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Re: Influential Traditional Rulers Who Were Dethroned In Nigeria. by Hoephase: 11:23am On Mar 11, 2020 |
sassysure: I read all your argument with the other dude. Igbo generally do not have kings so to speak. Picking Obi of Onitsha and Eze Nri two just from all the groups that make up the entire Igbo nation is an indication that Kingship is not an Igbo thing. If I may ask you can you tell me the reach of Obi of Onitsha? Under which kingdom is the present day Nsukka or Nkanu or Umuahia people are in? You will start calling the names of the their new Igwe which like the other guy pointed out earlier on, were a function of British indirect rule. The kingship of Obi of Onitsha mirrors that of Oba of Benin which in terms of distance are not really far from each other. In typical interior of Igbo land before now they have ozo whom formed the committee of ndi iche which is not a title bestow on anyone based on birth or hereditary but on achievements like being the best hunter, distinguished farmer etc. 2 Likes |
Re: Influential Traditional Rulers Who Were Dethroned In Nigeria. by GGirll: 11:24am On Mar 11, 2020 |
Unbiased1: Yet some idiots from Yoruba land believes n claims Ignos have no ruler or king, they say igbos don't have respect yet their kings have been dethroned for illicit behaviours n norms while d igbos remain strong. They should keep looking at d fly in Igbo man's eye while neglecting the log of wood in their own eyes.... 1 Like |
Re: Influential Traditional Rulers Who Were Dethroned In Nigeria. by falopey: 11:24am On Mar 11, 2020 |
crackkhaus: Na you go teach us English? Like what the other poster said. Dethrone is not Benin word. It’s English. It simply means to make a person cease to be king whether he uses crown or not. Not every king wears a crown. So forget that your Benin version of dethrone. The British that removed him said they dethroned him. English is not a Benin language 1 Like |
Re: Influential Traditional Rulers Who Were Dethroned In Nigeria. by kunkelhanspeter(m): 11:25am On Mar 11, 2020 |
The Igbos respect their kings that why they don’t misbehave . 1 Like |
Re: Influential Traditional Rulers Who Were Dethroned In Nigeria. by GGirll: 11:26am On Mar 11, 2020 |
Igbo =1 Yoruba n Hausa =0 2 Likes |
Re: Influential Traditional Rulers Who Were Dethroned In Nigeria. by Risentouch(m): 11:29am On Mar 11, 2020 |
Abeg how long will sanusi banishment last or is it forever? |
Re: Influential Traditional Rulers Who Were Dethroned In Nigeria. by lalaosa(m): 11:29am On Mar 11, 2020 |
Please all those saying the Oba of Benin was dethroned don't really know the history, or maybe you just say this to prove a point that no king is above the law. Yes very true. But the fact is the Oba of Benin was never dethroned like others. He was stylishly removed from the throne and taken to exile. This was done because the white guys knew that the only way to access the kingdom was to deceit the king. Which they still do today in many parts of Nigeria. The Oba of Benin can surely be dethroned by this. Present Government but trust me it's not going to be funny because body bags will follow . Only those that are real Edo will understand this outsiders won't... Edo people are simple but no try them with their Oba. 3 Likes |
Re: Influential Traditional Rulers Who Were Dethroned In Nigeria. by Nobody: 11:31am On Mar 11, 2020 |
Hoephase:U guys are very irritating. Nigeria became a British colony 1901. Obi of onitsha was dated as far back as 1665. I will not reply any of u guys again. U guys are vile. It is shocking to know that common obi of onitsha has been in existence centuries ago. I'm sure non of u expected it. If u schooled in igboland which I did and studied igbo, u will know that red cap chiefs are crowned by the king only! Also, they have been existing in igboland ages ago. They are under the leadership of the king! U don't school me on my tradition, I will teach u if u want to learn. Did u see me talk about oba or emir? 1 Like |
Re: Influential Traditional Rulers Who Were Dethroned In Nigeria. by kunkelhanspeter(m): 11:32am On Mar 11, 2020 |
ednut1:How about the queen of England? Remember before the wicked British came to Nigeria we have our own way of ruling in peace and harmony |
Re: Influential Traditional Rulers Who Were Dethroned In Nigeria. by crackkhaus: 11:33am On Mar 11, 2020 |
falopey:Just like the slave who you're defending, you're another victim of the colonial slave invasion which has messed up your mindset. What is your business with the British meaning of the word or a British version of Nigerian history? Are you British or Nigerian? What on earth makes you think a foreign people can dethrone a king who is not under their authority? Only the people whom a king serves can dethrone him. The British came to play politics with the monarchy. Removed someone who resisted their influence and replaced him with the Iyase (Obaseki) who could be their puppet. Unfortunately, you don't mix politics with tradition...which is why the history books of the great Benin Kingdom does not list Obaseki as an Oba, but instead names Eweka II as the direct crowned successor to Oba Ovoranmen. What the British slave masters do, their English and its interpretation, is of no business to the Benin people, and as well should not be of any business to Nigerians in general. Don't be a slave. |
Re: Influential Traditional Rulers Who Were Dethroned In Nigeria. by gozie112(m): 11:34am On Mar 11, 2020 |
sassysure:dont mind them ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Influential Traditional Rulers Who Were Dethroned In Nigeria. by falopey: 11:34am On Mar 11, 2020 |
lalaosa:Did he continue to rule and be Oba administering his Obaship duties when he was stylishly according to you removed? If no. Then the term for that is clear. He was dethroned! 1 Like |
Re: Influential Traditional Rulers Who Were Dethroned In Nigeria. by kunkelhanspeter(m): 11:35am On Mar 11, 2020 |
lalaosa: Edo people respect the oba more than anything on earth |
Re: Influential Traditional Rulers Who Were Dethroned In Nigeria. by crackkhaus: 11:36am On Mar 11, 2020 |
6digitscomrade:Bro, domo.. Nothing I hate more than seeing Nigerians defending the British version of history even more than their own compatriots. Such slaves... Oba gha to kpe ee.. Ise |
Re: Influential Traditional Rulers Who Were Dethroned In Nigeria. by ednut1(m): 11:37am On Mar 11, 2020 |
kunkelhanspeter:there is only one monarch in uk and its constitutional. The ones here are not. The british conquered us and should have scrapped the monarchy. But left them as puppets 1 Like |
Re: Influential Traditional Rulers Who Were Dethroned In Nigeria. by Nobody: 11:38am On Mar 11, 2020 |
gozie112:This is not even the problem. They all assumed after going through google that the British created the igbo kings. Can u imagine that. I have told them to research on the most populous igbo king which is obi of onitsha. 2 Likes |
Re: Influential Traditional Rulers Who Were Dethroned In Nigeria. by Nobody: 11:42am On Mar 11, 2020 |
crackkhaus: ![]() ![]() Are u from Edo? These people are delusional honestly. Thanks to Google. Everybody is now a pro in some cultures they no nothing about. 1 Like |
Re: Influential Traditional Rulers Who Were Dethroned In Nigeria. by thundafire: 11:43am On Mar 11, 2020 |
DeRay98:it seems u are still living in stone age when even the parliament in UK wanted abolishing the monarchy without anything happening u are here ranting 1 Like |
Re: Influential Traditional Rulers Who Were Dethroned In Nigeria. by thundafire: 11:45am On Mar 11, 2020 |
Trimque2k1:u seem not to understand my point in the constitution all Paramount leaders are directly under the state government it can be abolish and y Oba own is different is because he completely stays away from politics unlike his long throat counter parts 1 Like |
Re: Influential Traditional Rulers Who Were Dethroned In Nigeria. by Nobody: 11:46am On Mar 11, 2020 |
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://wikiwand.com/en/Obi_of_Onitsha&ved=2ahUKEwjFj_ennpLoAhXfRBUIHQK9ADwQFjAnegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw1a1MKHKocI05FolwqwzNu9&cshid=1583923478647 For those that said obi of onitsha is a British creation. Since Mohammed can't go to the mountain, let mountain go to mohammed ![]() I hope this settles it. 1 Like |
Re: Influential Traditional Rulers Who Were Dethroned In Nigeria. by deluckiest(m): 11:47am On Mar 11, 2020 |
Saopedro:The OP should be reminded that the dethronement and subsequent sending to exile monarchs is not part of our constitution and those still practicing it such as Ganduje is doing it with outright disregard to the constition and therefore, should not be celebrated and salivated on as some of you are doing. At the bolded, it may interest the OP that the event were the Oba of Benin was sent on exile took place around 100 years ago and the British army were able to defeat the Benin warriors because of their superior military fire power. The Oba of Benin was the only king in Nigeria who stood against and fought the colonial powers who came not with genuine intention to trade but to steal from the Benin kingdom abundant wealth. The people of Itsekiri and others were under Benin empire and so the Oba 'subjects'. Your so caller dethronement of the Oba Ovorawmen N'Ogb'aise was the first and last to be carried out and I'm yet to see any governor that would attempt it. Chief Igbedion the Esama of Benin who attempted to create a parallel kingdom in the past failed and when he realises his richies and fame would only betray him and set him against the people, he made a retreat and ask the Oba of Benin for forgiveness 1 Like |
Re: Influential Traditional Rulers Who Were Dethroned In Nigeria. by Hoephase: 11:57am On Mar 11, 2020 |
sassysure: How does any of my statements lead to you calling Igbo vile? Name calling does not win an argument. You may like playing in the mud but what you failed to understand is that there are people that would actually descent to your level. Today is your "lucky" day my python script will take hours to run an mcmc simulation of 100mila. So I have your time. My question to you remain can you tell us the reach of Obi of Onitsha before the arrival of the British? Does the Eze Nri kingdom include all the present day Igbo land running from Nsukka to Eza in Ebonyi? If not, please which kingdom was in charge of the places in Igbo speaking community that were outside the reach of Obi of Onitsha and Eze Nri? If the only answer you have starts with calling your father and generation unborn vile do not bother to respond. Because guy I no get patient for your irresponsible upbringing this morning. I will insult you and give you some to take home to your parents if you dare insult me again. You study Igbo tradition my left nyash. Show me any Igbo history that was written before colonial time and we will start talking instead of parroting tradition as seen by the white man. |
Re: Influential Traditional Rulers Who Were Dethroned In Nigeria. by OgbanjeProphet: 11:58am On Mar 11, 2020 |
Runtown07:I smoke your senses! 1 Like
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Re: Influential Traditional Rulers Who Were Dethroned In Nigeria. by Nobody: 11:59am On Mar 11, 2020 |
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://feathersproject./tag/obi-of-onitsha/&ved=2ahUKEwjC_pedoZLoAhX8QRUIHWXTCVYQFjAWegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw1bfW21FGGHUnVfdOAhZzT1&cshid=1583924161906 U can read further. This dynasty has been in existence for more than 400yrs! I'm sure awka, some dynasties in imo, abia, Enugu and eboni are as old as that of onitsha. Because they hardly make noise, they are now British creation. Mtcheew. 1 Like |
Re: Influential Traditional Rulers Who Were Dethroned In Nigeria. by joefelin2345: 12:04pm On Mar 11, 2020 |
IWTBAB:Let's wait for the current probe of 2.5 billion levelled against him. What about billions being siphoned now in the name of paying fuel subsidy? |
Re: Influential Traditional Rulers Who Were Dethroned In Nigeria. by Gbenga764: 12:06pm On Mar 11, 2020 |
see below |
Re: Influential Traditional Rulers Who Were Dethroned In Nigeria. by PrinceMajestic: 12:07pm On Mar 11, 2020 |
Urhobo monarchs were never dethroned in history except a rebellion against them from their subjects and external forces |
Re: Influential Traditional Rulers Who Were Dethroned In Nigeria. by Hoephase: 12:08pm On Mar 11, 2020 |
sassysure: I am from Umuahia grew up in Enugu. I know my tradition and history and that of the people I am talking about. You tell me where you from? Let me be sure I am not even arguing with a non Igbo troll |
Re: Influential Traditional Rulers Who Were Dethroned In Nigeria. by deluckiest(m): 12:09pm On Mar 11, 2020 |
baralatie:Oba Ovorawmen was never replaced by Obaseki, rather he was used to collect taxes to the british government. The people of Benin never recognized him as Oba. The throne was left vacant until the death of Oba Ovorawmen where he exiled in Calabar, his son Oba Eweka assumed the throne to continue from where his father left off |
Re: Influential Traditional Rulers Who Were Dethroned In Nigeria. by Hoephase: 12:11pm On Mar 11, 2020 |
gozie112: You have king that started when? Ask your aged parents who was your king before the advent of colonialism and what was the type of rulership in place before now? 1 Like |
Re: Influential Traditional Rulers Who Were Dethroned In Nigeria. by Nobody: 12:12pm On Mar 11, 2020 |
saharareporters.com › 2018/03/04 How True Is The Saying That The Igbo Have No King? By Fredrick Nwabufo | Sahara Reporters A true son of the soil knows what igbo people don't have kings means. I hope this explains it to some fake igbos and non igbos that think igbos don't have kings and even if they do, it's British creation of last century. I didn't capture this well. Look it up and read. |
Re: Influential Traditional Rulers Who Were Dethroned In Nigeria. by oyatz(m): 12:14pm On Mar 11, 2020 |
The monarchial system is not firmly rooted in Igboland. Igbos don't have kings that are widely respected with authority beyond their immediate environment like the Oba of Bini, Emir of Kano or the Alaafin of Oyo. Most Igbo kings are modern day kings with no royal dysnasties. Some were descendants of warrants chiefs appointed by the British Colonial Masters. Unbiased1: |
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