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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:59pm On Mar 01, 2020 |
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:01pm On Mar 01, 2020 |
Another former referee says it was a right call. And he says from 'this angle you can see DeGea trying to go for the ball but...' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeyqeuTgrJ8 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:03pm On Mar 01, 2020 |
adebayo201: Dont mind him, check the number of games Liverpool won by 1 goal margin, so Allison would have allowed a goal in those matches and made a save to atone for the errors |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:08pm On Mar 01, 2020 |
afrodoc2:A clear offside, surprised that Larride is on the other side. Maybe it's the frustration of watching us drop points that's the issue here. At some point, I wanted Everton to score. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 10:52pm On Mar 01, 2020 |
elampiro: The ball was deflected to his own path it was not in his path when it left Lewin's foot. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:54pm On Mar 01, 2020 |
Eruditor: This one no concern rule. The ball was on his path while going into the net. That is the issue. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:54pm On Mar 01, 2020 |
CapitalCee: We haven't gotten over his heroic contribution in the season the team finished 2nd behind Man City. If one suggests that he should be sold, it would seem that no one had his back when he struggled... I just tire ![]() Btw, Dean Henderson is around the corner... |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 11:00pm On Mar 01, 2020 |
elampiro: Everybody knows that barring something extremely flagrant like a foot stamp or some cynical foul, the EPL referees never countermand any decisions that any of their own make during a game. When the review was shown, VAR was checking for a touch from Sigurdsson. That is exactly what the replays kept checking for. We all saw it. All the angles started and stopped at checking if Gylfi made contact with the ball. He did not in any way. This excuse by the EPL is utter nonsense especially when you know that they would have given a corner kick had that ball not gone into the net. The only way Sigurdsson's position affects DDGs ability would be if Maguire had not touched the ball and it went towards Gylfi's path. That was not the case. Doubt it, bring the gif or a link showing the replays of that chance. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 11:02pm On Mar 01, 2020 |
Eruditor: Bros, rest na, what is your own sef? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 11:03pm On Mar 01, 2020 |
elampiro: It does. If the last touch comes from a United player, it cannot be offside. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 11:04pm On Mar 01, 2020 |
nitrogen: I am just making a case. I had zero stakes in the game. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 11:13pm On Mar 01, 2020 |
CapitalCee: Whatever makes you sleep at night bro. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 11:14pm On Mar 01, 2020 |
Eruditor: On one hand he say it’s obstruction, on another hand na offside. Let’s just enjoy the favor from VAR and move on abeg. 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 11:16pm On Mar 01, 2020 |
patrickmuf: How can it be offside when the ball never touch him? He made Zero contact with ball. He knew he was in an offside position and as such moved his leg away when the ball was rolling to his direction. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 11:18pm On Mar 01, 2020 |
adebayo201: Ehn go and tell them not to pay him because of the error then. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:20pm On Mar 01, 2020 |
How some people take pass WEAC sef? Mostly English comprehension. ![]() |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:22pm On Mar 01, 2020 |
Eruditor: This is not the rule. Premier League have even clarified this thing you people are still arguing. It is simple sense from the rules. This is something I knew since 2015. 6 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 11:22pm On Mar 01, 2020 |
2 more pages to go.... |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 2:07am On Mar 02, 2020 |
elampiro: It is possible to be a United fan and still be objective. A player on the floor cannot impair the vision of a standing keeper. Which even makes it more frivolous when you realize that DDG was initially moving towards the ball at the trajectory that Lewin kicked it. Which means DDG saw the ball. I agree that the ball deflected and caught him off guard. But who caused the ball to deflect? Maguire - DDGs own teammate. So it can never be offside as the player who was offside did not interfere with the play. I rest my case but just like when CFC fans defended the robbery against Ajax only to cry wolf against United, this decision could go against United when you need it the most. 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BenNash: 2:54am On Mar 02, 2020 |
[font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font] elampiro: Watch the video and stop relying on pictures. Degea made two steps to the right while that ball was on motion. Was about making the third step when the ball entered. No way he was going to save that. Even Ole said in his post match interview he wasn't sure Degea would be able to save that. My own problem is with VAR's inconsistency. I'm happy we got a draw but I've got mixed feelings about this. We've been getting it good from VAR's inconsistency the past 2 weeks but we're still not in that top 4. I'm really hoping at the point VAR's inconsistency is against us, it wouldn't be too costly for us. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BenNash: 2:58am On Mar 02, 2020 |
Eruditor: I didn't even see your comment before I made my post. That's the most worrying thing for me. I feel like with the way we're benefiting from these decisions, a time will come soon, these decisions will be against us and we won't be able to cry foul. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:04am On Mar 02, 2020 |
BikeMan: elampiro: I know ball pass you. I know Medicine pass you. Apart from riding bike and being an olodo what else are you good for, you this obtuse oxygen thief? ![]() 12 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:13am On Mar 02, 2020 |
larride: IFAB says if a player who is moving from or standing in an offside position is in the way of an opponent and interferes with the movement of the opponent towards the ball this is an offside offence. You don't have to make any movement to be in an offside position. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:15am On Mar 02, 2020 |
larride: You don't have to touch the ball to be offside. Honestly you need to go and read the rules instead of dropping this kind of excuse. 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristineC: 7:03am On Mar 02, 2020 |
let's not waste pages here please. I want to see actual game analysis. 1 Like
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:37am On Mar 02, 2020 |
BenNash: VAR was right on this based on the rules. Sugurdadon was too close to the ball. He was even in the direction of flow of the ball towards the goal and the goalkeeper was in goal. His movement or being there affected the goalkeeper's decision. DeGea was going to dive for the ball but anticipating a deflection he moved to his right, I saw that clearly from one of the angles from VAR which the retired ref also said in the video above. However, DeGea didn't have to be in a position to save the ball for the rules to apply. Nevertheless, who says DeGea with his sharp reflexes would not have saved that ball because he has made more serious saves. DeGaa himself told Ole that Sigurdson in that position distracted him |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 7:40am On Mar 02, 2020 |
ChristineC: Lol is that a pistol in Mona Lisa's hands? Is that why she had the mysterious smile? The problem was not the diamond formation itself but our lack of good full back play. When playing a diamond you need good overlapping full backs that will give the team width. One time crosses should be the rule, but yesterday we played with 2 full backs that like to kill the move first before trying to do something with the ball. Shaw tried to offer some width but he is not a natural going forward, but AWB in particular tucked in too much and did not offer the width that could have opened up the game more. Our 4 midfielders played well to varying levels, Lindelof was shaky as usual, and DDG is no longer indispensable. To be honest even though he is our most talented keeper he is our 3rd most consistent one. If he leaves i doubt he will be missed but i don't even think anybody will want to buy him for serious money at this time. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Swissh: 7:45am On Mar 02, 2020 |
elampiro:
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:46am On Mar 02, 2020 |
Eruditor: You are trying to make a personal judgement without applying the new offside rules. 1. Maguire deflecting the ball in error is not same as a back pass. Your explanation would hold if Maguire made a back pass to DeGea. Keeper are meant to treat defection as a direct shot from.an opponent. DeGea could have held the ball with his hands and not be penalised. But a back pass he cannot. So it is treated as a shot from an opponent. 2 . The major issue here is the ball travelling into the net. The goalkeeper didn't have to be judged to be able to save it for the rules to apply. The keeper only had to be there. 3. The rules says if the player offside is close to the ball. The proximity of the player offside to the ball also play a big role. In this case he was not only close but blocking the flow of the ball with the keeper unable to decide if to dive for the ball because a deflection was the first option. 4. This is not a matter of blind argument or being a United fan or Everton fan. The rules are there. An ex referee has analysed it. Premier League has confirmed the decision. 5. Sidgurdson presence there is correctly adjudged to have affected the goalkeeper's decision. That is same thing I said immediately after the match even before seeing any analysis. I knew the rules since 2015 6 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:55am On Mar 02, 2020 |
elampiro: This was my post yesterday after the match. I did not read any report or check any rules before I made this comment. It is what has been in my memory since reading the new offside rule in 2015. See an ex referee and the EPL saying same thing. 5 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Swissh: 8:03am On Mar 02, 2020 |
BikeMan:It's not surprising you don't know anything considering you are a Chelsea fan. The defender has to intentionally play the ball before the offside is ruled out. Scummies and Shekpites I don't know the worst fanbase. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:04am On Mar 02, 2020 |
I rest my case. You guys can argue with Premier League. 2 Likes
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