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Re: In Benin, The Governor Kneels To Greet The King, But Not So In Other Kingdoms.. by macof(m): 12:45am On Mar 18, 2020 |
Louisboy22: Nonsense. This story has been trashed multiple times. No matter how many times you say it, it won't magically turn to history 6 Likes |
Re: In Benin, The Governor Kneels To Greet The King, But Not So In Other Kingdoms.. by davidnazee: 2:58am On Mar 18, 2020 |
TAO11: You are indeed funny.. you saw a sentence in one document that said Benin kings paid homage to Ife kings and you are jubilating. keep it up. I won’t argue Benin’s Greatness and Might with you because you already know that. I’m only wondering why u are praising small Ife instead of Oyo.. in your small mind was Ife imperial to Oyo too? |
Re: In Benin, The Governor Kneels To Greet The King, But Not So In Other Kingdoms.. by orisa37: 5:18am On Mar 18, 2020 |
THIS BENI TRADITION IS GOOD CULTURE. |
Re: In Benin, The Governor Kneels To Greet The King, But Not So In Other Kingdoms.. by Sewgon79(m): 6:28am On Mar 18, 2020 |
davidnazee: Ifè gave birth to Oyo and all the Yoruba First class town including Ilé Ibinu 3 Likes |
Re: In Benin, The Governor Kneels To Greet The King, But Not So In Other Kingdoms.. by Sewgon79(m): 8:11am On Mar 18, 2020 |
davidnazee: Stop deceiving yourself. Oba of Benin was once dethrone and banished to calabar. Yes google it, you will see it there. It is only Oonirisa that have never been dethrone before and I say it, nobody can. 2 Likes |
Re: In Benin, The Governor Kneels To Greet The King, But Not So In Other Kingdoms.. by Sewgon79(m): 8:18am On Mar 18, 2020 |
Meninmen: Point of correction, it is not only Ọba of Benin, even Elegushi rule by every first born 1 Like |
Re: In Benin, The Governor Kneels To Greet The King, But Not So In Other Kingdoms.. by Sewgon79(m): 8:30am On Mar 18, 2020 |
Meninmen: Why is it that, you guys use ỌBA for your KING, less I forget ọba is YORUBA name for King. It shows you guys inherit our tradition and KINGSHIP STYLE through ORANMIYAN. Secondly, do you realise that OONIRISA was recognised as Imperial Monarch by Carribean countries, Cuba, Brazil, Trinidad and Tobago, Venezuela, etc They even recognised OONIRISA as their King and Spiritual Leader. Make una tell these village people that in Ife, world leaders prostrate for Ooni. Obasanjo Brazilian Ambassador Cuban Ambassador Una take ordinary Governor kneel as some achievement. mmmmtchhheewww..... I am waiting for how many country that recognise your Ọba. Why is that it is only your King that is using Ọba in your locality. It shows where you get that name from. 2 Likes |
Re: In Benin, The Governor Kneels To Greet The King, But Not So In Other Kingdoms.. by Nobody: 10:38am On Mar 18, 2020 |
Sewgon79: Lol. Who is elegushi? Read and understand b4 replying. I said the oba of benin is the only first class king that inherits the throne by Birth. Is Elegushi a first class king? Oba of Benin, The Emir of Kano, Sultan of sokoto, Obi of Onitsha, ooni of ife, Alaafin of oyo, etc are the first class Kings I know. Who be Elegushi? 1 Like |
Re: In Benin, The Governor Kneels To Greet The King, But Not So In Other Kingdoms.. by Nobody: 11:01am On Mar 18, 2020 |
Sewgon79: Talking thrash! Oba is an Edo word meaning "ruler". Go and ask read how the Binis founded Lagos? Do you know why Lagos is called " Eko"? You talk of oonirisa, and world leaders prostrate for ooni bla bla bla. You know nothing. Is it not Ooni that they appoint like a political appointee? Come to Bini and see tradition. Nobody appoints the oba of Benin. He is Oba because his is the first son of a previous oba. No governor or king maker can change it. Oba of Lagos is appointed by the Lagos governor. In fact, the current oba of Lagos is a boy to Tinubu. The ooni of ife Is appointed from a ruling house that is based on political considerations. The governor can jettison the choice of the king makers and appoint his choice. Same with the Alaafin of Oyo. Please, when people talk of real monarchy, you people Should keep quite 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: In Benin, The Governor Kneels To Greet The King, But Not So In Other Kingdoms.. by Ruby5: 1:47pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
Re: In Benin, The Governor Kneels To Greet The King, But Not So In Other Kingdoms.. by Nobody: 5:55pm On Mar 18, 2020 |
Sewgon79: You are not well informed, the Oba of Benin lost a war against britain, and got exiled to calabar by the british victors. He didn't get dethroned. Any government can lose power after losing a war, the nigerian government, the usa government, the british government... Some people in the media are having you guys confuse losing a war with being dethroned by a governor in the nigerian set up. |
Re: In Benin, The Governor Kneels To Greet The King, But Not So In Other Kingdoms.. by abeeee(m): 1:51am On Mar 19, 2020 |
When the last oba died and was to be buried in 2016 it was said that nobody should where caps in Benin Bross I think say tradition done pass Nobody flaunted the other all our lectures in uniben then complied even those aboki for ring ring road and mission road comply If they ristrict movement for any traditional propose nobody dears disobey If you wan know how much they reverence their oba enter ring road or new Benin and say foul against the oba .......them go cut your head nothing go happen I repeat nothing go happen Nothing 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: In Benin, The Governor Kneels To Greet The King, But Not So In Other Kingdoms.. by TAO11(f): 11:12pm On Mar 19, 2020 |
ghostwon: Hahaha See the amount of gymnastics on top the ineffectual damage control. More like someone who says: "I wasn't removed as the senior prefect of the school, I was only expelled from the school." 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: In Benin, The Governor Kneels To Greet The King, But Not So In Other Kingdoms.. by TAO11(f): 12:08am On Mar 20, 2020 |
ghostwon: First of all, the British engaged in what historians called a punitive expedition (assuming now that you understand how this term contrasts with actual warfare between contenders). History books call it The Benin Massacre for a reason (assuming now that you understand what the term massacre means). So, stop lying to yourself (and yet believing it) that Benin contended in warfare with the British troops. No! It was as the case of IPOB being on the verge of extermination, and at the mercy of The Nigerian Army. Benin was at the time being "punished" for its attrocities committed against some non-combatant representatives of the British. The Oba had learnt that he was to be sentenced to death by hanging. He thus ran for dear life to seek refuge in the thicket of the forest. He remained there for months to come, while all life (and non-life) in his town was about to be wiped off forever. The Oba came out of hiding months later to formally surrender, upon which he was exiled from his own town despite his intense pleading. The same British government immediately appointed the Obaseki to continue acting as the Oba of Benin immediately following Ovanramwen's banishment. How else should Ovanramwen have been dethroned by the British government? If the 1897 "punitive expedition" against Benin had happened in our modern times, the British would have been charged for genocide/crime against humanity. In sum, stop painting a false picture as though Benin was contending in some warfare with the British in 1897. No, that would be a completely deluded and insanely idiotic conclusion to make from the glaring history. Take care of yourself emotional boy. I understand how you feel. I have been there. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: In Benin, The Governor Kneels To Greet The King, But Not So In Other Kingdoms.. by davidnazee: 4:36am On Mar 20, 2020 |
TAO11: You really have no brain. You obviously don’t know why it was called Benin Massacre or what Massacre it refers to. The name Benin Massacre describes the massacre of the British forces (captain Phillip and his soldiers) that tried to enter Benin despite being warned not to.. The Benin Massacre was what lead to the British punitive expedition and it was indeed a war.. The British acknowledged it so. Naming it punitive expedition doesn’t mean it’s not a war. So before you spend your time writing long rubbish try to get your facts right and have understanding.. or better still, use your time to mastubatee and leave Benin alone. You can’t change history. If you want to be excited I can tell u stories of Benin’s many wars in Yorubaland.. our many conquests and enslavement of Yorubas. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: In Benin, The Governor Kneels To Greet The King, But Not So In Other Kingdoms.. by Dedetwo(m): 4:50am On Mar 20, 2020 |
What was known as Oba of Benin ended in 1897. Whatever comes today is a complete fake. The Obas and Emirs were discarded when British showed up. |
Re: In Benin, The Governor Kneels To Greet The King, But Not So In Other Kingdoms.. by TAO11(f): 5:05am On Mar 20, 2020 |
davidnazee: You're simply too dumb to be alive. Anyway, refer to the words in the attachement below perhaps you may be resuscitated. It is made clear in the attached, just as I have mentioned earlier, that the The Benin Massacre is one and the same thing as the Punitive Expedition. I guess you're so pained now. Lol. Yes, you may first tell me about why the kings of Benin kingdom pay homage to Ile-Ife, and why they regard the kings of Ile-Ife as their overlord. Hide your face in shame! 5 Likes 1 Share
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Re: In Benin, The Governor Kneels To Greet The King, But Not So In Other Kingdoms.. by DabuIIIT: 10:57am On Mar 20, 2020 |
HAKYN1: What about the one that fell yakata from the sky? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: In Benin, The Governor Kneels To Greet The King, But Not So In Other Kingdoms.. by davidnazee: 1:03pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
TAO11: Mugu mugu.. u are dumb sha. I’m only pained at ur stupidity.. u claim to be educated but just a simple research u cannot do to get your facts right... people like you are irritants. Try do a proper search on google if u know how to. Maybe u will find the true account of the event written by the only British survivor of that massacre. 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: In Benin, The Governor Kneels To Greet The King, But Not So In Other Kingdoms.. by TAO11(f): 1:41pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
davidnazee: Lol. I already anticipated that you will come up with this Wikipedia source Yes, I understand you're at the Wikipedia level "research", but that's not even the bigger problem. The bigger problem is that even your Wikipedia source page, from where your anonymous webpage lifted has the correct definition in the very first lines at the top before it then contradicts itself many, many lines later. So, your sickness is beyond just incompetence as per your amateurish/kindergarten level Wikipedia so-called research; your sickness is indeed more about the following: 1. The fact that you conveniently feigned blind and scrolled away from the very point that demolishes your sentiment right there and then on the Wikipedia source page your source was lifting from. The foregoing is called lying to yourself and yet believing it. 2. The fact that at this stage of your life, you will perhaps be hearing it for the first time that Wikipedia is a free encyclopedia editable by the public. This explains why it contains two contradictory information --- one that you dislike at the very opening lines. 3. The fact that your secondary source is unknown and anonymous and non-reputable. 4. The fact that anything on the internet, to you is, fact regrdless whether or not the source is authoritative, anonymous, or known. 3. The fact that I have to explain all these to you. Hold on! How old are you? It becomes clear, at this point, that a fellow overzealous Benin lying maraduer like your low-life self must have edited in that last bit which not only contradicts the same Wikipedia source page from where he was lifting, but also contradicts every reputable available historical resources on the Benin Massacre. For details, see the source Wikipedia page in the link below: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benin_Expedition_of_1897 Also notice the opening lines, and the latter contradictory lines as shown in the two screenshots below. I guess Arugba Stanley is the only Britush survivor you're reffering to. Because all I see in your attachment is obviously a very dirty and yet poor edo-washing job for Benin kingdom on therabbitisin.com by him. 4 Likes 1 Share
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Re: In Benin, The Governor Kneels To Greet The King, But Not So In Other Kingdoms.. by davidnazee: 2:01pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
TAO11: Lol.. see this foolish Yoruba boy.. You write about things u know nothing about. How are u able to even write such long essay full of nonsense. You use Wikipedia as your reference yet u critize same Wikipedia? If u believe Benin Massacre is the same thing as the punitive expedition that’s your choice, good for u.. I’m not trying to convince u, only educate u. If it was an exam question that will save your life that’s how u will fail woefully. I told u before, do a simple research maybe u will get some knowledge and understanding if u do. It is easy to see that you are not knowledgeable at all. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: In Benin, The Governor Kneels To Greet The King, But Not So In Other Kingdoms.. by TAO11(f): 2:11pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
davidnazee: 1. No, I did not use Wikipedia as my reference. 2. No, I do not merely believe what I stated (with evidence) about The Benin Massacre --- i.e. that it is also known as The Punitive Expedition. I know it as a fact just as every sane person, who knows even a bit about history. 3. You are yet to provide any reputable historical source which says that the punitive expedition is different from the Benin Massacre. Note: By "reputable historical source" I obviously do not refer to Arugba Stanley of therabbitisin.com. Please provide something dependable and meaningful. I am patiently waiting. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: In Benin, The Governor Kneels To Greet The King, But Not So In Other Kingdoms.. by Dedetwo(m): 2:42pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
davidnazee: The few British contingent made up of civil servants were ambushed and murdered. There was nothing massacre about the coldblooded murder of few British contingent. The real Benin Massacre came during the British punitive expedition after the coldblooded murder of the British contingent that saw the sack of Benin where men, women, children, houses and so-called Oba Palace were burnt down. Even few shrines and deities did not escape the vexation of British Imperial army. 4 Likes |
Re: In Benin, The Governor Kneels To Greet The King, But Not So In Other Kingdoms.. by davidnazee: 2:42pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
TAO11: You claim to be learned so you should be able to do a simple research yourself without coming up with only Wikipedia results. The only thing I can tell you is that Benin Massacre refers to the killing of captain Philips and his troops and the Punitive expedition is the result of the massacre.. I’m actually surprised at your level of ignorance sha.. someone like u that have time to write long essays shouldn’t be this ignorant and dumb. I sorry for u. Anyways go to google, type in the Benin Massacre and when results come up don’t just run to Wikipedia results but scroll down couple results you should find accurate details of the event.. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: In Benin, The Governor Kneels To Greet The King, But Not So In Other Kingdoms.. by davidnazee: 3:03pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
Dedetwo: So your jealousy and envy of Benin as eaten into your brain now u are delusional.. u call armed British invaders civil servants? Captain is title for civil servants? sergeant is civil servants? Run away boy. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: In Benin, The Governor Kneels To Greet The King, But Not So In Other Kingdoms.. by TAO11(f): 3:03pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
davidnazee: First of all: Nobody cares about what YOU particularly have to say. Rather, what any sane mind is interested in is what THE HISTORICAL SOURCES have to say. And so far as I have since demonstrated from the outset (not from Wikipedia), The Benin Massacre is one and the same thing as The Punitive Expedition of 1897. Secondly: For the umpteenth time, I never adduced Wikipedia as my evidence. Moreover, why are your so-called results from Google so difficult to post here as you often do? All along you've been freely attaching screenshots, e.g. screenshot from Arugba Stanley of therabbitisin.com. But all of a sudden your hands became too heavy that it cannot attach (or even reference) the very "google" result that will show the supposed "accurate details of the event". The foregoing cheap excuse obviously sounds very familiar and typical. Bye-bye. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: In Benin, The Governor Kneels To Greet The King, But Not So In Other Kingdoms.. by davidnazee: 3:26pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
TAO11: I won’t give u any reference because it’s obvious it won’t make any difference to u especially as you don’t even know how the name “Benin Massacre” came about. FYI “Benin Massacre” is title of the book written by the survivor from captain Philips crew. That’s when that name was first used, he wrote a book describing the events of that day. He was the one that named that event Benin Massacre and since then people like you confuse it to mean the punitive expedition. If you are wise you will know that the British will never use the term “Massacre” to describe any of their atrocities in Africa. Anyways like I said earlier, you are dumb and won’t understand so bye little boy. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: In Benin, The Governor Kneels To Greet The King, But Not So In Other Kingdoms.. by TAO11(f): 3:53pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
davidnazee: First of all: I knew all along that you won't provide any reference to buttress your imagination that the Benin Massacre is something different from the Punitive Expedition of 1897. You know how I know this? Because there is no such reference anywhere in historical sources ... oh ... except from Arugba Stanley's blog post. I knew you will only be ingenious with familiar and typical cheap excuses as I have seen the trend began in your prior comment. Lol. Secondly: No one is asking you to explain where the term was first used or who first used it. No, that's the kind of distraction that a loser will typically bring up and cling to just to veil his loss and console himself. No, the issue here is about what the term means. And as I have demonstrated from the outset with evidence, the Benin Massacre is one and the same thing as the Punitive Expedition of 1897. I wish you all the best in your ongoing battle with reality. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: In Benin, The Governor Kneels To Greet The King, But Not So In Other Kingdoms.. by TAO11(f): 4:20pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
It's been some time that I've been hoping to create a quite detailed academic thread on the primacy and the imperial might of ancient Ife in the West Africa region. People generally tend to over-focus their attention solely on Oyo and Benin kingdoms, thus often ignoring the fact that before these two kingdoms attained "imperial" status (or even before they were founded), the West African region had a military, economic, artistic, and religious advanced super power --- Ife. In fact, the insult gets more worrissom when some even dare to ask who is greater Ooni or Alaafin? Some even ask Ooni or Oba of Benin? It's no more than asking which is brighter: a sunny day or a moonless night? These unfortunate comparisons pop-up on Nairaland, I think because, most discussions about ancient Ife almost always centers around the mythical aspects only with little or no academic substantiation. It's hightime amateurish non-acadamic pseudo-historical narratives are dropped for good, and history is presented as it was, and as is been preserved in extant historical sources. Someone should please guide me with a simple step-by-step procedure to creating a thread.This topic is long overdue. I am obviously not very savvy with interacting with this platform. Thanks! cc: Olu317 Obalufon ImperialYoruba Sewgon79 2fine2fast Amujale gregyboy ghostwon 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: In Benin, The Governor Kneels To Greet The King, But Not So In Other Kingdoms.. by Amujale(m): 4:22pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
dietola01: Civilisation begins in Africa. Firstly the Office of the Kingdom is always ranked higher than any individual. Governor Obaseki seems to be exhibiting a great amount of attentiveness and decorum. Given that historically, the Royal Office ranks higher than any civilian administrative office that maybe out there, then its only fair for the Governor to show the necessary respect to ensure the protection and as well stand out as a beacon to the rest of the continent. Governor Obaseki is correct, the Royal Office is due these type of respect coming out of the civil service. Secondly, eventhough Governor Obaseki is absolutely correct with his actions to repecting the Royal Office, his actions could aswell be interpreted as humbleness. Furthermore, let such act as a reminder to Governor Obaseki as he reminds his colleaugues who it is that they are meant to serve. 2 Likes |
Re: In Benin, The Governor Kneels To Greet The King, But Not So In Other Kingdoms.. by davidnazee: 5:15pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
TAO11: Since u like giving references why don’t u give a reference or show any academic work or documentations that says the Benin Massacre and the Benin punitive expedition is the same thing. show just one and then maybe I will give u the many references that u so desire. they are 2 different events that are related (one led to the other).. The massacre that was referred to in Benin Massacre is the massacre of captain Phillip and his entourage and this led to the Punitive Expedition.. But u too dumb to understand.. 1 Like 1 Share |
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