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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 12:34am On Mar 23, 2020 |
TiAd:They have been no other attempts since 1907. That man is the only one who thinks the soul has weight. Can you provide links of other scientist who have attempted to weigh the soul of a man since then. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 12:36am On Mar 23, 2020 |
Godx:You didn't take time to read the whole article on Wikipedia. "Similar experiments In December 2001, physicist Lewis E. Hollander Jr. published an article in Journal of Scientific Exploration where he exhibited the results of a similar experiment. He tested the weight of one ram, seven ewes, three lambs and one goat at the moment of death, seeking to explore upon MacDougall's purpored findings. His experiment showed that seven of the adult sheep varied their weight upon dying, though not losing it, but rather gaining an amount of 18 to 780 grams, which was lost again over time until returning to their initial weight.[10] In 2009, this experiment was subjected to critical review by Masayoshi Ishida in the same journal. Ishida found Hollander's statement of a transient gain of weight was "not an appropriate expression of the experimental result", though he admitted "the cause of the force event remains to be explained". He also warned about possible malfunctions of the in two of the cases.[11] Similarly inspired by MacDougall's research, physician Gerard Nahum proposed in 2005 a follow-up experiment, based on utilizing an array of electromagnetic detectors to try to pick up any type of escaping energy at the moment of death. He offered to sell his idea to engineering, physics, and philosophy departments at Yale, Stanford, and Duke universities, as well as the Catholic Church, but he was rejected.[12]" Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/21_grams_experiment |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 12:50am On Mar 23, 2020 |
TiAd:Animals don't have souls. I said experiments on measuring the soul of a man as you earlier informed us. They have been none at all. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 1:08am On Mar 23, 2020 |
Mehn! This Tiad guy is completely deluded. I pray God helps you to see the light and not be part of the army that will want to fight an already lost battle. 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:06am On Mar 23, 2020 |
Greatihex:Is this one okay? A religionist is calling me deluded. Stay out of my mentions. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:12am On Mar 23, 2020 |
Godx:Only some religionists believe that, especially Muslims and Christians. There are many things those ones believe, but the reality is different. If a living thing (whether humans, animals, plants, microbes) has no soul, then it's not living. Every living thing is conscious in its own way. All living things are powered by a soul/spirit (consciousness). Souls have different groups, human group, animal group, plant group, etc. If a living thing has no soul or consciousness, then it can't die. But just like humans die, animals, microbes, insects, plants, etc. also die. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 6:39am On Mar 23, 2020 |
TiAd:Soul is a concept of religious beliefs not science. You are always saying things you are not sure of and with no source/link. Most if not all scientist don't believe in the supernatural and in the concept of a soul. A soul is not the same thing as consciousness. Can you show us a link or source were scientist grouped souls into different groups because it's starting to look like you just drop things that come into your mind. Now on the other hand you have failed to provide any other experiment by scientist performing the 21gram experiment on a man which tells me all I need to know. 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon: 7:07am On Mar 23, 2020 |
Griffon: How about checking out my point number one? Pay attention.
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spillo1: 8:11am On Mar 23, 2020 |
LMFAO........ Alex Jones have corrupted this one head. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 8:17am On Mar 23, 2020 |
spillo1:Eddie bravo is still the worst conspiracy theorist in the entire world not even Jones. The crazy part is how confidently he will say dumb shittt like the Earth is flat with complete conviction. Even when shown live satellite images, he thinks all the space agencies are working together to fabricate a lie. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 8:19am On Mar 23, 2020 |
Godx:You're the one that needs to check the way you understand what I am saying. You can't discuss consciousness (a scientific concept) without mentioning soul (a philosophical concept). You can't have one without the other. It's not possible for a being without a soul (dead) to be conscious (alive and aware). Wonder why philosophy and logic is a core course for all aspiring scientists at the undergraduate level? Many scientific concepts today had their roots in philosophy (in the traditional sense of it). Godx:The Wikipedia link I gave is what? Your view of the soul is what you need to check. If only humans have soul, then why does death affect all living things? Godx:Most, if not all scientists, believe there are phenomena that seem mysterious because there is little scientific understanding about them. You can call such things "spiritual", "supernatural". Those are mere names that denote our current level of scientific knowledge about them. When we get more scientific knowledge and make more discoveries about them, they will become normal things, nothing supernatural or mysterious any longer. FYI, there was a time in human history that diseases were seen as spiritual attacks from a deity and needed to be treated by things such as prayers, offering a sacrifice to appease a diety, etc. Today, they've become normal (natural) phenomena, and only the ignorant ones hold that archaic notion now. Thunder, lightning, rain, etc. were all seen as supernatural events in the past; today, the story is different. And humans are even learning to induce these things (creating them artificially). Do you think scientific understanding of consciousness will stay the same in the next 50-100 years? That's unrealistic, when some scientists have already started conducting studies and research on it for some years now. Godx:You don't seem to know much about philosophy, which is why you can't separate a concept in philosophy (soul) from that in science (consciousness). Godx:It all boils down to your understanding of consciousness (or soul philosophically speaking), which seems flawed. The scientists that performed the experiments in that Wikipedia link felt living things like animals are conscious (aware), hence they've a soul. Unless you are a religionist, you would have to present something extraordinary to show that a living thing isn't conscious or aware of its surroundings and hence has no soul. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spillo1: 8:29am On Mar 23, 2020 |
Godx:LMFAO.... Conspiracy theorist are the worst. They won't listen to anything rather than their own believe. Some even believe the Earth is not a planet. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by seankafor(m): 8:38am On Mar 23, 2020 |
Humans bout to go extinct
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon: 8:44am On Mar 23, 2020 |
Godx: Yes SARS but Contagion relates most directly with the current danger. The 2011 film "Contagion" opens to the sound of a woman coughing, she had just returned to Minnesota with a strange illness after a trip to Hong Kong. Flashback in the movie shows how the fictional virus emerged — with a bat in China infecting a pig that is later handled by a chef at a Macau casino, who transits the virus to a customer, played by Paltrow, by shaking her hand. So far, health officials have traced the coronavirus to a “wet market” in Wuhan, China, a large seafood and animal market. The movie's MEV-1 virus is a zoonotic disease, meaning it jumped from animals to people. In the film, it spreads from a bat to a pig sold at an outdoor Chinese market, before hopping to Emhoff. According to experts, the new coronavirus is also zoonotic disease that started in bats. It likely jumped to people via an intermediary species - most probably pork meat. Coincidence or predictive programming? 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 8:52am On Mar 23, 2020 |
TiAd:Science deals with phenomena that can be objectively observed and measured. The soul, by contrast, cannot be observed or measured because it is immaterial. Soul beliefs belong to the realms of religion not science. You are just reaching by saying scientist will work with a soul or even create one. Religious sect beliefs in the existence of a soul while up till now there is in fact no credible evidence supporting the existence of the soul by scientist. Being aware of your environment and how you react to it is different from having a soul. Animals don't have souls neither do plants because when they die that's end unlike Man. The original concept of a soul comes from theological experts not philosophers. Theological experts believe in life after death which breed the concept of a soul that lives on after a person dies. The current scientific paradigm doesn't recognize this spiritual dimension of life. We are just the activity of carbon and some proteins; we live awhile and die according to scientist. Your understanding of soul is flawed. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 8:57am On Mar 23, 2020 |
Godx:Sounding closed minded like a religionist. There will be more advances in many emerging fields in science in the future, consciousness inclusive. Change is the only constant thing in life, as philosopher Heraclitus said. What people called "nothing" in the 18th century became known as "something" in modern times with the invention of powerful microscopes. In the same vein, what we call "nothing" today will become "something" in the future when more inventions and discoveries are made. Enough said. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 9:00am On Mar 23, 2020 |
Griffon:Coronavirus is a strand from the SARS virus that mutated so definitely they are going to be concidence with a movie acted about SARS. Scientist have predicated and warned China for years that a disease is likely to come from them base on the country culture and unhygienic markets. Here is a copy of research work carried it in 2007. 2 Likes
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 9:05am On Mar 23, 2020 |
Godx:Nice submission. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 9:08am On Mar 23, 2020 |
spillo1:I am all for conspiracy but the flat Earth thing doesn't make any sense to me. The FES started as a thought experiment/social experiment to take an indefensible position but now the flat Earth society are just trolls. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by elrony(m): 9:24am On Mar 23, 2020 |
See wetin lack of football dey cause, even person wey never handle microscope before dey force people to swallow him okwu nyoko!!! 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Swissh: 9:28am On Mar 23, 2020 |
Godx:At some point, the entire world is going to confront China over this. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 9:42am On Mar 23, 2020 |
Griffon, see your fellow conspiracy theorist, do you believe what he has postulated? mitchellwealth: |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 9:47am On Mar 23, 2020 |
elrony:Your comment only shows the sorry state of Nigeria's system of education. Nothing surprising to find that many Nigerian students attended secondary schools without a science lab, let alone scientific tools like a light microscope. But don't make the mistake of thinking every nler attended such schools. A number of schools in Nigeria have labs equipped with a light microscope. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 9:53am On Mar 23, 2020 |
Swissh:Which country in the world can actually confront China? They are the next superpower in the world after the U.S. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 9:53am On Mar 23, 2020 |
Brother are you a rosicrucian or a freemason? TiAd: |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 9:55am On Mar 23, 2020 |
Illuminated993:Lol. None of the above. Looking for your members? I don't do cult or religion. Why leave religion only to join a cult? That's silly. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by elrony(m): 9:58am On Mar 23, 2020 |
TiAd: What is wrong with you? I don't remember quoting a TiAd. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 9:59am On Mar 23, 2020 |
I just like your person. But I never said I was looking for my members. TiAd: |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 9:59am On Mar 23, 2020 |
elrony: |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 10:00am On Mar 23, 2020 |
Illuminated993:Ok, sorry. I don't dabble into such things. They're not worth it. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by elrony(m): 10:01am On Mar 23, 2020 |
donjazet: |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by elrony(m): 10:01am On Mar 23, 2020 |
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