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Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by FOLYKAZE(m): 5:08pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
TATIME: I know that you deny your members right to life through blood transfusion and surgical operation. What could be more demeaning than that? I don't need you to teach me nonsense, baba Fela said that TATIME: By denying blood transfusion right? TATIME: Dream on TATIME: What of cars? TATIME: Twist the history, we go expose you once more. 1 Like |
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by Nobody: 5:14pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
TATIME: He wants to argue and he can see that all the churchgoers quoting him we're not the type that are fully competent in intellectual talks. So he wants to kill himself when he found one, even after telling him i'm not interested in his quest he can't rest. Is it a must that i argue, debate or discuss with you? OK i said "he won", but he's still feeling bad about the whole thing! Ó mà se o! |
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by FOLYKAZE(m): 5:15pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
TATIME: Ohhhh, he didn't attempted addressing the OP but he recommended two books published by jw, he provided fabrications and twisted history which led to Jewish revolt, he argued on the authorship of the gospels, he touched the contemporary accounts of other witnesses, and lastly talked about negligence of duty by Christians. On the negligence, I wanted to lure him in with the military relativity, it was a dead end where I will give him the heaviest blow. But you see, you can deny all you wanted, oju ek re ko ko lawo 1 Like |
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by FOLYKAZE(m): 5:18pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
Maximus69: Face-palm... What can we do to let you go? There is too many heartbreak in your posts. You no won discuss o, talk o, debate o... The shame dey your body, I already achieved what I wanted..abeg leave 1 Like |
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by Nobody: 5:21pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
FOLYKAZE: You know Maximus69 already told you we only make presentations and once we discover that you're not type we are searching for we move to the next door! If it's about arguments "you won and you will always win anytime, anyday, anywhere" because that's not our own mission! Thanks Mr FOLYKAZE! |
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by triplechoice(m): 5:23pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
TATIME: My comments about your group is based on my own personal experiences alone and I still stand by it. My younger sister is a witness and have friends who you witnesses too . Others may have their own contrary opinion about your group based on their own experiences. But the issue at hand has nothing whatsoever to with that . Maximus69 is no more interested in discussing the op but the benefits of his group the reason I asked he opens a thread for that and I will participate by mentioning some of that good things I know about your group. .Then others can also have the opportunity to say whatever they have to say too. Instead of this display of emotions, why don't you take your time to read my previous reply , analyze it and respond appropriately 1 Like |
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by Nobody: 5:23pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
FOLYKAZE: Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. What a relief! What should i say ooooooooo! Infact God bless you! I wish you success in your mission Sir! |
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by Nobody: 5:31pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
triplechoice:Your own blood sister embraced our group and you have seen the difference in comparison with other girls around who aren't members of our organization. You've spoken more than enough! Thanks for that. |
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by FOLYKAZE(m): 5:40pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
TATIME: Are we not saying same thing? That you are a soldier, who denying people lives through blood transfusion. The weapon is only doctrine today. Isn't it? 1 Like |
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by FOLYKAZE(m): 5:42pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
triplechoice: We were trying to be cool, like we don't know how devious they are. Max abeg create the thread, you go hear am 1 Like |
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by triplechoice(m): 5:43pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
FOLYKAZE: I am still shocked about the denial. I never expected this from him and even when all the evidences of his attempts are still there on this thread. Now, this Tatime is trying to turn everything into what I am yet to understand inspite of the fact that I have made my intentions clear to him And one final thing ,the JW I know offline don't act like the one's here. These group here are quick to cast aspersion, use abusive language and vieled insults once you don't agree with them 2 Likes |
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by FOLYKAZE(m): 5:53pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
triplechoice: Maximus69 is a very dubious person. Well, he only damaged his reputation on here, and any attempt at redeeming his image make it worsen. The obvious deceit and dishonesty is not a trait anyone would want to work with. He does not know the history of his religion, and now that he found the history is embarrassing, he is crawling back into his shell. As for TATIME, that one is doing the job of image laundry. And as much as he tries, he damage the reputation of jw as whole. This he doesn't understand. From bis writing, one would see he is a yes sir boy, typical zombie as Muttley depicted him. With his attitude, one could assume the whole organisation are packs of deluded and brainwashed folks. The JW are generally stubborn and dishonest people. They however veil this oddity with fake smiles and timidity. When you move closer, you would see their true nature, mostly deluded like every other Christians out there 1 Like |
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by FOLYKAZE(m): 5:57pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
@triplechoice The whole jw organisation are deluded. One of their publications, MANKIND SEARCH FOR GOD, posit that the evidence for the global flooding and noah ark is the multiple flooding myth, and their members believe it to the last letter. How could a reasonable person authenticate historicity of a story with multiple fables? 1 Like |
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by triplechoice(m): 7:04pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
FOLYKAZE: The only thing I read is the awake magazine The few times I tried to read their other publications were disappointing . It's difficult for me to accept what they contain. As for personal behavior,I really can't say much but one thing I know is that the members hardly get themselves involved in criminal activities .Outside this country ? don't know The one thing that puts me off is thier arrogance. They believe that no one outside thier group knows the truth 1 Like |
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by LordReed(m): 8:25pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
FOLYKAZE: Maximus69 is fabulous for telling stories, fabrications and revisionist history all to further JW propaganda. Yes Maximus69 tell us why the name Jehovah's witnesses only arose in the 19th century? I give you opportunity to tell us one of your fabulous stories. Bwahahahahaha! 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by Nobody: 8:59pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
LordReed: I just dey gbadun you because we fully understand each other. You see me as one who loves seeing benefits of whatever i do, and i see you as one who gather information even though you benefit nothing only just to keep such info in case of arguments in the future! I don't tamper with your interest as i appreciate you for you, and you also don't tamper with my interest. So we both respect each other's opinion! |
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by FOLYKAZE(m): 10:15pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
LordReed: Had every Christians questioned the historicity of the bible, and have vivid understanding of how Christian religion started, many would have seen that the religion is founded on fabrications, distorted history, and mainstream propaganda to keep the masses under an illusion. As you can see, not a single figure in the bible can be proven existed, most of the incidents are fictional, jesus life and activities inclusive. Jehovah/Yahweh is an invented God. The evolution of Christian God according to encyclopedia Britannica shows that Jehovah is not indigenous to Israel. Rather, he evolved from Canaanite divinity, been one of the 70 children of El (the Supreme deity of the canaans). According to the Britannica, Yahweh/Jehovah is a name invented by the Masorets in the 13th centuries. The actual name, Christian apologist claim, is forbidden from been pronounced or have been forgotten. But how could the population of the whole Israel forget the name of the God they worship every sabbath day (every weeks) year round? The actual name of Yahweh according to the Urgarit text is Olim. He is the God of the hills. He coexisted with other Gods like Baal, and his cohort is Asherah. History reveals that Israelites worship Asherah, Baal and other Canaan Gods side by side with Yahweh. The bible writers hide the name 'Olim' to remove traces that Yahweh originated from Canaan, and makes it seem it appeared nowhere with Israel. But if one noticed, Yahweh only appeared to Moses, and he informed Moses that he appeared to his forefathers but none know his name. Moses also did not know his named be forgotten hand. The reason is Israel, been a small village in Canaan were aware of El and worship it. El is represented as Bull, and if one noticed, Israelite built the image of a calf and worshipped it when Moses was nowhere to be found. The worship of other Canaan Gods was stopped by King Josiah according to the bible. They worship Baal too and bore names after Baal. I guess Jonathan son were named after Baal. Jehovah only took the epithet of El and Baal (God of the wind). And whoever revised Olim came up with Yahweh/Jehovah out of Olim in Canaan. Moreso, most of fhe figures like Noah, Moses, Samson, Daniel and Jesus have parallels in the Urgarit text. As a matter of fact, the discovery of the Urgarit text have exposed Christianity as fraud, Jehovah been Inventions and the accounts in the bible as largely fabrications. Our in-house witnesses would want to tell us how Jehovah came out of nothing, not evolving and changed swiftly from been sucker in the old testament to been lovely in new testament. Who ever invented all these is brilliant, at least, he deceived billions of human and sent some to heaven as martyrs |
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by LordReed(m): 12:57am On Mar 19, 2020 |
Maximus69: Ah you don't want to tell us story today? That's serious o! LMFAO! 2 Likes |
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by LordReed(m): 1:00am On Mar 19, 2020 |
FOLYKAZE: When you tell them they believe in a fairytale they'll get angry. These are the things you learn and know how separate reality from falsehood. |
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by Nobody: 3:56am On Mar 19, 2020 |
LordReed: Our friend (FOLYKAZE) said JW's publication 'MANKIND SEARCH FOR GOD' said "there were myths throughout the earth about a global deluge" and it sounds preposterous to him, but let me tell you today that that's the very statement i read in the same Publication that ever touched my heart most! You asked for a fairytale my friend, now here comes one Sir just for your pleasure! After reading the Jehovah's Witnesses Publication 'MANKIND SEARCH FOR GOD' i became disturbed about the authenticity of that Bible account, initially i wanted to dismiss it as just another fairytale but 'MANKIND SEARCH FOR GOD' truly moved me! They said "there are myths throughout the earth about a global deluge" i once asked my grandma the meaning of the Yoruba word or title "Omolúwàbí", she simply told me back then (as i was just twelve) that there was a virtuous man named Luwa, his children were the most virtuous during that time, so it became an adage whenever people find a virtuous person they'll say in Yoruba "Dájúdàjú omo tí Lúwà bí gangan ni eléyìí" Meaning:- "Certainly this must be a descendants of Luwa" Till today Yoruba people keep calling virtuous individuals "Omo' Lúwà bí" It was almost 20 years later when i read that statement in the Publication 'MANKIND SEARCH FOR GOD' i couldn't hold my tears as to the authenticity of Noah's story! Jesus also spoke concerning that same story and i'm 100% sure that my friend (FOLYKAZE) must have read it several times in his copy of the Bible. So if FOLYKAZE doesn't believe the book, i Maximus believe it completely from the bottom of my heart because i can't find any better explanation to the reason why Yoruba people keep referring to individuals living a virtuous lifestyle as OMOLÚWÀBÍ ! Hope you enjoy my story today Sir, Thanks! 2 Likes |
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by LordReed(m): 5:44am On Mar 19, 2020 |
Maximus69: Bwahahahahaha! Luwa is Noah? OMFD! Max you don't disappoint when it comes to storytelling. Bwahahahahaha! Meanwhile: https://findwords.info/term/omoluabi What is "omoluabi" The Omoluabi is a Yoruba philosophical and cultural concept to describe a person of good character. The omoluabi concept signifies courage, hard work, humility and respect. An omoluabi is a person of honor who believes in hard work, respects the rights of others, and gives to the community in deeds and in action. Above all, an Omoluabi is a person of integrity. The concept Omoluabi is an adjectival Yoruba phrase, which has the words - "Omo + ti + Olu-iwa + bi" as its components. Literally translated and separately, omo means 'child', ti means 'that or which', Olu-iwa means the chief or master of Iwa (character), bi means 'born'. When combined, Omoluabi translates as "the baby begotten by the chief of iwa". Such a child is thought of as a paragon of excellence in character. |
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by Nobody: 6:18am On Mar 19, 2020 |
LordReed: Wonderful! So that means you (Professor LordReed) who is NOT a Yoruba man, who often use Google to translate English to Yoruba can also use Google to translate Yoruba fairytales, indigenous adages and concepts to English! Well congratulations Sir, you're welcome to the club of story tellers, you successfully fabricated your own version of the story! For your information Sir, the ancient Yorùbá people often use L to pronounce names and other things that's transliterated from N, you can check your Yorùbá Bible to confirm this. Nimrod in the Bible is known as Lámurúdu in Yorùbá, he was a great hunter according to the Bible who forcefully made himself a king amongst the first people that lived after Noah. And perhaps what a coincidence that Odùduwà was said to have been a direct descendant of Lámurúdu (Nimrod)? All the descendants of Odùduwà were allowed to continue ruling as Kings everywhere they stepped their feet, he gave birth to Òkànbí, Òkànbí had seven sons and these seven were the authentic Kings in all the land of Yorúbá. Perhaps that's also a coincidence Sir, remember the adage that says "kò ní tán lára omo oba kó má ku dáñ sákì" meaning "the royal lineage must be maintained". Well it's the fear Lámurúdu (Nimrod) infused in the minds of the people of that time that led to initiating some as royalty in all the earth, take it or leave it! 2 Likes |
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by LordReed(m): 6:25am On Mar 19, 2020 |
Maximus69: Don't allow dumbness overtake you this early in the day. LMFAO! |
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by Nobody: 6:37am On Mar 19, 2020 |
LordReed: OK Sir, i'll try not to allow that Sir! It just baffles me how a none Yorùbá man like you (Professor LordReed) could have master the Google for translation so we'll Sir! |
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by Dantedasz(m): 7:15am On Mar 19, 2020 |
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Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by Nobody: 7:17am On Mar 19, 2020 |
Maximus69: Don't mind these atheists. They assume everyone will be selfish and wicked as they are! They're only interested in what they will eat, drink, wear and sleep today. They don't want to think about the future because to them there is no future. When they now found someone seriously meditating on what the future holds they feel like attacking you but they have no valid reason to do so. That is why they want to write off whatever has to do with God as nonsense. Imagine an atheist talking about virtue but why should people be virtuous? His friend said there is no need, people should be prepared to die in hopelessness. Yet this one is talking about VIRTUE, when we all know that earthly conditions doesn't support being virtuous. So why being virtuous, when there is no reward afterwards? ATHEISM is just as useless as insanity! |
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by Nobody: 7:29am On Mar 19, 2020 |
TATIME: Good morning bro! I just love this forum Sir, it helps know the thoughts of most people out there. Now i understand why they always say "i'm busy" or "i have my own religion". When they're behind faceless social media they open their dirty minds to the public after all no one is seeing their hopeless faces. But in the neighborhood they'll appear as if they're normal humans having good intentions. "Die hard like Abimelech and Saul" he says, all because nobody is seeing his hopeless face, perhaps he could say that in the presence of right thinking persons and expect to be taken seriously afterwards like a sane individual! |
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by MuttleyLaff: 7:51am On Mar 19, 2020 |
Maximus69: LordReed: Maximus69: [img]https://s5/images/Omoluwabi.jpg[/img] |
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by MuttleyLaff: 7:51am On Mar 19, 2020 |
TATIME:Good on you that you love the tune. Shows you have good taste in thought provoking and conscious music that frees the mind, uplifts and elevates the spirit. The lyrical message in that tune though, sings about the sheeple mentality, creating awareness and imparting knowledge about the wrong of being at someone's beck and call, taking orders, just as if like being a zombie. I am sure you know that, lol. TATIME:If I should hask you where from in the Bible anyone is reminded that they are CHRISTIANS, I am 1000% sure you would begin getting raising a sweat, start chopping teeth, began to fidget and swear under your breath and still not able to show any ounce of proof of this. Of course, I'll give you the fact that we are advised to be like a soldier(s). TATIME:I'll accept the blessings, thank you, however I'll be lying to you if you think I am taken in by your false appreciation, which merely and totally is nothing more than an attempt at damage control and/or damage limitation, just as others like FOLYKAZE too have noticed is what you're playing at. Like, you've been suspected by another interlocutor on this thread, only God knows what else you are behind closed doors, up to and/or what other secular socially conscious music you listen to, lol, that the sheeple like Maximus69 are unaware of you listen to, lol Notice that the person who knows that tune fits and describes him to a tee, has kept mute, lol because of the home truth lyrical content of the tune, lol |
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by LordReed(m): 7:55am On Mar 19, 2020 |
TATIME: Dumbness has overtaken you this early morning. Damn! LMFAO! 1 Like |
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by Nobody: 8:14am On Mar 19, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: Back then in the late 80s and early 90s when we do visit the Shrine, that track was the hit that almost everyone love Abami eda to sing for us. Surprisingly even military personnels also visiting the shrine love it's lyrics. So if soldiers serving under unrighteous human commanders are loyally dancing to songs meant to downgrade them with joy, how do you suggest a soldier serving under a righteous commander should respond knowing fully well that you're saying it truthfully after observing his loyal submission to our righteous King? May God bless you MuttleyLaff for reminding me that i'm one of the LOYAL soldiers of Christ! 2Corinthians 11:23; Matthew 5:11-12 And thanks to my brother Maximus who enlighten me on how soldiers (ever loyal) do feel! 1 Like |
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by Nobody: 8:15am On Mar 19, 2020 |
LordReed: Thanks for the compliments! |
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