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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 12:06pm On Feb 18, 2020
At this rate by 2032 they naira go done hit 1000 per dollar ...
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 12:10pm On Feb 18, 2020
Meaning your 36m now (100k dollars)invested at 6 %in tb by around 72m by 2032 ..whoa u don hammer but wait 720000000/1000 = 72000 dollars .....whoa u intentional loss money 28k dollars ....no wonder dangote open the new york office to preserve value ....

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 12:16pm On Feb 18, 2020
I think the global financial system is a scam tilted in favour of western Nation ...the africa keep getting poorer and miserable why the American buy up africans resources at weaken currency
..if the American want to buy up a house in lekki wort 100m now he will wait with 100k dollars when naira hits 1000 he buys without any futher effort. but the lekki man that want to send his son to us to school @30000 dollars per session need 30m naira in 12 years to do that

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by yomi007k(m): 12:33pm On Feb 18, 2020
ahiboilandgas:
I think the global financial system is a scam tilted in favour of western Nation ...the africa keep getting poorer and miserable why the American buy up africans resources at weaken currency
..if the American want to buy up a house in lekki wort 100m now he will wait with 100k dollars when naira hits 1000 he buys without any futher effort. but the lekki man that want to send his son to us to school @30000 dollars per session need 30m naira in 12 years to do that

Oga ahib. Apart from travelling out, please what would u advice local man to do?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 12:47pm On Feb 18, 2020
yomi007k:


Oga ahib. Apart from travelling out, please what would u advice local man to do?
my bother if the oppurnties arises especially canada or Australia legally no dull your self ..especaill in stem courses plus America ( your future is more certain ) ireland ( if attending computer related course.) Then if u dey local na to do traditional bizz ....like i got a contract to move 180k litres of deseal for construction firm at 2.7m this week it will cost me over 1m in deseal only but is very stressful , and fearful cos the goods is wort 40m while the carrier is around 44m so 88m on the road ....my bp will be high untill delivery....if am runing same biz in canada may be less profit but good road and excellent insurance

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by aremso(m): 1:39pm On Feb 18, 2020
RealityShot:
will you get dividends if you buy after mark down?

How do I know when Mark down will happen?

no dividend after mark down and the qualification date would be announced for dividend payment so after marking down for dividend payment nothing of such again but those bought before the qualification date and did not sell bfore mark down will qualify for dividend payment
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Poanan: 2:06pm On Feb 18, 2020
ahiboilandgas:
Meaning your 36m now (100k dollars)invested at 6 %in tb by around 72m by 2032 ..whoa u don hammer but wait 720000000/1000 = 72000 dollars .....whoa u intentional loss money 28k dollars ....no wonder dangote open the new york office to preserve value ....

Haba you dont calculate it like that o. how does the capital deteriorate to 72k dollars start from there.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by tunene66: 3:01pm On Feb 18, 2020
ahiboilandgas:
I think the global financial system is a scam tilted in favour of western Nation ...the africa keep getting poorer and miserable why the American buy up africans resources at weaken currency
..if the American want to buy up a house in lekki wort 100m now he will wait with 100k dollars when naira hits 1000 he buys without any futher effort. but the lekki man that want to send his son to us to school @30000 dollars per session need 30m naira in 12 years to do that

That is a known fact.
A way out is for a strong monetary union in Africa and reduced dependence on the dollar/other major currencies
Lets look inward and develop what we have. We should reduce commodity export and increase the export of finished products
It will take time , but it is doable

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by lastmessenger: 3:47pm On Feb 18, 2020
fineguy11:
Try fixing with Nigeria's largest mfb(LAPO).
but lapo is a microfinance bank and not a deposit money bank. How come they are now opening fixed deposit account?

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by saipn: 4:46pm On Feb 18, 2020
ahiboilandgas:
my bother if the oppurnties arises especially canada or Australia legally no dull your self ..especaill in stem courses plus America ( your future is more certain ) ireland ( if attending computer related course.) Then if u dey local na to do traditional bizz ....like i got a contract to move 180k litres of deseal for construction firm at 2.7m this week it will cost me over 1m in deseal only but is very stressful , and fearful cos the goods is wort 40m while the carrier is around 44m so 88m on the road ....my bp will be high untill delivery....if am runing same biz in canada may be less profit but good road and excellent insurance
Boss you are right concerning leaving the country legally but sadly treasury bill rate is not encouraging simply because I am building it to pay for my msc school fees abroad...hopefully if I could raise it I will need your help on something for back up during visa application...
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Topson88: 5:14pm On Feb 18, 2020
ahiboilandgas:
my bother if the oppurnties arises especially canada or Australia legally no dull your self ..especaill in stem courses plus America ( your future is more certain ) ireland ( if attending computer related course.) Then if u dey local na to do traditional bizz ....like i got a contract to move 180k litres of deseal for construction firm at 2.7m this week it will cost me over 1m in deseal only but is very stressful , and fearful cos the goods is wort 40m while the carrier is around 44m so 88m on the road ....my bp will be high untill delivery....if am runing same biz in canada may be less profit but good road and excellent insurance
Boss UK nko?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 5:19pm On Feb 18, 2020
Topson88:

Boss UK nko?
let them introduce the 2 year psw visa that will serve as your security...last last u go security work to recover your tution fees

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Topson88: 5:25pm On Feb 18, 2020
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nnamz(m): 6:29pm On Feb 18, 2020
Midex88:


Why do you want to report him. Do you want to get him sacked. I Too Know People
Guy calm down. If you don't know your job, you deserve to be sacked. This shouldn't even be debated.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by RealityShot: 7:50pm On Feb 18, 2020
aremso:


no dividend after mark down and the qualification date would be announced for dividend payment so after marking down for dividend payment nothing of such again but those bought before the qualification date and did not sell bfore mark down will qualify for dividend payment
so why would you want to buy after mark down and miss dividends?
I s it purely for jijo?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by tomtom370: 10:14pm On Feb 18, 2020
Since 1990, the Naira has depreciated against the Dollar by an average of 13.5% per annum.

The Naira traded against the Dollar for N7.90 in 1990. Thirty years after (2020), it’s traded for N360 per Dollar.

Run the calculations and compound the difference.

It’s obvious that foreign currency investments trump whatever investments/profit one is making in Nigeria, in the long term.

Nigeria’s economy has no base, clarity, consistency and strategy.

Not to create any panic, it’s better to diversify one’s portfolio to foreign currency.

tunene66:


I have studied the Naira vs dollar chart and notice a tendency. Once in every few years, the Naira gets devalued, after which it remains very stable for a few years. Also, just near the period after the devaluation, there is ample investment opportunities with great ROI to prevent flight capital. (e.g rate for T-bills were 17-20% immediately after the devaluation in 2014/2015).

Food for thought

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by fineguy11(m): 10:28pm On Feb 18, 2020
lastmessenger:
but lapo is a microfinance bank and not a deposit money bank. How come they are now opening fixed deposit account?
. Microfinace banks are classified as 'Other financial institutions' and as such have a regulatory duty to Give out funds and also mobilize deposits. MFB's are only restricted from trading in foreign currencies and Operating directly in Clearing house.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by fineguy11(m): 10:34pm On Feb 18, 2020
doublestar21:




Those amount must it be daily or monthly, because I saw Amount/day. Pls clarify me. Thanks
The tenor is stacked against different rates..The tenor/duration determines the rate you get. If u fixing 100k for say a month, u get 6% PER ANNUM. If you fixing for 1 year you get 7% per annum.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by katamo: 3:36am On Feb 19, 2020
pluto09:





The decision to devalue the naira has little to do with rationality....
The major determinant is oil price....if oil price is low CBN will have no option than to devalue the naira

Agreed. Barring a large shock in oil prices, I don't think CBN will willingly devalue the naira. It seems this government is obsessed with defending the naira at great expense of our foreign reserves.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by damilola1978: 3:55am On Feb 19, 2020
Unfortunately I have an issue with all these you guys are saying, as at 2016/2017 we had oil prices at $25-35 a barrel, naira was devalued in the name of floating foreign exchange...

In my opinion CBN is not being sincere in having different exchange rates for the naira...

I believe if both interbank/blackmarket have a single exchange rate (apparently nothing to defend by CBN), our reserves would not suffer as BDCs and importers would have no reason to look to government for forex, afterall you wont get any special value or rebate per dollar...well the down side is BDC business may end up crumbling...
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by opomulero(m): 5:47am On Feb 19, 2020
good morning house,
is there anything like usd or euro investment which can guarantee my capital

cos im planning to convert all my 600k into usd or euro and then find place to invest it.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by aremso(m): 6:22am On Feb 19, 2020
RealityShot:
so why would you want to buy after mark down and miss dividends?
I s it purely for jijo?

i laff in spanish!i should buy a stock at let say N19 and a dividend of let say N2 then after marking down the price goes to N16 does that make investment sense?If i cant buy lower into any stock before dividend payment i will never buy into such stock cos after mark down it will go down so what is the usefuness of the dividend, u gets N2 dividend and the stock went down by N4 doe that increase your wealth? but if i can buy lower like N14 and the price rose to N22 i can still wait for dividend then bail out after marking down. Pls note i cant buy stock and go to sleep, i monitor my investment and ensure my wealth increase every yr.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 7:12am On Feb 19, 2020
aremso:


i laff in spanish!i should buy a stock at let say N19 and a dividend of let say N2 then after marking down the price goes to N16 does that make investment sense?If i cant buy lower into any stock before dividend payment i will never buy into such stock cos after mark down it will go down so what is the usefuness of the dividend, u gets N2 dividend and the stock went down by N4 doe that increase your wealth? but if i can buy lower like N14 and the price rose to N22 i can still wait for dividend then bail out after marking down. Pls note i cant buy stock and go to sleep, i monitor my investment and ensure my wealth increase every yr.



What if it does not go down to N14 nor appreciate to N22?

The most important thing is to know how to value an investment based on the expected cash flow from such investments, ones you have gotten the expected valuation from such investments the cheaper it becomes will be an answer to your prayers and accumulate more.

Master your emotions. When the market euphoria send such investments beyond their valuations and the cash flow from such investments can't support their current prices you sell and identify other opportunities.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by lastmessenger: 8:19am On Feb 19, 2020
fineguy11:
. Microfinace banks are classified as 'Other financial institutions' and as such have a regulatory duty to Give out funds and also mobilize deposits. MFB's are only restricted from trading in foreign currencies and Operating directly in Clearing house.
anyway as soon as my tb drops in, I may just pay there office a visit to ascertain how to go about the fixed deposit ie if tb rate is still ridiculously low.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by just2endowed: 10:04am On Feb 19, 2020
Hmmm
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by aremso(m): 10:29am On Feb 19, 2020
emmanuelewumi:




What if it does not go down to N14 nor appreciate to N22?

The most important thing is to know how to value an investment based on the expected cash flow from such investments, ones you have gotten the expected valuation from such investments the cheaper it becomes will be an answer to your prayers and accumulate more.

Master your emotions. When the market euphoria send such investments beyond their valuations and the cash flow from such investments can't support their current prices you sell and identify other opportunities.


I dont speak much grammer, investors should stick to what works for them.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by kristien4(m): 11:53am On Feb 19, 2020
lastmessenger:
anyway as soon as my tb drops in, I may just pay there office a visit to ascertain how to go about the fixed deposit ie if tb rate is still ridiculously low.
I just opened an account with Lapo microfinance today, their rates are good. The only part I dnt like is they don't have a designated ussd code and a bank app. Every other thing checks out.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by opomulero(m): 11:55am On Feb 19, 2020
opomulero:
good morning house,
is there anything like usd or euro investment which can guarantee my capital

cos im planning to convert all my 600k into usd or euro and then find place to invest it.


any info pls
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by lastmessenger: 12:04pm On Feb 19, 2020
kristien4:
I just opened an account with Lapo microfinance today, their rates are good. The only part I dnt like is they don't have a designated ussd code and a bank app. Every other thing checks out.
good one. This serve as an alternative to TB. The only difference being that there is no upfront payment.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by kisszhira(m): 1:08pm On Feb 19, 2020
kristien4:
I just opened an account with Lapo microfinance today, their rates are good. The only part I dnt like is they don't have a designated ussd code and a bank app. Every other thing checks out.

Just pray you don't fall into the hands of MMM in the name of MFB.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by fineguy11(m): 3:06pm On Feb 19, 2020
kristien4:
I just opened an account with Lapo microfinance today, their rates are good. The only part I dnt like is they don't have a designated ussd code and a bank app. Every other thing checks out.
we will be launching a new Banking software next month..This will usher in lots of innovations including the app and ussd code..if you indend fixing funds please use my I'd as referral so it counts for me smiley smiley
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by fineguy11(m): 3:12pm On Feb 19, 2020
kisszhira:


Just pray you don't fall into the hands of MMM in the name of MFB.
Take advantage of our rates and get good return on investment...A bank regulated by CBN is not a ponzi scheme..please do your research and stop negativity.Our income statement and credit ratings are available for anyone who needs them!with that you can make a well informed judgement..

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