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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 5:42pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
garetz: Guy. Will you stop highlighting your empty stupidity. Trumps knee jerk travel ban does not erase his storm of denials. I hope you don't take the trump approach in your actual life. South Korea and the US had their first cases on the very same day. The US had China, the UK, Italy and Iran to look to as guides for what could happen. But your favorite clown in office issues a meaningless travel ban, then ran off to mara lago Lets use a quite your favorite idiot used in 2015. 'it's on you' Now Watch the Democrat and liberal media hoax kill 200,000 Americans while trump rakes up likes on twitter and kushner tells the US the federal stockpile is the federal stockpile. 3 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 6:01pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
ornicus:You're the one who is stupid not me. Almost every country in the world has put a travel ban in place to combat the coronavirus. Even your presidential candidate now supports it but you think you are wiser than the whole world leaders? That is stupidity of the highest order. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:01pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 6:10pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
garetz: The results speak for themselves. Trump the leader of the msot powerful nation in the history of the world could not handle the coronavirus better than taiwan or Singapore or China or even Mexico. So much winning. What do you expect from a fool who appoints his never do well son in law You can continue to trumpet your empty i take no responsibility excuses as Americans die. Trump thought being president was just lazing around and claiming others victories Better start making up your excuses for jobs and the economy next. Or you can open everywhere by Easter 3 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 6:15pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
budaatum: Guy, you know trumpanzees are cultist fanatics na. They have been programmed by a steady diet of faux news, and are incapable of logical thought. I have been sliding quotes from 1984 and animal farm into my comments but those have gone completely over their empty heads They are taking boxer to the knackers - the casual way some republicans the so called party of life say its OK for the old to die to 'save the economy' Oceania has always been at war with East Asia. Trump will say one thing, they will jump on it. He will deny it the next minute and they will claim he never said it. For them ignorance is strength. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 6:40pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
ornicus:Imagine touting a travel ban as the biggest achievement by Trump in the coronavirus war. They talk like a simple ban on flights from China and much later on Europe stopped the virus from decimating the US. They expect very little from Trump that even if he farts, that would be a major achievement. The Republicans are more interested in the stock market than US lives. When they were warned about the virus early january, the were more concerned about their stocks than the lives of Americans. That's the nature of Trump and his worshippers. He says one thing today and his supporters will defend the position with their lives, he then says the exact opposite the very next day and they would deny with with their mother's lives that he never said so in the first place, even if you show them video evidence. The craziest one to me was when during his meeting with Putin in Helsinki, he said " I don't see any reason why it would be" (Russia that interfered with the US elections. The very next day he said what he said was that "I don't see any reason why it would'nt be" and his goons are ready to defend him both ways, even though the speech is on YouTube. 4 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:49pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
ornicus:Sparknoted Fountainheads don't read 1984. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Kopfschmerzens: 7:30pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
These Trump cultist reminds me of David Koresh and Jim Jones of the famous Jones town massacre. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 8:21pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
BREAKING: New York "Accidentally" Delivered Coronavirus patients to the USNS Comfort... Which was supposed to only be for NON Coronavirus Patients.. The hits just keep on rolling with the morons in charge of New York.. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8187879/Multiple-coronavirus-patients-mistakenly-transferred-New-York-hospital-ship.html Tomorrow some liberal morons will start blaming Trump when the death rate in New York keep skyrocketing. 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 9:35pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
garetz:I know that with your selective amnesia you blind, deaf and dumb to the admission on live TV by a Republican Governor (governor Kemp) that he only learnt yesterday that asymptomatic patients can speading the virus. Is incompetence a Republican targeted disease? 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 9:55pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
wirinet:How can you accuse the governor of Georgia of incompetence when he has managed the crises in his state very efficiently as a result of which they have recorded 183 deaths compared to the moronic liberal in New York who has presided over the deaths of over 3,500 people as at the last count. It's really the height of absurdity for any liberal to point hands at any Republican governor right now because your own governors' incompetence is the reason why the US death rate is increasing by the day. Go check out the list of coronavirus deaths by states in the US and the top 6 states with the highest death rates are all governed by a Democrat. The highest death rate in a republican controlled state is Georgia with 183 deaths. Don't even try to get into that comparison. When it comes to this coronavirus crises, Democrat governors have been the poster boys of incompetence across the US. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 10:02pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
The irony of liberals describing Governor Cuomo of New York as being presidential in the middle of his disastrous handling of the coronavirus crises is melting irony detectors. The same people who cry from morning till night blaming Trump for everything about the virus are praising the governor who is presiding over the highest numbers of infections and deaths in the US. Hypocrites of the highest order. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 10:18pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
Trump Org Reportedly Seeking Debt Help From Deutsche As Bank Is Probed By DOJ https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/deutsche-bank-trump-debt-help-coronavirus-conflict-of-interest_n_5e87ee89c5b6cc1e47758499?ri18n=true In another tangled ethics situation for Donald Trump, the president’s Trump Organization is reportedly asking to postpone its loan payments to Deutsche Bank — which is being investigated by the Department of Justice to determine if it complied with anti-money laundering regulations. The situation highlights the unique power of Trump as president to maneuver a deal for his business hurt by the COVID-19 crisis, particularly with a bank under investigation by his own administration. Trump did not divest from his businesses when he moved into the White House as other presidents have done to avoid conflicts of interest. The current scenario is the “absolute nightmare that someone (ahem) warned about” when Trump took office, tweeted Walter Shaub, the former head of the U.S. Office of Government Ethics under both Barack Obama and Trump. The Trump Organization has been hit hard amid the coronavirus pandemic as consumers slash their stays in hotels and trips to golf resorts. The company has laid off or furloughed some 1,500 employees in several hotels, The Washington Post reported. As of Friday, 17 of the Trump Organization’s hotels and clubs were closed, according to the Post. The shuttered operations amounted to some $650,000 a day in lost revenue, the newspaper reported. Loans from Deutsche Bank, the Trump Organization’s biggest creditor, have reportedly been used for Trump’s Chicago Tower, the Trump National Doral Miami golf resort — which is now shuttered — and his Washington, D.C., hotel, which has closed its bar and restaurant, The New York Times reported. The loans are backed by a personal guarantee from Trump himself, according to the Times. Deutsche Bank has loaned the Trump Organization some $2 billion since 1998, and there are currently an estimated $350 million in loans outstanding, the newspaper reported. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 11:22pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
Democrats slam Trump’s ‘dead of night’ decision to fire intelligence community IG Democrats on Friday reacted furiously to President Trump’s decision to fire the intelligence community inspector general who informed Congress about the Ukraine whistleblower complaint. "Trump’s dead of night decision to fire ICIG Michael Atkinson is another blatant attempt to gut the independence of the Intelligence Community and retaliate against those who dare to expose presidential wrongdoing," said Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., who chairs the House Intelligence Committee. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrats-trump-intelligence-community-ig https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/trump-considering-a-billionaire-investor-for-office-of-the-director-of-national-intelligence-report/
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 11:37pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
Trump Organization laid off employees as pandemic hits business The Trump Organization has laid off or furloughed about 1,500 employees at hotels in the United States and Canada as the coronavirus pandemic inflicts further pain on the president’s private business. With most of President Trump’s hotels and clubs closed amid stay-at-home orders around the world, the Trump Organization has responded by slashing costs, much like other companies in the hospitality and tourism industries. The Trump Organization has laid off or furloughed employees at hotels in New York, the District of Columbia, Miami, Chicago, Las Vegas, Vancouver and Honolulu, according to public filings and people familiar with the properties, including union officials. Seventeen of Trump’s clubs and hotels have closed. The remainder of Trump properties are operating at a fraction of their normal capacity: hotels running with restaurants closed, golf clubs operating with clubhouses shut down, and golfers warned not to share carts or touch the flagsticks. All told, the closed properties generated an average of $650,000 in revenue for Trump per day, according to Trump’s past financial disclosures. That economic strain has pushed Trump Organization officials to inquire about possible relief, at least temporarily, from the company’s financial obligations at one of its properties. In Palm Beach County, Fla., the Trump Organization has not paid rent of $54,534.25 that was due April 1 on land it leases from the county government for the Trump International Golf Club West Palm Beach, a county representative said Friday. “Because payment has not become due, and in light of Governor’s DeSantis’ executive order shutting down businesses throughout the State of Florida as a result of the COVID 19 pandemic, the County advised us to refrain from making payment until they have finalized their policy for the handling of their numerous leases,” Alan Garten, a Trump Organization executive, said in a statement. “As soon as the County finalizes its guidance, we will, of course, fully and timely comply with its directives as well as continue to comply with the requirements of the lease.” Palm Beach County officials did not respond to a question about Garten’s comment that the company was advised not to make the payment. The West Palm Beach golf club sits on county land, and the Trump Organization pays $995,000 per year for two leases that pertain to one 18-hole and one nine-hole course, according to county officials. No monthly payment had been received on the 18-hole lease, which is administered by the county airports department, said Nicole Ferris, a county spokeswoman. She did not respond to questions about the second rent payment, of $33,804.88, that also was due April 1. https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/trump-organization-has-laid-off-about-1500-employees-as-pandemic-hits-business/ar-BB129anb?ocid=st
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by CutieKing: 7:03am On Apr 05, 2020 |
So much blind followers here but what I find amazing is the way trump supporters see him and talk about him as the only best thing that ever happened to mankind.they see him as the omnipresent,omnipotent and omniscient God that would not only serve the maximum 8years as president but would remain the president of the US till the world cease to exit. And funny enough,majority of these asslickers are based in Nigeria with the fox news and trump twitter handle as their only source of information. 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Hyperchi(m): 8:18am On Apr 05, 2020 |
CutieKing: Have u liberal for one day acknowledge ur fault, u ppl where busy fighting a leader when report of a crisis was on, now he is fighting the crisis, it will not suprise me to see u guys still fighting him during the crisis. Was this how they fought Obama during Spanish flu 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 8:24am On Apr 05, 2020 |
So because of politics some governors will sacrifice lives? 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 9:00am On Apr 05, 2020 |
Fredo's brother who goes by the name Cuomo the governor of New York was crying daily on TV about Trump not helping .Saying he needed 30k ventilators . Thats 30k beds too. Trump sent two 1000 bed hospital ships staffed by 800-1000 personnel to York and Calif. The ships were meant to treat non Wuhan virus patients only so that hospital resources could better take care of the corona patients. Rachel Maddow of MSNBC lied about the ships not making it to Calif and York in a matter of months. The ships docked within a few days. Maddow the lesbian never apologised. Both ships have treated only 19 patients so far.Talk about waste of resources. Talk about media lying about how New York needs extra 30k beds and so far the hospital ship has treated only 10 non Wuhan (deliberate referring it Wuhan) virus cases. Yesterday the New York hospital authorities sent 3 patients to the ship with corona knowing fully well that it was only meant for non Wuhan virus patients. Sounds sabotage to me. They claimed it was a mistake. Main stream media not reporting this. Dems are nothing short of evil. Extremely evil devious pathetic sons of bittches. To add salt to injury the Dems led by pencil neck Schiff ,Pelosi and Schumer are trying to investigate the crisis and specifically Trump response to the Wuhan virus crisis. Dont forget that as soon as Trump banned flights from China these scumbags called him xenophobic and racist to boot. 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 9:33am On Apr 05, 2020 |
The foolish Democrat governor of Wisconsin has decided to go ahead with the state's presidential primaries on Tuesday. What can go wrong? Keep an eye on the coronavirus infections and deaths rates in Wisconsin. I don't want to hear any stupid liberal mentioning Trump's name if the numbers start spiking after Tuesday. 3 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 9:39am On Apr 05, 2020 |
A long read from americanthinker. com A reasonable observer would expect a minimum level of professionalism from New York City health commissioner, Dr. Oxiris Barbot. One wouldn't expect that someone charged with protecting New York City's public health would instead endanger the well-being of New Yorkers by ignoring the severe health ramifications and the real danger of the coronavirus. However, while most of the Democratic leadership of New York City was busy criticizing President Trump for deciding to impose travel restrictions on those entering the United States and dismissing the incoming threat of the coronavirus in February, this health commissioner was quoted stating the following on numerous TV interviews: "The risk to New Yorkers from coronavirus is low, and ... our preparedness as a city is very high." Barbot said this at a press conference supporting the Chinatown Lunar New Year Parade and Festival. "There is no reason not to take the subway, not to take a bus, not to go out to your favorite restaurant and certainly not to miss the parade next Sunday [Feb. 9]." The unprofessional behavior of New York City's health commissioner, a Democratic Party appointee, has been labeled by many health officials as possibly criminally negligent. Under different circumstances, she should have been forced to excuse herself and resign immediately pending further legal action. Over the past few weeks, as we have witnessed the snowball effect of the rate of infection of the coronavirus, New York City officials in a Democratic administration should be held accountable for increasing the "risk" for the residents of New York City. They not only egregiously dismissed the coronavirus outbreak and pandemic in its earlier stages, but actually encouraged unrestricted public behavior as if there were no danger of being infected, as if they knew what they were talking about. The Democrats' nonchalant policy has been deadly for New Yorkers. Had this incredible and negligent behavior by the health commissioner been an isolated incident, the risk might have been contained. Unfortunately, Mayor Bill de Blasio also failed to shield the residents of New York City, partly through inaction but largely through indifference. As the coronavirus emerged from China, invaded Europe, and began to spread throughout the world, the Trump administration was formulating national policies to deal with the high mortality rate expected from COVID-19, understanding that the situation was one of life or death. Yet at the same time, Mayor de Blasio was busy criticizing President Trump for imposing restrictions in the United States in an attempt to prevent the import of the coronavirus through the airports and borders. Mayor de Blasio's indifference to the coronavirus threat probably contributed more to New York City becoming a center of infection in the United States than the actions of his criminally negligent health commissioner. New York governor Andrew Cuomo told the media at one of his many and highly effective coronavirus response press conferences that he believed that New York City schools should be closed. Mayor Bill de Blasio had consistently refused until then to shut down schools despite fellow Democrats in the tri-state area demanding that he do so. De Blasio's refusal to cancel school a week and more after most other districts in the tri-state had done so contributed significantly to the acceleration of the outbreak of the coronavirus in New York City. An additional de Blasio decision that contributed to the pace of the outbreak had to do with instituting a significant reduction schedule in public transportation, primarily with the New York City subway system forcing unusual crowding among subway-riders who were largely unprotected. One would expect that at the same time the mayor instituted a significant reduction in the subway schedule, he would authorize the cancelation of alternate side parking or cancel metered parking, encouraging those still working outside their homes to use private cars so as to limit exposure to the potential danger of being infected on public transportation. Instead, his administration encouraged use of public transportation and continued to disincentivize the use of private cars. Alternate side parking was suspended only a few days ago, and metered parking restrictions are still in effect as of this writing. Mayor de Blasio's irresponsible and reckless delays probably cost many deaths that otherwise could have been avoided. The number of infected, hospitalized, and dead is rising, meaning that the worst is yet to come for New York City residents. So far, there are 36,221 cases of coronavirus infection in New York City, including 790 deaths (as of March 29). In recent days, with social distancing and forced stay-at-home "guidelines" issued by the federal and New York State authorities, New Yorkers should hopefully experience a major reduction in infections and deaths over the coming weeks and months. The Democratic leadership of New York City would be wise to examine their policy decisions over the past month so as to avoid making similar decisions that can adversely affect the good people of the City of New York. 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 9:46am On Apr 05, 2020 |
basilico:You're spot on with this, these Democrats are not just incompetent, they are evil people to the core. 4 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by CutieKing: 9:47am On Apr 05, 2020 |
garetz: Some of you asslickers are illiterates.so it's only Democrats that's holding primary on the said date??.why is Republican not postponing theirs?.didn't you read where he sought for a postponement but was denied by the court. What powers does a governor has to postpone an election when the court had given the go ahead??.or you think it's a Nigeria where the governors act as an emperor. You people won't stop displaying your stupidity. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 9:52am On Apr 05, 2020 |
Another long read. How political correctness spread by leftists like Lucasbabe helped kill more Italians than necessary. Some all knowing leftists IMHO should face charges of crimes against humanity. Typical lefist talian mayor advicing Italians to hug the Chinese so we can can viewed as not racist. 56k dead since then This article was published on March 20 2020 One of Italy's top virologists said in an interview with CNN that fears of being accused of racism may have played a prominent role in the Italian government's initial refusal to close the borders to China during the coronavirus outbreak. Dr. Giorgio Palù is one of Italy's most prominent virologist, having served as a former president of the European and Italian Society for Virology and currently a professor of virology and microbiology at the University of Padova. He believes that the Italian government put political correctness before the health of the Italian people, which led to the "current devastating situation" in the country. "There was a proposal to isolate people coming from the epicenter, coming from China," Dr. Palù said in his interview with CNN. "Then it became seen as racist, but they were people coming from the outbreak." Dr. Palù believes that this border control failure led to the devastating situation that Italy is currently facing, with over 4,825 deaths and 53,578 infected. According to Dr. Palù, he believes the Italian government lagged in its efforts to fight the coronavirus, saying the government was "lazy in the beginning... too much politics in Italy." Italy's first confirmed coronavirus cases were Chinese tourists To better understand Dr. Palù, it is not only important to understand China's connection to Italy but also the way the media has covered the coronavirus crisis. What has already been established is that Italy's first two confirmed cases were a Chinese couple who arrived in Milan's airport from Wuhan on Jan. 23 for a lunar new year holiday. The couple traveled across the country on a tourist bus with 100 other Chinese tourists before health authorities in Rome confirmed their diagnosis. Only a week later, on Jan. 31, did Italy implement a full travel ban with China, but by then it was too late. Italy is also home to 300,000 Chinese immigrants, the largest population of Chinese in all of Europe, with the majority located in Northern Italy, which now serves as the epicenter of the outbreak. Dr. Giorgio Palù said that Italy let fear of racism accusations guide its public health decisions. Besides the 300,000 Chinese living in Italy, 5 million Chinese tourists also visit Italy every year, making Italy the most popular destination for Chinese tourists in all of Europe. Given the high volume of Chinese nationals too and from Italy, many believe, including Dr. Palù, that restricting China's access to Italy much earlier would have prevented the spread of the disease in Europe or at least slowed its transmission. The media attack Italians for 'racism' during Italy's coronavirus crisis Dr. Palù's claim that Italy may have feared closing its border to Chinese travelers due to accusations of racism may have also partly arisen over the media's overage of the issue. For example, the Guardian excoriated Italians who demonstrated concern about coming in contact with Asians after Italy's first two recorded coronavirus cases were documented as Chinese tourists from Wuhan, with the article mostly discussing "incidents of xenophobia and calls to avoid Chinese restaurants and shops". Other liberal publications, such as the Daily Beast, claimed "hypochondriac" Italians were overreacting to their fear of Chinese out of "racism". China's own state-owned news networks were also pushing a narrative in Italy about racism as well. The organization Associazione Unione Giovani Italo Cinesi, which is funded by the Chinese government, produced a number of videos before the coronavirus took hold in Italy. In one video , posted under the hashtags #ImNotVirus and #ImHuman, features a Chinese girl runs around Milan with a placard that reads, "Hug me! I'm not a virus." In another, a Chinese man in Florence encourages passersby to hug him while he wears a face mask. The first videos was posted on the Youtube channel New China TV, which is run by the Xinhua News Agency, the official state-owned press arm of China. The second was posted by the China Global Television Network, another state-owned broadcaster. Italian residents hug Chinese people to encourage them in coronavirus fight Watch later Share Some Italians took up the call from China, including Florence's mayor, Dario Nardella, who launched a nationwide campaign to ‘hug a Chinese person’, which was featured in a video posted to China's People's Daily , which is also run by the Chinese government. Nardella said he was running the campaign to "stem the hatred". Now, as the death toll has skyrocketed, Italians and people around the world are encouraged to use social distancing to stop the spread of the virus. Hugging of any type between strangers, whether they are Chinese or not, is now out of the question in all of Italy. Calls to close Italy's border were attacked by the media Other politicians in Italy voiced their concern early about China, but were attacked for their position. The Guardian claimed that Italy's former interior minister, Matteo Salvini had "seized on the panic to plug his anti-immigration message and attack rivals in government." "Every day dozens of flights arrive in Italy from China: we need checks, checks and more checks," Salvini warned. Former Italian Interior Minister Matteo Salvini called on checks and quarantines for visitors from China. Salvini also said after the crisis took hold in Italy that “we were accused of racism because we asked for checks and quarantines. Talking about isolating those who came from areas at risk seemed like a dirty word in January, now according to virologists it is the only way to limit the problem.” In another piece attacking the Italian hardline immigration politician, NBC News wrote that despite Salvini's demands to close the Italian border, "the World Health Organization has warned that trying to restrict border security probably won't work — and might even hinder the global fight against the virus and the COVID-19 disease it causes." Since NBC's report and the WHO's warning that "border security probably won't work", dozens of nations have shut their borders around the world after consulting with health authorities. Healthcare workers in Italy transport a patient with coroanvirus AP Phots Other European leaders like Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban have made a direct link to migrants and the spread of the virus in Europe. In Hungary, the first two cases were from Iranian students who disregarded university advice to self-quarantine. Since then, a total of 15 Iranian students with coronavirus infections have been deported from Hungary and the EU for violating Hungary's quarantine rules and behaving aggressively towards medical staff. “We are fighting a two-front war. One front is called migration, and the other one belongs to the coronavirus," said Orbán. “We have seen that it was mostly foreigners who brought in the disease, and that it is mostly spreading among foreigners,” Orbán added. “It’s no coincidence that the virus first appeared among Iranians." China's authoritarian communist government has a track record of hiding disease outbreaks Italy has long maintained close ties with China. It was the first European country to begin offering direct flights to China 50 years ago. More recently, it was the first G7 country to sign on to China's controversial One Belt, One Road project. Italy is far from the only Western country that has embraced China in the last three decades, but right now, it is the one currently paying the most for this close relationship. China's dangerous handling of the coronavirus crisis have revealed the threat the communist country inherently poses to the international community. Throughout history, migration and travel have historically been tied to disease. Europeans, like any other group of people, were no exception. The most notable example being the incredible wave of death that greeted Native Americans after they were exposed to a range of diseases from European settlers. In turn, Native Americans introduced Europeans to other diseases, such as syphilis, that inflicted their own horrors on European, and later, Asian populations. China's communist government has been accused of covering up the coronavirus outbreak, which had a major impact on its spread around the globe. AP Photo/Mark Schiefelbein Perhaps the most famous disease in European history also had its roots in China. In 2010, genetic testing from researchers from Germany and France conclusively proved that the Black Death, which killed 30 percent or more of Europe's population beginning in 1347 and routinely struck the continent for centuries, originated in China. Those disease outbreaks occurred during a time before modern medicine, disease testing and tracking, and even the most basic understanding of what actually caused disease. Now, governments and scientists have significant power to influence the outcome of an outbreak. In modern times, China has been the source of some of the most deadly diseases to strike a globalized world, including SARS and bird flu, which both predated coronavirus. While there are methods to reduce the risk of epidemics from taking off in the first place, including proper sanitation, minimizing contact with domesticated and exotic animals, and reducing the overuse of antibiotics — to just name a few — there is still always a certain element of chance regarding where a disease will arise and begin to spread. What countries undoubtedly do have control over is providing accurate and transparent information about how a disease is progressing in their own country and then issuing warnings to other countries in the international community about that danger. China has a horrendous track record in this regard. The country had already been criticized for its handling of SARS after it was accused of withholding information about that outbreak. As a communist and autocratic regime, China has no independent press nor a government with true accountability to its public in the form of democratic elections. During the coronavirus crisis, China once again hid the severity of the virus and even silenced whistleblowers. Research from the University of Southhampton now shows that China could have prevented 95 percent of coronavirus infections worldwide if it had heeded the warning of Chinese doctor Li Wenliang—who first warned of coronavirus on Dec. 30—and enacted restrictive measures three weeks earlier than it did. Instead, Chinese police punished Dr. Wenliang along with seven others for "spreading rumors" about the virus. The evidence shows that China's communist authorities stalled as long as it could to inform the world about the coronavirus and only did so only once they could no longer hide the severity of the disease to the international community. In the United States, the Trump administration has been actively pointing to China's failure to contain the virus. Former national security advisor, John Bolton, has also said that China is "responsible" for the coronavirus and that the world needs to "act" and take action against the communist nation. "China silenced coronavirus whistleblowers, expelled journalists, destroyed samples, refused CDC help, and concealed counts of deaths and infections. It's fact there was a massive coverup. China is responsible. The world must act to hold them accountable," tweeted the former U.N. ambassador. Some U.S. journalists have also been willing to take China to task for its actions. Shadi Hamid had this to write about China for The Atlantic: The evidence of China’s deliberate cover-up of the coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan is a matter of public record. In suppressing information about the virus, doing little to contain it, and allowing it to spread unchecked in the crucial early days and weeks, the regime imperiled not only its own country and its own citizens but also the more than 100 nations now facing their own potentially devastating outbreaks. More perniciously, the Chinese government censored and detained those brave doctors and whistleblowers who attempted to sound the alarm and warn their fellow citizens when they understood the gravity of what was to come. Chinese migrants and tourists were already a concern during last SARS outbreak Italian doctors have raised concerns about Chinese migrants in Italy before. For example, a report from the Journal of Emergency Infectious Diseases documented cases of malaria brought to Italy's Lombardy province by Chinese illegal migrants—the same province currently serving as ground zero for coronavirus in Italy. In the same journal article, health authorities warned that illegal Chinese migrants posed a transmission threat to Europe regarding the deadly SARS virus, which also originated in China in 2002. The authors of the article found clusters of malaria outbreaks among illegal Chinese immigrants, with the groups being exposed to the disease "during a prolonged journey to Europe (3–9 months) through a number of Asian and African countries." The report mentioned that illegal immigration from Chinese travelers posed a special danger at the time: "Clandestine travel by air to emigrate from China, where sudden acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) is present, poses a threat for the African countries, where the introduction of SARS virus could have devastating consequences on their health systems with a potential overlap with the HIV epidemic. Other diseases could be spread or acquired by the immigrants in the countries of transit. While curtailing the huge, illegal immigrant system to Europe is difficult, we cannot overemphasize the need for a sound surveillance on imported infectious diseases in this continent." Although SARS only ended up presenting with four cases in Italy , in Toronto, the disease managed to spread after an elderly woman from Hong Kong, Kwan Sui-Chu, flew into Toronto after being infected with SARS. Before dying from the disease, she managed to spread it to others, which resulted in 316 infections in Toronto. At the time, the news media was also focused on alleged discrimination of Asians in the city, but some Chinese residents expressed an element of understanding about concerns within the Toronto community: "Since this disease has its origins in China, people have a right to be wary of us," Jonathan Mah, a resident of Toronto of Chinese descent, told the Telegraph in 2003. "Some people say this is racial profiling but it strikes me more as prudence." Europe's continued acceptance of immigrants and even tourists from communist China, a country that refuses to accurately report on the risks of pandemics that spread within its own borders, carries a bevy of risks. European decision-makers may have ignored those risks in the past, but with a disease as severe as coronavirus, it may no longer be possible to look the other way. The current pandemic ravaging the world is only the latest import from China that has sent the entire country of Italy and the broader international community into a medical emergency that threatens to kill thousands more and financially cripple the global economy. Only time will tell how countries like Italy and the European Union respond to China, but economic interests and accusations of racism are likely to continue to restrain leaders, journalists and policy-makers from honestly assessing the risk the communist country continues to present. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 9:58am On Apr 05, 2020 |
CutieKing: Typical idiotic evil illeducated leftist. When you cannot counter an argument you resort to ad hominem (doubt you know what that means) attacks. Washed out keyboard warrior operating from mum's basement 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by CutieKing: 10:16am On Apr 05, 2020 |
basilico: No need descending into a gutter...counter what I said with sound argument if you really have one.you think everyone is an asslicker like you. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Chrisbeks: 10:48am On Apr 05, 2020 |
At the worst possible moment, Joe Biden has endorsed tax increases on Wisconsin residents. Donald Trump is at work protecting the country & Sleepy Joe wants to raise taxes! |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Chrisbeks: 10:51am On Apr 05, 2020 |
feedthenation: Michael Atkinson was presented with a whistleblower complaint about President Trump that should have been passed to the Attorney General Instead he ignored his enabling statute and sent it to Congress for political reasons He deserved to be fired!! |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Chrisbeks: 10:56am On Apr 05, 2020 |
wirinet: Democratic mayor of New York Bill De Blasio also said he just learned that asymptomatic people can spread coronavirus. Maybe incompetence is also a Democrat targeted disease 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Chrisbeks: 11:23am On Apr 05, 2020 |
CNN and MSNBC covered the Brett Kavanaugh story 1 day after Ryan Grim reported it for the intercept but it's been 10 days since Ryan reported the Tara Reade story for the Intercept, and zero MSM coverage. Fake News! 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 11:45am On Apr 05, 2020 |
CutieKing: Counter this first. Nancy Pelosi urged Chinatown life to go on as usual. Italian mayor declared a hug a Wuhan Chinese day. Deblasio told New Yorkers to continue live as normal. 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 11:51am On Apr 05, 2020 |
Chrisbeks: He changed the rules such that a whistleblower does not need a first hand account of what he/she is reporting. Effectively allow hearsay. This was days after Eric Ciaramella with the help of Schiff and Mary Moyer (girlfriend to that attorney at fbi who edited Carter Page FISA warrant to say he was not CIA confidential human source which he was) ganged up to report on a telephone call made by Trump to ukraine overheard by Gildman the guy who went to the sham impeach trial in full military uniform 2 Likes 1 Share |
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