.

2) It seems you need me to repeat, because your brain is very slow:

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Wherever you hear the word dullllard, just answer yes!

Why did Binis have to wait for Oranmiyan to come and establish the current royal dynasty before they adopted the Yoruba word, Oba

Why did you do away with ogiso Binis learnt Yoruba and adopted it as their second language.

As regards the British conquest of the Egbas in 1918, go and write your own history book if you are not satisfied with what we have on ground...