so why are you still behind Ghana in everything?

Stevoh18:



At the presence of Kenya, everything in Ghana is tiny and the only thing bigger in Nigeria is just their redundant population

JaceBlaze:
Opportunists out there trying to make a living out of other people's hardwork smh.I'm impressed,Kenyans know how to sing Sarafina word for word .Sarafina remains one of the greatest South African stories ever told,I never get tired of watching that film.




Then look out for the arrival of Jayceon .One thing about us South Africans that I can assure you is that you won't have to worry about us playing hide & sick with your immigration officers when our prescribed time in your country expires.You can never remind a South African to go home that's for sure.We respect other people's territories and we don't understand why others won't do the same in ours...hence xenophobia.


Why sing when I can just hand you a CD?

Most Kenyans dont know Sarafina word for word but they know the catchy parts. There's even a parody, the one Xhosa was talking about.
True, never heard of southies refusing to leave another country You love your country you proud suckers Didnt know the old skool SA music is on CD. Used to be on the casette tapes There's one used to be called Vuyelwa

Stevoh18:


But the reality on the ground things are different....how can that dusty country that looks like South Sudan be ahead of Kenya

bana achana na hawa wasee, hawajui kunyamaza .. na hawatakubali kushindwa

XhosaNostra:


Maybe I'm a little slow this morning, but I don't understand a word you just said. Try the Queen's language this time around.

Hmmmm! I am not in bondage to any colonial master's language.

It's either I try in Xhosa or in piklin, nothing more nothing less.

Molo....Unjani?

Shma:
since you can't prove, let's just deal with the proven facts, 100+ m
We have already tackled that, so what next .?. or should I just enjoy the xhosa vibes

I can proof it because the record is stirring at me.

forgiveness:


Argue with your economist.

South Africa has been in recession since 2013: economist

Ackerman noted that the GDP number came in below expectations, and has sent the country back into a technical recession.

However, the economist pointed out that a technical recession is merely a statistical measure of a recession (two successive quarters of economic decline), adding that South Africa has in fact been in recession since 2013 in terms of per capita growth.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/businesstech.co.za/news/finance/378827/south-africa-has-been-in-recession-since-2013-economist/amp/

I'll argue with him if need be

forgiveness:


Exactly! Even that 100m was recently allowed in Ikoyi.

Till date many areas have height restriction in Lagos but I think it undermine the potential of the city. Lagos state government should open eyes.


AMID plans to attract private real estate investors and developers into the metropolis, Lagos authorities have zoned some high residential density areas often referred to as high Streets in Victoria Island to accommodate high rise developments of 110 metres (approximately 30 floors).

Areas with the permissible height are Adeyemo Alakija, Idowu Taylor, Adeola Hopewell, Adetokunbo Ademola, Ajose Adeogun and Akin Adesola. The new move is part of the Revised Ikoyi-Victoria Island Model City Plan (2013-2033) that specifically earmarked some streets as central business district, mixed-use corridor, hospitality corridor and high residential density.

https://m.guardian.ng/property/lagos-approves-30-floor-buildings-in-new-victoria-island-plan/

Yep.
Has always been a 'Lagos Thing'.
Heck!..The marina CBD without level restrictions also isn't big on heights.
And we know towers dont translate to economic buoyancy.

Shma:
same in Nairobi, you can't build skyscrapers just anywhere in Nairobi. So that should not be an excuse

It's not an excuse of course. But there are many countries that are better than both cities without skyscrapers. It depends on priority of the planners of each cities.

Carmit:

Yep.
Has always been a 'Lagos Thing'.
Heck!..The marina CBD without level restrictions also isn't big on heights.
And we know towers dont translate to economic buoyancy.

Can you afford marina plot of land?

Bring one cdb in Nairobi and let us compare with marina in terms of skyscrapers.

XhosaNostra:


Lol, but he deserves the prize this time around with the mresh

@ bolded, eish san! Ain't happening! Tanzanians seem like a delight though, not sure why you guys aren't getting along.

He cant get the prize! All that time Ednite never call him mpenzi despite his back breaking efforts. If you recall she frequently referred to me an mtis as so (mtis less so ) Its clear I was the pre eminent mpenzi, kazi still hasnt achieved that status, still friendzoned, lol.

Maybe you talking of me n kazi. Obviously as neighbors Kenyans and Tanzanians, on an individual level get along, but no so much on a diplomatic level considering we are neighbors. We're almost like Ind.. and Paki. You guys dont have neigbors to tease, so you possibly cant get this. I know you have neigbors but they are too small and quiet and too poor, almost insignificant compared with SA.
But personally I cant get along with him because I see him as an emissary of their president who is nyerere reincarnate in terms of trade and business. Since he came to power he has convinced ppl like kazi that its only a matter of time before they catch up with Kenya, and its sad because they utterly failed to do so when they had a chance (the difference wasnt so big back then). Now we're approaching double their GDP and several times their budget but the false belief holds strong.

Carmit:

Yep.
Has always been a 'Lagos Thing'.
Heck!..The marina CBD without level restrictions also isn't big on heights.
And we know towers dont translate to economic buoyancy.

Nigeria's economy is still far buoyant than that of Kenya.

forgiveness:


I can proof it because the record is stirring at me.

am waiting

forgiveness:


Can you afford marina plot of land?

Bring one cdb in Nairobi and let us compare with marina in terms of skyscrapers.

Calm your titties bro.
I'm on your side.
I be Lagos boy.

Austine1212:


I'll argue with him if need be

Was/is South Africa in recession as we speak before the advent of Covid19?

Mzal3ndo:

For the people who raided others shops in the name of Xenophobia to say this is to call for the wrath of God.

Which shops?

And what about the heartless peeps who burned live chicks in their thousands to prove a point

Carmit:

Calm your titties bro.
I'm on your side.
I be Lagos boy.

Hahahaha! No worries my Lagos man.

vaxx1:
Then your knowledge is wack. good student developed ideas. knowledge isn't static . economically, kenya only have a larger GDP to brag about.


You aren't close to the field of Economics

Obviously even an ordinary person knows that.

If you want accurate info in comparison go to world bank, IMF the figures are more accurate

kikuyu1:


My problem with this dude is rewriting history;deliberately downplaying the horrific crimes of his people. Like this!



The truth is right from the beginning slavery,the capture of Blacks was part and parcel of settler culture. Within a few decades of thr landing of Jan Riebeek Khoisan were enslaved.

"They objected that there was not enough grass for both their cattle and ours.


Mind you,that's the pioneer settler himself talking! Anyway they kept slaves throughout their treks and republics referring to 'indentured servants,' captured kids kept after their Swazi,Pedi,Nguni parents were killed in battle. IIRC,they were called 'Inboekselings' also referred to as slaves and were treated as such-unpaid and mistreated.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Republic

Btw,the Great Trek was sparked off when the Brits in Cape Colony banned slavery.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Trek

In fact slavery was legally codified and black prisoners were often hired by Boers who paid the government a nominal almost like Chinese prison labour . You can imagine the conditions with no official oversight-many died from TB,whippings and maltreatment. The system died out only in the 80s: I can't find stats on the mortality rate.

https://www.sahistory.org.za/article/history-prison-labour-south-africa

The more you read the more you wonder...




...WHY THE ACTUAL FCVK DID THIS NIGGA EVEN BRING UP THIS TOPIC IN THE FIRST PLACE!?

Now I totally see why you call his BS. He's hell bent on defending Apartheid.

Austine1212:


Obviously even an ordinary person knows that.

If you want accurate info in comparison go to world bank, IMF the figures are more accurate

Then what are you ignorantly saying then.

This one is in the township where I was born & raised. Can we take a moment to appreciate the cleanliness of South African townships

forgiveness:


Was/is South Africa in recession as we speak before the advent of Covid19?

Yes it was recession and still in recession

As well many countries will, this will be a global recession

XhosaNostra:
This one is in the township where I was born & raised. Can we take a moment to appreciate the cleanliness of South African townships

Wow

vaxx1:
Then what are you ignorantly saying then.

I won't engage with you on this

XhosaNostra:
This one is in the township where I was born & raised. Can we take a moment to appreciate the cleanliness of South African townships

I celebrate the cleanliness with you

jln115:

Look boy, I ain't going to be taught history by someone who believes-

Facts are facts and I couldn't be bothered to pretend to give half an eff what you think! You jump from denial to deflection like a monkey in a tree making noise saying nothing but BS. This is the problem;you refuse to see what I'm saying cause culturally you cannot-globally,your culture has normalised land grabbing,resource theft,population displacement,mass slavery/coercive labour and even genocide OF NON WHITES simply cause you had the monopoly on the means of violence and superior war technology:what the Dutch did in Indonesia was repeated in SA,identical Brit depredations happened in India,Kenya,Canada and even Somaliland.
Basically social relationships were planted in the wrong soil,the ground of assumed superiority/presumed inferiority which fatally poisoned the social set up and led to your near 300 year slavery/coercive labour. The story of prison/coercive labour is astonishing itself a direct outgrowth of the normalising of black slavery.

Blacks were penalised for pass laws solely to feed into this the demand for free labour/coercive/slavery-seeing the truly inhuman ishyt that created frankly shocked even me! Will be back-smth's just come up!

Ricchcream:
I celebrate the cleanliness with you

Yeah right. No gunk.

Austine1212:


Yes it was recession and still in recession

As well many countries will, this will be a global recession

Why didn't he agree Nigeria will only go into recession due to global recession?

forgiveness:


It's not an excuse of course. But there are many countries that are better than both cities without skyscrapers. It depends on priority of the planners of each cities.

no one has refute the bolded facts, we all know skyscrapers doesn't fully equate to development, but skyscrappers are one indication of a developed/developing city. Take in mind the cost of putting skyscrapers and how it will impact to aesthetic of a city,. although, there are many cities with no skyscrapers but far much developed than those with skyscrapers, I can site example of Casablanca, that city is just perfect the way it is, right from road quality to iconic low rise buildings, You can't start comparing dwarf cities with numerous number of shanty houses and pathetic roads with cities hosting six or five skyscrapers!!! Dwarf cities with height restriction law should work smart. just the way Kigali is trying

It's still very hot in Lagos.

forgiveness:


Hmmmm! I am not in bondage to any colonial master's language.

It's either I try in Xhosa or in piklin, nothing more nothing less.

Molo....Unjani?

Ha! Then how are we supposed to communicate since we speak different languages?

Ndimoja. You?

jln115:
Bro did you even read my post?

You called them slaves, while I said they empowered themselves even under severe oppression..... So who is the racist one?

Kikuyu1 clearly showed you that slavery was in SA (which you are even disputing, showing how historically deprived you are). Obviously,,, by slave I never meant it in that old sense. This is NL, you dont have to be melodramatic over a simple word, when in real sense you are defending a racist regime. Even Xhosa and Jayce didnt react as you, yet that term can be said to be more directly aimed at them, but they understand these more pedestrian talks cannot be taken so seriously. you suffering white guilt bro? You dont have to spend eternity trying to show that apartheid wasnt as bad as the world thought. We all know it was bad enough, rivaled only by Jim Crow & Hitler, regardless of what progress indigenous SA was making at the time.

XhosaNostra:
Hemingways mall in East London, black-owned The sole owner of this massive property is Sisa Ngebulana.
We like big things in Mzantsi

Any insights as to the origins of the name?