Efewestern:


Funnily, I'm a Christian, so are some of my pals on here, most Nigerians just believe anything they tell them without any critical reasoning.

Counter them and they go the religious way. What a pity.

You are a truly unique person,many Nigeria are too lazy to verify any information that come their way,and when you try to correct them,they throw insults at you.

Caseless:
hasn't US enslaved everyone? Why should they have all the power to determine who breathes?

Would you rather have Iran wield such power the U.S currently command? Answer carefully.

ranmoor:

It's either plain mockery or Trojan horse. Even the US has been criticised lately of not well prepared for the outbreak and Trump cutting CDC funds.

They should contain their problem first, after they should assist their allies like Korea and Italy.

Please, the aid is all about fundings. USA as we all know is capable of catering for itself and it's citizens. So are you saying you being Iran's president will ignore a helping hand and allow your citizens to be deminished with foreseen death...?

ranmoor:

It's either plain mockery or Trojan horse. Even the US has been criticised lately of not well prepared for the outbreak and Trump cutting CDC funds.

They should contain their problem first, after they should assist their allies like Korea and Italy.

If it's not hate, then iran would've accept the offer. For example. Hiroshima was bombed by the usa of which thousands died, yet they accept usa hand of aid but just only sanction and killing of a general then you wont accept, well thats hate or a sign for revenge..!!! In opinion per say.

Eborty:
If it's not hate, then iran would've accept the offer. For example. Hiroshima was bombed by the usa of which thousands died, yet they accept usa hand of aid but just only sanction and killing of a general then you wont accept, well thats hate or a sign for revenge..!!! In opinion per say.

You should understand nothing is free even in Freetown. Iranians are coping well, the US should lift the sanctions that is affecting them getting medicines if they really want to help

Eborty:
Please, the aid is all about fundings. USA as we all know is capable of catering for itself and it's citizens. So are you saying you being Iran's president will ignore a helping hand and allow your citizens to be deminished with foreseen death...?

US is not even in top 20 but no 30 in health care index ranking in the world

ranmoor:


You should understand nothing is free even in Freetown. Iranians are coping well, the US should lift the sanctions that is affecting them getting medicines if they really want to help

Bros, i disagree with you on 'freetown', if you would google please do, the usa is the only country that always show philathropy ever ' i mean ever'. Example is when they assist us with boko haram until they back of, americans were never for once a slave but they fought for africa freedom from slavery. Everlasting, they are aid givers. Surely view point differs, though iran are not doing well at all.

ranmoor:


US is not even in top 20 but no 30 in health care index ranking in the world

The sanction you mentioned was agreed upon by the UN of which iran was part of, and mind you iran was a member when other nations were sanction as well (syria etc).

Eborty:
Bros, i disagree with you on 'freetown', if you would google please do, the usa is the only country that always show philathropy ever ' i mean ever'. Example is when they assist us with boko haram until they back of, americans were never for once a slave but they fought for africa freedom from slavery. Everlasting, they are aid givers. Surely view point differs, though iran are not doing well at all.

1. Last time I checked the Main guy of Slave trade abolishment is Wilberforce a British. The Slave Trade Act 1807, officially An Act for the Abolition of the Slave Trade was an Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom prohibiting the slave trade in the British Empire.
2. Do you know how much we paid US for weapons ? https://qz.com/africa/1064752/boko-haram-nigeria-has-purchased-593-million-worth-of-military-gear-from-the-us/

Like I said, everything is interest there is no father Christmas anywhere

ranmoor:


US is not even in top 20 but no 30 in health care index ranking in the world

USA are not medicine experts but they will provide fundings and medicine. Even india being number 1 in medicine has stop exporting drugs starting from yesterday of which the whole world will surely suffer from.

Eborty:
The sanction you mentioned was agreed upon by the UN of which iran was part of, and mind you iran was a member when other nations were sanction as well (syria etc).

You still don't understand how UN works. UN is just figure head. Most of US invasions don't have UN support and they still do it anyway

Eborty:
USA are not medicine experts but they will provide fundings and medicine. Even india being number 1 in medicine has stop exporting drugs starting from yesterday of which the whole world will surely suffer from.

U blocked someone from getting medicines and now you want to offer them the medicine from you. Even Imbeciles will pass

ranmoor:


1. Last time I checked the Main guy of Slave trade abolishment is Wilberforce a British. The Slave Trade Act 1807, officially An Act for the Abolition of the Slave Trade was an Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom prohibiting the slave trade in the British Empire.
2. Do you know how much we paid US for weapons ? https://qz.com/africa/1064752/boko-haram-nigeria-has-purchased-593-million-worth-of-military-gear-from-the-us/

Like I said, everything is interest there is no father Christmas anywhere

Bros. You should know by now that england dont give a Bleep about anybody( the entire) but themselves (england empire) not the rest of the world. example.
Pres. Abraham lincoln and others fought slavery in their policies and in action.

ranmoor:

You still don't understand how UN works. UN is just figure head. Most of US invasions don't have UN support and they still do it anyway

what do you mean by invasion...? The killing of iran general was for usa not for the world. Apart from the killing of the general what else has the usa done that un members are against..,?

ranmoor:


1. Last time I checked the Main guy of Slave trade abolishment is Wilberforce a British. The Slave Trade Act 1807, officially An Act for the Abolition of the Slave Trade was an Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom prohibiting the slave trade in the British Empire.
2. Do you know how much we paid US for weapons ? https://qz.com/africa/1064752/boko-haram-nigeria-has-purchased-593-million-worth-of-military-gear-from-the-us/

Like I said, everything is interest there is no father Christmas anywhere

the weapons you mentioned, is for us to use and return..? Or we approach it for buying. Usa helped us with data informations not weapon.

Eborty:
what do you mean by invasion...? The killing of iran general was for usa not for the world. Apart from the killing of the general what else has the usa done that un members are against..,?

You are so funny... Do you even know Iraq invasion was illegal according to UN?
Here are the list of US illegal invasions


1. Grenada (1983-1984)
2. Bolivia (1986)
3. Virgin Islands (1989)
4. Liberia (1990; 1997; 2003)
5. Saudi Arabia (1990-1991)
6. Kuwait (1991)
7. Somalia (1992-1994; 2006)
8. Bosnia (1993-)
9. Zaire/Congo (1996-1997)
10. Albania (1997)
11. Sudan (1998)
12. Afghanistan (1998; 2001-)
13. Yemen (2000; 2002-)
14. Macedonia (2001)
15. Colombia (2002-)
16 Pakistan (2005-)
17. Syria (2008; 2011-)
18. Uganda (2011)
19. Mali (2013)
20. Niger (2013)
21. Yugoslavia (1919; 1946; 1992-1994; 1999)
22. Iraq (1958; 1963; 1990-1991; 1990-2003; 1998; 2003-2011)
23. Angola (1976-1992)

Eborty:
the weapons you mentioned, is for us to use and return..? Or we approach it for buying. Usa helped us with data informations not weapon.

Is that you don't have data or u refuse to read?
Read
http://saharareporters.com/2017/08/29/us-sells-n181-billion-warplanes-weapons-nigeria

[quote author=ranmoor post=87213746]
You are so funny... Do you even know Iraq invasion was illegal according to UN?
Here are the list of US illegal invasions


1. Grenada (1983-1984)
2. Bolivia (1986)
3. Virgin Islands (1989)
4. Liberia (1990; 1997; 2003)
5. Saudi Arabia (1990-1991)
6. Kuwait (1991)
7. Somalia (1992-1994; 2006)
8. Bosnia (1993-)
9. Zaire/Congo (1996-1997)
10. Albania (1997)
11. Sudan (1998)
12. Afghanistan (1998; 2001-)
13. Yemen (2000; 2002-)
14. Macedonia (2001)
15. Colombia (2002-)
16 Pakistan (2005-)
17. Syria (2008; 2011-)
18. Uganda (2011)
you can google all you want but mind you please also google the reasons for that..!!! The list you pull now, can you say what lead to these invasions.? You google only headlines with no information has to why. Yes the usa invaded somalia which was tag the bloodiest mission ever, but have you observe d ducumentary of d invasion...? i knw u re minimizing & posting headlines. Guy observe wit ur conscience & knw why abt d invasio

ranmoor:


Is that you don't have data or u refuse to read?
Read
http://saharareporters.com/2017/08/29/us-sells-n181-billion-warplanes-weapons-nigeria

Guy. Understand something here, the usa helped 9ja wit DATA AND INFORMATION not weapons, even the britain helped us wit data not weapon. Never will any country give weapons for free, hope you grabe the meaning of help here( usa are arms dealers not arms charitors) ...

ranmoor:

You are so funny... Do you even know Iraq invasion was illegal according to UN?
Here are the list of US illegal invasions


1. Grenada (1983-1984)
2. Bolivia (1986)
3. Virgin Islands (1989)
4. Liberia (1990; 1997; 2003)
5. Saudi Arabia (1990-1991)
6. Kuwait (1991)
7. Somalia (1992-1994; 2006)
8. Bosnia (1993-)
9. Zaire/Congo (1996-1997)
10. Albania (1997)
11. Sudan (1998)
12. Afghanistan (1998; 2001-)
13. Yemen (2000; 2002-)
14. Macedonia (2001)
15. Colombia (2002-)
16 Pakistan (2005-)
17. Syria (2008; 2011-)
18. Uganda (2011)
19. Mali (2013)
20. Niger (2013)
21. Yugoslavia (1919; 1946; 1992-1994; 1999)
22. Iraq (1958; 1963; 1990-1991; 1990-2003; 1998; 2003-2011)
23. Angola (1976-1992)

please nairalanders, go through all the list above and find the reasons for these invasions as the my friend just post headlines with no further information. For any nairalander to contribute or throw more information, please pick one headline and study.

Eborty:
Guy. Understand something here, the usa helped 9ja wit DATA AND INFORMATION not weapons, even the britain helped us wit data not weapon. Never will any country give weapons for free, hope you grabe the meaning of help here( usa are arms dealers not arms charitors) ...

Initially u claimed the US is assisting us to fight boko haram because they are big brother. And I told you, it wasn't on good will but because we are good customer. We bought weapons worth billions of naira from them. So no big deal in assisting your customer. Who knows it might even be part of the arms deal?

Do have a nice day.

Eborty:
please nairalanders, go through all the list above and find the reasons for these invasions as the my friend just post headlines with no further information. For any nairalander to contribute or throw more information, please pick one headline and study.

I don't know how old you were when US last invaded Iraq. Even Secretary Gen Koffi confirmed it was illegal. Germany, Russia, France were all against it then. Pls, go and read

ranmoor:


Initially u claimed the US is assisting us to fight boko haram because they are big brother. And I told you, it wasn't on good will but because we are good customer. We bought weapons worth billions of naira from them. So no big deal in assisting your customer. Who knows it might even be part of the arms deal?

Do have a nice day.

Now i know you are some of those nigerians that does'nt see anything good with a good reasons. Always pessimistic about good deeds, well my people perishes with this mindset in nigeria. If buhari give me #100 naw, you go still say i be him daughter boyfriend, family member, driver, errandboy etc. Mindset needs a better approach. do have a nice day too.

ranmoor:


Initially u claimed the US is assisting us to fight boko haram because they are big brother. And I told you, it wasn't on good will but because we are good customer. We bought weapons worth billions of naira from them. So no big deal in assisting your customer. Who knows it might even be part of the arms deal?

Do have a nice day.

Lolz. Iran are now the very good customer..

ranmoor:


Initially u claimed the US is assisting us to fight boko haram because they are big brother. And I told you, it wasn't on good will but because we are good customer. We bought weapons worth billions of naira from them. So no big deal in assisting your customer. Who knows it might even be part of the arms deal?

Do have a nice day.

Lolz. Iran are now the very good customer..

Eborty:
Now i know you are some of those nigerians that does'nt see anything good with a good reasons. Always pessimistic about good deeds, well my people perishes with this mindset in nigeria. If buhari give me #100 naw, you go still say i be him daughter boyfriend, family member, driver, errandboy etc. Mindset needs a better approach. do have a nice day too.

Seems you are yet to be involved in procurement or huge money investment, you will understand that there are lots of conditions attached to deal. Such conditions is not limited to training, information sharing, servicing etc.
I just hope I've not been discussing with one undergraduate or so.

Efewestern:


* Funding militias who are threats to US allies in the region, e.g Hezbollah in Lebanon is a huge threat to Israel, Houthis in Yemen is a threat to Saudi Arabia, while these groups are being tagged terrorists by US, [s][/s]they aren't your normal terrorists like Boko or ISIS, they exist for the sole purpose of defending their land/territory , they don't go about killing innocent women and children, they only attack military formation[s][/s].

* Iran's continuous support of Assad regime in Syria.

* Iran's missile and nuclear programme, the nuclear programme is still being debated, while everyone thinks Iran isn't going nuclear, US thinks otherwise. Iran has said they won't give up on their nuclear programs, no sane nation gives up their defense, if not for their missile technology, US would have bombarded Iran to the ground.

* Regime change.

TRASH.
hezbollah is synonymous to international terrorism.

ranmoor:

Seems you are yet to be involved in procurement or huge money investment, you will understand that there are lots of conditions attached to deal. Such conditions is not limited to training, information sharing, servicing etc.
I just hope I've not been discussing with one undergraduate or so.

surely, you must be a graduate with poor thinking ability, what concerns being a graduate with opinions or international histories..? NOTE: being a graduate or undergraduate has nothing to do with your sense of reasoning as many undergraduate has made the stand known to us, which includes the likes of facebook owner,dangote,2face,etc.

Efewestern:


Yes something happened, and I won't be the one to explain the genesis of the Iran-US crisis, spare yourself some hours and read what really happened.



They should send the grant to France and South Korea, why Iran? accepting grants from someone who threatened to kill you isn't a wise thing to do.



While sanctions are crumbling, it's becoming useless, 40 years of sanctions and Iran grew from a weak country that imports basically everything to a country that produces majority of what they consume and also a regional power house, if sanctions were that effective, Iran wouldn't have been a threat to anyone.

You can only sanction weak people to submission, not people who are willing to fight to death. You can't solve every problem with sanctions.



Not everyone thinks along religious lines, if you are being fair, you'd know who the real trouble maker is.

I can see you don't want to accept the truth, either you like it or not the truth can't be hidden...

You said their economy is improving even when it's not a news how down their economy is.

Even great countries are broken by sactions/ban, e.g China, Russia, N.K just to mention a few.

Listen, sactions are meant to keep things in check, if you like take it or leave it.

Don't be emotional, it's obvious you're reasoning along religious line.

Lawgod247:


How do I know? Well, tell you what? Go and read about the Persian empire, then come back here and thank me.

I think I understand the point you are trying to make, but the fact still remains that right now America is trying to make a mockery by this aid they are giving Iran. Why not China, why not Italy or is Iran the only infected country if the US is serious about helping they should reduce the sanctions and allow them import drugs. That's my ten cent take on this issue.

LostAddict:


I think I understand the point you are trying to make, but the fact still remains that right now America is trying to make a mockery by this aid they are giving Iran. Why not China, why not Italy or is Iran the only infected country if the US is serious about helping they should reduce the sanctions and allow them import drugs. That's my ten cent take on this issue.

Please, among the mentioned nations, iran is no where near their level of economy, technology, science, manpower etc.

Eborty:
Please, among the mentioned nations, iran is no where near their level of economy, technology, science, manpower etc.

That doesn't mean they can't fend for themselves if the sanction is lifted or does the fact they are underdeveloped stop them from having access to drugs.

If the United States happens to be thinking of lending helping hand to Iran then that's the most hypocritical, malicious behavior of the United States and Donald Trump.

I just can't imagine how deceitful this kind of gesture is. Ridiculous!