Jesus testify that God is Lord and he is not referring to himself as God, or Lord or the son of God. and he stated that this our Lord is One and not 3


Mark 12:29, KJV: "And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:"



The first of all the commandments is that God our Lord is one Lord.

Which simply implies that "Laila Ila Allah"

No other gods or lords but the only God the creator of all creatures as we Muslim believes



Now my question is this

Jesus said it vividly that "God is our Lord and He is one.

1) why do Christian have divergent of opinion about God being in 3 forms ?

2)Why do Christians call Jesus as God?

3) Why do Christians call Jesus as son of God ?

4) Why do Christians believe its possible to have Lord of son and lord of God when the verse above stated it clearly that you should believe in only one God ?


Thanks for your productive nd educative response in advance

Good morning sir, there is something called the trinity in Christianity;
God the father
God the son
God the Holy spirit(or Holy spirit)
They are 3 different personalities but they are one in the sense that they act in unison or uniformity in everything they want to do. Open to Genesis 1vs26 please use king James version----can you see the word let 'us'? This is a classical example of the Trini coming together to perform a duty or bring something into existence.
Open Genesis 3:22 pls use king James version--can you see God talking there again? "" and the lord God said,behold,man has become as one of "us" ""
Open to Genesis 11:6-7 pls use KJV --can you see God talking there again? "And the LORD said,behold the people is one and they all have one language............ now let "us"
go there and confound their language, that they may not understand one another speech.
Now let us go to the new testament
1John 5 verse 7 (KJV) can you see what John the beloved was writing there? "There are three that bear witness in heaven, the Father,the Word, the Holy Ghost and these three are one" Now I know you are kind of confuse and asking yourself which one is "the word" again ? The word there refers to Jesus Christ I.e God the son. How did I know?open John 1and read verses 1,2,3,4,14(now the same person wrote the books of John, and 1John. In the book of John he describes Jesus as the word, and this word became flesh and dwelt among us. Do you understand?? So that is why when he was writing the book of 1 John he chooses to "use the word" )
Now to further explain your first question Jesus can be quoted in several portions of the gospel saying things like
John 10 verse 30 --- I and my father are one
John 7verse 29--But I know Him for Iam from him and he hath sent me
John 5verse 36--But I have greater witness than that of John,for the same works which the father hath given me to finish,the same works I do that bear witness of me,that the father hath sent me. Now just like the UN their are 5 permanent members(the world powers) of the UNSC but their other members that they can add at some point and remove them at some point..so when decision making is been done at the UNSC, these five permanent members have equal voting power and right i.e if US and France want something but the UK,CHINA,RUSSIA do not want it ,it won't hold even though all other countries of the world want it. Hope you get my logic ? All the five powers must agree for something to work. That is why when Jerusalem as capital of israel ish came up it never worked, but if the five world powers should have said yes, Jerusalem Will be the legal capital of Israel...

Now to your second question
Christians do not call Jesus as God..as I explained above all the three are one
So, even though you pray and end it by saying "in Jesus name I pray "or " thank you lord for hearing me" or "thank you holy spirit ". Your prayer will still be answered as far as it is in accordance with God's will.
Now christains pray in Jesus name or most of the time say something like "Jesus oh my God" because of portions in the Bible that says
Philippians 2 verse 1-11(KJV) please read it let me just quote verse 9,10 and11
""Wherefore God hath highly exalted him,and given him a name above every other name. That at the mention of The name of Jesus every knee should bow,of things in heaven,and things in earth and things under the earth,and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is lord to the glory of God The Father""
Can you see why christians exalt the name of Jesus and can you see the power vested in the name,??
Every knee shall bow,in heaven(heaven oh ) and earth and under the earth. Choi what majesty ,what power...no wonder all power belongs to God he is omni potent.
Now ask your self but why would God vest such power in Jesus?
He did what no man could do for you? He Took up your sins and thus now you can come to God boldly..He died on the cross of calvary and resurrected again thus signifying his conquest over death and life. All these he did so that we can believe on him and turn from our sins .Luke 24:47-- and repentance and remission of sins be preached in his name among all nations begining at Jerusalem.
Please hope you understand??

Iam sure question 3 have been answers in question one but let me just give you this bible vers
Luke 9:35 God here is saying.This is my beloved son,hear him
Mark 1:11 thou art my beloved son,in who me I am well pleased.
Even Jesus can be qouted as in some examples I have given in the first answer

Now understand this...That passage mark 12:29. I actually don't know the right answer to give you here but, I told you about the trinity, they are 3 different personalities, but one in action, thoughts. There is unity that cannot be broken.

You know that is why in the christian faith,you are not brainwashed or forced, but "you believe "
According to Billy Graham, he said he doesn't understand why a black cow will eat a green grass and produce white milk . but we still drink the milk any way. So brother ,we cannot understand everything.this doesn't stop us from being Christians but we just believe.

Iam sure some one can throw more light on it.

Justright34:
Jesus testify that God is Lord and he is not referring to himself as God, or Lord or the son of God. and he stated that this our Lord is One and not 3


Mark 12:29, KJV: "And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:"



The first of all the commandments is that God our Lord is one Lord.

Which simply implies that "Laila Ila Allah"

No other gods or lords but the only God the creator of all creatures as we Muslim believes



Now my question is this

Jesus said it vividly that "God is our Lord and He is one.

1) why do Christian have divergent of opinion about God being in 3 forms ?

2)Why do Christians call Jesus as God?

3) Why do Christians call Jesus as son of God ?

4) Why do Christians believe its possible to have Lord of son and lord of God when the verse above stated it clearly that you should believe in only one God ?


Thanks for your productive nd educative response in advance

There is nothing like three GOD, it is one Lord and Master of the universe that manifest in 3 ways, JESUS CHRIST is the word of GOD and the Son, GOD Himself is the Father and His Spirit is the Holy spirit, it blindness and bitterness that make Muslims to claim three Gods.


People refer to call Jesus as GOD because He is the Word of GOD, The Son of GOD, The Representation of GOD that came to the world,

When you see the staff of office of some kings you respect them like the king's presence, that is mere an inanimate objects representing a person.


So our Lord Jesus Christ and Savior, the Word of GOD, the Son of GOD, the Second One in the Trinity is GOD in Being.

Your number 4 question is not clearly written.


You may not be able to understand because it is a mystery and such mystery cannot be understood by people who carry hatred and bitterness in their heart.

Mind you there is nothing like "true" CHRISTian, say "true' CHRISTian is like saying "true good", CHRISTian means CHRISTlike and little CHRIST. If you are not an uncompromising CHRISTlike person, you are just a church goer and bench warmer, the Bible says "sinners are of the devil". No CHRISTian is an habitual sinner.

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Justright34:
Jesus testify that God is Lord and he is not referring to himself as God, or Lord or the son of God. and he stated that this our Lord is One and not 3


Mark 12:29, KJV: "And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:"



The first of all the commandments is that God our Lord is one Lord.

Which simply implies that "Laila Ila Allah"

No other gods or lords but the only God the creator of all creatures as we Muslim believes



Now my question is this

Jesus said it vividly that "God is our Lord and He is one.

1) why do Christian have divergent of opinion about God being in 3 forms ?

2)Why do Christians call Jesus as God?

3) Why do Christians call Jesus as son of God ?

4) Why do Christians believe its possible to have Lord of son and lord of God when the verse above stated it clearly that you should believe in only one God ?


Thanks for your productive nd educative response in advance

Presently comprehend this...That section mark 12:29. I really don't have the foggiest idea about the correct response to give you here however, I informed you regarding the trinity, they are 3 unique characters, yet one in real life, contemplations. There is solidarity that can't be broken.

You realize that is the reason in the https://quotereadz.com/rama-navami-2020-telugu-and-english-quotes-wishes-messages-images-whatsapp-status/faith,you are not indoctrinated or constrained, yet "you accept "

As indicated by Billy Graham, he said he doesn't comprehend why a dark cow will eat a green grass and produce white milk . in any case, we despite everything drink the milk any way. So sibling ,we can't comprehend everything.this doesn't prevent us from being Christians however we simply accept.

Iam sure somebody can illuminate it.

Aquilapriscilla:
Good morning sir, there is something called the trinity in Christianity;
God the father
God the son
God the Holy spirit(or Holy spirit)
They are 3 different personalities but they are one in the sense that they act in unison or uniformity in everything they want to do. Open to Genesis 1vs26 please use king James version----can you see the word let 'us'? This is a classical example of the Trini coming together to perform a duty or bring something into existence.
Open Genesis 3:22 pls use king James version--can you see God talking there again? "" and the lord God said,behold,man has become as one of "us" ""
Open to Genesis 11:6-7 pls use KJV --can you see God talking there again? "And the LORD said,behold the people is one and they all have one language............ now let "us"
go there and confound their language, that they may not understand one another speech.
Now let us go to the new testament
1John 5 verse 7 (KJV) can you see what John the beloved was writing there? "There are three that bear witness in heaven, the Father,the Word, the Holy Ghost and these three are one" Now I know you are kind of confuse and asking yourself which one is "the word" again ? The word there refers to Jesus Christ I.e God the son. How did I know?open John 1and read verses 1,2,3,4,14(now the same person wrote the books of John, and 1John. In the book of John he describes Jesus as the word, and this word became flesh and dwelt among us. Do you understand?? So that is why when he was writing the book of 1 John he chooses to "use the word" )
Now to further explain your first question Jesus can be quoted in several portions of the gospel saying things like
John 10 verse 30 --- I and my father are one
John 7verse 29--But I know Him for Iam from him and he hath sent me
John 5verse 36--But I have greater witness than that of John,for the same works which the father hath given me to finish,the same works I do that bear witness of me,that the father hath sent me. Now just like the UN their are 5 permanent members(the world powers) of the UNSC but their other members that they can add at some point and remove them at some point..so when decision making is been done at the UNSC, these five permanent members have equal voting power and right i.e if US and France want something but the UK,CHINA,RUSSIA do not want it ,it won't hold even though all other countries of the world want it. Hope you get my logic ? All the five powers must agree for something to work. That is why when Jerusalem as capital of israel ish came up it never worked, but if the five world powers should have said yes, Jerusalem Will be the legal capital of Israel...

Read the whole of Isaiah 45.. Maybe you will learn a thing or two..

sonmvayina:


Read the whole of Isaiah 45.. Maybe you will learn a thing or two..

I have ,,please explain what you want to say

BlowYourMind:
There is nothing like three GOD, it is one Lord and Master of the universe that manifest in 3 ways, JESUS CHRIST is the word of GOD and the Son, GOD Himself is the Father and His Spirit is the Holy spirit, it blindness and bitterness that make Muslims to claim three Gods.


People refer to call Jesus as GOD because He is the Word of GOD, The Son of GOD, The Representation of GOD that came to the world,

When you see the staff of office of some kings you respect them like the king's presence, that is mere an inanimate objects representing a person.


So our Lord Jesus Christ and Savior, the Word of GOD, the Son of GOD, the Second One in the Trinity is GOD in Being.

Your number 4 question is not clearly written.


You may not be able to understand because it is a mystery and such mystery cannot be understood by people who carry hatred and bitterness in their heart.

Your contribution is appreciated but can you pinpoint where does hatred or bitterness emanated from as regarding the purpose of this tread ?


Must you always teach the doctrine with hatred and bitterness ?



According to your emphasis, you mean Jesus is the word of God and the word of God is Jesus therefore Jesus is the Son of God ?


But do you ever consider the first commandment that Jesus was talking about in the Bible that God is One ?

Mark 12:29, KJV: "And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:"

John 17:3
Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

Jesus reinstate on the verse above that the only true God have sent him as messenger and not that God comes to the world as flesh himself


John 7:28

Then Jesus, still teaching in the temple courts, cried out, "Yes, you know me, and you know where I am from. I am not here on my own authority, but he who sent me is true. You do not know him,

He said he is not on earth on his own authority but God sent him as messenger and not as another God in flesh


John 8:42
Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me.


The above verse nailed it all that Jesus is a messenger sent by God just as He sent other prophets as well


So why the Trinity ?
Why as Son of God why other messengers not sond of God ?

If Adam has no father and no mother and not being regarded as son of God but Jesus who has no Father but has mother regarded as son to God ?

Because he was born in a mysterious way without a father ?

All the verses above stated vividly that Jesus is sent by God as messenger to Israel just as God sent other prophets

As word ?
As son of God ?
As God ?
As Lord ?


Is that the reason some Christians have image of some white actors and refer to the person on the poster as Jesus therefore bow to the image as Jesus ?



Thanks do your educative response in advance

Aquilapriscilla:
Good morning sir, there is something called the trinity in Christianity;
God the father
God the son
God the Holy spirit(or Holy spirit)
They are 3 different personalities but they are one in the sense that they act in unison or uniformity in everything they want to do. Open to Genesis 1vs26 please use king James version----can you see the word let 'us'? This is a classical example of the Trini coming together to perform a duty or bring something into existence.
Open Genesis 3:22 pls use king James version--can you see God talking there again? "" and the lord God said,behold,man has become as one of "us" ""
Open to Genesis 11:6-7 pls use KJV --can you see God talking there again? "And the LORD said,behold the people is one and they all have one language............ now let "us"
go there and confound their language, that they may not understand one another speech.
Now let us go to the new testament
1John 5 verse 7 (KJV) can you see what John the beloved was writing there? "There are three that bear witness in heaven, the Father,the Word, the Holy Ghost and these three are one" Now I know you are kind of confuse and asking yourself which one is "the word" again ? The word there refers to Jesus Christ I.e God the son. How did I know?open John 1and read verses 1,2,3,4,14(now the same person wrote the books of John, and 1John. In the book of John he describes Jesus as the word, and this word became flesh and dwelt among us. Do you understand?? So that is why when he was writing the book of 1 John he chooses to "use the word" )
Now to further explain your first question Jesus can be quoted in several portions of the gospel saying things like
John 10 verse 30 --- I and my father are one
John 7verse 29--But I know Him for Iam from him and he hath sent me
John 5verse 36--But I have greater witness than that of John,for the same works which the father hath given me to finish,the same works I do that bear witness of me,that the father hath sent me. Now just like the UN their are 5 permanent members(the world powers) of the UNSC but their other members that they can add at some point and remove them at some point..so when decision making is been done at the UNSC, these five permanent members have equal voting power and right i.e if US and France want something but the UK,CHINA,RUSSIA do not want it ,it won't hold even though all other countries of the world want it. Hope you get my logic ? All the five powers must agree for something to work. That is why when Jerusalem as capital of israel ish came up it never worked, but if the five world powers should have said yes, Jerusalem Will be the legal capital of Israel...

Is this attributes regarding all prophets as messengers as the God of Son or only Jesus is the God of Son ?


Why do Christian fail to admit that Jesus is also a messenger of God ?




But do you ever consider the first commandment that Jesus was talking about in the Bible that God is One ?

Mark 12:29, KJV: "And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:"

John 17:3
Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

Jesus reinstate on the verse above that the only true God have sent him as messenger and not that God comes to the world as flesh himself


John 7:28

Then Jesus, still teaching in the temple courts, cried out, "Yes, you know me, and you know where I am from. I am not here on my own authority, but he who sent me is true. You do not know him,

He said he is not on earth on his own authority but God sent him as messenger and not as another God in flesh


John 8:42
Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me.


The above verse nailed it all that Jesus is a messenger sent by God just as He sent other prophets as well


So why the Trinity ?
Why as Son of God why other messengers not sond of God ?

If Adam has no father and no mother and not being regarded as son of God but Jesus who has no Father but has mother regarded as son to God ?

Because he was born in a mysterious way without a father ?

All the verses above stated vividly that Jesus is sent by God as messenger to Israel just as God sent other prophets

As word ?
As son of God ?
As God ?
As Lord ?


All the verses above pointing at one meaning that Jesus is messenger of God.


John 8:42. He said God sent me.

Clearly nd boldly


As God sent other prophets, He also sent Jesus too

Iam coming

Your question has already been answered, you're the one who refuses to accept the answer.

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Justright34:



Is this attributes regarding all prophets as messengers as the God of Son or only Jesus is the God of Son ?


Why do Christian fail to admit that Jesus is also a messenger of God ?




But do you ever consider the first commandment that Jesus was talking about in the Bible that God is One ?

Mark 12:29, KJV: "And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:"

John 17:3
Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

Jesus reinstate on the verse above that the only true God have sent him as messenger and not that God comes to the world as flesh himself


John 7:28

Then Jesus, still teaching in the temple courts, cried out, "Yes, you know me, and you know where I am from. I am not here on my own authority, but he who sent me is true. You do not know him,

He said he is not on earth on his own authority but God sent him as messenger and not as another God in flesh


John 8:42
Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me.


The above verse nailed it all that Jesus is a messenger sent by God just as He sent other prophets as well


So why the Trinity ?
Why as Son of God why other messengers not sond of God ?

If Adam has no father and no mother and not being regarded as son of God but Jesus who has no Father but has mother regarded as son to God ?

Because he was born in a mysterious way without a father ?

All the verses above stated vividly that Jesus is sent by God as messenger to Israel just as God sent other prophets

As word ?
As son of God ?
As God ?
As Lord ?


All the verses above pointing at one meaning that Jesus is messenger of God.


John 8:42. He said God sent me.

Clearly nd boldly


As God sent other prophets, He also sent Jesus too

Justright34, I think there are three main types of Christianity.

The first believes God=Jesus=Spirit. The three Gods are one and equal.

The second believes God >Jesus and Jesus > Spirit. The three Gods are different but work together as one!

The third believes God is one. And Jesus is more or less like a way to God. Jesus is not God but God's son. And the spirit is not God.

ContractKiller:

How do you explain Jesus as the word of God "logos" in John 1:1.

Bear in mind that "logos' was used over 300 times in the NT and it only meant Jesus in just 7 times!

What does "logos" mean?

ContractKiller:
Your question has already been answered, you're the one who refuses to accept the answer.

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All these verses you're quoting are applicable to Moses, Abraham, Lot and many others!

Whoever saw these people has metaphorically has seen God. That's the essence of a Prophet!

In this same light we interprete " No one comes to the father except through me"

Anyone who fails to enter Noah's ark was doomed! Noah was the way in his time.

Anyone who fails to follow Moses then was doomed. Moses was the way to God back then.

Same as other Prophets! They were all the way to God! The light of God is seen through them.

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AntiChristian:


All these verses you're quoting are applicable to Moses, Abraham, Lot and many others!

Whoever saw these people has metaphorically has seen God. That's the essence of a Prophet!

In this same light we interprete " No one comes to the father except through me"

Anyone who fails to enter Noah's ark was doomed! Noah was the way in his time.

Anyone who fails to follow Moses then was doomed. Moses was the way to God back then.

Same as other Prophets! They were all the way to God! The light of God is seen through them.

Justright34:
Jesus testify that God is Lord and he is not referring to himself as God, or Lord or the son of God. and he stated that this our Lord is One and not 3


Mark 12:29, KJV: "And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:"



The first of all the commandments is that God our Lord is one Lord.

Which simply implies that "Laila Ila Allah"

No other gods or lords but the only God the creator of all creatures as we Muslim believes



Now my question is this

Jesus said it vividly that "God is our Lord and He is one.

1) why do Christian have divergent of opinion about God being in 3 forms ?

2)Why do Christians call Jesus as God?

3) Why do Christians call Jesus as son of God ?

4) Why do Christians believe its possible to have Lord of son and lord of God when the verse above stated it clearly that you should believe in only one God ?


Thanks for your productive nd educative response in advance

Q1..
After the death of Jesus early apostles, pagan philosophies crept into Christianity and polluted the teaching in the holy Scriptures..
2Tim 4:1-3..
In verse1, there is a clear distinction that God& Christ Jesus are different Beings, you dey see am?
1st John 2:18-23,Anti Christs (triune pagan deity devotees) deny the Biblical distinction between the Father and the son.. (John 14:1. John 20:17. John 17:3)
Trinity is a demonic doctrine,quote me anywhere.

Q2:
Triune pagan deity devotees (alias "'Christians'" ) make that false claim..

Q3..
Your son can be your messenger, you no dey go message for your Father?
Jesus Christ says he is both a Messenger & the son of God . John 7:16. John 17:3. John 3:16-17 , John12:49,50.
Yahweh confirmed Jesus is his son.- Matt3:16,17
Jesus apostles said so.. 1Cor 11:3. Acts3:13.

Q4: for the reasons given at Q1...

Justright34:



He also sent Jesus too

Now, Jesus is a messenger of God, yes I agree. But he is more than just a messenger of God look at this parable Jesus told the people
33Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country: 34And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it. 35And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another. 36Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise. 37But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son. 38But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance. 39And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him. 40When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen? 41They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.
Do you know that Jesus said, this in John8:58. 58Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Now tell me who on planet earth ever dared make this statement
Now do you know that The coming of Jesus was prophesied long before he came?
Genesis 3:15
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.God speaking here was referring to Jesus Christ as the seed that is to come whole bruise the head of Satan finally,even though Satan will strike his hill but at the end,it is the person head that is bruised who will die.
This is Isaiah in Isaiah 9:6
6For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
can you see the prophecy concerning Jesus Christ can you see the names Jesus would eventually be called ? all capitalized to denote that it referee to Jesus christ


Look at Isaiah again in Isaiah 53

He is talking about Jesus Christ and the the things that will happen to him can you see some words that start in capital letter referring to Jesus?
Example; verse 2 For "He" this he here referee to Jesus ,that is why it is capitalized
Verse 3 ;;A Man of sorrows,,, can you see capitalized?
Look at the last verse " He bore the sins of many?" Now tell me who on earth was this chapter referring to?? Jesus
Do you remember Jesus was crucified with two transgressors(Thieves)read the last verse.

1Who has believed our report?
And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?
2For He shall grow up before Him as a tender plant,
And as a root out of dry ground.
He has no form or comeliness;
And when we see Him,
There is no beauty that we should desire Him.
3He is despised and rejected by men,
A Man of sorrows and acquainted with grief.
And we hid, as it were, our faces from Him;
He was despised, and we did not esteem Him.
4Surely He has borne our griefs
And carried our sorrows;
Yet we esteemed Him stricken,
Smitten by God, and afflicted.
5But He was wounded for our transgressions,
He was bruised for our iniquities;
The chastisement for our peace was upon Him,
And by His stripes we are healed.
6All we like sheep have gone astray;
We have turned, every one, to his own way;
And the Lord has laid on Him the iniquity of us all.
7He was oppressed and He was afflicted,
Yet He opened not His mouth;
He was led as a lamb to the slaughter,
And as a sheep before its shearers is silent,
So He opened not His mouth.
8He was taken from prison and from judgment,
And who will declare His generation?
For He was cut off from the land of the living;
For the transgressions of My people He was stricken.
9And they made His grave with the wicked—
But with the rich at His death,
Because He had done no violence,
Nor was any deceit in His mouth.
10Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise Him;
He has put Him to grief.
When You make His soul an offering for sin,
He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days,
And the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in His hand.
11He shall see the labor of His soul, and be satisfied.
By His knowledge My righteous Servant shall justify many,
For He shall bear their iniquities.
12Therefore I will divide Him a portion with the great,
And He shall divide the spoil with the strong,
Because He poured out His soul unto death,
And He was numbered with the transgressors,
And He bore the sin of many,
And made intercession for the transgressors.






Deuteronomy 18:18
18I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. 19And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. Look at that verse do you know that moses was referring to Jesus?

Now look at this passage that king David wrote in psalms 110:1
The LORD said to my Lord, “Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.”
Oh my God ...can you see two lords there?
But what is the difference between the two of them?
One is fully capitalized and the other just the first letter is capitalized
Now tell me who do you think the first one is referring to?God
The second one nko? Jesus
Now I hope this explains to u the deity of Jesus christ and why he is not just a messenger of God or a prophet of God,or a servant of God but the
Son of God.

In fact it is like you just qout some places in Bible and leave others out?
It is not supposed to be so?
Look at John 17, this is just verse one to five,but you quoted only verse 3

Read it and tell me if their is any place in any religious book on earth including the bible where someone said words like "glorify thy son" Calling God his "father" or saying that God has given him all power over all flesh ....
Can't yo see this thing so clearly Jesus is not just some mere prophet( not that I undermine prophets .but tbh Jesus is more than a prophet) ?
Please open your heart and understand this thing .Just believe
1These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: 2As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. 3And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. 4I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. 5And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

See I don't want to go on quoting but let me just say these
Do you see that John 8:42
Can you see Jesus asking the people to"love " him??
Which prophet ever asked for the love of the people .
OK go back to verse 39 you see Jesus telling them that if they are actually Abraham children, they won't behave as they are doing and further telling them that Abraham won't do as they are doing and behaving towards him
What does this mean ??it means if Abraham were to be alive at that time Abraham would " love" Jesus.
Does not this tell you that even Abraham himself looked up to Jesus .
Now even you said Jesus was born without a father??
Meaning he is supernatural
Tell me of any prophet in any religious book that did not have a father or mother
The truth is any man or woman born as a product of sex ,is born in sin.
That is why for Jesus to qualify to carry the sin of men,he was to be sinless and pure
Please I hope this helps,??

As for the question on the trinity?
I don't know. I have tried my best to explain to you what it is

Some can throw more light on the issue

ContractKiller:

I know you score "A" in abuse and cursing the Prophet of Islam and Muslims. Clarify the questions and stop the diversion!

However your exegesis of your Bible is "F". Try and answer the questions posed!

A. What does ''logos" mean?

B. How is Jesus Christ a lexical definition of "logos"?

C. How can "logos" mean Jesus Christ in only 7 out of over 300 instances in the NT.

D. Examples of "logo" include:

Any good Greek lexicon will also show this wide range of meaning (the words in italics are translated from logos):

1. Logos mean speaking; words you say (Rom. 15:18, “what I have said and done”).

2. Logos mean a statement you make (Luke 20:20 – (NASB), “they might catch him in some statement).

3. Logos mean a question (Matt. 21:24, “I will also ask you one question”).

4. Logos mean preaching (1 Tim. 5:17, “especially those whose work is preaching and teaching).

5. Logos mean command (Gal. 5:14, “the entire law is summed up in a single command”).

6. Logos mean proverb; saying (John 4:37, “thus the saying, ‘One sows, and another reaps’”).

7. Logos mean message; instruction; proclamation (Luke 4:32, “his message had authority”).

8. Logos mean assertion; declaration; teaching (John 6:60, “this is a hard teaching”).

9. Logos mean the subject under discussion; matter (Acts 8:21, “you have no part or share in this ministry.” Acts 15:6 (NASB), “And the apostles… came together to look into this matter”).

10. Logos mean revelation from God (Matt. 15:6, “you nullify the Word of God ”).

11. Logos mean God’s revelation spoken by His servants (Heb. 13:7, “leaders who spoke the Word of God”).

12. Logos mean a reckoning, an account (Matt. 12:36, “men will have to give account” on the day of judgment).

13. Logos mean an account or “matter” in a financial sense (Matt. 18:23, A king who wanted to settle “accounts” with his servants. Phil. 4:15, “the matter of giving and receiving”).

14. Logos means a reason; motive (Acts 10:29 – NASB), “I ask for what reason you have sent for me”).

Aquilapriscilla:
Good morning sir, there is something called the trinity in Christianity;
God the father
God the son
God the Holy spirit(or Holy spirit)
They are 3 different personalities but they are one in the sense that they act in unison or uniformity in everything they want to do. Open to Genesis 1vs26 please use king James version----can you see the word let 'us'? This is a classical example of the Trini coming together to perform a duty or bring something into existence.
Open Genesis 3:22 pls use king James version--can you see God talking there again? "" and the lord God said,behold,man has become as one of "us" ""
Open to Genesis 11:6-7 pls use KJV --can you see God talking there again? "And the LORD said,behold the people is one and they all have one language............ now let "us"
go there and confound their language, that they may not understand one another speech.
Now let us go to the new testament
1John 5 verse 7 (KJV) can you see what John the beloved was writing there? "There are three that bear witness in heaven, the Father,the Word, the Holy Ghost and these three are one" Now I know you are kind of confuse and asking yourself which one is "the word" again ? The word there refers to Jesus Christ I.e God the son. How did I know?open John 1and read verses 1,2,3,4,14(now the same person wrote the books of John, and 1John. In the book of John he describes Jesus as the word, and this word became flesh and dwelt among us. Do you understand?? So that is why when he was writing the book of 1 John he chooses to "use the word" )
Now to further explain your first question Jesus can be quoted in several portions of the gospel saying things like
John 10 verse 30 --- I and my father are one
John 7verse 29--But I know Him for Iam from him and he hath sent me
John 5verse 36--But I have greater witness than that of John,for the same works which the father hath given me to finish,the same works I do that bear witness of me,that the father hath sent me. ..

Gen1:26, God disclosed His idea to create,to another being , don't twist it,abeg you.
Who came up with the idea to create man,
Is He a Triune being or a Supreme Being?


Gen1:27 God created the man in his image... HE created the man...'
I know say you go school....
"His", Na how many persons?
"He" , Na how many persons?


Gen3:22,Gen11:6-7, your claim is built on faulty premise... why ?
God is a spirit (NOT 3 spirits. John 4:24).


1 John 5:7 is a confirmed FORGERY not originally in the holy Scriptures.. (Do a serious research on it , don't use FRAUD to support FRAUD.).

John 1:1 the word is theos (a god/God, Greek meaning of theos).
The word is WITH tov Theon (the God, Greek meaning facing towards the God.
One being can NEVER face himself).
John 1:18 no man has seen God at anytime...
The emphasis: "At anytime" renders Trinitarians interpretation of John 1:1,14 USELESS...

John 7:29,Aquillapriscilla is from her Father who sent her,how does that prove that she is her Father?

Your claims on John 10:30 is not true...
Why?
John 10:30 equal to John 17:20-23.

John 10:30 equal to 1Cor3:5-8.. Paul and Apollos are One just as God and Christ followers are one..(John 17:20-23).
You dey see am?


John10:30 equal to Matt10:40 ,Jesus and his followers are Representatives, teaching the message that the Most High ,Yahweh gave to Jesus, confirmed in 1Cor 3:22,23. John 7:16.
Shalom.

Aquilapriscilla:

I have ,,please explain what you want to say

Pay attention to verses 5,7,10 and 19

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AntiChristian:


I know you score "A" in abuse and cursing the Prophet of Islam and Muslims. Clarify the questions and stop the diversion!

However your exegesis of your Bible is "F". Try and answer the questions posed!

A. What does ''logos" mean?

B. How is Jesus Christ a lexical definition of "logos"?

C. How can "logos" mean Jesus Christ in only 7 out of over 300 instances in the NT.

D. Examples of "logo" include:

Any good Greek lexicon will also show this wide range of meaning (the words in italics are translated from logos):

1. Logos mean speaking; words you say (Rom. 15:18, “what I have said and done”).

2. Logos mean a statement you make (Luke 20:20 – (NASB), “they might catch him in some statement).

3. Logos mean a question (Matt. 21:24, “I will also ask you one question”).

4. Logos mean preaching (1 Tim. 5:17, “especially those whose work is preaching and teaching).

5. Logos mean command (Gal. 5:14, “the entire law is summed up in a single command”).

6. Logos mean proverb; saying (John 4:37, “thus the saying, ‘One sows, and another reaps’”).

7. Logos mean message; instruction; proclamation (Luke 4:32, “his message had authority”).

8. Logos mean assertion; declaration; teaching (John 6:60, “this is a hard teaching”).

9. Logos mean the subject under discussion; matter (Acts 8:21, “you have no part or share in this ministry.” Acts 15:6 (NASB), “And the apostles… came together to look into this matter”).

10. Logos mean revelation from God (Matt. 15:6, “you nullify the Word of God ”).

11. Logos mean God’s revelation spoken by His servants (Heb. 13:7, “leaders who spoke the Word of God”).

12. Logos mean a reckoning, an account (Matt. 12:36, “men will have to give account” on the day of judgment).

13. Logos mean an account or “matter” in a financial sense (Matt. 18:23, A king who wanted to settle “accounts” with his servants. Phil. 4:15, “the matter of giving and receiving”).

14. Logos means a reason; motive (Acts 10:29 – NASB), “I ask for what reason you have sent for me”).

Janosky:

Gen1:26, God disclosed His idea to create,to another being , don't twist it,abeg you.
Who God, Greek meaning facing towards the God.
One being can NEVER face himself).
John 1:18 no man has seen God at anytime...
The emphasis: "At anytime" renders Trinitarians interpretation of John 1:1,14 USELESS...

John 7:29,Aquillapriscilla is from her Father who sent her,how does that prove that she is her Father?

Your claims on John 10:30 is not true...
Why?
John 10:30 gave to Jesus, confirmed in 1Cor 3:22,23. John 7:16.
Shalom.

I was reading your post ,but when I came to the portion that says 1john5:7
Is fraud,I concluded you are not someone I should converse with
Iam just quoting to remind you of 2timothy 3:16,17
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,
That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works

Aquilapriscilla:

I was reading your post ,but when I came to the portion that says 1john5:7
Is fraud,I concluded you are not someone I should converse with
Iam just quoting to remind you of 2timothy 3:16,17
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,
That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works

My dear the truth is bitter...
All Scriptures is inspired of God, but some parts of KJV were not. For instance,1john5:7(KJV).
Your pastors knows it but few would admit it in public.


Go ahead & cure your ignorance....
Go & read 1 John 5:7 in different Bible versions..
You would notice that KJV says something different from others...
Begin your research from there....
Please "Google 1John5:7 Biblehub."
You're learn more....

The info below is from Bibleref....
Source:Bible ref.com/1John5:7..

"1 John 5:7 Parallel Verses [⇓ See commentary ⇓]
1 John 5:7, NIV: "For there are three that testify:"

1 John 5:7, ESV: "For there are three that testify:"

1 John 5:7, KJV: "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

1 John 5:7, NASB: "For there are three that testify:"

1 John 5:7, NLT: "So we have these three witnesses--"

1 John 5:7, CSB: "For there are three that testify:"

What does 1 John 5:7 mean? [⇑ See verse text ⇑]
This short verse simply emphasizes John's claim that there is evidence proving Jesus is the Son of God. In verse 6, these were defined as the water, the blood, and the Spirit. These refer to God's voice at Jesus' baptism, His crucifixion and resurrection, and the witness of the Holy Spirit. In verse 8, John will note that these three agree. In verse 9, John points out that the testimony of God is greater than that of men, making his a powerful and convincing argument that Jesus is the Son of God.

Some have suggested that water and blood refer to the Father and Son to make the case that all three Persons of the Trinity are involved in the testimony. While possible, this is unlikely since John is providing testimony that Jesus is God's Son. He would not use Jesus as testimony since He would be testifying for Himself (John 5:31). This would explain why John uses the concepts of water and blood as the two others who testify that Jesus is God's Son.

The transition between this verse and verse 8 is sometimes the subject of controversy. The source material of the King James Version, the Textus Receptus, adds a reference to "the Father, the Word and the Holy Ghost." This phrase is not found in any of the earliest manuscripts, and wasn't even in the earliest produced copies of the Textus Receptus. A likely explanation is that the passage was harmonized for use in liturgy. Over time, this harmonization found its way into manuscript copies. Once included in the Latin Vulgate, it became widespread."


Shalom.

Justright34:
Jesus testify that God is Lord and he is not referring to himself as God, or Lord or the son of God. and he stated that this our Lord is One and not 3


Mark 12:29, KJV: "And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:"


The first of all the commandments is that God our Lord is one Lord.

Which simply implies that "Laila Ila Allah"

No other gods or lords but the only God the creator of all creatures as we Muslim believes


Now my question is this

Jesus said it vividly that "God is our Lord and He is one.

1) why do Christian have divergent of opinion about God being in 3 forms ?

2)Why do Christians call Jesus as God?

3) Why do Christians call Jesus as son of God ?

4) Why do Christians believe its possible to have Lord of son and lord of God when the verse above stated it clearly that you should believe in only one God ?

Thanks for your productive nd educative response in advance

Justright34, You picked only ONE statement of Jesus and you want to build your entire claim on it. But if I pick a portion of the Koran where it says "FIGHT all non-Moslems" you will cry foul.

Look at the other claims by Jesus:
"I and the Father are One [in essence and nature].”
John 10:30 AMP

"But if I am doing them, even if you do not believe Me or have faith in Me, [at least] believe the works [that I do--admit that they are the works of God], so that you may know and keep on knowing [clearly--without any doubt] that the Father is in Me, and I am in the Father [that is, I am One with Him].”
John 10:38 AMP

"Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me; otherwise believe [Me] because of the [very] works themselves [which you have witnessed].
John 14:11 AMP

Jesus's quote of Deuteronomy in Mark 12:29 uses 'one' to mean "unified oneness". It does not mean 'one' as in number. The Hebrew has another word that means 'ONLY ONE'. Therefore that statement refers to God as being "UNIQUE" and not as God being only one singular person.

So, while Jesus is stating that God is UNIQUE in that portion of Mark gospel he equally affirms in the other passages I quoted and many others that he is part of that UNIFIED ONENESS with God.

ContractKiller:

The devil is your own guiding spirit cos I don't think any holy spirit will be available to support you!

So since we have now confirmed how your Bible was doctored to make Jesus special than he was!

Why was Logos translated differently in only seven places out of over 300 places in the new testament?

Anyways, make I no waste my time with! You no Sabi the religion you profess!

Na to only abuse you Sabi!

Bye

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AntiChristian:


The devil is your own guiding spirit cos I don't think any holy spirit will be available to support you!

So since we have now confirmed how your Bible was doctored to make Jesus special than he was!

Why was Logos translated differently in only seven places out of over 300 places in the new testament?

Anyways, make I no waste my time with! You no Sabi the religion you profess!

Na to only abuse you Sabi!

Bye

sagenaija:
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Justright34, You picked only ONE statement of Jesus and you want to build your entire claim on it. But if I pick a portion of the Koran where it says "FIGHT all non-Moslems" you will cry foul.

Look at the other claims by Jesus:
"I and the Father are One [in essence and nature].”
John 10:30 AMP

"But if I am doing them, even if you do not believe Me or have faith in Me, [at least] believe the works [that I do--admit that they are the works of God], so that you may know and keep on knowing [clearly--without any doubt] that the Father is in Me, and I am in the Father [that is, I am One with Him].”
John 10:38 AMP

"Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me; otherwise believe [Me] because of the [very] works themselves [which you have witnessed].
John 14:11 AMP

Jesus's quote of Deuteronomy in Mark 12:29 uses 'one' to mean "unified oneness". It does not mean 'one' as in number. The Hebrew has another word that means 'ONLY ONE'. Therefore that statement refers to God as being "UNIQUE" and not as God being only one singular person.

So, while Jesus is stating that God is UNIQUE in that portion of Mark gospel he equally affirms in the other passages I quoted and many others that he is part of that UNIFIED ONENESS with God.

You're trying so hard to put Trinitarians twist into the holy Scriptures...

Your claims on John 10:30,38 & John 14:11 not true...
Why?
John 10:30,38,&14:11 equal to John 17:20-23, 1Cor3:5-8,23.

John 10:30 equal to 1Cor3:5-8.. Paul and Apollos are One just as God and Christ followers are one..(John 17:20-23).
The same point Jesus Christ made in John 10:30,38 & John 14:11 he further emphasized in John 17:20-23..
You dey see am?


John10:30 also equal to Matt10:40 ,Jesus and his followers are Representatives, teaching the message that the Most High ,Yahweh gave to Jesus, confirmed in 1Cor 3:22,23. John 7:16.
Shalom.

Janosky:


You're trying so hard to put Trinitarians twist into the holy Scriptures...

Your claims on John 10:30,38 & John 14:11 not true...
Why?
John 10:30,38,&14:11 equal to John 17:20-23, 1Cor3:5-8,23.

John 10:30 equal to 1Cor3:5-8.. Paul and Apollos are One just as God and Christ followers are one..(John 17:20-23).
The same point Jesus Christ made in John 10:30,38 & John 14:11 he further emphasized in John 17:20-23..
You dey see am?


John10:30 also equal to Matt10:40 ,Jesus and his followers are Representatives, teaching the message that the Most High ,Yahweh gave to Jesus, confirmed in 1Cor 3:22,23. John 7:16.
Shalom.

See what his hearers understood him to have said:
John 10:33 “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”
Also:
John 17:5
"And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began".