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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 5:44pm On Mar 04, 2020
Kbs468:
Our game vs Manchester City has been rescheduled for next Wednesday March 11th oooooo

At the Etihad 8:30 pm on the dot
hoping we get at worst 4points..
If man u can beat man city at their ground, why can't we?? tongue tongue

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 6:15pm On Mar 04, 2020
Jodera:
You're not a true fanz o grin grin
That team that can't beat olympiakos
Better brace yourself for Capital L
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 6:17pm On Mar 04, 2020
Kbs468:

You never can tell because we could pull off a good Draw you know
well we can get this hopefully

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 6:24pm On Mar 04, 2020
iamoyindamola:
That team that can't beat olympiakos
Better brace yourself for Capital L
Last time I checked, football no be mathematics.
Tho, I'm expecting any result tho, but I'm not brazenly expecting an L
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 6:30pm On Mar 04, 2020
Jodera:
Last time I checked, football no be mathematics.
Tho, I'm expecting any result tho, but I'm not brazenly expecting an L
it's will end in tears grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 7:34pm On Mar 04, 2020
iamoyindamola:
it's will end in tears grin
grin grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 7:35pm On Mar 04, 2020
Jodera:
hoping we get at worst 4points..
If man u can beat man city at their ground, why can't we?? tongue tongue
4 points bawo?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 7:37pm On Mar 04, 2020
Roland17:

4 points bawo?
I think he's talking about our next 2 games
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 7:38pm On Mar 04, 2020
Roland17:

4 points bawo?
yes na. 3points against west ham, 1point against man city.
It's achievable
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 7:40pm On Mar 04, 2020
iamoyindamola:
I think he's talking about our next 2 games
Yes bro...thanks
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 7:40pm On Mar 04, 2020
Jodera:
yes na. 3points against west ham, 1point against man city.
It's achievable

I did not realize you were speaking about 2 games.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 7:41pm On Mar 04, 2020
Roland17:


I did not realize you were speaking about 2 games.
Yeah, I made that comment cos Kbs posted our next two matches and their times
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 10:05pm On Mar 04, 2020
Jodera:
yes na. 3points against west ham, 1point against man city.
It's achievable
we can beat City with the right lineup

More over we are no longer in Europe we should go full throttle on the league no excuses.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 12:55am On Mar 05, 2020
FA Cup Quarter Final

Sheffield United V Arsenal
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 6:13am On Mar 05, 2020
kokaneprodigy:
we can beat City with the right lineup

More over we are no longer in Europe we should go full throttle on the league no excuses.

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 6:36am On Mar 05, 2020
kokaneprodigy:
we can beat City with the right lineup

More over we are no longer in Europe we should go full throttle on the league no excuses.
We can beat city... But then, it's etihad. That's the factor I'm looking at.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 7:39am On Mar 05, 2020
Fkhalifa:

grin wetin Happen
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 9:17am On Mar 05, 2020
kokaneprodigy:
grin wetin Happen

Alaye when u turn sisi quadri with this ur (f) grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 9:31am On Mar 05, 2020
BlueRayDick:


Alaye when u turn sisi quadri with this ur (f) grin
I no understand the guy again angry
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 9:56am On Mar 05, 2020
BlueRayDick:


You don't get it. Xhaka is only playing that makeshift Auxilliary LB role because that's like the only use he seem to have due to his weakness in core Midfield.8

Just look at any of the top 5 to 6 teams in the league and point out any of them that adopts this pattern of play that involves the DM/CM shuttling between the middle and LB position. To me, this pattern that involves Xhaka deputizing for Saka each time the latter attacks is only adopted to manage the shortage of manpower in the two roles. I mean we have an inexperienced youngster playing out of position in LB, and a Physical DM that has not played the DM role as it is required.

Arteta is only doing what a football manager is expected to do; MANAGE!

Just like I pointed out, when we have Tiernney back and probably a backup LB to replaced Kolasinac, we should sell off Xhaka and buy a proper DM. Xhaka is far from being a proper DM and should not be used as an Auxilary LB if and when we have a LB that can be trusted to do his LB job.

You won't find Ndidi, Fabinho, Kante, Mctominay and even Eric Dier playing Auxiliary LB when there is enough battle to be won in the middle of the park.

Bros your point is not valid. Midfielders covering FBs have been employed for long with many successful teams including current top4 in EPL.

You have not taken your time to watch, I know you are smart. Kindly refer to Football Made Simple on YouTube for tactical analysis.

Kante covers Alonso (remember Martinelli goal Vs Chelsea?)
Fenandihno drops into CB to a 3man defence as both FBs for City push up.
Henderson or Fabinho covers Trent Alexander Arnold or Robertson (as the case may be) for Liverpool as Saah and Mane tuck into forward position.

This tactic is widely used and known to be effective. It adds more bodies in attack when a team is with the ball.

So Arteta's use of Xhaka as an auxiliary LB is not out of place and only shows how tactically flexible the player is. Xhaka even drops to CB when we are defending and LB when we are attacking.

There is a reason why Xhaka has always been on the first team since his U17 days in Nigeria for Switzerland to his time at FC Basel, to Borrusia Mgb , and Arsenal all under Wenger, Emery and now Arteta.

He may not be the super star midfield maestro, but he does bring value to his team. You can wish for Partey but don't underestimate Xhaka.

Cc Fkhalifa

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jencejyde(m): 10:36am On Mar 05, 2020
Spy360:

Bros your point is not valid. Midfielders covering FBs have been employed for long with many successful teams including current top4 in EPL.

You have not taken your time to watch, I know you are smart. Kindly refer to Football Made Simple on YouTube for tactical analysis.

Kante covers Alonso (remember Martinelli goal Vs Chelsea?)
Fenandihno drops into CB to a 3man defence as both FBs for City push up.
Henderson or Fabinho covers Trent Alexander Arnold or Robertson (as the case may be) for Liverpool as Saah and Mane tuck into forward position.

This tactic is widely used and known to be effective. It adds more bodies in attack when a team is with the ball.

So Arteta's use of Xhaka as an auxiliary LB is not out of place and only shows how tactically flexible the player is. Xhaka even drops to CB when we are defending and LB when we are attacking.

There is a reason why Xhaka has always been on the first team since his U17 days in Nigeria for Switzerland to his time at FC Basel, to Borrusia Mgb , and Arsenal all under Wenger, Emery and now Arteta.

He may not be the super star midfield maestro, but he does bring value to his team. You can wish for Partey but don't underestimate Xhaka.

Cc Fkhalifa

Spot On!
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 11:42am On Mar 05, 2020
Spy360:

Bros your point is not valid. Midfielders covering FBs have been employed for long with many successful teams including current top4 in EPL.

You have not taken your time to watch, I know you are smart. Kindly refer to Football Made Simple on YouTube for tactical analysis.

Kante covers Alonso (remember Martinelli goal Vs Chelsea?)
Fenandihno drops into CB to a 3man defence as both FBs for City push up.
Henderson or Fabinho covers Trent Alexander Arnold or Robertson (as the case may be) for Liverpool as Saah and Mane tuck into forward position.

This tactic is widely used and known to be effective. It adds more bodies in attack when a team is with the ball.

So Arteta's use of Xhaka as an auxiliary LB is not out of place and only shows how tactically flexible the player is. Xhaka even drops to CB when we are defending and LB when we are attacking.

There is a reason why Xhaka has always been on the first team since his U17 days in Nigeria for Switzerland to his time at FC Basel, to Borrusia Mgb , and Arsenal all under Wenger, Emery and now Arteta.

He may not be the super star midfield maestro, but he does bring value to his team. You can wish for Partey but don't underestimate Xhaka.

Cc Fkhalifa

Everybody knows Xhaka starting at Arsenal has always been about his physical presence and Long ball ability(Which David Luiz presently looks better at it than him).

I don't know if we do watch the same matches, but equating Xhaka's role in that Auxilary left back position to what a short Kante does to cover for a tall Alonso when a corner is being taken in an opposition is just not it.

You are talking about Fernandinho , when last did he even start as a DM?

Nobody is saying Xhaka role as an auxilary LB is out of place considering the limited choice of options at his disposal, however it will be unwise if Arteta continues to use him in that role after the close of the next transfer window instead of buying a decent DM who can play his primary role well enough.

Xhaka thus far under Arteta is not well known for what he does in his primary role (DM), rather for what he plays in an auxilary LB role.

My concern is when we have our experienced LB's fit and there is no need for the Auxillary LB experiment anymore, trusting Xhaka with that DM role he hasn't really excelled at will be our bane. So I will prefer he is sold, get a proper DM that does his job well enough and let's have peace of mind in that position instead of always praying he doesn't slide an opposition player in front of the box each time he goes into a tackle.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 11:56am On Mar 05, 2020
iamoyindamola:
I no understand the guy again angry
BlueRayDick:


Alaye when u turn sisi quadri with this ur (f) grin
Make una face una work ooo
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 12:42pm On Mar 05, 2020
BlueRayDick:


Everybody knows Xhaka starting at Arsenal has always been about his physical presence and Long ball ability(Which David Luiz presently looks better at it than him).

I don't know if we do watch the same matches, but equating Xhaka's role in that Auxilary left back position to what a short Kante does to cover for a tall Alonso when a corner is being taken in an opposition is just not it.

You are talking about Fernandinho , when last did he even start as a DM?

Nobody is saying Xhaka role as an auxilary LB is out of place considering the limited choice of options at his disposal, however it will be unwise if Arteta continues to use him in that role after the close of the next transfer window instead of buying a decent DM who can play his primary role well enough.

Xhaka thus far under Arteta is not well known for what he does in his primary role (DM), rather for what he plays in an auxilary LB role.

My concern is when we have our experienced LB's fit and there is no need for the Auxillary LB experiment anymore, trusting Xhaka with that DM role he hasn't really excelled at will be our bane. So I will prefer he is sold, get a proper DM that does his job well enough and let's have peace of mind in that position instead of always praying he doesn't slide an opposition player in front of the box each time he goes into a tackle.
gbam
Xhaka aka Anywhere belle face grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 12:46pm On Mar 05, 2020
BlueRayDick:


Everybody knows Xhaka starting at Arsenal has always been about his physical presence and Long ball ability(Which David Luiz presently looks better at it than him).

I don't know if we do watch the same matches, but equating Xhaka's role in that Auxilary left back position to what a short Kante does to cover for a tall Alonso when a corner is being taken in an opposition is just not it.

You are talking about Fernandinho , when last did he even start as a DM?

Nobody is saying Xhaka role as an auxilary LB is out of place considering the limited choice of options at his disposal, however it will be unwise if Arteta continues to use him in that role after the close of the next transfer window instead of buying a decent DM who can play his primary role well enough.

Xhaka thus far under Arteta is not well known for what he does in his primary role (DM), rather for what he plays in an auxilary LB role.

My concern is when we have our experienced LB's fit and there is no need for the Auxillary LB experiment anymore, trusting Xhaka with that DM role he hasn't really excelled at will be our bane. So I will prefer he is sold, get a proper DM that does his job well enough and let's have peace of mind in that position instead of always praying he doesn't slide an opposition player in front of the box each time he goes into a tackle.
What I get from you is that despite the role Xhaka plays for us, he isn't as good as expected.

I see you don't like Xhaka and it is quite understood. Everyone has their player preferences including the managers. One man's meat they say is anothers poison.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 1:57pm On Mar 05, 2020
Spy360:

Bros your point is not valid. Midfielders covering FBs have been employed for long with many successful teams including current top4 in EPL.

You have not taken your time to watch, I know you are smart. Kindly refer to Football Made Simple on YouTube for tactical analysis.

Kante covers Alonso (remember Martinelli goal Vs Chelsea?)
Fenandihno drops into CB to a 3man defence as both FBs for City push up.
Henderson or Fabinho covers Trent Alexander Arnold or Robertson (as the case may be) for Liverpool as Saah and Mane tuck into forward position.

This tactic is widely used and known to be effective. It adds more bodies in attack when a team is with the ball.

So Arteta's use of Xhaka as an auxiliary LB is not out of place and only shows how tactically flexible the player is. Xhaka even drops to CB when we are defending and LB when we are attacking.

There is a reason why Xhaka has always been on the first team since his U17 days in Nigeria for Switzerland to his time at FC Basel, to Borrusia Mgb , and Arsenal all under Wenger, Emery and now Arteta.

He may not be the super star midfield maestro, but he does bring value to his team. You can wish for Partey but don't underestimate Xhaka.

Cc Fkhalifa
Covering for defenders are basics most deep midfielders do, but the main job as seen with Alex Song,Axel Witsel,T.partey et Al is what is lacking..

Too one dimensional, one footed,no techniques, styles, sharpness and surprise element..

Yes, he's been OKAY, he may look better in orther leagues, but to move up with the top best in England, We need to upgrade to a better deep midfielder.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 2:01pm On Mar 05, 2020
BlueRayDick:


Alaye when u turn sisi quadri with this ur (f) grin

iamoyindamola:
I no understand the guy again angry

Him don join bad gang! I think say na only me see am sef...
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Kbs468(m): 2:29pm On Mar 05, 2020
Roland17:
FA Cup Quarter Final

Sheffield United V Arsenal
Yes between March 20-23 this month.

I fear the game oooo since it's away from the Emirates stadium
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 2:44pm On Mar 05, 2020
Fkhalifa:

Covering for defenders are basics most deep midfielders do, but the main job as seen with Alex Song,Axel Witsel,T.partey et Al is what is lacking..

Too one dimensional, one footed,no techniques, styles, sharpness and surprise element..

Yes, he's been OKAY, he may look better in other leagues, but to move up with the top best in England, We need to upgrade to a better deep midfielder.


God Bless you!

Playing DM in Bundesliga is totally different from playing DM in a physical and faster league like EPL. We shouldn't be caught still managing Xhaka even after one full transfer window. I mean look at Manure utd, they knew they are not going anywhere if they keep managing Matic and the rest in the middle and they opted for Bruno, see how they are quickly transiting defence to attack ASAP
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 6:16pm On Mar 05, 2020
Fkhalifa:

Covering for defenders are basics most deep midfielders do, but the main job as seen with Alex Song,Axel Witsel,T.partey et Al is what is lacking..

Too one dimensional, one footed,no techniques, styles, sharpness and surprise element..

Yes, he's been OKAY, he may look better in orther leagues, but to move up with the top best in England, We need to upgrade to a better deep midfielder.

...
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 6:33pm On Mar 05, 2020
Fkhalifa:

Covering for defenders are basics most deep midfielders do, but the main job as seen with Alex Song,Axel Witsel,T.partey et Al is what is lacking..

Too one dimensional, one footed,no techniques, styles, sharpness and surprise element..

Yes, he's been OKAY, he may look better in orther leagues, but to move up with the top best in England, We need to upgrade to a better deep midfielder.

If he's been okay as you stated, that ends the discussion, because talking about upgrading, every player that is not named Messi or Ronaldo can be upgraded.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by tintedniggz(m): 7:26pm On Mar 05, 2020
Spy360:

Bros your point is not valid. Midfielders covering FBs have been employed for long with many successful teams including current top4 in EPL.

You have not taken your time to watch, I know you are smart. Kindly refer to Football Made Simple on YouTube for tactical analysis.

Kante covers Alonso (remember Martinelli goal Vs Chelsea?)
Fenandihno drops into CB to a 3man defence as both FBs for City push up.
Henderson or Fabinho covers Trent Alexander Arnold or Robertson (as the case may be) for Liverpool as Saah and Mane tuck into forward position.

This tactic is widely used and known to be effective. It adds more bodies in attack when a team is with the ball.

So Arteta's use of Xhaka as an auxiliary LB is not out of place and only shows how tactically flexible the player is. Xhaka even drops to CB when we are defending and LB when we are attacking.

There is a reason why Xhaka has always been on the first team since his U17 days in Nigeria for Switzerland to his time at FC Basel, to Borrusia Mgb , and Arsenal all under Wenger, Emery and now Arteta.

He may not be the super star midfield maestro, but he does bring value to his team. You can wish for Partey but don't underestimate Xhaka.

Cc Fkhalifa
You summations are on point!

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