Evercurious:


In the north doing what? Are they there to kill, maim or forcefully grab lands? PLS STOP PLAYING SMART HERE

How many Northerners want to forcefully grab your land? Pls stop this northern phobia is very irritating

GermanMelania:
plenty. But how many igbos are looking to rule northeners?
They just want to do their biz they do not want to take over northern land.

Many northerners are doing their business legitimately in the South without harming a fly stop stereotyping northerners like they are all killers.

codemaniacs:


the 95 percent strangers are not aiming to become the ruler of Dubai, or ruler of the other emirates in the UAE.

if you still don't understand my point, this comment below answers you.

A stranger in UAE is better-protected than in Nigeria period. People go about their biz without harassment from useless govt touts.

No stranger vs war.

fk002:


Many northerners are doing their business legitimately in the South without harming a fly stop stereotyping northerners like they are all killers.

No one is saying they are all killers. But there is a nothern agenda. Period. The influx is much. Why require citizenship? Imagine how much devastation it will cause smaller cultures with little population. They need to be protected too. Their heritage. Their land. Let state of origin remain state od origin. We went from 3 regions. 19 states to now 36 states. Countless local govts. We don't want RUGA and we don't want this.

zz

codemaniacs:


that's the point I'm trying to make....

In Nigeria, non-indigenes aim to be political leaders over indigenes.

he has been arguing that the UAE has a population in which foreigners are over 90% and it is peaceful and I'm telling him that those foreigners wouldn't be allowed to run for political appointments, not to talk of ruling any of the emirates.

Thanks. He neglects to mention in UAE foreigners cannot own over 50% of a business. Hence people who start business there find a local "partner" who owns 51% on paper. They pay him salary to do nothing but for legality. He forgets most foreigners in UAE are tantamount to slaves. UAE is a restrictive culture as well. If a woman marries there her husband has to sponsor her. If they get divorced he can stoo her visa which freezes her bank accounts. Even her children can be taken easily as thry will now claim her foreign culture is bad. He is using mouth to talk.

Nooo you can't spoil your state and start running to the south West.. If you are ibo, hausa or everybody should go and develop his state.. You can't be sharing kerosene in your state while some states are investing in infrastructure and human capital and those from the kerosene state continue to vote them later rushing to the south west

codemaniacs:


a stranger in UAE is not better-protected than the indigenes of UAE.

aren't the lagos government protecting and treating the italian that brought covid19 virus to Nigeria.

You miss the point again.

Just like Nigerians who grew up in the UK or Canada. They get far better law reserved for foreigners. You cannot compare the rights to the nonsense operating in Nigeria.

I talk from my outside experience

zz

fk002:


How many Northerners want to forcefully grab your land? Pls stop this northern phobia is very irritating

Pls dont term it NORTHERNERS.. I'm not gullible okay?. Rephrase it 'FULANIS' and then listen to yourself while you type.. INFILTRATOR

mitchmang:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/resident-of-a-state-for-10-years-should-become-indigene-senate/amp/

The repealing effect of this bill will be much.
1. lt will redefine who is an in indegene. Especially in the Niger Delta regions and the matching ground rubbish and community quota.

2. Quata system will fisle out. If l stay in Zamfara and grow my kids. Yes they can be admitted with 120 cut off as Zamfara indegene.


so so many things.........

codemaniacs:


you can't compare two different countries.

two different countries means two different cultures, two different lifestyles, two different mindsets, two different laws/constitution.

Nigeria is not UK or Canada, UK is just doing eye service so that they give out racist vibes due to their past history.

first, you were comparing UAE now its UK/Canada...

you cannot compare how two different governments operate.

Nigerians/Africans are under indirect rule, it is leaders of UK/France that influence most African leaders.

I put forward UAE because they are largely a strang man country. And they manage it well that even more strangers are willing to come in. How much more about those that stay within their own country, Nigeria.

This is about law and order which could help solve the non-indigenes issue inside Nigeria.

They can be done with good leadership.

As for the UK and others doing eye service let Nigeria do a quarter of those eye services first.

zz

No way! Nigeria may never get mature for that.

codemaniacs:


its not about law and order.

it's not about good leadership.

you're saying all this just because you want to take what is due to the indigenes of a place where you are not an indigene.

to your law and order is when the law and order can be used against the indigenes.

to you, good leadership is when the good leadership can be used against the indigenes.

you're on your own..

Take what is due to indigene by foot.

Nigeria is a failure and everybody is stuck inside it.

In your house do visitor has the same right with you and family members but what you are expected to do is treat your visitor fairly enough. This is why people will not stop migrating to other countries. I don't need to explain all that.

richie240:







Like ds chap below who has spent almost all his life in sw but still hates them with a passion:

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For now we are not matured enough, either Igbos, Yoruba or other tribes

Niggmatic:



I understand.
Nigerians are the problem of Nigeria not the politicians. Politicians only ride on established sentiment to perpetuate themselves. If Nigerian s change, the politicians will automatically change. Think about it deeply.

I only support this because the way I see it, is that if everyone can claim everywhere in Nigeria, certain things like tribalism will fizzle away.

If we want to live together as a nation, let's do so with utmost sincerity but if not, let everyone go their separate ways.

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Nice point, I don't it will work now. Except there is a serious re-orientation of my thoughts and they should start grooming our kids for future programmes

zz

codemaniacs:


house is different from state and country.

visitors are treated according to their behavior, closeness to the family/person, relationship to the family/person e.t.c..

another country is not a family/person. especially a country with different ethnic nations. most countries outside Africa consist of only one ethnic nation.

Nigeria is a piece of a country just leave it like that. Bye-bye.

These senators are finally mad! Is this a ploy to distribute Fulani to all the regions in Nigeria as indigenes of the place?

Assuming it's been existing 10 years ago and PMB being president now stylishly makes a fulani man governor of Ekiti state or Imo state, how would the real indigenes feel? He will use his office to crush the indigenes and build Fulani empire in the Imo. His brothers Fulani herdsmen would take over and overrun indigenes of those places and by so doing, Usman Danfodio mission is accomplished. SW, SS, SE senators, be careful o! Reason ahead o!!

GermanMelania:
Lol. Such b.s see plan to take other people's land and enslave them. The north with thier population. Ndi igbos claiming lagos. Voting will become insane. How many southern people move up north where it is a more restrictive culture? I hope this bill dies or we are screwed. The kind war wey go break out ehn. Plus they will make this retroactive. And what will happen in 20 years when all those almajiris grow up?. This is bad policy. Say no to birthright citizenship.

Exactly the first thought that came to my mind. They are picking up from Ruga, they only use a Southerner this time so we won't look at it from another angle. If this is granted, then all Fulanis in the South will claim citizenship of their respective States. We all know what that means.

GermanMelania:

They want your land and will vote you out of power. Remove your king and relegate you to slave.

Who asked the fulanis to be nomadic for so long now they wan settle and have decided nigeria us thier homeland

The way Nigeria is currently structured and with the systems in place I don’t think this law can work or be a good thing. It’s cause major issues.

Also it is also a meaningless and redundant law because if ur an indigene if a particular state why wud u go and seek to be an indigene of another state? Ur can only be an indigene of ur original state unless u are stateless due to exile or Smtn. As a Nigerian the law gives u residency to any state so u don’t need to confuse the nation any further with indigene.

In America sm1 from Massachusetts can not claim California just because he’s lived there for 10years of more. Ur primary state is where u are from. Period.

Indigene shud be for special case of foreigners trying to seek new nationality only.

I hope our rubber stamp and confused senators know what they are doing. So many irrelevant and funny laws being brought up.

GermanMelania:
Lol. Such b.s see plan to take other people's land and enslave them. The north with thier population. Ndi igbos claiming lagos. Voting will become insane. How many southern people move up north where it is a more restrictive culture? I hope this bill dies or we are screwed. The kind war wey go break out ehn. Plus they will make this retroactive. And what will happen in 20 years when all those almajiris grow up?. This is bad policy. Say no to birthright citizenship.

The bill cannot see the light of day. I have analyzed it and it is not only redundant bt sinister. There is totally no reason for it at all. It is only done for very special cases and not general cases if at all done.

Our senators have lost it. From generator ban to this nonsense. Nothing productive to move the country forward is being discussed just trash.

easyfem:
this is bullshit to me ........ so hausa spending 10 years in akure will bcom indigene and im 100% sure its cant b vice versa in housa land ........ we knw our family ...... nigeria cant b 1 ..... that is 100%.... we dont speak thesame language , diff culture, diff believe , we dont share the same value ... we dont reason the same way ........... how can u b 30 years old and u av already give birth to 30 chilldren with 4 wifes ... and the owner of the land is having 2 children just bcoz of his ability to think and reason life ......... now u want to claim we are the same on my land .... that equation is fucking wrong ......... can someone give me SANUSI number ........ he need to help us address this issue coz OMO INA LA RAN SI INA .... in jenifer voice

U can't support one Nigeria n hate this na ...choose one

sesan85:
You're right. The people of Anambra (Ojukwu's family) who
rejected/prevented Bianca Ojukwu from representing
them in the Senate because she's from Nkwo in
Enugu State. Or the people of Imo State who
rejected a Catholic Bishop because he's from
Anambra State. Or the Abia State Government
sacking non-indigenes from Imo State from its civil
service. Leave Lagos alone and focus on the
intolerance, infighting, and tribal prejudices in your
own erosion-ravaged hellhole.

Igbos are the worst offenders in this prejudice. They fight each other like crabs whenever their is any perceived gain. That’s when they will remember that your great grandfather was from Arondizuogu, not Anam. Anambra people are worst. That’s why dis people can never be united. Too clannish.

Evercurious:


What about the ones killing ,raping , maiming,forcefully grabbing peoples lands and still can't be controlled? Pls relocate your Fulani's somewhere else. NIGERIA ISNT AVAILABLE FOR SUCH RUBBISH. OKAY?

Well anyhow anyway they will still kill so what's actually the difference. We need a revolution in Nigeria.

mana123:

Igbos are the worst offenders in this prejudice. They fight each other like crabs whenever their is any perceived gain. That’s when they will remember that your great grandfather was from Arondizuogu, not Anam. Anambra people are worst. That’s why dis people can never be united. Too clannish.

Sha unfortunately true but not all of us.

jaxxy:


The way Nigeria is currently structured and with the systems in place I don’t think this law can work or be a good thing. It’s cause major issues.

Also it is also a meaningless and redundant law because if ur an indigene if a particular state why wud u go and seek to be an indigene of another state? Ur can only be an indigene of ur original state unless u are stateless due to exile or Smtn. As a Nigerian the law gives u residency to any state so u don’t need to confuse the nation any further with indigene.

In America sm1 from Massachusetts can not claim California just because he’s lived there for 10years of more. Ur primary state is where u are from. Period.

Indigene shud be for special case of foreigners trying to seek new nationality only.

I hope our rubber stamp and confused senators know what they are doing. So many irrelevant and funny laws being brought up.

We should not invoke Western laws . It really doesn't work in our situation. Yeah you can move from MA to CA and claim cali. But the native Indian Americans cannot move to another reservation and claim ancestry there. You can't be Cherokee and claim Sioux indian and start collecting dues there. But honestly what they do in America really doesn't matter and is not our concern.

GermanMelania:


We should not invoke Western laws . It really doesn't work in our situation. Yeah you can move from MA to CA and claim cali. But the native Indian Americans cannot move to another reservation and claim ancestry there. You can't be Cherokee and claim Sioux indian and start collecting dues there. But honestly what they do in America really doesn't matter and is not our concern.

I sited America as a world example not just for America. Indigene of one place and u go smwhere else to claim indigene in same country, who does that

jaxxy:


I sited America as a world example not just for America. Indigene of one place and u go smwhere else to claim indigene in same country, who does that

But the America you cited here doesn't work. As you can move and become a "native". Concept of state of origin doesn't work here. They also do not have our cultural make up.

Mrfeel:


No , you didn't accommodate me, you sold your house to me and I paid fully for it, I have every right to do whatever I wish to do with the house cause I bought it.

U r missing d point!
A non-indigine remains a non-indigine and shd not fo.ol himself/herself to aspire for positions meant solely for indigine alone; if u like buy d Atlantic ocean with ur drug money, e nor konsyn anybody.
The day you allow a sokoto man who was born and bred in d east to bcom d governor of abia (or any biafran state), then u and ur lots are welcome to be governor of Lagos or any s/w state.
Shikena!

richie240:

U r missing d point!
A non-indigine remains a non-indigine and shd not fo.ol himself/herself to aspire for positions meant solely for indigine alone; if u like buy d Atlantic ocean with ur drug money, e nor konsyn anybody.
The day you allow a sokoto man who was born and bred in d east to bcom d governor of abia (or any biafran state), then u and ur lots are welcome to be governor of Lagos or any s/w state.
Shikena!

If you can sell your lands to us, you can sell those positions to us too , didn't makinde appoint an Igbo lady Julian nwachukwu as the liaison officer Ibadan north local government recently?


Igbokwe is very much involved in Lagos politics he might contest for chairman soon