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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 5:42pm On Apr 04, 2020
garetz:
Joe Biden's campaign said Friday the former vice president supports President Donald Trump's January 31 decision to ban foreign nationals who had been in China within the previous 14 days from entering the United States.

"Joe Biden supports travel bans that are guided by medical experts, advocated by public health officials, and backed by a full strategy," Kate Bedingfeld, Biden's deputy campaign manager, told CNN. "Science supported this ban, therefore he did too."

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/04/03/politics/joe-biden-trump-china-coronavirus/index.html

cc: ornicus, you've been bad mouthing the travel ban all day. Even Joe Biden thinks you're wrong and Trump did the right thing grin

Guy. Will you stop highlighting your empty stupidity. Trumps knee jerk travel ban does not erase his storm of denials. I hope you don't take the trump approach in your actual life. South Korea and the US had their first cases on the very same day.

The US had China, the UK, Italy and Iran to look to as guides for what could happen. But your favorite clown in office issues a meaningless travel ban, then ran off to mara lago

Lets use a quite your favorite idiot used in 2015. 'it's on you'

Now Watch the Democrat and liberal media hoax kill 200,000 Americans while trump rakes up likes on twitter and kushner tells the US the federal stockpile is the federal stockpile.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 6:01pm On Apr 04, 2020
ornicus:


Guy. Will you stop highlighting your empty stupidity. Trumps knee jerk travel ban does not erase his storm of denials. I hope you don't take the trump approach in your actual life. South Korea and the US had their first cases on the very same day.

The US had China, the UK, Italy and Iran to look to as guides for what could happen. But your favorite clown in office issues a meaningless travel ban, then ran off to mara lago

Lets use a quite your favorite idiot used in 2015. 'it's on you'

Now Watch the Democrat and liberal media hoax kill 200,000 Americans while trump rakes up likes on twitter and kushner tells the US the federal stockpile is the federal stockpile.

You're the one who is stupid not me. Almost every country in the world has put a travel ban in place to combat the coronavirus. Even your presidential candidate now supports it but you think you are wiser than the whole world leaders? That is stupidity of the highest order.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:01pm On Apr 04, 2020

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 6:10pm On Apr 04, 2020
garetz:

You're the one who is stupid not me. Almost every country in the world has put a travel ban in place to combat the coronavirus. Even your presidential candidate now supports it but you think you are wiser than the whole world leaders? That is stupidity of the highest order.

The results speak for themselves. Trump the leader of the msot powerful nation in the history of the world could not handle the coronavirus better than taiwan or Singapore or China or even Mexico. So much winning. tongue

What do you expect from a fool who appoints his never do well son in law tongue

You can continue to trumpet your empty i take no responsibility excuses as Americans die.

Trump thought being president was just lazing around and claiming others victories

Better start making up your excuses for jobs and the economy next. Or you can open everywhere by Easter tongue

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 6:15pm On Apr 04, 2020
budaatum:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2020/04/04/coronavirus-government-dysfunction/?arc404=true

Guy, you know trumpanzees are cultist fanatics na. They have been programmed by a steady diet of faux news, and are incapable of logical thought.

I have been sliding quotes from 1984 and animal farm into my comments but those have gone completely over their empty heads

They are taking boxer to the knackers - the casual way some republicans the so called party of life say its OK for the old to die to 'save the economy'

Oceania has always been at war with East Asia. Trump will say one thing, they will jump on it. He will deny it the next minute and they will claim he never said it.

For them ignorance is strength.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 6:40pm On Apr 04, 2020
ornicus:


Guy, you know trumpanzees are cultist fanatics na. They have been programmed by a steady diet of faux news, and are incapable of logical thought.

I have been sliding quotes from 1984 and animal farm into my comments but those have gone completely over their empty heads

They are taking boxer to the knackers - the casual way some republicans the so called party of life say its OK for the old to die to 'save the economy'

Oceania has always been at war with East Asia. Trump will say one thing, they will jump on it. He will deny it the next minute and they will claim he never said it.

For them ignorance is strength.
Imagine touting a travel ban as the biggest achievement by Trump in the coronavirus war. They talk like a simple ban on flights from China and much later on Europe stopped the virus from decimating the US. They expect very little from Trump that even if he farts, that would be a major achievement.

The Republicans are more interested in the stock market than US lives. When they were warned about the virus early january, the were more concerned about their stocks than the lives of Americans.

That's the nature of Trump and his worshippers. He says one thing today and his supporters will defend the position with their lives, he then says the exact opposite the very next day and they would deny with with their mother's lives that he never said so in the first place, even if you show them video evidence. The craziest one to me was when during his meeting with Putin in Helsinki, he said " I don't see any reason why it would be" (Russia that interfered with the US elections. The very next day he said what he said was that "I don't see any reason why it would'nt be" and his goons are ready to defend him both ways, even though the speech is on YouTube.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:49pm On Apr 04, 2020
ornicus:


Guy, you know trumpanzees are cultist fanatics na. They have been programmed by a steady diet of faux news, and are incapable of logical thought.

I have been sliding quotes from 1984 and animal farm into my comments but those have gone completely over their empty heads

They are taking boxer to the knackers - the casual way some republicans the so called party of life say its OK for the old to die to 'save the economy'

Oceania has always been at war with East Asia. Trump will say one thing, they will jump on it. He will deny it the next minute and they will claim he never said it.

For them ignorance is strength.
Sparknoted Fountainheads don't read 1984.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Kopfschmerzens: 7:30pm On Apr 04, 2020
These Trump cultist reminds me of David Koresh and Jim Jones of the famous Jones town massacre.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 8:21pm On Apr 04, 2020
BREAKING: New York "Accidentally" Delivered Coronavirus patients to the USNS Comfort... Which was supposed to only be for NON Coronavirus Patients..

The hits just keep on rolling with the morons in charge of New York..

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8187879/Multiple-coronavirus-patients-mistakenly-transferred-New-York-hospital-ship.html

Tomorrow some liberal morons will start blaming Trump when the death rate in New York keep skyrocketing.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 9:35pm On Apr 04, 2020
garetz:
BREAKING: New York "Accidentally" Delivered Coronavirus patients to the USNS Comfort... Which was supposed to only be for NON Coronavirus Patients..

The hits just keep on rolling with the morons in charge of New York..
I know that with your selective amnesia you blind, deaf and dumb to the admission on live TV by a Republican Governor (governor Kemp) that he only learnt yesterday that asymptomatic patients can speading the virus. Is incompetence a Republican targeted disease?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 9:55pm On Apr 04, 2020
wirinet:

I know that with your selective amnesia you blind, deaf and dumb to the admission on live TV by a Republican Governor (governor Kemp) that he only learnt yesterday that asymptomatic patients can speading the virus. Is incompetence a Republican targeted disease?
How can you accuse the governor of Georgia of incompetence when he has managed the crises in his state very efficiently as a result of which they have recorded 183 deaths compared to the moronic liberal in New York who has presided over the deaths of over 3,500 people as at the last count. It's really the height of absurdity for any liberal to point hands at any Republican governor right now because your own governors' incompetence is the reason why the US death rate is increasing by the day. Go check out the list of coronavirus deaths by states in the US and the top 6 states with the highest death rates are all governed by a Democrat. The highest death rate in a republican controlled state is Georgia with 183 deaths. Don't even try to get into that comparison. When it comes to this coronavirus crises, Democrat governors have been the poster boys of incompetence across the US.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 10:02pm On Apr 04, 2020
The irony of liberals describing Governor Cuomo of New York as being presidential in the middle of his disastrous handling of the coronavirus crises is melting irony detectors. The same people who cry from morning till night blaming Trump for everything about the virus are praising the governor who is presiding over the highest numbers of infections and deaths in the US. Hypocrites of the highest order.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 10:18pm On Apr 04, 2020
Trump Org Reportedly Seeking Debt Help From Deutsche As Bank Is Probed By DOJ

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/deutsche-bank-trump-debt-help-coronavirus-conflict-of-interest_n_5e87ee89c5b6cc1e47758499?ri18n=true

In another tangled ethics situation for Donald Trump, the president’s Trump Organization is reportedly asking to postpone its loan payments to Deutsche Bank — which is being investigated by the Department of Justice to determine if it complied with anti-money laundering regulations.

The situation highlights the unique power of Trump as president to maneuver a deal for his business hurt by the COVID-19 crisis, particularly with a bank under investigation by his own administration.

Trump did not divest from his businesses when he moved into the White House as other presidents have done to avoid conflicts of interest. The current scenario is the “absolute nightmare that someone (ahem) warned about” when Trump took office, tweeted Walter Shaub, the former head of the U.S. Office of Government Ethics under both Barack Obama and Trump.

The Trump Organization has been hit hard amid the coronavirus pandemic as consumers slash their stays in hotels and trips to golf resorts. The company has laid off or furloughed some 1,500 employees in several hotels, The Washington Post reported. As of Friday, 17 of the Trump Organization’s hotels and clubs were closed, according to the Post. The shuttered operations amounted to some $650,000 a day in lost revenue, the newspaper reported.

Loans from Deutsche Bank, the Trump Organization’s biggest creditor, have reportedly been used for Trump’s Chicago Tower, the Trump National Doral Miami golf resort — which is now shuttered — and his Washington, D.C., hotel, which has closed its bar and restaurant, The New York Times reported. The loans are backed by a personal guarantee from Trump himself, according to the Times. Deutsche Bank has loaned the Trump Organization some $2 billion since 1998, and there are currently an estimated $350 million in loans outstanding, the newspaper reported.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 11:22pm On Apr 04, 2020
Democrats slam Trump’s ‘dead of night’ decision to fire intelligence community IG

Democrats on Friday reacted furiously to President Trump’s decision to fire the intelligence community inspector general who informed Congress about the Ukraine whistleblower complaint.

"Trump’s dead of night decision to fire ICIG Michael Atkinson is another blatant attempt to gut the independence of the Intelligence Community and retaliate against those who dare to expose presidential wrongdoing," said Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., who chairs the House Intelligence Committee.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrats-trump-intelligence-community-ig

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/trump-considering-a-billionaire-investor-for-office-of-the-director-of-national-intelligence-report/

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 11:37pm On Apr 04, 2020
Trump Organization laid off employees as pandemic hits business

The Trump Organization has laid off or furloughed about 1,500 employees at hotels in the United States and Canada as the coronavirus pandemic inflicts further pain on the president’s private business.

With most of President Trump’s hotels and clubs closed amid stay-at-home orders around the world, the Trump Organization has responded by slashing costs, much like other companies in the hospitality and tourism industries. The Trump Organization has laid off or furloughed employees at hotels in New York, the District of Columbia, Miami, Chicago, Las Vegas, Vancouver and Honolulu, according to public filings and people familiar with the properties, including union officials.

Seventeen of Trump’s clubs and hotels have closed. The remainder of Trump properties are operating at a fraction of their normal capacity: hotels running with restaurants closed, golf clubs operating with clubhouses shut down, and golfers warned not to share carts or touch the flagsticks.

All told, the closed properties generated an average of $650,000 in revenue for Trump per day, according to Trump’s past financial disclosures.

That economic strain has pushed Trump Organization officials to inquire about possible relief, at least temporarily, from the company’s financial obligations at one of its properties.

In Palm Beach County, Fla., the Trump Organization has not paid rent of $54,534.25 that was due April 1 on land it leases from the county government for the Trump International Golf Club West Palm Beach, a county representative said Friday.

“Because payment has not become due, and in light of Governor’s DeSantis’ executive order shutting down businesses throughout the State of Florida as a result of the COVID 19 pandemic, the County advised us to refrain from making payment until they have finalized their policy for the handling of their numerous leases,” Alan Garten, a Trump Organization executive, said in a statement. “As soon as the County finalizes its guidance, we will, of course, fully and timely comply with its directives as well as continue to comply with the requirements of the lease.”

Palm Beach County officials did not respond to a question about Garten’s comment that the company was advised not to make the payment.

The West Palm Beach golf club sits on county land, and the Trump Organization pays $995,000 per year for two leases that pertain to one 18-hole and one nine-hole course, according to county officials. No monthly payment had been received on the 18-hole lease, which is administered by the county airports department, said Nicole Ferris, a county spokeswoman. She did not respond to questions about the second rent payment, of $33,804.88, that also was due April 1.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/trump-organization-has-laid-off-about-1500-employees-as-pandemic-hits-business/ar-BB129anb?ocid=st

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by CutieKing: 7:03am On Apr 05, 2020
So much blind followers here but what I find amazing is the way trump supporters see him and talk about him as the only best thing that ever happened to mankind.they see him as the omnipresent,omnipotent and omniscient God that would not only serve the maximum 8years as president but would remain the president of the US till the world cease to exit.

And funny enough,majority of these asslickers are based in Nigeria with the fox news and trump twitter handle as their only source of information.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Hyperchi(m): 8:18am On Apr 05, 2020
CutieKing:
So much blind followers here but what I find amazing is the way trump supporters see him and talk about him as the only best thing that ever happened to mankind.they see him as the omnipresent,omnipotent and omniscient God that would not only serve the maximum 8years as president but would remain the president of the US till the world cease to exit.

And funny enough,majority of these asslickers are based in Nigeria with the fox news and trump twitter handle as their only source of information.

Have u liberal for one day acknowledge ur fault, u ppl where busy fighting a leader when report of a crisis was on, now he is fighting the crisis, it will not suprise me to see u guys still fighting him during the crisis.
Was this how they fought Obama during Spanish flu

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 8:24am On Apr 05, 2020
So because of politics some governors will sacrifice lives?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 9:00am On Apr 05, 2020
Fredo's brother who goes by the name Cuomo the governor of New York was crying daily on TV about Trump not helping .Saying he needed 30k ventilators . Thats 30k beds too.

Trump sent two 1000 bed hospital ships staffed by 800-1000 personnel to York and Calif.
The ships were meant to treat non Wuhan virus patients only so that hospital resources could better take care of the corona patients.
Rachel Maddow of MSNBC lied about the ships not making it to Calif and York in a matter of months. The ships docked within a few days. Maddow the lesbian never apologised.

Both ships have treated only 19 patients so far.Talk about waste of resources. Talk about media lying about how New York needs extra 30k beds and so far the hospital ship has treated only 10 non Wuhan (deliberate referring it Wuhan) virus cases.

Yesterday the New York hospital authorities sent 3 patients to the ship with corona knowing fully well that it was only meant for non Wuhan virus patients. Sounds sabotage to me. They claimed it was a mistake. Main stream media not reporting this.

Dems are nothing short of evil. Extremely evil devious pathetic sons of bittches.

To add salt to injury the Dems led by pencil neck Schiff ,Pelosi and Schumer are trying to investigate the crisis and specifically Trump response to the Wuhan virus crisis. Dont forget that as soon as Trump banned flights from China these scumbags called him xenophobic and racist to boot.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 9:33am On Apr 05, 2020
The foolish Democrat governor of Wisconsin has decided to go ahead with the state's presidential primaries on Tuesday. What can go wrong? Keep an eye on the coronavirus infections and deaths rates in Wisconsin. I don't want to hear any stupid liberal mentioning Trump's name if the numbers start spiking after Tuesday.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 9:39am On Apr 05, 2020
A long read from americanthinker. com


A reasonable observer would expect a minimum level of professionalism from New York City health commissioner, Dr. Oxiris Barbot. One wouldn't expect that someone charged with protecting New York City's public health would instead endanger the well-being of New Yorkers by ignoring the severe health ramifications and the real danger of the coronavirus. However, while most of the Democratic leadership of New York City was busy criticizing President Trump for deciding to impose travel restrictions on those entering the United States and dismissing the incoming threat of the coronavirus in February, this health commissioner was quoted stating the following on numerous TV interviews: "The risk to New Yorkers from coronavirus is low, and ... our preparedness as a city is very high." Barbot said this at a press conference supporting the Chinatown Lunar New Year Parade and Festival. "There is no reason not to take the subway, not to take a bus, not to go out to your favorite restaurant and certainly not to miss the parade next Sunday [Feb. 9]." The unprofessional behavior of New York City's health commissioner, a Democratic Party appointee, has been labeled by many health officials as possibly criminally negligent. Under different circumstances, she should have been forced to excuse herself and resign immediately pending further legal action. Over the past few weeks, as we have witnessed the snowball effect of the rate of infection of the coronavirus, New York City officials in a Democratic administration should be held accountable for increasing the "risk" for the residents of New York City. They not only egregiously dismissed the coronavirus outbreak and pandemic in its earlier stages, but actually encouraged unrestricted public behavior as if there were no danger of being infected, as if they knew what they were talking about. The Democrats' nonchalant policy has been deadly for New Yorkers. Had this incredible and negligent behavior by the health commissioner been an isolated incident, the risk might have been contained. Unfortunately, Mayor Bill de Blasio also failed to shield the residents of New York City, partly through inaction but largely through indifference. As the coronavirus emerged from China, invaded Europe, and began to spread throughout the world, the Trump administration was formulating national policies to deal with the high mortality rate expected from COVID-19, understanding that the situation was one of life or death. Yet at the same time, Mayor de Blasio was busy criticizing President Trump for imposing restrictions in the United States in an attempt to prevent the import of the coronavirus through the airports and borders. Mayor de Blasio's indifference to the coronavirus threat probably contributed more to New York City becoming a center of infection in the United States than the actions of his criminally negligent health commissioner. New York governor Andrew Cuomo told the media at one of his many and highly effective coronavirus response press conferences that he believed that New York City schools should be closed. Mayor Bill de Blasio had consistently refused until then to shut down schools despite fellow Democrats in the tri-state area demanding that he do so. De Blasio's refusal to cancel school a week and more after most other districts in the tri-state had done so contributed significantly to the acceleration of the outbreak of the coronavirus in New York City. An additional de Blasio decision that contributed to the pace of the outbreak had to do with instituting a significant reduction schedule in public transportation, primarily with the New York City subway system forcing unusual crowding among subway-riders who were largely unprotected. One would expect that at the same time the mayor instituted a significant reduction in the subway schedule, he would authorize the cancelation of alternate side parking or cancel metered parking, encouraging those still working outside their homes to use private cars so as to limit exposure to the potential danger of being infected on public transportation. Instead, his administration encouraged use of public transportation and continued to disincentivize the use of private cars. Alternate side parking was suspended only a few days ago, and metered parking restrictions are still in effect as of this writing. Mayor de Blasio's irresponsible and reckless delays probably cost many deaths that otherwise could have been avoided. The number of infected, hospitalized, and dead is rising, meaning that the worst is yet to come for New York City residents. So far, there are 36,221 cases of coronavirus infection in New York City, including 790 deaths (as of March 29). In recent days, with social distancing and forced stay-at-home "guidelines" issued by the federal and New York State authorities, New Yorkers should hopefully experience a major reduction in infections and deaths over the coming weeks and months. The Democratic leadership of New York City would be wise to examine their policy decisions over the past month so as to avoid making similar decisions that can adversely affect the good people of the City of New York.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 9:46am On Apr 05, 2020
basilico:
Fredo's brother who goes by the name Cuomo the governor of New York was crying daily on TV about Trump not helping .Saying he needed 30k ventilators . Thats 30k beds too.

Trump sent two 1000 bed hospital ships staffed by 800-1000 personnel to York and Calif.
The ships were meant to treat non Wuhan virus patients only so that hospital resources could better take care of the corona patients.
Rachel Maddow of MSNBC lied about the ships not making it to Calif and York in a matter of months. The ships docked within a few days. Maddow the lesbian never apologised.

Both ships have treated only 19 patients so far.Talk about waste of resources. Talk about media lying about how New York needs extra 30k beds and so far the hospital ship has treated only 10 non Wuhan (deliberate referring it Wuhan) virus cases.

Yesterday the New York hospital authorities sent 3 patients to the ship with corona knowing fully well that it was only meant for non Wuhan virus patients. Sounds sabotage to me. They claimed it was a mistake. Main stream media not reporting this.

Dems are nothing short of evil. Extremely evil devious pathetic sons of bittches.

To add salt to injury the Dems led by pencil neck Schiff ,Pelosi and Schumer are trying to investigate the crisis and specifically Trump response to the Wuhan virus crisis. Dont forget that as soon as Trump banned flights from China these scumbags called him xenophobic and racist to boot.

You're spot on with this, these Democrats are not just incompetent, they are evil people to the core.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by CutieKing: 9:47am On Apr 05, 2020
garetz:
The foolish Democrat governor of Wisconsin has decided to go ahead with the state's presidential primaries on Tuesday. What can go wrong? Keep an eye on the coronavirus infections and deaths rates in Wisconsin. I don't want to hear any stupid liberal mentioning Trump's name if the numbers start spiking after Tuesday.

Some of you asslickers are illiterates.so it's only Democrats that's holding primary on the said date??.why is Republican not postponing theirs?.didn't you read where he sought for a postponement but was denied by the court.
What powers does a governor has to postpone an election when the court had given the go ahead??.or you think it's a Nigeria where the governors act as an emperor.
You people won't stop displaying your stupidity.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 9:52am On Apr 05, 2020
Another long read. How political correctness spread by leftists like Lucasbabe helped kill more Italians than necessary. Some all knowing leftists IMHO should face charges of crimes against humanity.
Typical lefist talian mayor advicing Italians to hug the Chinese so we can can viewed as not racist. 56k dead since then
This article was published on March 20 2020





One of Italy's top virologists said in an
interview with CNN that fears of being
accused of racism may have played a
prominent role in the Italian government's
initial refusal to close the borders to China
during the coronavirus outbreak.
Dr. Giorgio Palù is one of Italy's most
prominent virologist, having served as a
former president of the European and Italian
Society for Virology and currently a professor
of virology and microbiology at the University
of Padova. He believes that the Italian
government put political correctness before
the health of the Italian people, which led to
the "current devastating situation" in the
country.
"There was a proposal to isolate people
coming from the epicenter, coming from
China," Dr. Palù said in his interview with
CNN. "Then it became seen as racist, but they
were people coming from the outbreak."
Dr. Palù believes that this border control
failure led to the devastating situation that
Italy is currently facing, with over 4,825 deaths
and 53,578 infected.
According to Dr. Palù, he believes the Italian
government lagged in its efforts to fight the
coronavirus, saying the government was "lazy
in the beginning... too much politics in Italy."
Italy's first confirmed
coronavirus cases were Chinese
tourists
To better understand Dr. Palù, it is not only
important to understand China's connection to
Italy but also the way the media has covered
the coronavirus crisis.
What has already been established is that
Italy's first two confirmed cases were a
Chinese couple who arrived in Milan's airport
from Wuhan on Jan. 23 for a lunar new year
holiday. The couple traveled across the
country on a tourist bus with 100 other
Chinese tourists before health authorities in
Rome confirmed their diagnosis.
Only a week later, on Jan. 31, did Italy
implement a full travel ban with China, but by
then it was too late.
Italy is also home to 300,000 Chinese
immigrants, the largest population of Chinese
in all of Europe, with the majority located in
Northern Italy, which now serves as the
epicenter of the outbreak.
Dr. Giorgio Palù said that Italy let fear of
racism accusations guide its public health
decisions.
Besides the 300,000 Chinese living in Italy, 5
million Chinese tourists also visit Italy every
year, making Italy the most popular destination
for Chinese tourists in all of Europe.
Given the high volume of Chinese nationals
too and from Italy, many believe, including Dr.
Palù, that restricting China's access to Italy
much earlier would have prevented the spread
of the disease in Europe or at least slowed its
transmission.
The media attack Italians for
'racism' during Italy's
coronavirus crisis
Dr. Palù's claim that Italy may have feared
closing its border to Chinese travelers due to
accusations of racism may have also partly
arisen over the media's overage of the issue.
For example, the Guardian excoriated Italians
who demonstrated concern about coming in
contact with Asians after Italy's first two
recorded coronavirus cases were documented
as Chinese tourists from Wuhan, with the
article mostly discussing "incidents of
xenophobia and calls to avoid Chinese
restaurants and shops".
Other liberal publications, such as the Daily
Beast, claimed "hypochondriac" Italians were
overreacting to their fear of Chinese out of
"racism".
China's own state-owned news networks were
also pushing a narrative in Italy about racism
as well. The organization Associazione Unione
Giovani Italo Cinesi, which is funded by the
Chinese government, produced a number of
videos before the coronavirus took hold in
Italy.
In one video , posted under the hashtags
#ImNotVirus and #ImHuman, features a
Chinese girl runs around Milan with a placard
that reads, "Hug me! I'm not a virus." In
another, a Chinese man in Florence
encourages passersby to hug him while he
wears a face mask. The first videos was
posted on the Youtube channel New China TV,
which is run by the Xinhua News Agency, the
official state-owned press arm of China. The
second was posted by the China Global
Television Network, another state-owned
broadcaster.
Italian residents hug Chinese people to encourage them in coronavirus fight
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Some Italians took up the call from China,
including Florence's mayor, Dario Nardella,
who launched a nationwide campaign to ‘hug
a Chinese person’, which was featured in a
video posted to China's People's Daily , which
is also run by the Chinese government.
Nardella said he was running the campaign to
"stem the hatred".
Now, as the death toll has skyrocketed,
Italians and people around the world are
encouraged to use social distancing to stop
the spread of the virus. Hugging of any type
between strangers, whether they are Chinese
or not, is now out of the question in all of
Italy.
Calls to close Italy's border
were attacked by the media
Other politicians in Italy voiced their concern
early about China, but were attacked for their
position.
The Guardian claimed that Italy's former
interior minister, Matteo Salvini had "seized on
the panic to plug his anti-immigration
message and attack rivals in government."
"Every day dozens of flights arrive in Italy from
China: we need checks, checks and more
checks," Salvini warned.
Former Italian Interior Minister Matteo Salvini
called on checks and quarantines for visitors
from China.
Salvini also said after the crisis took hold in
Italy that “we were accused of racism
because we asked for checks and
quarantines. Talking about isolating those who
came from areas at risk seemed like a dirty
word in January, now according to virologists
it is the only way to limit the problem.”
In another piece attacking the Italian hardline
immigration politician, NBC News wrote that
despite Salvini's demands to close the Italian
border, "the World Health Organization has
warned that trying to restrict border security
probably won't work — and might even hinder
the global fight against the virus and the
COVID-19 disease it causes."
Since NBC's report and the WHO's warning
that "border security probably won't work",
dozens of nations have shut their borders
around the world after consulting with health
authorities.
Healthcare workers in Italy transport a patient
with coroanvirus
AP Phots
Other European leaders like Hungarian Prime
Minister Viktor Orban have made a direct link
to migrants and the spread of the virus in
Europe. In Hungary, the first two cases were
from Iranian students who disregarded
university advice to self-quarantine. Since
then, a total of 15 Iranian students with
coronavirus infections have been deported
from Hungary and the EU for violating
Hungary's quarantine rules and behaving
aggressively towards medical staff.
“We are fighting a two-front war. One front is
called migration, and the other one belongs to
the coronavirus," said Orbán.
“We have seen that it was mostly foreigners
who brought in the disease, and that it is
mostly spreading among foreigners,” Orbán
added. “It’s no coincidence that the virus first
appeared among Iranians."
China's authoritarian communist
government has a track record
of hiding disease outbreaks
Italy has long maintained close ties with
China. It was the first European country to
begin offering direct flights to China 50 years
ago. More recently, it was the first G7 country
to sign on to China's controversial One Belt,
One Road project.
Italy is far from the only Western country that
has embraced China in the last three decades,
but right now, it is the one currently paying the
most for this close relationship. China's
dangerous handling of the coronavirus crisis
have revealed the threat the communist
country inherently poses to the international
community.
Throughout history, migration and travel have
historically been tied to disease. Europeans,
like any other group of people, were no
exception. The most notable example being
the incredible wave of death that greeted
Native Americans after they were exposed to
a range of diseases from European settlers. In
turn, Native Americans introduced Europeans
to other diseases, such as syphilis, that
inflicted their own horrors on European, and
later, Asian populations.
China's communist government has been
accused of covering up the coronavirus
outbreak, which had a major impact on its
spread around the globe.
AP Photo/Mark Schiefelbein
Perhaps the most famous disease in
European history also had its roots in China.
In 2010, genetic testing from researchers from
Germany and France conclusively proved that
the Black Death, which killed 30 percent or
more of Europe's population beginning in
1347 and routinely struck the continent for
centuries, originated in China.
Those disease outbreaks occurred during a
time before modern medicine, disease testing
and tracking, and even the most basic
understanding of what actually caused
disease. Now, governments and scientists
have significant power to influence the
outcome of an outbreak. In modern times,
China has been the source of some of the
most deadly diseases to strike a globalized
world, including SARS and bird flu, which both
predated coronavirus.
While there are methods to reduce the risk of
epidemics from taking off in the first place,
including proper sanitation, minimizing
contact with domesticated and exotic animals,
and reducing the overuse of antibiotics — to
just name a few — there is still always a
certain element of chance regarding where a
disease will arise and begin to spread.
What countries undoubtedly do have control
over is providing accurate and transparent
information about how a disease is
progressing in their own country and then
issuing warnings to other countries in the
international community about that danger.
China has a horrendous track record in this
regard. The country had already been
criticized for its handling of SARS after it was
accused of withholding information about that
outbreak. As a communist and autocratic
regime, China has no independent press nor a
government with true accountability to its
public in the form of democratic elections.
During the coronavirus crisis, China once
again hid the severity of the virus and even
silenced whistleblowers. Research from the
University of Southhampton now shows that
China could have prevented 95 percent of
coronavirus infections worldwide if it had
heeded the warning of Chinese doctor Li
Wenliang—who first warned of coronavirus on
Dec. 30—and enacted restrictive measures
three weeks earlier than it did.
Instead, Chinese police punished Dr. Wenliang
along with seven others for "spreading
rumors" about the virus.
The evidence shows that China's communist
authorities stalled as long as it could to
inform the world about the coronavirus and
only did so only once they could no longer
hide the severity of the disease to the
international community.
In the United States, the Trump administration
has been actively pointing to China's failure to
contain the virus. Former national security
advisor, John Bolton, has also said that China
is "responsible" for the coronavirus and that
the world needs to "act" and take action
against the communist nation.
"China silenced coronavirus whistleblowers,
expelled journalists, destroyed samples,
refused CDC help, and concealed counts of
deaths and infections. It's fact there was a
massive coverup. China is responsible. The
world must act to hold them accountable,"
tweeted the former U.N. ambassador.
Some U.S. journalists have also been willing
to take China to task for its actions. Shadi
Hamid had this to write about China for The
Atlantic:
The evidence of China’s deliberate cover-up of
the coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan is a matter
of public record. In suppressing information
about the virus, doing little to contain it, and
allowing it to spread unchecked in the crucial
early days and weeks, the regime imperiled
not only its own country and its own citizens
but also the more than 100 nations now
facing their own potentially devastating
outbreaks. More perniciously, the Chinese
government censored and detained those
brave doctors and whistleblowers who
attempted to sound the alarm and warn their
fellow citizens when they understood the
gravity of what was to come.
Chinese migrants and tourists
were already a concern during
last SARS outbreak
Italian doctors have raised concerns about
Chinese migrants in Italy before. For example,
a report from the Journal of Emergency
Infectious Diseases documented cases of
malaria brought to Italy's Lombardy province
by Chinese illegal migrants—the same
province currently serving as ground zero for
coronavirus in Italy. In the same journal
article, health authorities warned that illegal
Chinese migrants posed a transmission threat
to Europe regarding the deadly SARS virus,
which also originated in China in 2002.
The authors of the article found clusters of
malaria outbreaks among illegal Chinese
immigrants, with the groups being exposed to
the disease "during a prolonged journey to
Europe (3–9 months) through a number of
Asian and African countries."
The report mentioned that illegal immigration
from Chinese travelers posed a special danger
at the time:
"Clandestine travel by air to emigrate from
China, where sudden acute respiratory
syndrome (SARS) is present, poses a threat
for the African countries, where the
introduction of SARS virus could have
devastating consequences on their health
systems with a potential overlap with the HIV
epidemic. Other diseases could be spread or
acquired by the immigrants in the countries of
transit. While curtailing the huge, illegal
immigrant system to Europe is difficult, we
cannot overemphasize the need for a sound
surveillance on imported infectious diseases
in this continent."
Although SARS only ended up presenting with
four cases in Italy , in Toronto, the disease
managed to spread after an elderly woman
from Hong Kong, Kwan Sui-Chu, flew into
Toronto after being infected with SARS. Before
dying from the disease, she managed to
spread it to others, which resulted in 316
infections in Toronto.
At the time, the news media was also focused
on alleged discrimination of Asians in the city,
but some Chinese residents expressed an
element of understanding about concerns
within the Toronto community:
"Since this disease has its origins in China,
people have a right to be wary of us,"
Jonathan Mah, a resident of Toronto of
Chinese descent, told the Telegraph in 2003.
"Some people say this is racial profiling but it
strikes me more as prudence."
Europe's continued acceptance of immigrants
and even tourists from communist China, a
country that refuses to accurately report on
the risks of pandemics that spread within its
own borders, carries a bevy of risks. European
decision-makers may have ignored those risks
in the past, but with a disease as severe as
coronavirus, it may no longer be possible to
look the other way.
The current pandemic ravaging the world is
only the latest import from China that has sent
the entire country of Italy and the broader
international community into a medical
emergency that threatens to kill thousands
more and financially cripple the global
economy.
Only time will tell how countries like Italy and
the European Union respond to China, but
economic interests and accusations of racism
are likely to continue to restrain leaders,
journalists and policy-makers from honestly
assessing the risk the communist country
continues to present.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 9:58am On Apr 05, 2020
CutieKing:


Some of you asslickers are illiterates.so it's only Democrats that's holding primary on the said date??.why is Republican not postponing theirs?.didn't you read where he sought for a postponement but was denied by the court.
What powers does a governor has to postpone an election when the court had given the go ahead??.or you think it's a Nigeria where the governors act as an emperor.
You people won't stop displaying your stupidity.

Typical idiotic evil illeducated leftist. When you cannot counter an argument you resort to ad hominem (doubt you know what that means) attacks.
Washed out keyboard warrior operating from mum's basement

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by CutieKing: 10:16am On Apr 05, 2020
basilico:


Typical idiotic evil illeducated leftist. When you cannot counter an argument you resort to ad hominem (doubt you know what that means) attacks.
Washed out keyboard warrior operating from mum's basement

No need descending into a gutter...counter what I said with sound argument if you really have one.you think everyone is an asslicker like you.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Chrisbeks: 10:48am On Apr 05, 2020
At the worst possible moment, Joe Biden has endorsed tax increases on Wisconsin residents.

Donald Trump is at work protecting the country & Sleepy Joe wants to raise taxes!
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Chrisbeks: 10:51am On Apr 05, 2020
feedthenation:
Democrats slam Trump’s ‘dead of night’ decision to fire intelligence community IG

Democrats on Friday reacted furiously to President Trump’s decision to fire the intelligence community inspector general who informed Congress about the Ukraine whistleblower complaint.

"Trump’s dead of night decision to fire ICIG Michael Atkinson is another blatant attempt to gut the independence of the Intelligence Community and retaliate against those who dare to expose presidential wrongdoing," said Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., who chairs the House Intelligence Committee.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrats-trump-intelligence-community-ig

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/trump-considering-a-billionaire-investor-for-office-of-the-director-of-national-intelligence-report/


Michael Atkinson was presented with a whistleblower complaint about President Trump that should have been passed to the Attorney General

Instead he ignored his enabling statute and sent it to Congress for political reasons

He deserved to be fired!!
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Chrisbeks: 10:56am On Apr 05, 2020
wirinet:

I know that with your selective amnesia you blind, deaf and dumb to the admission on live TV by a Republican Governor (governor Kemp) that he only learnt yesterday that asymptomatic patients can speading the virus. Is incompetence a Republican targeted disease?

Democratic mayor of New York Bill De Blasio also said he just learned that asymptomatic people can spread coronavirus.

Maybe incompetence is also a Democrat targeted disease

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Chrisbeks: 11:23am On Apr 05, 2020
CNN and MSNBC covered the Brett Kavanaugh story 1 day after Ryan Grim reported it for the intercept but it's been 10 days since Ryan reported the Tara Reade story for the Intercept, and zero MSM coverage. Fake News!

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 11:45am On Apr 05, 2020
CutieKing:


No need descending into a gutter...counter what I said with sound argument if you really have one.you think everyone is an asslicker like you.

Counter this first.


Nancy Pelosi urged Chinatown life to go on as usual.
Italian mayor declared a hug a Wuhan Chinese day.
Deblasio told New Yorkers to continue live as normal.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 11:51am On Apr 05, 2020
Chrisbeks:


Michael Atkinson was presented with a whistleblower complaint about President Trump that should have been passed to the Attorney General

Instead he ignored his enabling statute and sent it to Congress for political reasons

He deserved to be fired!!

He changed the rules such that a whistleblower does not need a first hand account of what he/she is reporting. Effectively allow hearsay.
This was days after Eric Ciaramella with the help of Schiff and Mary Moyer (girlfriend to that attorney at fbi who edited Carter Page FISA warrant to say he was not CIA confidential human source which he was) ganged up to report on a telephone call made by Trump to ukraine overheard by Gildman the guy who went to the sham impeach trial in full military uniform

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