kokanepyramid:

Did I quote you?

Perhaps the shoe fits

Bernie Sanders 2020

JeromeBlack:



Bernie Sanders 2020

go and swear him in and see if Secret Service wont get you arrested.

kokanepyramid:
typical leftist

that is a complement, I am a pure leftist myself, what else would I rather be? A trump arse licker like you guys? Whose brains are frozen on see no evil hear no evil mode?

kokanepyramid:
they don’t follow. While you have Trump debating on deals to better America and the lives within. Leftist debate on what signs should be on the toilet door, how we should care more about cows than Americans, how we should give LGBTQ more roles in politics because they are LGBTQ and not because they have proven to be able to do the job, how you should care more about Hispanics coming into US illegally, care more about Soleimani than Americans, debating on how to collect 80% tax from the rich cos it’s a crime to be rich and you want jobs and the economy to boom with these misplaced priorities.

debating on 80% tax from the rich is better than Jeff bezos getting away with paying almost nothing in taxes last year, while amazon is shutting down over 66% of local retail stores nationwide with attendant job losses, he is accruing more wealth and paying no tax, plus if Jeff bezos is taxed 80% he still remains a billionaire with more money than lifetimes to spend! When the US had up to 50% tax early to mid century funding their industrial explosion they still had many billionaires who weren't complaining, you noise maker are not a billionaire and you're unlikely to ever become one so the fact that you are entrenched in defending a clique you won't join goes very far to show the social conditioning Republicans are subjected to so much so they fight against self interest in evey issue at all corners, you have to deplete your brain mass to remain a faithful republican! If I should ask you what personal interest of yours it serves for Jeff bezos to be worth $80billion rather than $20billion what solid logic would you be able to come with apart from the puerile reducing his stacks of billions makes you a hater?

GalaticHorde:
debating on 80% tax from the rich is better than Jeff bezos getting away with paying almost nothing in taxes last year, while amazon is shutting down over 66% of local retail stores nationwide with attendant job losses, he is accruing more wealth and paying no tax, plus if Jeff bezos is taxed 80% he still remains a billionaire with more money than lifetimes to spend! When the US had up to 50% tax early to mid century funding their industrial explosion they still had many billionaires who weren't complaining, you noise maker are not a billionaire and you're unlikely to ever become one so the fact that you are entrenched in defending a clique you won't join goes very far to show the social conditioning Republicans are subjected to so much so they fight against self interest in evey issue at all corners, you have to deplete your brain mass to remain a faithful republican! If I should ask you what personal interest of yours it serves for Jeff bezos to be worth $80billion rather than $20billion what solid logic would you be able to come with apart from the puerile reducing his stacks of billions makes you a hater?

That is because America does not punish success. Jeff Bezos is the typical American story who came from a humble background born to a Bike shop mechanic and a 17yr old high school girl. Jeff has shown us that him as a McDonald worker on minimum wage can rise to become the richest man in the country, That is the American spirit

That is what every American what to be like, the spirit of free enterprise is what grew America to what it was and the failure to do that was why all those Socialist and communist countries failed. That was why many of the brilliant minds in the old eastern bloc fled to America

In America, you look for a problem, work hard and find a solution and you are going to get paid while doing it and no govt will take 80% of your worth

Jeff is now able to expand Amazon from an online bookshop/library we used to visit in the late 90s to the biggest enterprise in the world. Amazon can now deliver any item to your doorstep by employing millions of people who do delivery for them. Thus he solved a problem and created millions of jobs doing it. When Jeff was doing all that where were the people who had the same opportunity as him. Just recently Bezos committed 10billion of his own personal money to fight climate change

Same with Elon Musk he took a gamble to create an electric car for people when he makes it, Now Bernie and friends will be looking to take 80% of his money

Your friend studying hard, going to college to study hard courses while you are taking it easy playing beer pong, later in life you will tell govt to tax him more so he can fund your lifestyle

If Bernie and his millionaire friends like him want to pay more no one will stop them

BTW you know Bernie can choose to pay 80% of his income as taxes and IRS won't reject it, I wonder why he hasn't done it

GalaticHorde:
thin line? Trying to come of as smart and failing woefully! You all always point to Venezuela as an example but not Germany, Denmark, Sweden, Norway and many other countries whose boots the US isn't fit to lick

They want to reduce military spending. Are these not the same European countries crying that who would protect them if America pulls out of NATO and how Putin will roast them

They don't want to finance their military but want Daddy America to protect them whenever Putin comes toward their borders.

When ISIS was running lose on France, Belgium and Germany in pre-Trump days, was it not the same defence spending of America that had to come to their aid in Syria to defeat ISIS?

That is why I support Trump who tasked the NATO countries to pay their own fair share, America wont be using the same defence budget you all deride to protect you

NATO guidelines states that each country should pay AT least 2% of their GDP on NATO defence spending. See how much Germany Denmark Canada France and Norway are contributing

GalaticHorde:
debating on 80% tax from the rich is better than Jeff bezos getting away with paying almost nothing in taxes last year, while amazon is shutting down over 66% of local retail stores nationwide with attendant job losses, he is accruing more wealth and paying no tax, plus if Jeff bezos is taxed 80% he still remains a billionaire with more money than lifetimes to spend! When the US had up to 50% tax early to mid century funding their industrial explosion they still had many billionaires who weren't complaining, you noise maker are not a billionaire and you're unlikely to ever become one so the fact that you are entrenched in defending a clique you won't join goes very far to show the social conditioning Republicans are subjected to so much so they fight against self interest in evey issue at all corners, you have to deplete your brain mass to remain a faithful republican! If I should ask you what personal interest of yours it serves for Jeff bezos to be worth $80billion rather than $20billion what solid logic would you be able to come with apart from the puerile reducing his stacks of billions makes you a hater?

All these shrill are in Nigeria where live is brutish and short, and the billi boys oppress them constantly. When Warren Buffet is asking government to tax the rich folks more. Imagine me paying more than Amazon from my MD state department 9-5.

JeromeBlack:
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Silly Trump supporter. Did I not tell you that I do not watch CNN or even MSNBC?

You know this is a big lie, you can't be this brainwashed and not watch CNN or MSNBC.

garetz:

You know this is a big lie, you can't be this brainwashed and not watch CNN or MSNBC.

I dont watch TV. Period.

I read articles from various sources. I even read conservative news and conservative reddit.

kokanepyramid:

Did I quote you?

Perhaps the shoe fits

The shoe fits perfectly

garetz:

You know this is a big lie, you can't be this brainwashed and not watch CNN or MSNBC.

This is priceless coming from a shill that gulp all the crap from Fauxnews, Breitbart, OANN and Newsmaxx. Medium that are certified as entertainment crapzoid.

Economy is the best since the big bang, Obama hold my soda can bitchhh.

Kopfschmerzenmd:
Economy is the best since the big bang, Obama hold my soda can bitchhh.

This is what I have been saying since. The unemployment rate fell faster under obama. People forget that Obama turned a recession into a healthy economy.


Trump suppporters dont read, especially the Nigerian ones

GalaticHorde:
debating on 80% tax from the rich is better than Jeff bezos getting away with paying almost nothing in taxes last year, while amazon is shutting down over 66% of local retail stores nationwide with attendant job losses, he is accruing more wealth and paying no tax, plus if Jeff bezos is taxed 80% he still remains a billionaire with more money than lifetimes to spend! When the US had up to 50% tax early to mid century funding their industrial explosion they still had many billionaires who weren't complaining, you noise maker are not a billionaire and you're unlikely to ever become one so the fact that you are entrenched in defending a clique you won't join goes very far to show the social conditioning Republicans are subjected to so much so they fight against self interest in evey issue at all corners, you have to deplete your brain mass to remain a faithful republican! If I should ask you what personal interest of yours it serves for Jeff bezos to be worth $80billion rather than $20billion what solid logic would you be able to come with apart from the puerile reducing his stacks of billions makes you a hater?

if you are he’ll bent of taxing the rich and their businesses that high in your country it’s only normal for them to go do the business elsewhere with lower tax rates. This in the long term would lead to loss of jobs which would have more demerits that the merits of so called hike in tax.
Why do you think China was taking American jobs, why do you think the elites were subtly in favour of invasion of illegal immigrants that would transform to cheap labour.

I actually do not expect you to understand this logic afterall you are a leftist ur emotions think for you, it’s all about how you “feel”.

Kopfschmerzenmd:


All these shrill are in Nigeria where live is brutish and short, and the billi boys oppress them constantly. When Warren Buffet is asking government to tax the rich folks more. Imagine me paying more than Amazon from my MD state department 9-5.

Typical leftist propaganda, where is Trump taxing the middle or bottom class which you belong more. Even in Nigeria there are various Tax bracket depending on your earnings.

But how on earth is it fair to tax someone of more share of his income. I work you tax me 80% while I take home 20%.
Is it a crime to be rich now.

kokanepyramid:

Typical leftist propaganda, where is Trump taxing the middle or bottom class which you belong more. Even in Nigeria there are various Tax bracket depending on your earnings.

But how on earth is it fair to tax someone of more share of his income. I work you tax me 80% while I take home 20%.
Is it a crime to be rich now.

This is ignorance at the best, paid my highest federal tax in all my adult life last year. Same year Amazon and other US corporations paid 0 in federal tax. The issue about Merica is greater than y'all imps. Worry more about getting a warm and healthy meal first.

kokanepyramid:
if you are he’ll bent of taxing the rich and their businesses that high in your country it’s only normal for them to go do the business elsewhere with lower tax rates. This in the long term would lead to loss of jobs which would have more demerits that the merits of so called hike in tax.
Why do you think China was taking American jobs, why do you think the elites were subtly in favour of invasion of illegal immigrants that would transform to cheap labour.

I actually do not expect you to understand this logic afterall you are a leftist ur emotions think for you, it’s all about how you “feel”.

There are still Billionaires in the UK where tax rate of higher bracket earners is 40% and above. Why should Amazon pay 0% in taxes? Then poor people should be paying taxes?

You Trump fans and republicans are quite ridiculous. You like socialist welfare in the sense of tax cuts for the rich but hate any socialist programme that helps the poor.

Furthermore, most leftist would tell you that they are not taxing small business owners- they want to tax the rich and mega-corporations who have escaped taxes for a long time. Use your brain


Furthermore, even without increased taxes, manufacturing is still expensive in the USA. This is why there has

JeromeBlack:




There are still Billionaires in the UK where tax rate of higher bracket earners is 40% and above. Why should Amazon pay 0% in taxes? Then poor people should be paying taxes?

You Trump fans and republicans are quite ridiculous. You like socialist welfare in the sense of tax cuts for the rich but hate any socialist programme that helps the poor.

Furthermore, most leftist would tell you that they are not taxing small business owners- they want to tax the rich and mega-corporations who have escaped taxes for a long time. Use your brain


Furthermore, even without increased taxes, manufacturing is still expensive in the USA. This is why there has

can you point out where I supported tax evasion?

kokanepyramid:
can you point out where I supported tax evasion?

Tax cuts for the rich.

If you support Trump, you indirectly support tax cuts for the rich who do not need it.

Trump himself wont release his tax returns.


Bernie Sanders wants to tax billionaires. What is wrong with that? These are the one percent that have enjoyed tax cuts and many federal bailouts (which the right/republicans never see as socialism) and have escaped paying tax through various loopholes.

JeromeBlack:


Tax cuts for the rich.

If you support Trump, you indirectly support tax cuts for the rich who do not need it.

Trump himself wont release his tax returns.


Bernie Sanders wants to tax billionaires. What is wrong with that? These are the one percent that have enjoyed tax cuts and many federal bailouts (which the right/republicans never see as socialism) and have escaped paying tax through various loopholes.

you mentioned Amazon paying 0 tax that’s evasion and has nothing to do with tax cut. Also there’s no metric to back that they won’t be evading if tax rises to 80%. Meanwhile tax evasion is not committed by the rich alone.
So what’s your point?

kokanepyramid:
you mentioned Amazon paying 0 tax that’s evasion and has nothing to do with tax cut. Also there’s no metric to back that they won’t be evading if tax rises to 80%. Meanwhile tax evasion is not committed by the rich alone.
So what’s your point?

Who is asking for 80% tax?

Furthermore, the loopholes and tax cuts are easily remedied by having federal laws that close them.

You have no point

JeromeBlack:


Who is asking for 80% tax?

Furthermore, the loopholes and tax cuts are easily remedied by having federal laws that close them.

You have no point

Leftist have been asking for such outrageous rate.

kokanepyramid:

Leftist have been asking for such outrageous rate.

Which leftists?

JeromeBlack:




There are still Billionaires in the UK where tax rate of higher bracket earners is 40% and above. Why should Amazon pay 0% in taxes? Then poor people should be paying taxes?

You Trump fans and republicans are quite ridiculous. You like socialist welfare in the sense of tax cuts for the rich but hate any socialist programme that helps the poor.

Furthermore, most leftist would tell you that they are not taxing small business owners- they want to tax the rich and mega-corporations who have escaped taxes for a long time. Use your brain


Furthermore, even without increased taxes, manufacturing is still expensive in the USA. This is why there has

What is the tax bracket for the highest earners in the US? You think its zero?

zendi:

Forget his charisma problem, he can keep his stony face while VP Clinton does the smiling.
Not just about money, though money matters greatly too.
If you remove his globalist and climate doom sentiments, he is actually a Republican by pragmatic, commonsense approaches.
Bloomberg is somebody I believe many Trump loathing Republicans may feel okay voting for in addition to Dems.
But I wish he misses the nomination, then I will consider it done for Trump, and happily invite you to a pre-election Trump re-election party.

...Mike Bloomberg is one person, Trump will want to contest against...based on previous interaction between the two...unfortunately Bloomberg appearance will have a negative outcome for the other moderates democrats candidate like Biden and Klobucher...the final outcome might be between Bloomberg and Sanders...

...If Bloomberg eventually wins the nomination...Sanders supporters will not vote...because they will once again see it as injustice from the DNC...similar thing played out in 2016...

raumdeuter:


What is the tax bracket for the highest earners in the US? You think its zero?

The highest earners? You mean the one percent who have many loopholes to escape taxes? You mean the mega-corporations who get millions of dollars in tax cuts?

I dont think rich people dont pay taxes. I am against the uber-rich getting tax breaks and using loopholes to escape paying their fair share. I am talking about multi-millionaires and billionaires.

raumdeuter:


What is the tax bracket for the highest earners in the US? You think its zero?

35%

JeromeBlack:



The highest earners? You mean the one percent who have many loopholes to escape taxes? You mean the mega-corporations who get millions of dollars in tax cuts?

I dont think rich people dont pay taxes. I am against the uber-rich getting tax breaks and using loopholes to escape paying their fair share. I am talking about multi-millionaires and billionaires.

https://www.bankrate.com/finance/taxes/tax-brackets.aspx

Anyone making over 600k pays 37% in federal taxes. Most state have a state tax as well, for example If he lives in California pays an additional 13% in taxes

Basically 50% of his earnings goes in taxes.

There are provisions for business owners to deduct business expenses before paying taxes. Its open to anyone just have a business. Even if its bread or corner store. America is for business owners and incentives are given to employers of labor

JeromeBlack:




See the nonsense you are writing. As if there are no crazy trump supporters.

Why do you think it's smart of Bernie to heavily tax the rich?

JeromeBlack:



The highest earners? You mean the one percent who have many loopholes to escape taxes? You mean the mega-corporations who get millions of dollars in tax cuts?

I dont think rich people dont pay taxes. I am against the uber-rich getting tax breaks and using loopholes to escape paying their fair share. I am talking about multi-millionaires and billionaires.

What Bernie is proposing is going to trickle down and affect average folks like you. Rich people own America, they own big business, real estate, commerce, etc. If you tax them heavily, they will increase cost of housing (rent), products, etc to make profit.

This is the same thing You people were heckling Trump about with the trade war, and him wanting to place heavy tarrif on China, you think it'll hurt China? No. It's the end users like you that'll get hurt.

As long as consumers exist, you can't hurt the Rich.

SenecaTheYonger:


What Bernie is proposing is going to trickle down and affect average folks like you. Rich people own America, they own big business, real estate, commerce, etc. If you tax them heavily, they will increase cost of housing (rent), products, etc to make profit.

This is the same thing You people were heckling Trump about with the trade war, and him wanting to place heavy tarrif on China, you think it'll hurt China? No. It's the end users like you that'll get hurt.

As long as consumers exist, you can't hurt the Rich.

And how has tax cuts helped the poor? You keep feeding the rich and the poor will still get poorer.

Go back to american history. There was a time taxes were as high as 60% if not more. Billionaires didn't suddenly run away.

There is profit and there is super profit. Increasing taxes for the 1% wont lead to armageddon. USA wont collapse. Higher taxes for the 1 percent should be met with subsidies for small to medium business owners.

As for China, it is a different case. I agree with you that Trump is wrong with the trade war.

SenecaTheYonger:


Why do you think it's smart of Bernie to heavily tax the rich?

Not the rich but the super rich. The one percent. Those are the real villains.