ChristineC:
well let's take consolation that we've actually moved closer no matter the pace
at least we were about 11 points away at some stage.

Lol we just need to end up in that top 4 , I dunno how

Today;s game was too fast and physical for Mata. I think Lingard would have offered more in a fast and physical contest like this if McTominay must be removed to allow him come into full match fitness.

If we do not use physical players to protect Bruno, we might be having the Di Maria case in our hands. Also, Bailly over Lindelof for now. Bailly exudes so much confidence in the backline and it helps our play from the defence. With Lindelof, it is struggling to cope rather than trying to play. My opinion for now based on few games played by Bailly.

That was an obvious offside. Nigga was lying down in an offside position in the direct line of vision of the GK.

Elampiro was right. Some of una no know ball.

afrodoc2:

That was an obvious offside. Nigga was lying down in an offside position in the direct line of vision of the GK.

Elampiro was right. Some of una no know ball.

Na you no know ball, did he interfere with play?
Who had the last touch, was it a united or Everton player?
Just admit the shitty var was on your side today

Honestly, I know you people will say i talk too much about this issue, But, how can a GK earning 350k/ week will keep giving opponents head starts one too many times to cost us point.

Apart from today. The few i can remember are.

- Vs Same Everton when he misjudged a cross to let Lindelof score an own goal.

- Vs C.palace, we just equalised and few minutes remaining, he committed a howler to lose us the match at the death.

- Vs Watford, when he let a scoffed shot by Sarr.

He is 2nd behind Dubraska in errors leading to goal, how can we keep on putting up with this? The difference between making 4 and not making it are just fine margins, we lost top 4 to man city in 2016 on goal difference, that error vs palace that cost us 1 point, might just be difference. I love DDG very well but even when I try, i couldn't see him make jaw dropping saves, nowadays any shot in our post my mind fly, No team achieves anything with a GK who keep making errors. Lampard dropped a 70m keeper to play 40 year old Caballero, Klopp offloaded mignolet and Karius to win Champions league, Imagine is those 2 errors from Karius were prevented, Liverpool might have won the UCL instead of madrid, Imagine if Van der sar committed an error in our tensed final with Chelsea in Moscow. Barthez won the world cup came to United, after some errors fergie binned him for Tim Howard. 2 points, 1 points, 3 points dropped here and there due to errors or inability to keep out a routine shot, is costing us and will cost us dearly. Ole has make changes in the summer in the GK department.

Yes one can make mistakes, but its becoming a habit that for every 4 league or 5 league games he will drop a clanger. I can bet you that this will not be his last this season. For spain he knocked them out in Euros by allowing Chilienni to score, in the world cup same errors, play a normal shot and its a goal, no wonder he was dropped in spain. I can guarantee you that if either Kepa or DDG star for spain in the Euros they will not go far.

NB: i dont have any agenda against DDG he will go down as a legend probably, but he need to be dropped next season. He can stage a comeback but he mustn't be our undisputed number 1.

Atalanta 7-2

Jesus Christ!!! These guys dey scoreee

Shalaye FC

afrodoc2:

That was an obvious offside. Nigga was lying down in an offside position in the direct line of vision of the GK.

Elampiro was right. Some of una no know ball.

Varunited fc!

Harry Maguire took to his Instagram page to celebrate being awarded Man of The Match vs Everton


Pepper dem geng

That Chris Kavanagh shouldn't be allowed to handle any game involving VARchester utd.

A fvcking disgrace. Ancelotti should appeal.

afrodoc2:

That was an obvious offside. Nigga was lying down in an offside position in the direct line of vision of the GK.

Elampiro was right. Some of una no know ball.

Howard Webb on Everton's disallowed goal:

“ Calvert lewin’s shot appears to go off target therefore it would be seen as an own goal from maguire and should stand”


I guess Howard Webb too no know ball. Na u and elamp sabi ball


Typical GGMUMU fan

CapitalCee:
Honestly, I know you people will say i talk too much about this issue, But, how can a GK earning 350k/ week will keep giving opponents head starts one too many times to cost us point.

Apart from today. The few i can remember are.

- Vs Same Everton when he misjudged a cross to let Lindelof score an own goal.

- Vs C.palace, we just equalised and few minutes remaining, he committed a howler to lose us the match at the death.

- Vs Watford, when he let a scoffed shot by Sarr.

He is 2nd behind Dubraska in errors leading to goal, how can we keep on putting up with this? The difference between making 4 and not making it are just fine margins, we lost top 4 to man city in 2016 on goal difference, that error vs palace that cost us 1 point, might just be difference. I love DDG very well but even when I try, i couldn't see him make jaw dropping saves, nowadays any shot in our post my mind fly, No team achieves anything with a GK who keep making errors. Lampard dropped a 70m keeper to play 40 year old Caballero, Klopp offloaded mignolet and Karius to win Champions league, Imagine is those 2 errors from Karius were prevented, Liverpool might have won the UCL instead of madrid, Imagine if Van der sar committed an error in our tensed final with Chelsea in Moscow. Barthez won the world cup came to United, after some errors fergie binned him for Tim Howard. 2 points, 1 points, 3 points dropped here and there due to errors or inability to keep out a routine shot, is costing us and will cost us dearly. Ole has make changes in the summer in the GK department.

Yes one can make mistakes, but its becoming a habit that for every 4 league or 5 league games he will drop a clanger. I can bet you that this will not be his last this season. For spain he knocked them out in Euros by allowing Chilienni to score, in the world cup same errors, play a normal shot and its a goal, no wonder he was dropped in spain. I can guarantee you that if either Kepa or DDG star for spain in the Euros they will not go far.

NB: i dont have any agenda against DDG he will go down as a legend probably, but he need to be dropped next season. He can stage a comeback but he mustn't be our undisputed number 1.

Sir Alex Ferguson always say that , for you to win trophies, your goalkeeper is an important part of it, because sometimes you will need your goal keeper to be the last man in defence.

That is why sir Alex usually don't usually waste time in binning goal keepers that commit too much errors, even though we usually have better defense line then that could still cover a goalkeeper, yet Baba doesn't joke with that department because I'm sure experience must have taught him how important it is

If Ole doesn't start dropping De gea for Romero in some EPL games so that he can have a reset, he will eventually cost Ole his job. Because my mind is telling me that if we don't make UCL next season, either by winning Europa or making Top 4, they will sack OGS.

because OGS reactions this days is looking like someone under pressure, unlike the beginning of the season that he always look relaxed no matter the result. it seems they've given him a target to meet

thorrvik55:
Harry Maguire took to his Instagram page to celebrate being awarded Man of The Match vs Everton


Pepper dem geng

Yeah Maguire was superb today, he has been for the past few matches

thorrvik55:

Howard Webb on Everton's disallowed goal:

“ Calvert lewin’s shot appears to go off target therefore it would be seen as an own goal from maguire and should stand”


I guess Howard Webb too no know ball. Na u and elamp sabi ball


Typical GGMUMU fan

I already said that call was made to placate United for the Fred yellow and the ensuing free kick.

Even if VAR was reviewing that goal to see Sigurdsson's role in the goal, the same VAR should have seen that Bisaka CLEARLY fouled him before which should have been a penalty.

afrodoc2:

That was an obvious offside. Nigga was lying down in an offside position in the direct line of vision of the GK.

Elampiro was right. Some of una no know ball.

Ball touch your player before going in and you still call it offside, how? Looks like it's not only medicine you don't know

timay:


Sir Alex Ferguson always say that , for you to win trophies, your goalkeeper is an important part of it, because sometimes you will need your goal keeper to be the last man in defence.

That is why sir Alex usually don't usually waste time in binning goal keepers that commit too much errors, even though we usually have better defense line then that could still cover a goalkeeper, yet Baba doesn't joke with that department because I'm sure experience must have taught him how important it is

If Ole doesn't start dropping De gea for Romero in some EPL games so that he can have a reset, he will eventually cost Ole his job. Because my mind is telling me that if we don't make UCL next season, either by winning Europa or making Top 4, they will sack OGS.

because OGS reactions this days is looking like someone under pressure, unlike the beginning of the season that he always look relaxed no matter the result. it seems they've given him a target to meet

De gea can't arrange a Wall for free kicks again self.....look at the rubbish he set up for Sigurdsson's freekick

Thanks to Maguire and Matic, we could have conceed at least 2 goals from those corners...

Degea needs to go abeg, ....he should be offloaded with Sanchez and Pogba, ....

Before the end of this month, De gea will make at least 2 errors

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He is very crucial to the goal in this situation. lyk very very,if he had not remove his legs, it wud av block d ball

I think Bailly should start ahead of Lindelof

thorrvik55:

Howard Webb on Everton's disallowed goal:

“ Calvert lewin’s shot appears to go off target therefore it would be seen as an own goal from maguire and should stand”


I guess Howard Webb too no know ball. Na u and elamp sabi ball


Typical GGMUMU fan

Where did Howard Webb say this?

BikeMan:
Ball touch your player before going in and you still call it offside, how? Looks like it's not only medicine you don't know

There was an interference that prevented the ball to be defended by the goalkeeper. The rule is tje rule.

DDG would have dived for it if not for interference.

De Gea should be binge please...... He's costing us a lot

I scanned the internet. Only one fake Howard Webb gave his opinion in a website where majority of verified posters said it was an offside. Except Howard Webb spoke on TV and has not be relayed yet on internet.

Meanwhile Roy Kean
....

Keane believes the right decision was made by the VAR officials but has criticised Sigurdsson for not getting out of the way quicker.

The Irishman does not think De Gea would have saved Calvert-Lewin’s shot if Sigurdsson was not in the way.


“I don’t think [De Gea] would have [saved it], but I do think they got to the right decision, I have to say,” Keane said on Sky Sports.

“I think because sometimes it’s so late in the game and it’s going to be the winning goal people are even a bit more emotional than normal.

“But I’d be annoyed with Sigurdsson for not getting out of the way. He sits there, please tell me what he’s waiting for.

“You’ve got to try and clear the area, that’s just a bit of common sense . I think it’s the right decision.

“Listen, I can see why Everton of course are disappointed but it’s the correct call .

“Why he is waiting? What is he waiting for? Disappointed? But you’ve got to get up and get out of the way, even make an attempt to get back on goal.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1249466/Man-Utd-news-Roy-Keane-Everton-Gylfi-Sigurdsson-disallowed-goal/amp

elampiro:
Meanwhile Roy Kean
....

Keane believes the right decision was made by the VAR officials but has criticised Sigurdsson for not getting out of the way quicker.

The Irishman does not think De Gea would have saved Calvert-Lewin’s shot if Sigurdsson was not in the way.


“I don’t think [De Gea] would have [saved it], but I do think they got to the right decision, I have to say,” Keane said on Sky Sports.

“I think because sometimes it’s so late in the game and it’s going to be the winning goal people are even a bit more emotional than normal.

“But I’d be annoyed with Sigurdsson for not getting out of the way. He sits there, please tell me what he’s waiting for.

“You’ve got to try and clear the area, that’s just a bit of common sense . I think it’s the right decision.

“Listen, I can see why Everton of course are disappointed but it’s the correct call .

“Why he is waiting? What is he waiting for? Disappointed? But you’ve got to get up and get out of the way, even make an attempt to get back on goal.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1249466/Man-Utd-news-Roy-Keane-Everton-Gylfi-Sigurdsson-disallowed-goal/amp

Quoting Roy Keane (a united legend) and ZERO expert in refereeing or interpreting rules does not solidify your argument.

elampiro:


There was an interference that prevented the ball to be defended by the goalkeeper. The rule is tje rule.

DDG would have dived for it if not for interference.

Clearly you see that De Gea was aiming for Calvert-Lewin's initial shot, Maguire confused him, not Sigurdsson.

elampiro:


There was an interference that prevented the ball to be defended by the goalkeeper. The rule is tje rule.

DDG would have dived for it if not for interference.

Not only does this image actually nullify your point, it is completely and absolutely untrue that DDG would have made a move for the deflected ball.

Don't forget, the ball was deflected by Maguire and DDG had set himself to dive towards his right end. All that happened was exactly what happens to every keeper when the ball changes direction. They are caught flat-footed.

Sigurdsson is clearly not influencing the play in anyway since Maguire changed the direction of the ball to his (Gylfi's) own path.

Get the gif version of the chance and be objective. Please.

Leyqute:
Is De Gea deliberately making these mistakes? Cos I don’t understand...

He made one error today and made up for it with the saves in the second half.

BikeMan:
Clearly you see that De Gea was aiming for Calvert-Lewin's initial shot, Maguire confused him, not Sigurdsson.

No, DeGea made an attempt to dive from the VAR review, but hesitated in anticipation of a diversion when the ball hits Sigurdson.

Nevertheless, the rules did not say if the keeper was making a dive or not, but when there is an action obstructing the keeper's decision

Eruditor:


Not only does this image actually nullify your point, it is completely and absolutely untrue that DDG would have made a move for the deflected ball.

Don't forget, the ball was deflected by Maguire and DDG had set himself to dive towards his right end. All that happened was exactly what happens to every keeper when the ball changes direction. They are caught flat-footed.

Sigurdsson is clearly not influencing the play in anyway since Maguire changed the direction of the ball to his (Gylfi's) own path.

Get the gif version of the chance and be objective. Please.

The image and what I saw from VAR show that DDG was going to dive but hesitated in anticipation of a deflection when the ball hits Sigurdson.

Overall, the rules are clear. Sidgurdson was too close to the ball. That alone is enough. His action also affected the decision of the goalkeeper.

larride:


He made one error today and made up for it with the saves in the second half.

Is that not why he's been paid?? Today's error was just avoidable and unnecessary. He created the tension and placed pressure on his team mates.

larride:


He made one error today and made up for it with the saves in the second half.

He made error and made up for it Really? So in a Champions league final, Keepers should gift the opponents an early goal and then make up for it letter in the match? How about making no errors at all and protecting his teams lead with saves? Nna na wa for una oo, una can defendddd. Let it be the usual easy scapegoats, then Ed most make him no 1 on transfer list, but for DDG and co, we must find excuse, just like pool fans were heaping blames on Loveren for yesterday's trashing when all the goals clearly went through VVD

Eruditor:


Quoting Roy Keane (a united legend) and ZERO expert in refereeing or interpreting rules does not solidify your argument.

The Premier League have moved quickly to clarify why Everton's late goal against Manchester United was disallowed.

Dominic Calvert-Lewin put the ball in the back of the net via a deflection and for a brief moment thought he had won all three points for his side.


But the goal was chalked off due to Gylfi Sigurdsson's positioning. The playmaker had been wiped out in the build up and was lying on the turf in front of David de Gea . Sigurdsson moved his legs to let the ball go into the back of the net but it was deemed that he had directly impacted the United shot-stopper's ability to make a save.

The Premier League statement read: "In the 91st minute of Everton v Manchester United, Dominic Calvert-Lewin’s goal was disallowed following a VAR Review for an offside offence against Gylfi Sigurdsson

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/sport/premier-league-statement-explains-everton-21611578.amp