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Re: Soyinka Reacts To COVID-19 Lockdown: 'We Are Not In War Emergency' by lexy2014: 6:41pm On Apr 01, 2020
djon78:


My reply answered the question.
If you cant deduce or see it,
Then it' isn't my fault
Maybe you should look deeper

This is d entire article with several quotes from d professor. Pls identify those quotes where he said he was against d lockdown:


Nobel laureate, Prof. Wole Soyinka, has questioned the legality of the lockdown ordered by the President, Major General Muhammadu Buhari (retd.).

The PUNCH reports that Buhari had on Sunday ordered the lockdown of Abuja, Lagos and Ogun States in a bid to curb the spread of coronavirus in the country.

But Soyinka in a statement on Monday wondered if the president has the power to order such lockdown.

The Nobel laureate called on constitutional lawyers and lawmakers to clarify the legality or illegality of the lockdown.

He also warned against “constitutional piracy” in the fight against coronavirus in the country.

The statement, titled ‘Between COVID and Constitutional Encroachment’, read in part, “Constitutional lawyers and our elected representatives should kindly step into this and educate us, mere lay minds. The worst development I can conceive of us is to have a situation where rational measures for the containment of the Coronavirus pandemic are rejected on account of their questionable genesis.

“This is a time for Unity of Purpose, not nitpicking dissensions. So, before this becomes a habit, a question: does President Buhari have the powers to close down state borders? We want clear answers. We are not in a war emergency.

“Appropriately focussed on measures for the saving lives, and committed to making sacrifices for the preservation of our communities, we should nonetheless remain alert to any encroachment on constitutionally demarcated powers. We need to exercise collective vigilance, and not compromise the future by submitting to interventions that are not backed by law and constitution.

“Who actually instigates these orders anyway? From where do they really emerge? What happens when the orders conflict with state measures, the product of a systematic containment strategy – `including even trial-and-error and hiccups – undertaken without let or leave of the Centre. So far, the anti-COVID-19 measures have proceeded along the rails of decentralised thinking, multilateral collaboration and technical exchanges between states.

“The Centre is obviously part of the entire process, and one expects this to be the norm, even without the epidemic’s frontal assault on the Presidency itself. Indeed, the Centre is expected to drive the overall effort, but in collaboration, with extraordinary budgeting and refurbishing of facilities.

“The universal imperative and urgency of this affliction should not become an opportunistic launch pad for a sneak RE-CENTRALISATION, no matter how seemingly insignificant its appearance. I urge governors and legislators to be especially watchful. No epidemic is ever cured with constitutional piracy. It only lays down new political viruses for the future.”
Re: Soyinka Reacts To COVID-19 Lockdown: 'We Are Not In War Emergency' by djon78(m): 8:07pm On Apr 01, 2020
lexy2014:


This is d entire article with several quotes from d professor. Pls identify those quotes where he said he was against d lockdown:


Nobel laureate, Prof. Wole Soyinka, has questioned the legality of the lockdown ordered by the President, Major General Muhammadu Buhari (retd.).

The PUNCH reports that Buhari had on Sunday ordered the lockdown of Abuja, Lagos and Ogun States in a bid to curb the spread of coronavirus in the country.

But Soyinka in a statement on Monday wondered if the president has the power to order such lockdown.

The Nobel laureate called on constitutional lawyers and lawmakers to clarify the legality or illegality of the lockdown.

He also warned against “constitutional piracy” in the fight against coronavirus in the country.

The statement, titled ‘Between COVID and Constitutional Encroachment’, read in part, “Constitutional lawyers and our elected representatives should kindly step into this and educate us, mere lay minds. The worst development I can conceive of us is to have a situation where rational measures for the containment of the Coronavirus pandemic are rejected on account of their questionable genesis.

“This is a time for Unity of Purpose, not nitpicking dissensions. So, before this becomes a habit, a question: does President Buhari have the powers to close down state borders? We want clear answers. We are not in a war emergency.

“Appropriately focussed on measures for the saving lives, and committed to making sacrifices for the preservation of our communities, we should nonetheless remain alert to any encroachment on constitutionally demarcated powers. We need to exercise collective vigilance, and not compromise the future by submitting to interventions that are not backed by law and constitution.

“Who actually instigates these orders anyway? From where do they really emerge? What happens when the orders conflict with state measures, the product of a systematic containment strategy – `including even trial-and-error and hiccups – undertaken without let or leave of the Centre. So far, the anti-COVID-19 measures have proceeded along the rails of decentralised thinking, multilateral collaboration and technical exchanges between states.

“The Centre is obviously part of the entire process, and one expects this to be the norm, even without the epidemic’s frontal assault on the Presidency itself. Indeed, the Centre is expected to drive the overall effort, but in collaboration, with extraordinary budgeting and refurbishing of facilities.

“The universal imperative and urgency of this affliction should not become an opportunistic launch pad for a sneak RE-CENTRALISATION, no matter how seemingly insignificant its appearance. I urge governors and legislators to be especially watchful. No epidemic is ever cured with constitutional piracy. It only lays down new political viruses for the future.”




Challenge the legality of the lock down is what?
Re: Soyinka Reacts To COVID-19 Lockdown: 'We Are Not In War Emergency' by CoolAmbience(m): 9:14pm On Apr 01, 2020
viccipedia:
shut up and breathe... the award no help your life or your generation life. They were intellects when they looted everything. Their generation of intellect brought this on us.




And how has your 'non achievement' and 'no bodiness' helped your family or generation?

Your dependency mentality has become more glaring with your expectation that Soyinka or any Nigerian award recipient or achiever is supposed to share their deserving gain with you.

You, undoubtedly, must be one of the lazy youths out there!
Re: Soyinka Reacts To COVID-19 Lockdown: 'We Are Not In War Emergency' by viccipedia: 9:38pm On Apr 01, 2020
CoolAmbience:





And how has your 'non achievement' and 'no bodiness' helped your family or generation?

Your dependency mentality has become more glaring with your expectation that Soyinka or any Nigerian award recipient or achiever is supposed to share their deserving gain with you.

You, undoubtedly, must be one of the lazy youths out there!




No bruh you just another stupid kid who lacks comprehension. If you don’t understand something don’t comment. If from just a few paragraphs you deduced everything up there, then your parents should be worried.
Re: Soyinka Reacts To COVID-19 Lockdown: 'We Are Not In War Emergency' by CoolAmbience(m): 7:11am On Apr 02, 2020
viccipedia:
No bruh you just another stupid kid who lacks comprehension. If you don’t understand something don’t comment. If from just a few paragraphs you deduced everything up there, then your parents should be worried.


Exactly my point!

Your parents should be really worried that you aren't growing up to be a responsible adult.

If you were anything close to responsible, you would have known better not to undermine the person of Prof. Soyinka for expressing his candid view on a critical national issue.

What did you mean by 'who Soyinka help?' Na Soyinka be your father? You claim to be an adult yet you do not have the slightest idea how Soyinka and other young African writers put Africa on the global map with their literary prowesses?

Soyinka has remained a strong voice against any form of repression by successive Nigerian governments. He was in the forefront of the fight for Nigeria's independence from Great Britain. In 1967, he got arrested and put in solitary confinement for 2 years during the civil war.

Under Abacha, a death sentence was passed on him in absentia. Quit lazying around, go and find out why?

In 1965, he seized the WNBS studio to demand for the cancellation of the Western Nigeria Regional Elections, which was riddled with malpractices, and a sham.

Soyinka has taught at Harvard, Oxford and Yale, just to mention a few. And you dare ask 'who Soyinka help?

He has provided and continues to provide invaluable inspiration and illumination to the paths of young people, especially those in the literary profession, in their millions, across the world.

Kid, money can't buy that. Everything isn't about naira and kobo.

If you have ever earned any tangible national, continental or global award, you would understand not to undermine people who have. I have won national, continental and global awards. So, I know better not to undermine great minds like Soyinka and others.

You are obviously not just lazy, but require urgent emotional help.
Re: Soyinka Reacts To COVID-19 Lockdown: 'We Are Not In War Emergency' by viccipedia: 10:05am On Apr 02, 2020
CoolAmbience:



Exactly my point!

Your parents should be really worried that you aren't growing up to be a responsible adult.

If you were anything close to responsible, you would have known better not to undermine the person of Prof. Soyinka for expressing his candid view on a critical national issue.

What did you mean by 'who Soyinka help?' Na Soyinka be your father? You claim to be an adult yet you do not have the slightest idea how Soyinka and other young African writers put Africa on the global map with their literary prowesses?

Soyinka has remained a strong voice against any form of repression by successive Nigerian governments. He was in the forefront of the fight for Nigeria's independence from Great Britain. In 1967, he got arrested and put in solitary confinement for 2 years during the civil war.

Under Abacha, a death sentence was passed on him in absentia. Quit lazying around, go and find out why?

In 1965, he seized the WNBS studio to demand for the cancellation of the Western Nigeria Regional Elections, which was riddled with malpractices, and a sham.

Soyinka has taught at Harvard, Oxford and Yale, just to mention a few. And you dare ask 'who Soyinka help?

He has provided and continues to provide invaluable inspiration and illumination to the paths of young people, especially those in the literary profession, in their millions, across the world.

Kid, money can't buy that. Everything isn't about naira and kobo.

If you have ever earned any tangible national, continental or global award, you would understand not to undermine people who have. I have won national, continental and global awards. So, I know better not to undermine great minds like Soyinka and others.

You are obviously not just lazy, but require urgent emotional help.












Noted and ignored! So many words without any sense. Like I said, you’re just a stupid kid who lacks comprehension. I leave you in your ignorance.
Re: Soyinka Reacts To COVID-19 Lockdown: 'We Are Not In War Emergency' by lexy2014: 5:29pm On Apr 02, 2020
djon78:





Challenge the legality of the lock down is what?

Unfortunately, u weren't able to identify any quote he said he was against d lockdown. Am also glad that u said he "challenged the legality of the lockdown".

Pls read this:

“Constitutional lawyers and our elected representatives should kindly step into this and educate us, mere lay minds. The worst development I can conceive of us is to have a situation where rational measures for the containment of the Coronavirus pandemic are rejected on account of their questionable genesis.

“This is a time for Unity of Purpose, not nitpicking dissensions. So, before this becomes a habit, a question: does President Buhari have the powers to close down state borders? We want clear answers. We are not in a war emergency.

“Appropriately focussed on measures for the saving lives, and committed to making sacrifices for the preservation of our communities, we should nonetheless remain alert to any encroachment on constitutionally demarcated powers. We need to exercise collective vigilance, and not compromise the future by submitting to interventions that are not backed by law and constitution."

In summary, if d lockdown has constitutional backing then it is OK. If it doesn't, then it isn't ok
Re: Soyinka Reacts To COVID-19 Lockdown: 'We Are Not In War Emergency' by CoolAmbience(m): 10:09pm On Apr 02, 2020
viccipedia:
Noted and ignored! So many words without any sense. Like I said, you’re just a stupid kid who lacks comprehension. I leave you in your ignorance.



See a foolish bigot calling someone names.

You exemplify gross ignorance and stupidity.
Re: Soyinka Reacts To COVID-19 Lockdown: 'We Are Not In War Emergency' by viccipedia: 12:48am On Apr 03, 2020
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CoolAmbience:




See a foolish bigot calling someone names.

You exemplify gross ignorance and stupidity.



tongue
Re: Soyinka Reacts To COVID-19 Lockdown: 'We Are Not In War Emergency' by djon78(m): 8:59am On Apr 03, 2020
lexy2014:


Unfortunately, u weren't able to identify any quote he said he was against d lockdown. Am also glad that u said he "challenged the legality of the lockdown".

Pls read this:

“Constitutional lawyers and our elected representatives should kindly step into this and educate us, mere lay minds. The worst development I can conceive of us is to have a situation where rational measures for the containment of the Coronavirus pandemic are rejected on account of their questionable genesis.

“This is a time for Unity of Purpose, not nitpicking dissensions. So, before this becomes a habit, a question: does President Buhari have the powers to close down state borders? We want clear answers. We are not in a war emergency.

“Appropriately focussed on measures for the saving lives, and committed to making sacrifices for the preservation of our communities, we should nonetheless remain alert to any encroachment on constitutionally demarcated powers. We need to exercise collective vigilance, and not compromise the future by submitting to interventions that are not backed by law and constitution."

In summary, if d lockdown has constitutional backing then it is OK. If it doesn't, then it isn't ok



I don't like long argument. If it doesn't have constitutional backing then it's not OK.

Whether OK or not the government did the right thing. By ordering the lock down.

Bill Gates was speaking yesterday that America missed the chance to lock down early.
Now it will take the US next 10 weeks to even stabilize the predicament. And you can guess the number of death, it will leave on its wake. May God have mercy on them.

The government did the right thing.
They should only ensure that there is effective and adequate measures in supporting the citizens.
Re: Soyinka Reacts To COVID-19 Lockdown: 'We Are Not In War Emergency' by lexy2014: 9:04am On Apr 03, 2020
djon78:



I don't like long argument. If it doesn't have constitutional backing then it's not OK.

Whether OK or not the government did the right thing. By ordering the lock down.

Bill Gates was speaking yesterday that America missed the chance to lock down early.
Now it will take the US next 10 weeks to even stabilize the predicament. And you can guess the number of death, it will leave on its wake. May God have mercy on them.

The government did the right thing.
They should only ensure that there is effective and adequate measures in supporting the citizens.

If u don't like long argument, then what exactly have u said here? I honestly don't understand. Its neither here nor there. U are bringing in what Bill Gates said when u don't even understand what Sole Soyinka said. Don't complicate things for yourself.

U said d govt did d right thing. Now if I ask u to show me were Soyinka said d govt didn't do d right thing, u will be parambulating and going round in circles without addressing anything.
Re: Soyinka Reacts To COVID-19 Lockdown: 'We Are Not In War Emergency' by djon78(m): 9:48am On Apr 03, 2020
lexy2014:


If u don't like long argument, then what exactly have u said here? I honestly don't understand. Its neither here nor there. U are bringing in what Bill Gates said when u don't even understand what Sole Soyinka said. Don't complicate things for yourself.

U said d govt did d right thing. Now if I ask u to show me were Soyinka said d govt didn't do d right thing, u will be parambulating and going round in circles without addressing anything.


If Soyinka said the government did the right thing why was he exchanging words with the FG media team? To the extent they were insulting him that he was not a scientist?


I think you have basic comprehension ability.
Re: Soyinka Reacts To COVID-19 Lockdown: 'We Are Not In War Emergency' by lexy2014: 4:22pm On Apr 03, 2020
djon78:



If Soyinka said the government did the right thing why was he exchanging words with the FG media team? To the extent they were insulting him that he was not a scientist?


I think you have basic comprehension ability.

And with ur advanced comprehension ability, u just couldn't answer this simple question:

"Is there anywhere that Prof Soyinka said there shouldn't be a lockdown?"

I even did u a favour by copying and pasting d whole article for u, yet nothing. I went as far as extracting d professors quotes from d article, u still couldn't answer d question. U are very intelligent
Re: Soyinka Reacts To COVID-19 Lockdown: 'We Are Not In War Emergency' by djon78(m): 8:47pm On Apr 03, 2020
lexy2014:


And with ur advanced comprehension ability, u just couldn't answer this simple question:

"Is there anywhere that Prof Soyinka said there shouldn't be a lockdown?"

I even did u a favour by copying and pasting d whole article for u, yet nothing. I went as far as extracting d professors quotes from d article, u still couldn't answer d question. U are very intelligent




Bye bye
Go and get proper education.

I may even be chatting with a kid.
Nothing person no go see for this forum
Re: Soyinka Reacts To COVID-19 Lockdown: 'We Are Not In War Emergency' by lexy2014: 10:37pm On Apr 04, 2020
djon78:





Bye bye
Go and get proper education.

I may even be chatting with a kid.
Nothing person no go see for this forum

I never said that I have proper education neither did I say that am an adult because those have absolutely nothing to do with d discussion. With someone with proper education & who is an adult, I thought u knew better.

With ur status as a properly educated adult, am still trying to understand why u can't answer a simple question asked u by a kid without proper education? Heres d question once again:

"Is there anywhere that Prof Soyinka said there shouldn't be a lockdown?"

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