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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 12:34pm On Mar 02, 2020
vaxx1:
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There is a certain west African dictator who lives in Switzerland
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:34pm On Mar 02, 2020
kikuyu1:




REALLY? THE MFECANE WAS A WHITE MYTH TO JUSTIFY THEIR OWN LAND THEFT!?

Like most stupid book-smart people you have zero social skills;you don't know when to STFU OR EVEN NEVER BRING UP CERTAIN TOPICS!? Who and what were the Boer Inboekstel and Orlums?

Like de Klerk you've been trying hard to downplay and whitewash apartheid with deflection, irrelevancy,fake history and outright BS.
Mfecane is a white myth? ..... Lmao!!! grin grin grin grin is that seriously your rebuttal?..... Well since you believe in Reptillians, unicorns, black Nazis and what not I shouldn't be surprised by this response.

Just btw do you have any evidence that the mfecane is just a myth? Or are you just saying that since I destroyed your entire argument?

And AGAIN I never, and I'm not downplaying apartheid. Just stating that the atrocities committed by the Afrikaner were also committed by other Africans on Africans. The only reason we are arguing is because I said Boer people are African.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 1:13pm On Mar 02, 2020
jln115:

[s]Mfecane is a white myth? ..... Lmao!!! grin grin grin grin is that seriously your rebuttal?..... Well since you believe in Reptillians, unicorns, black Nazis and what not I shouldn't be surprised by this response.

Just btw do you have any evidence that the mfecane is just a myth? Or are you just saying that since I destroyed your entire argument?

And AGAIN I never, and I'm not downplaying apartheid. Just stating that the atrocities committed by the Afrikaner were also committed by other Africans on Africans. The only reason we are arguing is because I said Boer people are African. [/s]


You can't keep up with your own BS! You demanded:
Its Friday,the net never forgets! You were saying your people found SA empty and never took slaves-and denied all evidence to the contrary. That kind of ishyt is bleeping ANNOYING WHEN YOU JUSTIFY CRIMES LIKE DE KLERK.
Just quote were I said any of that wink..... Please I'm literally begging you
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You completely avoided the inboeskeling question. Are these not African child slaves taken by your Boers?

The system had its origin in the Cape Northern Frontier during the second half of the 18th century, when settlers would capture Khoi and San children, and force them to work as indentured labourers until adulthood.[3]

When Boer trekkers migrated into the Transvaal during the 1840s, they brought the inboekstelsel system with them.[4] Inboekelinge children were captured during raids, or handed over by their parents in return for land or goods.[1] In some cases they were sold to other burghers, in what became known as the trade in "black ivory".[
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inboekstelsel
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by JaceBlaze: 1:15pm On Mar 02, 2020
Kazikazi:
But what's wrong with someone like Wode Maya asking a simple question like.." Is south Africa a devided nation?.

I think a wise man should just answer him yes or no and give reasons.But when you see a guy start mentioning Kenya,Ghana,Nigeria and say those nations lack hospitals after being in freedom for 6 decades,that isn't cool at all.

So,don't tell me to put in their shoes.which shoes anyhow?
Is SA the only nation to host foreigners? Of course not.I think most SAns are too defensive,they don't wanna hear any type criticism from African brothers,but its strange when they don't want even to be asked a simple question!
Kaz! It's not that the people are defensive.I don't speak for everyone but I speak for most,and the truth is most SAcans don't bother with with the affairs of the rest of the continent and I can understand why they feel they should be left alone.Look at it this way Kaz,imagine you are that person that always stay out of other people's affairs to mind your own yet the whole community keep poking their noses into yours,that will drive you nuts won't it?

Criticism from who? lol since we talking division,race relations and whatnot,in YOUR eyes,which African country is qualified to give South Africans a tutelage on unity? we must learn to put out the fire in our burning houses before we act all holy and rushing to the aid of someone else.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 1:19pm On Mar 02, 2020
Shma:
88 condominium is currently under construction. Ooh, sorry, it's slated to begin construction on June this year after court approval. Ground breaking was long time done and all materials needed have started to be ferried on the site.

We really need to learn to move ASAP! We're too comfortable wasting time on BS and our litiginous society doesn't help. The low cost housing kick off was delayed by 6 months,IIRC cause of this mentality.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AmenhotepZuid: 1:28pm On Mar 02, 2020
@Kikuyu
bro stop waiting time with Jl115, hes 100% BLACK AND NEGROID, he is not boer or afrikaner. for starters the guy knows fokol/nothing about SA HISTORY.

As I said hes a northerner either from Limpopo or Zim, surely hes not black SA or even coloured or boer.
. Lastly I have a book about the Mfecane wars myth and agree its a MYTH.


jln115:

Mfecane is a white myth? ..... Lmao!!! grin grin grin grin is that seriously your rebuttal?..... Well since you believe in Reptillians, unicorns, black Nazis and what not I shouldn't be surprised by this response.


Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by JaceBlaze: 1:30pm On Mar 02, 2020
kikuyu1:




REALLY? THE MFECANE WAS A WHITE MYTH TO JUSTIFY THEIR OWN LAND THEFT!?
We're learning...our honourable Prof. kikuyu.Thank you for imparting this arcane history that was long hidden from us laymen.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 1:44pm On Mar 02, 2020
JaceBlaze:

We're learning...our honourable Prof. kikuyu.Thank you for imparting this arcane history that was long hidden from us laymen.

This dude is actually annoying! Being book smart he assumes he can obfuscate facts by bamboozling us with BS! Tbh,he should've been called out wayyy earlier but people are obviously too caught up with their redundant exchanges. Look at these child slaves!

We often learned about the laws introduced in Europe in the 18th century allowing Europeans to hunt and capture Africans and force them into unpaid labour – in plantations and domestic economies. But we never learned of the laws that allowed the Trekkers or Boer society to hunt and capture Africans into enslavement right here in Southern Africa.
https://sebatakgomo./2017/08/26/the-hidden-truths-of-the-capture-and-enslavement-of-african-children-by-the-boer-society-1845-1880/

And the nigga insists Boers didn't keep slaves!?

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AmenhotepZuid: 1:44pm On Mar 02, 2020
@Kikuyu1
There are books in Cape Town Library and universities that show that afrikaners/boers are mainly EUROASIANS. There are books with A-Z List of afrikaners surnames and their origins/family.

Example books like these below.....

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AmenhotepZuid: 1:48pm On Mar 02, 2020
@Kikuyu at some point the europeans and their slaves from asia and madagascar lived in one corner of SA.

Those are maps showing the VOC era and the British era...before 1820 the were NO EUROPEANS inland of SA. FACT.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by IronGalaxy: 1:49pm On Mar 02, 2020
Kazikazi:
You are repeating the same thing over and over again.Let me put it this way..
You have more good foreigners than the bad ones.
Foreigners are less likely to commit crimes in SA than the locals
Foreigners are less likely to talk trash about SA than your own folks
There is no country in the world which is not criticized
The biggest enemy of a SAns is the other SAns not a foreigner
The major problems facing SA today are from within,not external

Wode Maya asked," is south Africa a devided nation?'.
That's not talking trash.
Stop saying you are a country of firsts. If you love your SA,stop trying to give yourself false praises of " a country of firsts"

Kenyans used the same term of " country of first". What happened next was disasters...They ended being...
First in starvation
First having a big slum
First having locusts in EAC
First in big debts in EAC
First in tribalism in EAC
Pwahapwapwa grin
Africans are fond of talking trash about my country argue this till you turn blue, saying everyone is criticised does not negate that fact.

When did I say Wode Maya talked trash? I merely said his journalism was lazy, of which it is. I mean come on! the person who was driving him around and telling him about the country was not even South African, can you go to China and the tour guide is Indian? Does that Indian know more about China than the Chinese themselves?


And yes we are a country of firsts, again argue this till you turn beige blue since you're fond of arguing for arguing sakes.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by JaceBlaze: 1:56pm On Mar 02, 2020
kikuyu1:


This dude is actually annoying! Being book smart he assumes he can obfuscate facts by bamboozling us with BS! Tbh,he should've been called out wayyy earlier but people are obviously too caught up with their redundant exchanges. Look at these child slaves!


https://sebatakgomo./2017/08/26/the-hidden-truths-of-the-capture-and-enslavement-of-african-children-by-the-boer-society-1845-1880/

And the nigga insists Boers didn't keep slaves!?
grin grin This is why I love it here.Keep exposing the frauds with your superior knowledge of esoteric history.Without you I never would have known that mfecane is just a fable...I'm truly honoured.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 1:58pm On Mar 02, 2020
Can Mombasa ever be like this ?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufgq0O5eJwo

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AmenhotepZuid: 1:58pm On Mar 02, 2020
Here is a maternal and parternal DNA of the socalled Cape Coloureds...The afrikaners ancestors came mainly from the EAST/ASIA and Europe not Africa.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 1:59pm On Mar 02, 2020
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 2:02pm On Mar 02, 2020
68816419:
Can Mombasa ever be like this ?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufgq0O5eJwo

Mombasa will never want to be like Lagos

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AmenhotepZuid: 2:03pm On Mar 02, 2020
The 1st slaves at the Cape came from Asia and Madagascar in 1653 around 11 souls and then later in 1658 slaves came from Angola (500 slaves) and Benin 124 people some of these were transhipped to Asia only remained at the Cape. Most West African slaves DIED OUT DUE TO COLD WEATHER AT THE CAPE only few who survived were ANGOLANS. That forced VOC to import slaves from EAST AFRICA (mainly Madagascar) AND ASIA. As you can see on that graph slave population dropped in 1658 from 404 to 32.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AmenhotepZuid: 2:06pm On Mar 02, 2020
West African slaves from the BIGHT OF BENIN were known for being SUBMISSIVE to Europeans hence the Yorubas, Fon, Chamba, Hausa these were known as HOUSE NEGROES. They didn't cut it at the Cape DIED OUT and the surviving few resold to Indonasia . grin grin grin

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 2:07pm On Mar 02, 2020
JaceBlaze:
grin grin This is why I love it here.Keep exposing the frauds with your superior knowledge of esoteric history.Without you I never would have known that mfecane is just a fable...I'm truly honoured.

Glad you like it! early on I realised learning never stops-I'm a perpetual journeyer after the truth! This Boer slavery issue is worse than I thought. It wasn't just Khoisan and/or Griquas but even Bapedis and Swazis to the tune of thousands though the SAR destroyed records. (I'm shocked-NOT!?)
https://www.jstor.org/stable/3601632?seq=1

From the first link:
Soon the Boer society established a new form of trade; they traded in these African children.
As the Ohrigstad settlers’ demands for labour grew so was the demand for child captives. This kind of business became a booming business in the first 10 years of its legalization
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 2:12pm On Mar 02, 2020
tylann:

Mombasa will never want to be like Lagos
why?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by JaceBlaze: 2:16pm On Mar 02, 2020
IronGalaxy:
Africans are fond of talking trash about my country argue this till you turn blue, saying everyone is criticised does not negate that fact.

When did I say Wode Maya talked trash? I merely said his journalism was lazy, of which it is. I mean come on! the person who was driving him around and telling him about the country was not even South African, can you go to China and the tour guide is Indian? Does that Indian know more about China than the Chinese themselves?


And yes we are a country of firsts, again argue this till you turn beige blue since you're fond of arguing for arguing sakes.



That Wode Maya guy is a journalist? now I get where the misinformation about xenophobia stems from.A guy lands in South Africa today and tomorrow he is an expert in all things South Africa.The guy stood in the middle of the streets for two minutes and when he didn't see black people he just concluded that non lives there lol

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AmenhotepZuid: 2:16pm On Mar 02, 2020
@Kikuyu the 1st farmers at STELLENBOSCH (1679-1692) of today were SLAVES from ANGOLA AND ASIA not Europeans. Infact STELLENBOSCH AREA was created by SIMON VAN DER STEL AND JAN VAN RIEBEECK as a NON WHITE COLONY for slaves while the Cape cbd was mainly for VOC officials. Angolans and Bengalis(bangladeshis), Sri Lankans farmed in Stellenbosch producing food for VOC from 1679-1692 long before the arrival of french huguenots in 1685.

during apartheid stellenbosch was known as a FAKE WHITE(Boer) enclave grin grin grin grin they DENIED, HIDDEN etc...the history of that area.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 2:16pm On Mar 02, 2020
68816419:

why?

Why would it want to be like Lagos?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by JaceBlaze: 2:19pm On Mar 02, 2020
kikuyu1:


Glad you like it! early on I realised learning never stops-I'm a perpetual journeyer after the truth! This Boer slavery issue is worse than I thought. It wasn't just Khoisan and/or Griquas but even Bapedis and Swazis to the tune of thousands though the SAR destroyed records. (I'm shocked-NOT!?)
https://www.jstor.org/stable/3601632?seq=1

From the first link:
cheesy cheesy

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AmenhotepZuid: 2:23pm On Mar 02, 2020
The term KAFFIR/CAFFER in SA traces its roots to CAPE SLAVERy where slaves from other parts of Africa were called KAFFIRS. VRY CAFFER Evert van Guinea example free KAFFIR EVERT OF GUINEA/Benin grin grin grin grin Muslim slaves from ASIA called black African slaves from Angola, Benin (died out), Mozambique, Mombasa, Comoros etc..KAFFIRS because these people weren't muslim this term spreaded to other parts of SA later and was used by boers. grin grin grin

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AmenhotepZuid: 2:28pm On Mar 02, 2020
Another LIE in afrikaans/boers history they will never mention that blacks and coloureds fought alongside British and boers during the ANGLO BOER WAR where the mighty Brits CRUSHED the HALFSLAGS/MIXED BREEDS UNPURE BAAS-TARDS who still reason like MULES today.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 2:28pm On Mar 02, 2020
68816419:

why?

Because we don't want to be underperfoming
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AmenhotepZuid: 2:32pm On Mar 02, 2020
this map shows how they stole land from Africans...

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AmenhotepZuid: 2:38pm On Mar 02, 2020
The boers were ILLITERATE, RURAL, POOR, useless lazy and drunkards during SA INDUSTRIAL ERA 1875-1931....They must thank Cecil John Rhodes a Brit who felt sorry for them and allowed a racist rule afterwards.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AmenhotepZuid: 2:39pm On Mar 02, 2020
that useless race of bastards must thank the Brits.... grin grin grin

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 2:40pm On Mar 02, 2020
tylann:

Because we don't want to be underperfoming

u called dis "Under-performing" ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufgq0O5eJwo
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AmenhotepZuid: 2:43pm On Mar 02, 2020
@Problemkid
Listen here KAFFIR VAN NEGGERIA heres the truth about the zoo.... grin grin grin

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