komekn:


My Dad taught microbiology at a university in the UK before coming to Nigeria.

At the same time he was an officer in the British army, specifically biological and chemical warfare programme.

Although l know all the regiments he served at, l had no knowledge of the details or depth of the programme, defensive or offensive.hey due how do i chat u up in private

Just to satisfy your curiosity and so you don't make wrong assumptions.

It's not as popular now but in my time it was very common for university students to enrol in reserve officer training. For one it gets you extra money in your pocket as well as very exciting times.

However, the last 20 years has seen the trend not so attractive. Because you know you are going to get deployed, and well that might not be so funny.

bidexiii:
ARMED FORCES OF NIGERIA RAMPS UP ATTACKS ON BOKO HARAM LOCATIONS, TAKES OUT SEVERAL TERRORISTS IN AIR STRIKES AT PARISU IN BORNO STATE

1. In furtherance of the objective of restoring peace and security in the North East of the Country, the Armed Forces of Nigeria, through the Air Task Force of Operation LAFIYA DOLE, has ramped up attacks against terrorists’ locations in Borno State. The latest of these attacks was executed at Parisu, a Boko Haram Terrorists’ hideout, within the Sambisa Forest on 31 March 2020, after series of Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance (ISR) missions revealed a resurgence of activities within the settlement.

2. Fighter jets dispatched by the Air Task Force to attack the hideout took turns in engaging the location, resulting in the destruction of some of the structures as well as the killing of several terrorists. Other fighters, who attempted to reposition themselves in order to engage the attack aircraft, were taken out in follow-on strikes at their hiding places under shrubbery.

3. The Armed Forces of Nigeria, working in synergy with counterpart security agencies and stakeholders, will sustain the tempo of offensive action against all elements inimical to the peace and security of our beloved Nation.

4. You are please requested to disseminate this information and show the attached declassified short video clip of the attack through your medium for the awareness of the general public. Thank you for your usual support and cooperation.

BERNARD ONYEUKO
Brigadier General
Acting Director Defence Media Operations
Defence Headquarters

komekn:


Below is an excerpt from one of the most prolific contributors on this thread Bidexiii.


In August 2017, the US State Department approved the sale of the 12 A-29 Super Tucano, spares, support equipment and services, and associated weapons for $593 million to the Nigerian Air Force .

I had read a report on this but can't be bothered trying to find it.

But l am not the only one with that view of costing of $600 million.

Do you think this procurement is " Best Value " and the most effective use of our very scarce resources.

kabe1:


Nigeria has fully paid for the Super Tucano.

We did not pay 600 million for it like you earlier insinuated.

komekn:


Who told you that?

Are you able to substantiate that position with sources from both ends Nigerian and US.

komekn:


Who told you that?

Are you able to substantiate that position with sources from both ends Nigerian and US.

Finally, where are they❓

And do you think that is the best use of o very scarce resources. Paying for planes that will not be delivered until 2024.

Considering the dire state our armed forces find themselves in the SE, can anybody call that wisdom.

kabe1:


Did you bother opening the link I shared?

komekn:


The vanguard source❓

That is a newspaper report not a USA state department information gazetted bulletin.

The term l used was substantiate, that's why l said two way sources USA and Nigerian.

But it's not particularly important, we know that whole cost is $600 million of which we will not see any of these aircraft being deployed for some years to come. And according to some we have paid buy we have nothing to show.

Which brings us back to the core subject, is this the most judicious use of our very scarce resources for best value and greatest delivery impact❓ . In the context of the SE and our most pressing need at the moment.

komekn:





Is that wisdom.

Fynline:


Here lies the problem...proliferation of what should not be called special forces. The airforce too is not exempted. Sometimes these guys end up been used to do police work

WASHINGTON, Aug. 3, 2017 - The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to the Government of Nigeria of twelve (12) A-29 Super Tucano aircraft and weapons, including all associated training, spare parts, aviation and ground support equipment, and hangar, facilities, and infrastructure required to support the program. The estimated total case value is $593 million . The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale on August 2, 2017.

Sierra Nevada Corp., Centennial, Colorado, has been awarded a $329,076,750 undefinitized contract action (UCA) for 12 A-29 aircraft for the Nigerian Air Force. The total not-to-exceed amount of the UCA is approved at $344,727,439 to include a Forward Looking Infrared System for six of the aircraft. This piece is projected to be funded soon after UCA award. In addition to the 12 aircraft, this contract provides for ground training devices, mission planning systems, mission debrief systems, spares, ground support equipment, alternate mission equipment, contiguous U.S. interim contractor support, outside of continental U.S. (OCONUS) contractor logistic support, and five field service representatives for OCONUS support for three years. Work will be performed in Jacksonville, Florida, and is expected to be completed May 2024 . Foreign military sales funds in the amount of $220,167,735 are being obligated at the time of award. Air Force Life Cycle Management Center, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio, is the contracting activity (FA8637-19-C-6009).

kabe1:


What is the wisdom of telling lies?

komekn:


The purpose of this discourse I presume is to inform and educate.

Its not to get into inconsequential arguments over nothing and to make unguarded derogatory comments. To allege that some one is telling lies , but with no basis WHY Please try and be a gentleman and do not lower standards of etiquette here please.

You have lost sight of the core question, which is simply, is this the best use of our very scarce resources.

The fact remains that before those 12 turbo prop planes get here in 2-4 years it will cost us total $600.

You are essentially saying that Bidexiii, S400, Myself and a few others are telling lies, our position is substantiated with multiple US government departments and agencies the Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA), being one of them.

You are not covering yourself in glory

komekn:


The purpose of this discourse I presume is to inform and educate.

Its not to get into inconsequential arguments over nothing and to make unguarded derogatory comments. To allege that some one is telling lies , but with no basis WHY Please try and be a gentleman and do not lower standards of etiquette here please.

You have lost sight of the core question, which is simply, is this the best use of our very scarce resources.

The fact remains that before those 12 turbo prop planes get here in 2-4 years it will cost us total $600.

You are essentially saying that Bidexiii, S400, Myself and a few others are telling lies, our position is substantiated with multiple US government departments and agencies the Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA), being one of them.

You are not covering yourself in glory

S400:
for the same 600 millions , you can get 48 mi 35 M or more , perfect for operations against boko haram .

nigeria bought 12 for 150 millions

komekn:






The fact remains that before those 12 turbo prop planes get here in 2-4 years it will cost us total $600.

Odunayaw:
While boys are biting dust in NE, this man is creating new "special forces" battalions and doing push ups!

kabe1:


The Super Tucanos cost 329 million dollars.

Equipment and training make up the balance.


Nigeria to protest U.S. conditions on $494 million purchase of fighter planes

Nigeria will protest to the United States over conditions imposed on its planned $494 million purchase of 12 A-29 Super Tucano fighter planes, Defence Minister Mansur Dan Ali said on Thursday.

Those conditions include the 2020 transfer date for the aircraft and that Nigerian technicians will not be trained by U.S. staff, be part of maintenance crews, nor can they study the production of the planes, he told reporters at a briefing in Abuja.

.........

blacKDalia:



Walahi I hate to see the push ups. It's becoming embarrassing. Every time you see soldiers in push up mode, just know that somewhere close is the COAS.

S400:


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with 494 millions $ , and the lack of air support of nigerian operations in the north . 37 mi 35 M would be better and delivred earlier .

and what do you think of the Su 25 ? the last upgrades are very good and perfect for antiguerilla wars

Odunayaw:
Are we comparing Helos to COIN planes now?
Although I find no fault in the Tucano procurement, I wish we stock up on Transport helos

S400:


i have shared the link of us department of defense about the 329 millions Undefinitized Contract Actions (UCA ) ( contract actions for which the contract terms, specifications, or price are not agreed upon before performance commences ) .

lets say 344 millions . but dont forget the weaponary , ammunitions and other stuff . still 494 millions is too expensive for only 12 tucano's specially with 2024 delivery .

with 494 millions $ , and the lack of air support of nigerian operations in the north . 37 mi 35 M would be better and delivred earlier .

and what do you think of the Su 25 ? the last upgrades are very good and perfect for antiguerilla wars

Odunayaw:
After visiting a "training site" for SF all we get to see is bodies with their palms on the floor. Painful to my eyes.

blacKDalia:
We just don't seem to get things right. I ve read the recent posts on the super tucano with interest. My major concern is the delivery date: 2020 or 2024. For those people quoting 2024, is the delivery date starting 2024 or ending that same year? If starting 2024 it just shows that the policy planners and decision makers in the military are masturbat-ng over the issues in the North East or effing Nigeria doggy style. It's very annoying and stinks to high heavens that there's no regard for the life of the ordinary soldier in the North East. One day na one day.

kabe1:


First A-29 Super Tucano delivery to Nigeria pushed back to May 2021


The first delivery in the foreign military sale of 12 A-29 Super Tucano aircraft to Nigeria is not expected until May 2021, one year later than initially scheduled. An Air Force official attributed the delay to contract negotiations that were finalized last December, months after the original deal was signed and implemented in Jan. 2018. "The A-29 production efforts were not able to start until the contract negotiations were completed. The delayed start shifted production line schedules from the fourth...


https://insidedefense.com/daily-news/first-29-super-tucano-delivery-nigeria-pushed-back-may-2021

Toju200:
All those saying you'll prefer this to that you're very right and I get your points
but there's something y'all ain't getting right..
If you've read the NAF strategic plan for modernization (Which is no longer available for download and no longer on the net) y'all will know where NAF is heading..
The Super tucano will serve it's purpose
More gunships will come
More fighter jets will come it ain't ending at 3jf17
What this current CAS is doing he's trying to get all these done with limited resources that's all

nemesis8u:
My 2 kobos

Military or military procurement is not the end solution for all these wahala

They might be the means but they r definately not the end to the problem. U keep killing them , they will still keep coming.

As I have been saying all these time correct diagnostic of a problem is the key to the cure.

What Chanakya said thousands of years ago still holds relevance today especially in the case of insurgency / terrorism based on ideology / religion.

" victory on the battlefield is not the final remedy, but it is the acceptance of the final outcome by the defeated side "