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Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by OneDollarSalary(m): 7:59pm On Apr 03, 2020 |
Nowenuse:Stop arguing with that guy who have an identity crisis.. Let him continue to be politically correct while Muslims run over him and his people. |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by Tetrahedron(m): 8:01pm On Apr 03, 2020 |
The church is marching on, the gates of hell cannot prevail! |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by senatordave1(m): 8:10pm On Apr 03, 2020 |
eagleu:Katsina is actually more populated than delta |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by eagleu: 8:18pm On Apr 03, 2020 |
Moderator, front page, please. |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by senatordave1(m): 8:24pm On Apr 03, 2020 |
Nowenuse:You dont understand me.i said if you cannot be inflating the number of christians in northern kaduna while downplaying the number of Muslims from northern kaduna who are in southern kaduna. I know hausas are settlers in niger but as it stands they have been indigenized.am aware that nonhausas have ruled kano and that ex governor of bauchi is ebira.i am a also aware that southern kebbi is christian dominated but there's also a large presence of Muslim indigenes there. 1 Like |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by 9jakool: 8:24pm On Apr 03, 2020 |
kolaaderin: I don't usually comment too much on religion posts, but I'm going to address some stuff. Offa is not walkable distance to Ikirun as the two towns while close are separated at least by 30 mins by road. It seems like you don't have a great knowledge on the places you claim to know. Albeit his statistics about Ilorin being 50/50 is wrong, you are also wrong about Offa and Ikirun. If that was the case, it would put both towns on par with Ilorin. For such a repuation that Ilorin gets, it has a significant christian population. I suspect the reason why it gets that reputation is due to a larger presence of ultraconservative muslims compared to the SW. People also forget it's a university city home to Unilorin, one of the largest in Nigeria and not discounting its state capital status. |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by Nowenuse: 8:26pm On Apr 03, 2020 |
Subduer: You are very correct. We have very shameless and fooolish leaders and elders. You see, I have tried to understand the thinking faculty of the way the brains of our predecessors worked. Our fathers & grandfathers all their lives grew up believing that Arewa was their one and only identity and Hausa fulanis are their closest, infact they were one with Hausa fulanis. In the televisions they watched, in the radios they listened to, on the papers they read, in the schools they attended, this was what they were taught, told and indoctrinated all their lives. In such a case, it is very very difficult and almost impossible for them to make a U-turn, to think of leaving that identity for something else. And to worsen matters, the late Sardauna worked effortlessly towards Arewa unity. He actually tried if I am to be honest. The Sardauna did not openly discriminate against northern Christians or minorities. If the Sardauna was giving 120 scholarships then, 20 will go to Benue-Plateau area, 20 to Gongola area, 20 to Borno area, 20 to Kogi-Kwara area, 20 to Bauchi area and 20 to Hausa land proper. Minorities somehow even benefited more and were more influential than Hausa fulanis under the Sardauna. And so for this reason, many of our elders are products of Sardauna's legacy. Till date, they still feel that they owe him an allegiance. It is a very complicated issue. Can you see how anti-Arewa I am? If you meet my father & grandfather and you hear them talk about Arewa, you will be so shocked to know that I am a product of the loins of these men. This is what the mentality of People like my father and grandfather looks like. They know that we are having terrible problems with the Core-northerners today, it pains them, but they feel these are issues that could be resolved. They feel that 'brothers' always fight to reconcile. I just don't know how I will put their mentality into writing for you to understand. But I hope you get my point. We of the present generation only grew up to meet one conflict upon the other with Hausa fulanis, manipulations, oppression e.t.c. That is why the mentality is not the same. We feel no attachment or indebtedness to Arewa, the caliphate, Sardauna or whoever. 10 Likes |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by OneDollarSalary(m): 8:27pm On Apr 03, 2020 |
The main reason why the Muslims are more in population is the number of wives they marry. Marry more than 1 wife and give birth like rabbits to have more people to propagate Islam and dominate. Marry at early age. Take this example. A Christian and Muslim parents gave birth to a female child. The children both finish primary school and proceed to secondary. At jss3 they started showing signs of maturity. The Muslim parent says their daughter is due for marriage. If she's lucky, they allow her to round up and boom, off she goes. The Christan parent on the other hand are planning on sending their daughter to further her education. While in school, her childhood friend have given birth. Before she rounds up, her childhood friend have given birth to 2 children. Before she finally settled down, her friend has given birth to 3. 1 Like |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by Nowenuse: 8:28pm On Apr 03, 2020 |
OneDollarSalary: Thank you very much. I don't think I will waste my time arguing with people like Senatordave1. People with dual identities are as unstable as the wind goes. 5 Likes |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by senatordave1(m): 8:30pm On Apr 03, 2020 |
Nowenuse:While those areas may be christian dominated,churches or religious houses is not a good parameter or determinant to know the religious percentage of an area.they will always be more churches in an area than mosques,you know this.we chtistians will always build as many churches as possible but this doesn't mean it is christian dominated.my village has close to 10 churches but most are pagans |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by OneDollarSalary(m): 8:31pm On Apr 03, 2020 |
senatordave1:Of course, this is Nigeria where a desert is more populated than a coastal region. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by senatordave1(m): 8:35pm On Apr 03, 2020 |
Nowenuse:I rate you very highly,i refrained from insulting you.this is very low.many people are seeing this and your reputation will plummet...better retrace your steps.make your own opinion about a person and do not be influenced unwisely by others.several people have called you names in the past,i ignored them.there's nothing bad in losing an argument.... 1 Like |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by Nowenuse: 8:42pm On Apr 03, 2020 |
ZKOSOSO: Thank you very much. Karu LGA currently has over 1 million people and 90% of the people in Karu are christians. The influence of the Christian population of Karu has already started affecting Keffi to the extent that Keffi is now something like a 50-50. In the past, Keffi had a clear muslim majority, being an old town that Hausa fulanis settled. Karu Urban is now 4 times the size of Lafia (the state capital) and Karu LGA alone has like 25% of Nasarawa state's population. So, how come a state like Nasarawa is still having a muslim governor? Majority of Christians in Karu urban are not indingenes of Nasarawa state, hence most of them do not vote as they feel elections are not their business. Christians have a stronger voter apathy than Muslims (especially in a place where they feel they are settlers and have no stakes in the govt). But that is not the case with Hausa fulanis. All of these are some of the reasons why I will fight with the last drop of my blood for a country like Nigeria to be divided and let the chaff be separated from the grains. People like Hausa fulanis who take elections more serious than education and their well-being have absolutely no business in sharing the same country with Christians. If we Christians continue to agree with one Nigeria, we are only digging our graves. Separation is our best option. 11 Likes |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by Nowenuse: 8:47pm On Apr 03, 2020 |
senatordave1: As it stands, Nasarawa state is something like 70-75% Christians, because of Karu urban. Karu Urban has an estimated 2 million people currently and 90% of Karu urban are Christians. That 55- 60% Christian is what Nasarawa normally is without Karu urban. Akwanga was more developed than Lafia in the old Plateau state. I measured Akwanga & Lafia recently and Lafia is just about twice the size of Akwanga now. You can imagine Lafia being the state capital for 24 years now and it is still less than 50km². That should tell u what it was like before it was made capital. Although, Lafia will never grow anymore because of Karu. 8 Likes |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by OneDollarSalary(m): 8:51pm On Apr 03, 2020 |
Nowenuse:Senatordave1 is happy with the status quo. When election comes, you see them pack their 3 to 4 wives and their children who are mostly uneducated and under age to vote. 4 Likes |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by Nowenuse: 8:58pm On Apr 03, 2020 |
Naajjii: You are just telling Senatordave1 rubbish. Yoruba land & Edo state should have the highest number of pagans in Nigeria because almost every Christian or Muslim there goes to Babalawo or has a shrine at the back of their houses. And FYI, Eggons are 75% Christians. So I don't understand how you say the difference between Eggon Christians and muslims is small. Among all parts of Eggon land, only in Lafia east are Eggon muslims a majority. Even the Lafia east is like a 50-50. Nasarawa Eggon LGA is like 90% Christian. Eggons in Kokona, Akwanga, Obi, Doma and almost everywhere else are overwhelmingly christians. Yes, a huge percentage of Eggons, especially Eggon Christians have not left their traditional religions. However, they mix both together. You cannot call such people pagans cos they still go to church. They are just like the Jukuns of Taraba & Taroks of Plateau. In the whole of the Northern christian region, only these 3 ethnic groups still hold on to their traditional religions very fiercely and that is why they are among the deadliest ethnic groups in the middlebelt for fulanis. Almost all others have largely abandoned their traditional religions for Christianity or Islam. You can hardly find a northern Christian who is a full blown traditionalist, be it Eggon, Tarok or Jukun. They still attend church services. Just that when they are in the church and the masquerades come out, the churches become empty This is not like Yorubaland, Edo or even Delta state where u have full blown traditionalists who have never stepped their foot into a church or mosque since they were born. 8 Likes |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by OneDollarSalary(m): 8:59pm On Apr 03, 2020 |
See that rep member from Kano who came to the house to boost of his four or something wives and 24 children. Imagine. Not only him, they are many. Christians even tried with their population despite their 1 wife policy. If only senatordave1 knows what Islam teach about population and domination. This is what the northern Muslims are doing. Give birth for the sake of Islam. 1 Like |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by Nowenuse: 9:02pm On Apr 03, 2020 |
Naajjii: Most of these Igala pagans are exposed to Christianity. Check out their children, you will see that all their children go to church. Igalas are heavily converting to Christianity and this is what everyone knows. Someone who is a traditionalist and still goes to church, what do you call that person? 7 Likes |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by Nowenuse: 9:07pm On Apr 03, 2020 |
Naajjii: Yes and very soon, this Nigeria will divide and everyone will answer his father's name. Abuja's development is to the advantage of Middlebelt people and not Hausa fulanis. Do you in your wildest dreams think that Hausa fulanis can claim Abuja if this country divides? Have you forgotten what Gbagyi boys did to Hausa fulanis in Bwari town last year? Unless you are an Ebira, Nupe or Igala, then you are safe, otherwise I pity you if you are from FCT, Nasarawa e.t.c. When this country divides, we will flush your likes out and send you to go and join Hausa fulanis in the core north. 10 Likes |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by OneDollarSalary(m): 9:08pm On Apr 03, 2020 |
Nowenuse:The Igalas don't joke with fulanis too. Take these imported religion too serious especially Islam and watch the fulanis over run your land. 1 Like |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by OneDollarSalary(m): 9:13pm On Apr 03, 2020 |
Nowenuse:I'm an Igala and what you said is true. The only thing still helping Islam is the "more than 1 wife and early marriage". Give birth for the sake of Islam to dominate the world. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by eagleu: 9:15pm On Apr 03, 2020 |
Nowenuse: Well educated and informed! Sarduana's legacy or trick holding the north together while the west lost midwest, and the east lost Rivers/Cross rivers is noted. His atrocities towards the middle belt minorities has also been swept under the carpet by his followers. Col. Anuforo lost his life disobeying Sarduana's orders to mowed down protesting Tiv/Idoma people, because they were mostly Christians. How did Tiv/Idoma repay Igbos during and after the war? 7 Likes |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by eagleu: 9:18pm On Apr 03, 2020 |
OneDollarSalary: While polygamy is accepted in Islam, it is not the main reason for high population count among muslims. Fraud is the main reason. When a scientific and non political census is carried out in , Nigeria, you will be surprised. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by Nowenuse: 9:25pm On Apr 03, 2020 |
9jakool: Thank you for your contribution. You know I always admired your knowledge on demography and anthropology Sorry if I am asking u a question against your ethics, but please in your own opinion, I want you to estimate the religious percentage of Ilorin, Kwara south and Kwara state as a whole. I have been to many towns and parts of Kwara. And from my estimates, Kwara state is like 60% Muslim and 40% Christian, while Kwara south is like 60% Christian to me. I said Ilorin is either 50-50 or at least 60% muslim ..... Do you believe muslims are more than 60% in Ilorin? I moved round Ilorin and I could see that the old city center was overwhelmingly muslim, however the Eastern half of the city (where you have Unilorin) had all it's suburbs either Christian dominated or a sort of 50-50. Same with the Southwestern half of the city (i.e the suburbs south of the old city). Google maps also confirmed my observation! So, I'd like to get your opinion. For Offa, I agree that Offa is muslim majority, but I think it is like 60%. You said Kolaaderin was not saying the truth about Offa, so what then is it in your opinion? Offa is an Ibolo town and from my observation, majority of Ibolo people are muslims, but it is like a 60-40, while Igbomina people are the exact opposite of Ibolo people in my opinion, they are like 60% Christian and 40% muslim from my observation. While the Ekiti speaking people in Kwara south are almost entirely Christian, like 90%. I would like to see your opinion on the religious breakdown of Kwara based on towns, ethnic & subethnic groups & senatorial district. Thanks. 8 Likes |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by OneDollarSalary(m): 9:35pm On Apr 03, 2020 |
The Igalas by religion. Christian dominated LG. Olamaboro 60 percent Christians, 20 percent traditionalist. Omala 70 percent Christians, 10 traditionalist. Igalamela 50 percent Christians, 10 percent traditionalist. Idah 45 percent Christians, 10 traditionalist. Ofu, 55 percent Christians Ibaji, 89 percent Christians, 10 percent traditionalist. Ankpa 50 percent Christians Dekina, 50 percent Christians 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by ZKOSOSO(m): 11:16pm On Apr 03, 2020 |
Nowenuse:Finally met my alter-ego....! My ideological and intellectual mate ..! You are doing a great job here sir.....! Well done Brother. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by Naajjii: 11:55pm On Apr 03, 2020 |
OneDollarSalary:Yet only your muslim bothers can rule Kogi |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by Naajjii: 12:03am On Apr 04, 2020 |
Nowenuse:Ha ha look at this nyamiri why do you have exception of EBIRA, Nupe and Igala, dont you know that majority of these tribes are muslims which you have been attacking. You people are just dreaming, it is the muslims in your so called middlebelt that will finish you if you try any shit, hausa fulani will be on standby. Why are you ashamed of your Identity, why dont you come out fully as an Igbo man, why hidding under middlebelt. Most people here dont know you but i know you very well. 1 Like |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by naijaking1: 2:42am On Apr 04, 2020 |
senatordave1: Just like Kano is more populated than Lagos? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by TooMuchStuff: 5:48am On Apr 04, 2020 |
Naajjii: It's a shame that all you ever know is killing and force of coercion as against democratic norms as practice worldwide. The bolded above brings out the Fulani-beast of violence in you. What makes you think the Igbos are your only enemies in Nigeria? The OP is middlebelt for real 1 Like |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by dokiOloye(m): 6:29am On Apr 04, 2020 |
Nowenuse:lolz. I shudder at the way Gowon still talks. Even peeps like IBB,Abdulsalam who are muslim and not even much on d receiving end know things aren't right and would rather keep quiet but Gowon still speaks as if he is in support of his oppressors 1 Like |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by dokiOloye(m): 6:31am On Apr 04, 2020 |
Naajjii:Lolz. Everybody who speaks against evil is automatically Igbo to you. |
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