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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 11:41am On Mar 31, 2020 |
ornicus:Where did you read 4 out of 5 from a set of 65? “The emergency authorisation comes on the back of results from a small study in France, in which four out of five COVID-19 patients who were treated with chloroquine had ‘favourable’ outcomes.“ ”The results also demonstrated that 65 of the 80 patients receiving chloroquine treatment improved and were discharged from hospital in an average of less than five days.” Read again this time slowly 4 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 11:44am On Mar 31, 2020 |
Zuorom: Pretend you don't know there is only one person right now who is not a beholden trump sycopant - Dr fauci. Have you somehow missed the last three years of purging every department of competent technocrats and replacement of same with craven stooges? There is no quick fix for this. Your reckless tin god will kill Americans with his desperation to form wartime president. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Zuorom: 11:47am On Mar 31, 2020 |
wirinet:Kokaneprodigy is right, he actually underestimated it, It's 78 out of 80 that recovered within five days when chloroquine was used to treat them in France. It's not false information https://www.ibtimes.com/coronavirus-treatment-france-officially-sanctions-drug-after-975-patients-recovered-2949364 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 11:49am On Mar 31, 2020 |
ornicus:The solution is social distancing? For how long would we continue with social distancing? How will businesses run with social distancing. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Zuorom: 11:49am On Mar 31, 2020 |
kokaneprodigy:You're right, I have the story here, eventually 78 out of 80 recovered after chloroquine treatment https://www.ibtimes.com/coronavirus-treatment-france-officially-sanctions-drug-after-975-patients-recovered-2949364 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Zuorom: 11:49am On Mar 31, 2020 |
ornicus: https://www.ibtimes.com/coronavirus-treatment-france-officially-sanctions-drug-after-975-patients-recovered-2949364 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 11:50am On Mar 31, 2020 |
Zuorom:Making speculations sound like facts is a trait common with leftists. 3 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 11:51am On Mar 31, 2020 |
kokaneprodigy: Lets take the republican proposal and kill off all the old and useless people. Is that better? |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 11:54am On Mar 31, 2020 |
Zuorom:He would tell you a Trump forced France to approve it. 3 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 11:55am On Mar 31, 2020 |
Zuorom: Ok ooo. Lets watch. You see the article has the exact same caveats Also, the U.S.FDA has acted fast to make the unproven treatment available to thousands of COVID-19 patients in New York, despite the fact the following facts: |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Zuorom: 11:57am On Mar 31, 2020 |
The media in the US is deliberately trying to suppress the news of several successful application of chloroquine to combat the coronavirus infection. Even Google is suppressing positive search results. You have to dig deeper before finding this news on Google. It's almost as if liberals have a vested interest in making sure the death toll from this virus is as high as possible. https://www.dailywire.com/news/france-officially-sanctions-drug-after-78-of-80-patients-recover-from-covid-19-within-five-days 3 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 11:58am On Mar 31, 2020 |
ornicus:Dude your argument lacks logic Nd you talk like a 9 year old. People can’t go to work and earn money, businesses are locked down cos we are observing social distancing with no end in sight and you think trying a drug with hope of getting a lasting solution is wrong. Do you know the economic impacts of businesses being shut down all around the world? You think at some point people won’t shun social distancing in order not to die of starvation? 4 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 12:03pm On Mar 31, 2020 |
Zuorom: Even at 78 out of 80, that's 2.5% fatality rate, which is well within the average. You guys behave as Trump's words equate to the koran and his worshippers must defend it with their lives. This is what the link said;
Even UK is weary of using the untested drug on its own citizens;
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 12:04pm On Mar 31, 2020 |
kokaneprodigy: Foolish boy, an economy is of no use if people are dead from disease.Your corporate president is doing what reckless ceos do - looking for a quick fix that ends up compounding the problem. Now he is wasting resources on a wild goose chase. What you are looking at is the end result of hyper capitalism, a system with no buffers to withstand any shocks, and of course the hypocrisy where governments deny the tenets of capitalism ( only the strong survive) and prop up companies that displayed the same recklessness as the joker in the White House. I suggest you read on what the health experts have to say, not the jokers at Fox News. The Chinese shut down wuhan. It worked. Learn from that, instead of this laziness and gimmickry. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 12:11pm On Mar 31, 2020 |
ornicus:You are definitely a nine year old cos you don’t understand how this works and if you are an adult please do not reproduce. We don’t want more of your type. If you lock down cities, countries and people, how long will it take before they run out of food. How long will the country keep sharing money till it runs out. Where would more food come from to replenish the country. People will either start dying of depression or starvation. Hence the earlier a cure is found the better. But you won’t comprehend cos you are irredeemably dull. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 12:17pm On Mar 31, 2020 |
Zuorom:The media cannot suppress anything. There are scientists that are specialised in the field, such as Micro biologists, virologists, epidemiologists, etc. They research claims and come out with their findings, which will help others in the medical profession cure their patients. Coronaviruses had been with us for millenia, and will continue to be with us for millenia more. If a simple drug like chloroquine was the cure, believe, that would have been discovered before even it's use for malaria. It will not take a messiah in the mold of Trump to give us the revelation. I have always said that there is a world wide medical scam in common flu and coronaviruses in general. The pharmaceuticals are raking in billions to sell a cure for a disease we all know is incurable. They sell all sorts of miracle cure for the common Cold, which a few days rest and immune boosting supplements will cure. I stopped buying all these rubbish over 20 years ago, eg actifed, procold, and lots more I can't remember now. They are all useless. Common Cold (flu) will kill those it will kill, but majority will survive it and move on, until the next infection. Same with covid19. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Zuorom: 12:31pm On Mar 31, 2020 |
wirinet:It's a zero fatality rate because no one died. The UK position is now probably untenable since they have to explain why they aren’t providing treatment as France and the US. Anyhow you look at it, the use of chloroquine gives more people a chance to survive than a situation where people are just being allowed to die like chicken if they can't recover on their own. None of those treated with chloroquine showed any adverse effects so what's the problem with using it? 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 12:38pm On Mar 31, 2020 |
Zuorom:That’s how people fail aptitude test/ logical questions. No where was it stated that those that haven’t progressed and discharged during the treatment died. But he assumed they did like they are mutually non-exclusive events. 6 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by stanech: 2:55pm On Mar 31, 2020 |
LAST WEEK: Trump mocked for suggesting "sanitizing masks" and the drug Chloroquine. TODAY: Technology can sanitize 120,000 masks/day and Chloroquine has been approved by FDA for #CoronaVirus. Any questions? 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 6:19pm On Mar 31, 2020 |
garetz:you like trump speak from both sides of your mouth, my opposition to your rubbish was/is specific! If like tRump you can't backtrack on your apparent stupidity it is not my concern, better yet, go and overdose on chloroquine as prophylaxis after Dr tRump couldn't go wrong, could he? tRump supporters are a breed the world could do without |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 6:29pm On Mar 31, 2020 |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 6:43pm On Mar 31, 2020 |
GalaticHorde:Trump saying it has been approved by FDA never meant you should involve in self medication. FDA approving it is not same as self medicate. Self medication is wrong , whether Covid or not. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 6:47pm On Mar 31, 2020 |
GalaticHorde:As usual, when your lack of knowledge is exposed, you descend into the gutter and start looking for a mud fight. Go and look for another pig to rumble in the mud with you. I'm not one of your kind 3 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by tolexy007(m): 7:49pm On Mar 31, 2020 |
Zuorom: is because it was Trump that made the announcement, 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 4:45am On Apr 01, 2020 |
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/31/white-house-pressures-fda-japanese-drug-157587 For anyone foolish enough not to understand that trump is a reckless man who will continue to run after unproven drugs and force the fda to issue even more emergency approvals 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 8:14am On Apr 01, 2020 |
ornicus:So you think Trump would wake up one morning to talk about Chloroquine if he wasn’t informed by his medical team of it’s potential. The issue here is that the FDA is divided as some feel in the face of this pandemic sufficient test has been done to approve it while others feel the need to exhaust all medical procedures before approving it. Don’t forget that The longer it takes the more the virus spreads there are political undertones to these things too. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 8:20am On Apr 01, 2020 |
kokaneprodigy: Read the article. Do you know how cautious the fda traditionally is with regards to drugs? Read about thalidomide. In the 60s and 70s, the drug rook off in Europe. The FDA did not allow it in the us. 9 months later, babies with severe defects were born in the UK. The us escaped this because of the fda and it’s leadership at the time. Now you have a burn it all down reckless joker only concerned with his poll numbers and loyalty. Give trump enough time, and he will be forcing the fda to approve Maurice Iwus purported herbal cure. The worst part is that if any of his recklessness leads to mass deaths he will absolve himself, and the same trump worshippers on this site will turn on the fda that allowed themselves to be forced into this 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 8:55am On Apr 01, 2020 |
ornicus:Your first and second paragraphs agree with my post. Reason there’s a division even in the FDA btwn those that want to work strictly by the guidelines of approval processes and those who feel they can skip some considering the success rate in the face of this pandemic. Sometimes you just gat to fvck tradition, that’s where discretion comes to play. This is a peculiar issue and not the regular situation. FDA can decide to take decades to approve a new type of anti-malaria believed to be better than what we currently have no one would give a Bleep cos we have alternatives that won’t let malaria result in a pandemic. Social distancing can only reduce the rate of spread, the best bet is to find a cure as soon as possible. Cos this social distancing thing resulting in lock downs everywhere will lead to a global recession and depression, a lot of people will lose their jobs after this pandemic, some middle class will become poor, some companies will fail to exist after this, if it stays long enough people will start dying of starvation and depression and not Covid and this is not about US alone. reason Nations were slow to locking down their countries it’s not that easy. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 9:11am On Apr 01, 2020 |
kokaneprodigy: The real problem, too much freedom. I live in FESTAC and I told my kids, if this was China and it happened here, they would have welded all the gates shut, built a wall around the city and enforced quarantine. Every major outbreak ends when it burns itself out. I stand to be corrected, but if I recall, there is no cure for any viral disease. The best we have are vaccines. What should have been done and is still not being done is to deploy all available resources to flattening the curve and ensuring people survive. Finding a cure is a pipe dream trump keeps chasing. It is fine to do it, but keep it in the background and stop giving people false hope. If this was ww2, trump would have been announcing to everyone we are working on the atom bomb before it was ready. He would have announced every half assed, theoretical super weapon before it had been properly developed and tested As to companies failing, this is as I have said before the result of decades of hyper capitalism. No universal health care, poorly paid workers one paycheck from bankruptcy, greedy ceos with their bloated remuneration and stock buybacks. Greed has built a system that cannot weather any shocks 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 12:00pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
kokaneprodigy:The same Trump that did a Google search of Seoul and saw elevation - 38m, and immediately went on to announce on national TV, that he knows south korea better than anybody and that the population of Seoul is 38million https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA9P7n6P-ss Trump behaves and talks like a semi illiterate 2 Likes
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 12:14pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
wirinet:Your analogy doesn’t relate |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Born2Freak(f): 12:25pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
Wowcatty and goldmaxx and any other Trump supporter... 1 Like
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