gregyboy:



Am benin and we think think like a fucking weakling tribe like yorubas or a self thinking tribe like igbo, i support sharing the country into two halves north and south, i fucking dont support Biafra because the agenda is narrowed to only thr igbos and not the whole of Southern Nigeria
I Keep telling the Yorubas they are the issue of this country
I praise the igbo man more than the Yoruba people

So what the Bleep are you saying

My dear we aren't quarrelling.....Not at all.

@bolded...and I am very happy you stated it clear because that has been the issue and the case.

Okay let me throw the question to you before submitting further...

What's the way forward?

MelesZenawi:



My dear we aren't quarrelling.....Not at all.

@bolded...and I am very happy you stated it clear because that has been the issue and the case.

Okay let me throw the question to you before submitting further...

What's the way forward?

Lets agitate for the deamagamation of the southern nigeria and not just the eastern referendum we all in the south are glamouring for one thing if the yorubas decides to still support the north then we will leave them behind

We cant support the igbos wen we keep hearing biafra

gregyboy:


Lets agitate for the deamagamation of the southern nigeria and not just the eastern referendum we all in the south are glamouring for one thing if the yorubas decides to still support the north then we will leave them behind

We cant support the igbos wen we keep hearing biafra

@bolded.

This is strong...Hmmmmm

samuk:


If Zik is not an authority and the Igbos don't hold him in high esteem, I guess you are the one they hold in high esteem, you can carry on in your delusion, Mr Authority

Imagine you implying that Zik is stupid and by extension anyone that quotes him is also stupid just because you don't agree with his autobiography.

Zik isn't an authority in Igbo land and I am Igbo go and ask anyone ...Igbo even respect ojukwu more than zik! Zik was so myopic in his dealing....but that is aside


Give us Benin evidence of Onitsha start from

Language
Culture
Food
Worship
Mannerisms

That is when I can see you as sensible....Benin has no influence even in the near by Delta Igbo of Ika...they defeated Benin severally that was why they built moat in their city of mud houses ...bunch of cowards...it was Igbo that in less than 24 hours defeated Benin in mid west invasion on their way to ore...loook at tiny Benin that Ijaw defeated and took their land till date and that is why Gelegele can't be Benin land again ! Igbo came and took Igbanke while Yoruba Akoko

gregyboy:


Lets agitate for the deamagamation of the southern nigeria and not just the eastern referendum we all in the south are glamouring for one thing if the yorubas decides to still support the north then we will leave them behind

We cant support the igbos wen we keep hearing biafra

Trust me ...tbe benin aren't in the picture and we don't even need your support...go is on your Yoruba cousins...Igbo and Benin have nothing in. Common

gregyboy:



Am benin and we think think like a fucking weakling tribe like yorubas or a self thinking tribe like igbo, i support sharing the country into two halves north and south, i fucking dont support Biafra because the agenda is narrowed to only thr igbos and not the whole of Southern Nigeria
I Keep telling the Yorubas they are the issue of this country
I praise the igbo man more than the Yoruba people

So what the Bleep are you saying

You guys are weaklins ... You have your land taken by Ijaws ! You have only two local government ...Oredo and Egor, Esan don't send you and mind you in former biafra Igbo defeated you easily ! In short it was a walk over and would always do that ...Igbo have the means and the population....

Also , Gelegele is off you...ijaw has aken it forever and you can't fight ijaw ! They have Niger population also

And finally, ye Igbo never included you in the former biafra and they aren't even including you in he doesn't biafra ....what we can do after biafra is go colonise you and that will be easier and you guys would be pleased for it

samuk:


Some of the guys here are not genuinely interested in learning what they are ignorant of, they only asked these questions not to learn but to cast doubts, their over bloated egos as being part of the so called big tribes will not allow them seek genuine history.

The history of where the Obasekis originally come from in Anioma is on the official Obaseki family website, same as the history of the various tribes that make up Anioma.

Rather than read and seek genuine history as told by the indigines themselves, you see someone from across the river Niger who hardly knows his own history arguing the history of Anioma with the indigines themselves because in their warped minds they should be able to degree anyone to become Biafra irrespective of their history.

Someone as illustrious as Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe said is ancestors were from Benin, you see a faceless person who probably has no history casting doubt on the Zik of Africa.

Anyone that seeks the history of the various tribes across the south south region of Nigeria can find most on the internet, written by the indigines themselves.

Even here on Nairaland you will see an Igbo arguing Anioma history with IKA people, you see Igbo man arguing the history of Ekpeye and Ikwere with the natives. So engaging them at times is for the benefit of those genuine seekers of history that may come across the thread.

History is nothing to be ashamed about, as great as the Benin empire was, other tribes (Ikas, Akures, Ifes, Izons, Itsekiris, Urhobos, etc) contributed and played their part and have become part of the fabric of the society. The Benins are not ashamed to acknowledge this.

Unlike any other places in Nigeria, Benin have a documented and written history spanning almost 600 years and if you add Ora history, Benin history is more than 3000 years old and you see an ignorant somebody from tribes that were lumped together in the 1900s by the British calling Benin small, Benin may be small in size now but there is no any other place in Nigeria with a bigger, richer history, the reason it's called the cradle of black civilisation.

You re sounding stupid....Onitsha as a people have Igbo original there known as Oba people that gave Eze Chima ( Portion with his people when he was on reverse migration ) is Eze Chima a Benin name? Okay let's agree that your small tiny backward Benin influenced onitsha

Okay tell us the name of the person that did the influence and where they came from mind you...I am from that side


Also before you Gina, don't forget about the Nri quarters in Onitsha and ask if I who are the Nri

Talking bullshit online

MelesZenawi:


I am not yoruba nor Oduduwa.

Your Benin kingdom is non of my business as far you doesn't encroach in Igboland.

Bini man is same as a yoruba man.

Igbos has their own history entirely different from thosee two.

Benins and Yoruba are the same thing...they can't avoid the Yoruba ! They are blood we know the truth

Just like Isoko and Urhobo are the same
Or the way Anioma and Igbo are same

Or the way Ukwuani and Oguta are same

The way Igede and Igala are the same


Benin are offshoot of Yoruba or Yoruba are offshoot of Benin...they think alike, look alike and reason alike

AmuDimpka:


You guys are weaklins ... You have your land taken by Ijaws ! You have only two local government ...Oredo and Egor, Esan don't send you and mind you in former biafra Igbo defeated you easily ! In short it was a walk over and would always do that ...Igbo have the means and the population....

Also , Gelegele is off you...ijaw has aken it forever and you can't fight ijaw ! They have Niger population also

And finally, ye Igbo never included you in the former biafra and they aren't even including you in he doesn't biafra ....what we can do after biafra is go colonise you and that will be easier and you guys would be pleased for it

Whois this mad man

Were did they release you from

AmuDimpka:


Zik isn't an authority in Igbo land and I am Igbo go and ask anyone ...Igbo even respect ojukwu more than zik! Zik was so myopic in his dealing....but that is aside


Give us Benin evidence of Onitsha start from

Language
Culture
Food
Worship
Mannerisms

That is when I can see you as sensible....Benin has no influence even in the near by Delta Igbo of Ika...they defeated Benin severally that was why they built moat in their city of mud houses ...bunch of cowards...it was Igbo that in less than 24 hours defeated Benin in mid west invasion on their way to ore...loook at tiny Benin that Ijaw defeated and took their land till date and that is why Gelegele can't be Benin land again ! Igbo came and took Igbanke while Yoruba Akoko

You are either a poorly manufactured Aba made robot or your brain stopped developing at age 4 or you escaped from a mental health institution because every primary school pupil in Nigeria know that Nigeria got her independence on October 1 1960. That is why we celebrate independence day every October 1, dummy.

Between 1967 to 1970 when the Igbos lost over 2 million of her indigines in the Nigeria civil war, Benin was neither a country nor have a standing army to be defeated by Igbo, for you to think and believe otherwise shows your level of reasoning and mental capacity, very poor and below average.

samuk:


You are either a poorly manufactured Aba made robot or your brain stopped developing at age 4 or you escaped from a mental health institution because every primary school pupil in Nigeria know that Nigeria got her independence on October 1 1960. That is why we celebrate independence day every October 1, dummy.

Between 1967 to 1970 when the Igbos lost over 2 million of her indigines in the Nigeria civil war, Benin was neither a country nor have a standing army to be defeated by Igbo, for you to think and believe otherwise shows your level of reasoning and mental capacity, very poor and below average.

dont worry this time we would ensure that your two local government start speaking Igbo

gregyboy:



Whois this mad man

Were did they release you from

Wait let me ask your mother

AmuDimpka:


Wait let me ask your mother

Ogun dey kill you,

And your stricken alimajiri brothers when they sell for express road all over nigeeia


Mumu tribe he is even proud that that they have one billion local govt, wetin dem they use the local govt dey do,

Ozour population is decreasing around the world and this fool is happy they got population to themselves, it will take one local govt people to crush that useless local govt you take as pride into dust,

Mumu stop bragging with your pop it amount to nothing it it doesnt amount to greatness
You should be ashamed you are priding yourself with pop like it amount to greatness

Benins had that little pop and could control trade all over the southern nigeria that is called greatness, but igbos having that pop crushing edo in battle is not assume as greatness


Big fool i was reasoning with a sensible man from the east and you came from nowere to brag on useless population fool that you're

AmuDimpka:
dont worry this time we would ensure that your two local government start speaking Igbo

You sounding off track.

samuk:


You are either a poorly manufactured Aba made robot or your brain stopped developing at age 4 or you escaped from a mental health institution because every primary school pupil in Nigeria know that Nigeria got her independence on October 1 1960. That is why we celebrate independence day every October 1, dummy.

Between 1967 to 1970 when the Igbos lost over 2 million of her indigines in the Nigeria civil war, Benin was neither a country nor have a standing army to be defeated by Igbo, for you to think and believe otherwise shows your level of reasoning and mental capacity, very poor and below average.

Your problem is emotions and you use bad words when feel defeated.

Your behaviour will even scare many who may have different reasoning.

You want to feel among and mingle with Same people but at sametime you loathe time.

Which makes my logic simple. Since you don't like anything Igbo, you are better taken care of and catered for in oduduwa Republic.

Is this also hard to take?

gregyboy:



Ogun dey kill you,

And your stricken alimajiri brothers when they sell for express road all over nigeeia


Mumu tribe he is even proud that that they have one billion local govt, wetin dem they use the local govt dey do,

Ozour population is decreasing around the world and this fool is happy they got population to themselves, it will take one local govt people to crush that useless local govt you take as pride into dust,

Mumu stop bragging with your pop it amount to nothing it it doesnt amount to greatness
You should be ashamed you are priding yourself with pop like it amount to greatness

Benins had that little pop and could control trade all over the southern nigeria that is called greatness, but igbos having that pop crushing edo in battle is not assume as greatness


Big fool i was reasoning with a sensible man from the east and you came from nowere to brag on useless population fool that you're

Ozuor tota....u never see anything

AreaFada2:
.
You are very correct.

Imagine if the Olu of Warri & Oba of Lagos did not recognise their Benin origin? Many Benin detractors would have been very happy. But rulers of two of the richest oil & corporate/business cities in Nigeria do. It's what made Oba Akiolu so unpopular among other SW Obas & people. Oba Oyekan of blessed memory also clearly recognised his Benin ancestry.

Benin origin people in Lagos, Delta, Rivers, Ondo, Bayelsa, Accra/Ghana and other places if added to those in Edo, Benin can never be called a minority tribe. This awareness has grown recently and Benin Youth are rediscovering this. In a way these people arguing without any knowledge have jolted us to see that we cannot be quiet while envious people seek to distort a great history recorded over centuries and narrated for several millenniums.

In Benin history lives and breath. Even in your morning greetings daily.

You are seriously being deluded here though

That some Benin individuals settled in Warri and Lagos doesn't make these descendants Benin
For example, The Benin descendants in Lagos acknowledge their Benin ancestry because they are not Bastards and they know their history but they are Yoruba today
Don't delude yourself by counting them among the Bini ethnicity


Also I keep hearing Bini guys saying people of Accra migrated from Benin Where do you guys get that from?
What's the correlation between Bini and Ga people?

MelesZenawi:




Your problem is emotions and you use bad words when feel defeated.

Your behaviour will even scare many who may have different reasoning.

You want to feel among and mingle with Same people but at sametime you loathe time.

Which makes my logic simple. Since you don't like anything Igbo, you are better taken care of and catered for in oduduwa Republic.

Is this also hard to take?

No mind the confused Benin clown

gregyboy:


You are a fool for bragging on pop
You are fool for insulting edos that we are small

You are a fool for believing pop can amount to greatness or win battles

You are fool for insulting us as minorites

Israel is in the midst of arab countries ans they still cant be deafted
Isreal is not as populates as nigeria but it will take the whole of nigeria down under hours


Foolish majority tribe that equate its strength to population

After Igbanke Igbo would move further ...then Yoruba would move further from Akoko while Ijaw would move further from Gelegele


U ain't seen nothing ....Ozuor

AmuDimpka:



After Igbanke Igbo would move further ...then Yoruba would move further from Akoko while Ijaw would move further from Gelegele


U ain't seen nothing ....Ozuor

And so fucking what, hope you take your people and leave our lands...


Idiot stop priding yourself in pop

MelesZenawi:




Your problem is emotions and you use bad words when feel defeated.

Your behaviour will even scare many who may have different reasoning.

You want to feel among and mingle with Same people but at sametime you loathe time.

Which makes my logic simple. Since you don't like anything Igbo, you are better taken care of and catered for in oduduwa Republic.

Is this also hard to take?

Benin and Delta democratically left Western Region. That has been settled. Benin cannot be in Oduduwa

I am personally an Igbo-phile person. I like their businesslike and result oriented attitude. I have said it over the years here.

Our family was one of the first to welcome Igbo back to the neighborhood after the war. Their kids that some family member helped to midwife taken to the East died in the East during the war. Upon their return those kids were mourned like they were Family.

But I believe that the poorly handled post- conflict reconciliation of Biafra war left Igbo very hurt, disgruntled and largely badly disposed towards every non-Igbo in Nigeria. Despite Igbo bravado of "we are doing better than other tribes".
Doing well economically is one thing.
The collective psyche is another.

I happen to have been with a key figure in South African post conflict reconciliation. They did a far better job in SA.

Nigeria ought to know that the war remains an albatross. Igbo should be allowed to go. Alone. No other other tribe should go with them. The Niger River as the natural boundary. Niger Delta will decide terms of co-existence.

My prayer is for oil and gas to run out soon or lose relevance. That way Oduduwa would prefer to enjoy their seaport, agric and industrial base alone.
That is the best way out in my opinion.

gregyboy:


And so fucking what, hope you take your people and leave our lands...


Idiot stop priding yourself in pop

It is you that would leave the lands or start speaking the occupiers language

AreaFada2:

Benin and Delta democratically left Western Region. That has been settled. Benin cannot be in Oduduwa

I am personally an Igbo-phile person. I like their businesslike and result oriented attitude. I have said it over the years here.

Our family was one of the first to welcome Igbo back to the neighborhood after the war. Their kids that some family member helped to midwife taken to the East died in the East during the war. Upon their return those kids were mourned like they were Family.

But I believe that the poorly handled post- conflict reconciliation of Biafra war left Igbo very hurt, disgruntled and largely badly disposed towards every non-Igbo in Nigeria. Despite Igbo bravado of "we are doing better than other tribes".
Doing well economically is one thing.
The collective psyche is another.

I happen to have been with a key figure in South African post conflict reconciliation. They did a far better job in SA.

Nigeria ought to know that the war remains an albatross. Igbo should be allowed to go. Alone. No other other tribe should go with them. The Niger River as the natural boundary. Niger Delta will decide terms of co-existence.

My prayer is for oil and gas to run out soon or lose relevance. That way Oduduwa would prefer to enjoy their seaport, agric and industrial base alone.
That is the best way out in my opinion.

So what about us Igbo in Anioma...we should stay with you after what you did to us during the war and Bendel state ?

MelesZenawi:




Your problem is emotions and you use bad words when feel defeated.

Your behaviour will even scare many who may have different reasoning.

You want to feel among and mingle with Same people but at sametime you loathe time.

Which makes my logic simple. Since you don't like anything Igbo, you are better taken care of and catered for in oduduwa Republic.

Is this also hard to take?

Mr moderate, you only saw my reply, you didn't see your Igbo brother bragging of how the Igbo defeated an imaginary country and army of Benin during the Nigeria civil war.

Your Igbo brother was the one that left the issue being discussed and jumped into the Nigeria civil war and you are unhappy because he was reminded that the Igbos actually lost that war with over 2 million of their people perished.

Do you people want to also put a spin on this contemporary history of Nigeria that's just a few decades old, because you doubt anything and anything that doesn't fit into the Biafra narrative.

macof:


You are seriously being deluded here though

That some Benin individuals settled in Warri and Lagos doesn't make these descendants Benin
For example, The Benin descendants in Lagos acknowledge their Benin ancestry because they are not Bastards and they know their history but they are Yoruba today
Don't delude yourself by counting them among the Bini ethnicity


Also I keep hearing Bini guys saying people of Accra migrated from Benin Where do you guys get that from?
What's the correlation between Bini and Ga people?

Well, I have Ghanian inlaws who have acknowledged it. Ga inlaws and friends in diaspora. As far back as 30 years ago. I was quite surprised how confidently they asserted it.
I heard Yoruba, even Ooni Ojaja has been claiming them lately.

What you do not know is that over the last few years, there has been visits to their leaders in ACCRA area tow and fro reaffirming these ties.
Benin are not noise making agbero style people. I have pics of these visits. But I won't upload here. A halfway smart person will fine some of those online. But not all.

Benin has no real slave diaspora. Only very few Benin if kidnapped traveling by slave robbers got into slavery. So you do not see Benin going to Americas looking for long lost kin. We have none. We never cosy up to those without historically links to us.

Macof in your infantile and gargantuan overestimation of yourself, you are King Solomon of our time. Everyone not dancing to your confused tune is deluded. You will be alright las las

samuk:


Mr moderate, you only saw my reply, you didn't see your Igbo brother bragging of how the Igbo defeated an imaginary country and army of Benin during the Nigeria civil war.

Your Igbo brother was the one that left the issue being discussed and jumped into the Nigeria civil war and you are unhappy because he was reminded that the Igbos actually lost that war with over 2 million of their people perished.

Do you people want to also put a spin on this contemporary history of Nigeria that's just a few decades old, because you doubt anything and anything that doesn't fit into the Biafra narrative.

Well the stance is simple. Respect boundary and stop writing 15th century story as if it same in 21st century.

AmuDimpka:



So what about us Igbo in Anioma...we should stay with you after what you did to us during the war and Bendel state ?

Did to you?
Midwest had a pact with Biafra to remain neutral. But Biafra violated that pact by invading Midwest. Okonkwo had the temerity to try pressure Oba Akenzua to offer to support Biafra. Okonkwo declared Benin Republic unilaterally.

Anioma people in Midwest cabinet fed info from SMC in Lagos to Biafra.
Midwest was the only region outside the East that had Igboid people in regional or state government.

Give me any evidence that Anioma people suffered any suspicion before these events.

In any case Asaba massacre was by FG army led by Murtala Mohammed.
A part of Eastern Nigeria left Nigeria to join Cameroon under NCNC after a referendum. Anioma can choose that option too.
But those who left 9ja to join Cameroon are suffering untold suffering even clamouring for own Republic now.

People can make own choice

AreaFada2:

Benin and Delta democratically left Western Region. That has been settled. Benin cannot be in Oduduwa

I am personally an Igbo-phile person. I like their businesslike and result oriented attitude. I have said it over the years here.

Our family was one of the first to welcome Igbo back to the neighborhood after the war. Their kids that some family member helped to midwife taken to the East died in the East during the war. Upon their return those kids were mourned like they were Family.

But I believe that the poorly handled post- conflict reconciliation of Biafra war left Igbo very hurt, disgruntled and largely badly disposed towards every non-Igbo in Nigeria. Despite Igbo bravado of "we are doing better than other tribes".
Doing well economically is one thing.
The collective psyche is another.

I happen to have been with a key figure in South African post conflict reconciliation. They did a far better job in SA.

Nigeria ought to know that the war remains an albatross. Igbo should be allowed to go. Alone. No other other tribe should go with them. The Niger River as the natural boundary. Niger Delta will decide terms of co-existence.

My prayer is for oil and gas to run out soon or lose relevance. That way Oduduwa would prefer to enjoy their seaport, agric and industrial base alone.
That is the best way out in my opinion.

It more preferable that you use the Nigerian term South south than Niger delta. Niger delta consists of over 9 states in Nigeria.

That been said as I totally agree with you but the natural boundary is simply Igbo speaking areas....case closed.

It is only a fool or a problem monger that will come and be dragging another persons ethnic boundary.


Your submission is quite inorder but natural boundary remains Igbo speaking areas. That's the definition of natural boundary and not national boundary.

MelesZenawi:


It more preferable that you use the Nigerian term South south than Niger delta. Niger delta consists of over 9 states in Nigeria.

That been said as I totally agree with you but the natural boundary is simply Igbo speaking areas....case closed.

It is only a fool or a problem monger that will come and be dragging another persons ethnic boundary.


Your submission is quite inorder but natural boundary remains Igbo speaking areas. That's the definition of natural boundary and not national boundary.

Well, we know Ondo for example is called 9ja Delta in crude oil speak. .
We know which states are called 9ja Delta in our Constitution.
The rest your opinion.

Africa is not ready to have multicultural, multilingual countries. If being a small but homogeneous country will avoid enemies and saboteurs within, better for each country.

AreaFada2:

Well, we know Ondo for example is called 9ja Delta in crude oil speak. .
We know which states are called 9ja Delta in our Constitution.
The rest your opinion.

Africa is not ready to have multicultural, multilingual countries. If being a small but homogeneous country will avoid enemies and saboteurs within, better for each country.

All included in the constitution. The constitution is subject to amendments.

So maybe your understanding and definition of Niger delta is totally different from what FG thinks or understands about it.

MelesZenawi:


It more preferable that you use the Nigerian term South south than Niger delta. Niger delta consists of over 9 states in Nigeria.

That been said as I totally agree with you but the natural boundary is simply Igbo speaking areas....case closed.

It is only a fool or a problem monger that will come and be dragging another persons ethnic boundary.


Your submission is quite inorder but natural boundary remains Igbo speaking areas. That's the definition of natural boundary and not national boundary.

Do not kid yourself to think that Biafra will come to fruition without another war and bloodshed.

The current Nigeria we have today came about as a result of the Igbo military coup of 1965 and the civil war that followed.

For the country to revert back to how it was when the British left, another war has to be fought, nobody is going to give Igbo independent Biafra on a platter of gold, they will have to fight for it and good luck to them.

Incase you guys forgot, the British actually gave you the autonomy you are now clamouring for and much more before they left Nigeria but you became over ambitious and greedy, you wanted it all to yourself.

By 1963, Nigeria had four regions. The Igbo controlled two of the four regions, they were head of the Army, Senate, President of the federal republic of Nigeria, head of almost all government ministries. The Igbo controlled territory contained more than half of the Nigeria crude oil wealth.

In the 1960s every region controlled it's resources and paid 50% tax to the federal government.

The North didn't have enough of it's indigines to filled all their jobs so they retained white expatriates pending when they trained enough northern man power to occupy those positions because they didn't trust the Igbos to take those positions.

In 1965, Igbo overthrew the democratically elected government and killed the prime minister from the north, federal ministers from across the country who were not Igbo, two regional premiers that were not Igbos, killed non Igbo military officers and turned Nigeria into a unitary system of government which will currently operate.

They quickly moved to the north and ordered the foreign expatriates out of their jobs and filled those positions with Igbos, the north protested up to the point of saying they wanted to leave Nigeria, all their protests fell on deaf ears.

The North decided to stage their own coup, which they did and succeeded in 1966 but rather than return the country to the old regions, they saw the selfish benefits in the Igbo made unitary system of government put in place by Ironsi.

The Igbo made unitary system allows the north to control over 80% of the oil wells in the south and all other juicy positions in the country unhindered.

Now the Igbos wants to reverse the system without a fight, you guys must be joking, you created this current Nigeria, you guys are Nigeria and Nigeria is you, you go nowhere, we are all going to manage and enjoy your creation together.

If you want Biafra be ready to fight another war.