Onlinealaba:
No Alaafin can't be dethroned he should just save himself all these letters,We sell smart TVs and sound bar

But his father was dethroned.

Keemsleek005:


Theres nothing like empires again and ekiti was never under oyo empire, one people you dont joke with when it comes to history or been so educated are the ekiti people they will use pen and destory you cos the well educated. If the king doesnf know what hes saying he wont have wrote that letter with facts. Why didnt the alafin talk when the olugbo of ugbo land was tackling oni of ife that hes the true yoruba king. I say again you cant know more than the king himself.

Exactly. Y didn't Alaafin tackle Olugbo when he said he is above all the Yoruba Kings.

Omnivalent:

he thought south west is more like the north were a governor can dethrone and install traditional rulers as he wants
LOL!
he is not smart enough.

Are they not under the payroll of the state government?
What happened when Fayose dethroned one?

Any obas can be dethroned by the government. The governor is the number 1 citizen of his state and he is the only one vested with power and authority enshrined in the constitution.

We are not in monarchical regime, but democracy.

Powersurge:
Power is nothing without control (can't remember the brand that uses that).

The beauty of power is CONTROL. And that's something an average African has to learn. I am trying to imagine if Buhari was Trump. He would have directed DSS, EFCC, ICPC, NP, NA, NAF, NAN, NSCDC, NIA, VIGILANTE, Lai Mohammed, CJN, Attorney General of the Federation, Bomb squad, etc to hunt CNN.

Ordinary AIT dem don use regulatory agency to shut her down if not for court.

Gandollar has no business entangling with Sanusi. He has won the fvcking election. I read the reasons for dethronement, they were laughable. Disrespect to political authority, missing meetings, are you serious?

Lol... even Sanusi said it that he would have used the unprofessionalism in Gandollar's words to defeat him in court.

Tlyon:
I believe as tradition its the duty of a higher king to see to the affairs of the lesser.

Alaafin may be higher in Oyo empire; but Ekiti is not part of old or new Oyo empire. The obas in Ekiti have their own hierarchy and it should be respected. If they don't want him to put his mouth in their internal affairs, so be it! Most obas in Ekiti are very well educated, unlike the seni illiterates they have in some other places, alaafin can't spread his tentacles there!

RichDad1:

[s]It’s a deliberate subtle jab on the Alaafin. Fayemi is far reaching as far as this case is concerned.
Anyways, I expected all these to the settled behind closed doors in few days.
However, to the people that called Alaafin an Interloper, need I tell he doesn’t forgive such and will surely get his revenge away from the media. [/s]

You dey make noise.

saheedbadmus:
Hmm dis alawe no serious.. so he doesn't know in Yoruba culture and custom a 1st class king can always intervene on behalf of lesser kings.. so As alafia mediate with Fayemi on behalf of the kings bad abi .. hmm



When planning a party, let security be ur no 1 priority.. let our well trained and equipped Bouncers secure your events withing Lagos and neighboring states at an affordable rate.. our Bouncers can handle crowd and can withstand all kind of situations..

say only what u know.... Alafin of oyo domain and territory ends in oyo state, and for ur informtion he is not the only first class chief in oyo state

Powersurge:
Power is nothing without control (can't remember the brand that uses that).

The beauty of power is CONTROL. And that's something an average African has to learn. I am trying to imagine if Buhari was Trump. He would have directed DSS, EFCC, ICPC, NP, NA, NAF, NAN, NSCDC, NIA, VIGILANTE, Lai Mohammed, CJN, Attorney General of the Federation, Bomb squad, etc to hunt CNN.

Ordinary AIT dem don use regulatory agency to shut her down if not for court.

Gandollar has no business entangling with Sanusi. He has won the fvcking election. I read the reasons for dethronement, they were laughable. Disrespect to political authority, missing meetings, are you serious?

PIRELLI TYRES

VirginSearcher:
Makinde! the only politician I see in the whole South West anytime any day, God bless Oyo people for voting him.
Meanwhile Peter Obi/Kwankwaso/Zulum 2023

Add Sanusi, so he can waste part of his 'billions' just like Atiku.

The state government’s hand is written all over the letter. The government should seek an amicable solution to the crisis and not continue on this rude and arrogant path.

Powersurge:
Power is nothing without control (can't remember the brand that uses that).

The beauty of power is CONTROL. And that's something an average African has to learn. I am trying to imagine if Buhari was Trump. He would have directed DSS, EFCC, ICPC, NP, NA, NAF, NAN, NSCDC, NIA, VIGILANTE, Lai Mohammed, CJN, Attorney General of the Federation, Bomb squad, etc to hunt CNN.

Ordinary AIT dem don use regulatory agency to shut her down if not for court.

Gandollar has no business entangling with Sanusi. He has won the fvcking election. I read the reasons for dethronement, they were laughable. Disrespect to political authority, missing meetings, are you serious?

Pirelli
Power is nothing without control
They sell tires

Let me google this oba name first I never hear am before.

Haywhysat:
Ekiti used to be under oyo empire before the Ekiti parapo wiar, read more.

Ekiti was never under Oyo empire. The attempt to extend the empire to part of Ekiti was what led to Ekiti parapo war, with Ibadan soldiers fighting against the Ekiti army led by Ogedemgbe agbogungboro and Fabunmi.
In the real sense, Alaafin was not a bigger king than other kings that are direct descendants of Oduduwa. Alaafin became rich and powerful at a point and overcame some Yoruba towns where such towns were made to pay "isakole" to Oyo. At no point was he able to get the whole of Yoruba under him.
I initially thought the Alaafin's letter was fake, where he was describing some obas as subordinate. The present chairman of Ekiti traditional rulers council has better claim to Oduduwa than some of the 16 obas in question.
Unfortunately, the 16 Obas are the making of the colonialist and making our traditions as subjects of colonialism decision is belittling.
The Alaafin ought to have come in to settle issues by talking to everyone involved instead of a letter with tone of a command to people that are not his subjects.
Nobody wrote any position in stone, the first class obas in Ekiti by my understanding are 22 in numbers and they are sovereign in each of their domain.

Obas and Emirs acting like babies and making the governors feel very superior. The monarchs forgot that when these governors were nobody, they came begging the traditional rulers to persuade their people for vote. Life sha

Seyi should banish all of them to sambisa..........

geosuzzy:
say only what u know.... Alafin of oyo domain and territory ends in oyo state, and for ur informtion he is not the only first class chief in oyo state

We ain't talking Oyo state this time. We are talking about first class kings in yoruba land, he listed them on his letter.

wiseoneking:
At least more than 5 Obas has been dethroned before now. Check history.

most of them don't know about their tribe history

VirginSearcher:
Makinde! the only politician I see in the whole South West anytime any day, God bless Oyo people for voting him.
Meanwhile Peter Obi/Kwankwaso/Zulum 2023

igbo means NAIRA

babyfaceafrica:
Lolz... Makinde should call Aláàfin to order?.. Hahahaha.. This king is not serious at all...

Makinde is superior to the kings in Oyo State according to the law.

wiseoneking:
At least more than 5 Obas has been dethroned before now. Check history.

Deji of Akure were even among , it happened less than 10 years ago..

saheedbadmus:
Hmm dis alawe no serious.. so he doesn't know in Yoruba culture and custom a 1st class king can always intervene on behalf of lesser kings.. so As alafia mediate with Fayemi on behalf of the kings bad abi .. hmm



When planning a party, let security be ur no 1 priority.. let our well trained and equipped Bouncers secure your events withing Lagos and neighboring states at an affordable rate.. our Bouncers can handle crowd and can withstand all kind of situations..

Guy, you are getting it all wrong, the alafin should have written the chairman of ekiti council of obas or even invite the waring parties not to be writing the governor.

What he has done is called "abosi" in yoruba land.

The alafin should respect himself and stay clear of ekiti since he does not know how to mediate.

Omnivalent:

he thought south west is more like the north were a governor can dethrone and install traditional rulers as he wants
LOL!
he is not smart enough.

A lots of kings have been dethroned in the past including Deji of Akure for misconduct that has political undertones during the time of O.A.Mimiko, although the Deji no try at all by the attitude/issue that leads to his dethronement.

In the olden days,Alaafin would have,by now, commanded Areonakakanfo to invade Ilawe and bring Alawe before him (Alaafin) for severe punishment. Historically, there are only sixteen "Pelupelu Oba" or "Oba alade merindinlogun" ( sixteen first class kings) in Ekiti state and Alawe is not one of them

Alawe is only taking advantage of democracy and the balkanization of Yoruba traditional order by the colonial rulers to act in this manner.. Is it not Ekiti state aggrieved kings who are at loggerhead with him that actually reported him to Alaafin ? And he has the effrontery to call Alaafin an interloper ! I know "Iku baba yeye" will still deal with him. History cannot be rewritten,Alawe is a lesser king in the hierarchy of Obas in Ekiti land.

VirginSearcher:
Makinde! the only politician I see in the whole South West anytime any day, God bless Oyo people for voting him.
Meanwhile Peter Obi/Kwankwaso/Zulum 2023

continue to dream a useless dream

https://litcaf.com/ekiti-people/

Ekiti people are subgroup of the Yoruba, historically occupying the Ekiti country, which was made up of 16 kingdoms- Otun, Ikole, Ado, Oye, Ijero, Ido, Ikere, Ise, Emure, Effon, Okemesi (traditionally Imesi-Igodo), Ara, Isan, Itaji, Obo, Akure, and Ogotun. In 1882- the Awujale of Ijebu made mention of being an ally of “the 16 kings in Ekiti.” Samuel Johnson says that the Ekiti are a section of the aboriginal elements occupying Yorubaland before Oduduwa. Apparently, the people in this eastern districts comprises aborigines of the country and later immigrants. In reality, a majority claims to have come from Ile Ife, though there are sessions who maintains they came from easterly regions (mostly Benin) or from other places at different times. The story usually goes that even these people came from Ile Ife but went separately or in the company of the Oba of Benin, to the east, settling in Benin kingdom. For reasons that escaped records, they retraced their steps and finally settled in their present abode.

No single leader was acknowledged by the confederation of Ekiti kingdoms prior to the 19th Century. No two towns in Ekiti is known to have been ruled together by a single Ekiti ruler. The Ekiti dialect differs in varying degrees from one kingdom to another. Although there can be seen an Ekiti country characterized by hills and rocks, a 1933 Intelligence Report on Ikere by N.A.C. Weir posits that “the Ekiti people, if there are any such thing, are not a subgroup in the sense that the Egba, Ijebu are.” Each town, identified as Ekiti therefore are one because they live and occupy land in a district which takes its name owing to its hilly nature. These people, said CMS’s Hinderer in a journal of 1855, “love their liberty- and have been known in the hour of extremity to chose death rather than a life of slavery.”

Trade served as a great uniting factor for the Ekiti people. Women were often seen carrying their wares on their heads from one end of the Ekiti country to another. However, Ekiti was too fragmented to offer enough resistance to the mighty Benin empire when by the late 16th Century, forces penetrated as far as Otun in the extreme north of Ekiti country. The kingdoms gave their submission peacefully in most cases, but ignored or forgot the terms of submission thereafter because of the relatively great distance of their land form Benin and the inconsistency of the power of Benin. Evidence shows that Ekiti before the 19th Century, like other eastern Yoruba kingdoms, were drawn more towards the center of Benin than towards the center of Yoruba civilization. At intervals, Ekiti came under the old Oyo Empire. Igbomina, occupying the north of Ekiti was fully part of the empire but the rest of Ekiti kings only acknowledged the Alaafin at Oyo as a senior brother.

Ekiti did not suffer the effects of the decline of Oyo authority directly, but Fulanis from Ilorin, who, taking advantage of the empire’s fall, soon showed face at Otun, in the extreme north of Ekiti. Although they conquered most Igbomina villages with little difficulty, Omu-Ekiti proved to be a nut to crack, for its ranks had been filled with Oyo refugees who had learnt the Oyo Art of War. Managing to rise up once beaten, Otun served as a gate keeper to the rest of Ekiti southward. Once more, the hills and ruggedness of the Ekiti country rendered the Calvary warfare that was the hallmark of Fulani Ilorin’s army ineffective. By 1840, the Ibadan army, eager to enter dominance in the new post-Alafin Oyo order that was to emerge, had joined Ekiti warriors in expelling the Fulanis.

From 1854, Ibadan military garrison, which had become the most powerful state in the whole of Yorubaland set its eyes fully on Ekiti, the country which it has, after several minor expeditions, familiarized itself with. Six years later, most Ekiti towns had come under Ibadan. As aggression from Ibadan continued, the kingdoms started to realize they shared a common destiny.



Wokuti

Wokuti, name given to the mysterious death of Ibadan warriors at the hills of Ekiti in 1897 at the last Ibadan military campaign in eastern Yoruba country literally means “pile the corpses out of the way.” The Wokuti war was pursued on the Ibadan side under the leadership of Latosisa, but no mention of it was made even in Ibadan prior to the attack. In this war, neither Ogedengbe nor Aduloju, the arch-enemy warrirors of the Ibadan army was attacked, but it appears, Esugbayi, the ambitious warrior, friend to Ibadan, who ruled a large kingdom extending beyond Aiyede to Ekiti and Akoko lands. Esugbayi bourgeoining influence, historian, S.A. Akintoye believed, excited the suspicion and hostility of the Ibadan chiefs.

Latosisa, the Ibadan General’s bigger vision was to extend Ibadan conquest into far northeastern Yoruba countries- the latter day Kabba Division. In December 1875, he led his army into Ekiti and proceeded to Aiyede, capturing and securing the surrender of Esugbayi who now accepted his kingdom to be Ibadan protectorate and to pay tributes. The conquering Ibadan party missed their way, and forayed into dangerous terrains where many perished, in one probably exaggerated account, leaving only one alive.



Ekiti Parapo

Erstwhile hostile and uncooperative relations between Ekiti kingdoms reached a turning point in 1878 with the creation of an alliance with Ogedengbe as Chief Commander and with the political patronage of the Owa of Ilesa. The alliance’s original purpose was to dislodge the Ibadan overlord. The emirate of Ilorin, seeing an opportunity in its contest against Ibadan for more territories, joined the Ekiti Parapo alliance in this campaign. Ekiti villages already under the control of the emirate joined their kindred who sough freedom from Ibadan influence. With the outbreak of Kiriji War, they pursued their goal of a glorious reunion.

A treaty was made in 1886, which passed Ekiti districts formerly under Ibadan control to the hands of the British. The part of Ekiti still under Ilorin began to revolt against the emirate, sometimes driving consols from their towns as recorded of the towns of Otun, Aiyede, and Ishan towns in 1896. An attempt to assert the emir’s authority led to a war at Erinmope, in which Ilorin suffered defeat. In spite of this victory, many Ekiti towns under the emirate were not joined politically with their kindred in Southern Nigeria until the first half of the 20th Century. When Otun Ekiti was finally transferred to Southern Nigeria in 1936, there remained only one Ekiti town left under Ilorin jurisdiction. Ekiti people are today contained in the political entity, Ekiti state of Nigeria, carved out of the old Ondo state in 1996.

SlimOpsy:
Am just too lazy to read anything. But how did Oyo take reach Ekiti?

Old oyo Kingdom included all Yoruba land. Meanwhile our present political system has reduced influence of the Obas that Makinde self, who is not age mate of some Alaafin 's sons can dethrone him with little or no noise.

Stakeholders:
Who even know alawe of Ekiti in hierarchical order of Obas in Yorubaland? Is it because Alaafin( iku Baba yeye) lamented that Fayemi not supposed give him chairman of Obas in Ekiti that made him to have that gut to insult Alaafin like that.

Anyway anyone who's closer to him should caution him and told him what befall Akinolu in Lagos when he wanted to belittle Ogunwusi. The fact that Governor have been given authority over you doesn't mean that you should not know your limitations.

You don't need to know him, same way I dont even know if one alafin is somewhere in oyo state or in the forest.

Your alafin will soon get the insult he is looking for, if he doesn't stay away from ekiti.

Haywhysat:
Ekiti used to be under oyo empire before the Ekiti parapo war, read more.

Ekiti was never under Oyo Empire. It was Ibadan that wanted to lord it over Ekiti/Ìjèṣà through Ajeles. This led to Kiriji/Ekiti parapọ̀ war for 16 years until British intervention.

The Pelupelu disagreement has been in existence for decades (a political formation of the British rather than traditional). The Alawe, Oluyin and few other first class Obas were cheated at the beginning and have been protesting this ever since, that any first class Oba should be able to become chairman of their council that has more than 100 Obas. The Pelupelu now has about 22 Obas and it was already gazetted before Fayemi's tenure. Some members like Deji of Akure had also left.

babyfaceafrica:
Aláàfin should have kept quiet too.. No be everything elder dey talk.. But this king and Fayemi no well!

I must tell u,he did the right thing...if you read his letter,he was giving fayemi and other governor's signal not to embark on what happened in the north as our traditional setting is very different from theirs.fayemi's move shows that political office holders are ready to disregard d traditional institution and as a first class king he needed to stand against it...I stand by his action.

Alaafin wey him house no clean wan clean another man house.

friday2011:


You don't need to know him, same way I dont even know if one alafin is somewhere in oyo state or in the forest.

Your alafin will soon get the insult he is looking for, if he doesn't stay away from ekiti.

Ekiti ati Agidi

[[s]quote author=VirginSearcher post=87452044]Makinde! the only politician I see in the whole South West anytime any day, God bless Oyo people for voting him.
Meanwhile Peter Obi/Kwankwaso/Zulum 2023[/quote][/s]

That is not the purpose of the thread.

Pls say something else that has relevant to the thread or just move to the next topic.