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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 10:40pm On Apr 05, 2020
Xavfra:


It is sad that Nigerians do dat ...

And col. Abu Ali ...I salute you....

The traitors in the rank are too much....
I still wonder what the DSS does


The traitors are the Big Army top brats and DHQ cashing out on this war. ISWAP has overun several military bases here in Northern Borno without ambusing. When a military base will exchange fire with these bastards for over 2hours with no air support from Maiduguri. How long does it even take a Jet fighter from even Yola to arrive Borno?

No be boys for trench dey sell out abeg

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 10:54pm On Apr 05, 2020
SamuelAnyawu:



The traitors are the Big Army top brats and DHQ cashing out on this war. ISWAP has overun several military bases here in Northern Borno without ambusing. When a military base will exchange fire with these bastards for over 2hours with no air support from Maiduguri. How long does it even take a Jet fighter from even Yola to arrive Borno?

No be boys for trench dey sell out abeg




I agree with you...

The main people limiting our power in this war is the top heads......

Sometimes I just feel like they should be killed.


Our soldiers are like walking Dead men.

Something needs to be done

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 4:50am On Apr 06, 2020
Boko haram terrorist releasing images from past fight claiming its recent, shows how desperate they can go in there propaganda lies.
A Styer APC that was destroyed, is what some people call or presume to be MBT.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by lebuhsi(m): 7:13am On Apr 06, 2020
bidexiii:
Boko haram terrorist releasing images from past fight claiming its recent, shows how desperate they can go in there propaganda lies.
A Styer APC that was destroyed, is what some people call or presume to be MBT.
But bidexii, who do you know it's not recent?...remember those armored vehicle Lt gen. Buratai commissioned few days ago?...pic 2 looks like one, I'm just saying though?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 7:18am On Apr 06, 2020
lebuhsi:

But bidexii, who do you know it's not recent?...remember those armored vehicle Lt gen. Buratai commissioned few days ago?...pic 2 looks like one, I'm just saying though?
yeah I know those vehicles.These are past pics I swr..
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by lebuhsi(m): 7:25am On Apr 06, 2020
Toju200:
yeah I know those vehicles.These are past pics I swr..
Okay, I just saw the video, much of it looks like scenes from the attacks in gorgi, this appears not to be the 1st time they'll do this when there are under pressure

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 7:53am On Apr 06, 2020
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 8:04am On Apr 06, 2020
lebuhsi:

But bidexii, who do you know it's not recent?...remember those armored vehicle Lt gen. Buratai commissioned few days ago?...pic 2 looks like one, I'm just saying though?

Before they where commissioned I have seen them in the frontlines.
The commissioning was just for ceremonial and to unveil the vehicle officially.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 8:09am On Apr 06, 2020
bidexiii:
Boko haram terrorist releasing images from past fight claiming its recent, shows how desperate they can go in there propaganda lies.
A Styer APC that was destroyed, is what some people call or presume to be MBT.
that MBRL In the last pics was destroyed in an Airstrike that day...
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 8:20am On Apr 06, 2020
lebuhsi:

Okay, I just saw the video, much of it looks like scenes from the attacks in gorgi, this appears not to be the 1st time they'll do this when there are under pressure

Major scenes or let me say 80% of the video is from Gorgi and don’t forget the very same week there attacks in Yobe also.
So it seems they patched the video all together.

[/b]I hope our top brass learns from this mistake and looks into troops transportation and standardization of armored vehicles for troops sake. Another saddening side of this story is that the NA looses scarce equipment to terrorist is bad, this vehicle is only few months old.

And I want to add one poor side of these armored vehicle is that it’s way too heavy even during this dry season. The vehicle is strong when it comes to armor and fire-power delivery but ease of maneuverability is very poor especially during combat, from the video one can easy tell the vehicle got stalked and abandoned when the attack was getting close.
I think the NA should look inwards into producing 4 x 4 armored vehicle like the proforce/REVA with heavy protection/fire power then we see less of vehicles been captured [b]

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 8:24am On Apr 06, 2020
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Xbee007(m): 8:26am On Apr 06, 2020
Toju200:
that MBRL In the last pics was destroyed in an Airstrike that day...
Link please.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 8:26am On Apr 06, 2020
#Beautiful sight
#lake Chad
#Yet a deadly area to be grin

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 8:48am On Apr 06, 2020
bidexiii:


Major scenes or let me say 80% of the video is from Gorgi and don’t forget the very same week there attacks in Yobe also.
So it seems they patched the video all together.

[/b]I hope our top brass learns from this mistake and looks into troops transportation and standardization of armored vehicles for troops sake. Another saddening side of this story is that the NA looses scarce equipment to terrorist is bad, this vehicle is only few months old.

And I want to add one poor side of these armored vehicle is that it’s way too heavy even during this dry season. The vehicle is strong when it comes to armor and fire-power delivery but ease of maneuverability is very poor especially during combat, from the video one can easy tell the vehicle got stalked and abandoned when the attack was getting close.
I think the NA should look inwards into producing 4 x 4 armored vehicle like the proforce/REVA with heavy protection/fire power then we see less of vehicles been captured [b]
Although I am inexperienced in military operations but following this thread for years now I observed two things?
1. Why can't we have a chopper escorting them whenever they move many men and materials? Because to me the army need eyes in the sky due the dynamics of the enemy take for example the case of Gen. Adeniyi he has no business on ground that day, he should be in the sky coordinating affairs base on his overview of the battle ground.
2. Why is this operation not under the Chief of Defense Staff Office so that all the security agencies will contribute men and materials into a single course?
The case of Theatre Commander saying he has seen gunship they sent shows lack of coordination I think he should have some platforms under his command.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by jpphilips(m): 9:42am On Apr 06, 2020
BabaOwen:
grin grin

If is this easy as you're saying it, The Americans won't be signing a peace deal with the Taliban.

With the way things dey go for West Africa now, it will be so hard to conquer all this Islamic terrorist in the Western part of Africa. Even NATO and some other militaries in Mali are not having it easy.

The way i see things, this war is not ending this year or next year or anytime soon. It will take time, what the government can do for now is to let our military always be on the offensive and make sure we don't have troops dying in large numbers.

US is making a deal with Talbans because it is not their war!!
Do you expect the US to make a deal with the Taliban if they were operating in Philadelphia?

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 9:50am On Apr 06, 2020
jpphilips:


US is making a deal with Talbans because it is not their war!!
Do you expect the US to make a deal with the Taliban if they were operating in Philadelphia?

This makes no sense.

The US entered Afghanistan because 3,000 Americans were killed in 9/11.

The US has the world's largest forward force projection. Whether in Colombus or Kandahar they can deliver the punch.

The US is making the deal with the Taliban because after nearly 20 years of US and NATO military operations in Afghanistan, they have come to the realisation that they cannot win militarily.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 9:55am On Apr 06, 2020
nemesis8u:


Nigerian SF were never trained in India. That's wrong info.


Navy SBS have had training in India.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 10:01am On Apr 06, 2020
DavidAdeyemo:

Although I am inexperienced in military operations but following this thread for years now I observed two things?
1. Why can't we have a chopper escorting them whenever they move many men and materials? Because to me the army need eyes in the sky due the dynamics of the enemy take for example the case of Gen. Adeniyi he has no business on ground that day, he should be in the sky coordinating affairs base on his overview of the battle ground.
2. Why is this operation not under the Chief of Defense Staff Office so that all the security agencies will contribute men and materials into a single course?
The case of Theatre Commander saying he has seen gunship they sent shows lack of coordination I think he should have some platforms under his command.

I agree that military operations should be coordinated from DHQ.

It seems as though each individual service has it's own running mission, running concurrently with the general military operations in the North East.

I also agree on your comment on the theater commander. I think one of the major issues we have is an insufficient number of air platforms.

I am also of the opinion that the army needs to quickly stand up it's own air arm.

Also the air force needs to get it's remaining MI-35m helicopters. Last I read, they have all been built.

Nigeria has not completed payment for them.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 10:01am On Apr 06, 2020
DavidAdeyemo:

Although I am inexperienced in military operations but following this thread for years now I observed two things?
1. Why can't we have a chopper escorting them whenever they move many men and materials? Because to me the army need eyes in the sky due the dynamics of the enemy take for example the case of Gen. Adeniyi he has no business on ground that day, he should be in the sky coordinating affairs base on his overview of the battle ground.
2. Why is this operation not under the Chief of Defense Staff Office so that all the security agencies will contribute men and materials into a single course?
The case of Theatre Commander saying he has seen gunship they sent shows lack of coordination I think he should have some platforms under his command.

1) the problem is our top brass are still doing stuffs the same old way not learning from there past mistakes and they want to get results.
Why not something more stealthy that can report enemy positions during clearing/mopping up operations and if there is any need to call in an air strike. It takes less than minutes for air assets to reach anywhere in Borno or the North east theatre. The army needs her own close in air support for there own operations, we can leave deep air interdictions for the airforce.
I have always ask where is the air force in scenarios like Gorgi The airlord is doing well but much is needed in such tactical scenarios.

2) Other arms of the military are involved in the COIN in the northeast, even the NPF are not left out. But in terms of equipment support they can do much better.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 10:08am On Apr 06, 2020
Salatavor:
they trained in Mali? But your special forces train in Russia, India, Israel, Pakistan and Britain. How come we are losing to those who trained in Mali?

We are not losing. South-Africa spent 28 years in Angola fighting terrorists.

Syrian civil war has gone on for 9 years despite heavy Russian involvement.

Nigerian army suffered losses in an ambush to BHT, but we have successfully degraded BHT to carrying out hit and run in isolated areas.

That's hardly a victory

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by jpphilips(m): 10:11am On Apr 06, 2020
kabe1:


This makes no sense.

The US has the world's largest forward force projection. Whether in Colombus or Kandahar they can deliver the punch.

The US is making the deal with the Taliban because after nearly 20 years of US and NATO military operations in Afghanistan, they have come to the realisation that they cannot win militarily.

You are speaking from your personal opinion not based on previous & present events.
Before the Talibans agreed to come to the negotiation table, US dealt a severe blow to the Haqqani rebels presently reinforcing the Talibans, so the US has proved all that has to be proven fire power wise.
The real issue presently is that the fight is getting unpopular at home & there are no serious objective left so what are they supposed to fight for?
The US simply no longer wants to fight not that they can't win, there is no objective left, there is no political, economic or other strategic objective left there.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 10:13am On Apr 06, 2020
‪PHOTONEWS: Chadian President Visits Injured Troops In Baga-Sola Near Lake Chad To Boost Their Morale After Killing Boko Haram Terrorists ‬

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 10:17am On Apr 06, 2020
neyobills:



US is Iswap biggest enemy however they do not owe Nigeria any obligation to share,intel with us since we can as well build our drone base and they are not stopping us at least even if there is corruption its our internal problem and wont meddle into anything thats not affecting their foreign policies,the reason for the US bases in Niger is Uraniam deposits.

I totally commend the Tchadian Army for the offensive they are about the best in guerilla warfare in Africa so im not surprised however it should not be an avenue to bash the NA,even tho they have their downsides however they must have recovered way more ammunition cache from BHT besides its a MNJTF op which is commanded by a Nigerian so we can be,more than sure NA boots and assets were on ground in the offensive and its not yet eureka for Tchad too anyway so we totally need to grow up and cut the NA some slack sometimes.

The weapon cache doesnt looks like NA ammo IMO most probably spills from Mali or Libya maybe.

The Nigerian army has done far more than this PR bravado we are seeing from the Tchadian army.

We see almost daily photos and videos of Nigerian military operations.

But trust Nigerians to apply selective amnesia.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 10:19am On Apr 06, 2020
[quote author=kabe1 post=88147535]

I agree that military operations should be coordinated from DHQ.

It seems as though each individual service has it's own running mission, running concurrently with the general military operations in the North East.

I also agree on your comment on the theater commander. I think one of the major issues we have is an insufficient number of air platforms.

I am also of the opinion that the army needs to quickly stand up it's own air arm.

Also the air force needs to get it's remaining MI-35m helicopters. Last I read, they have all been built.

Nigeria has not completed payment for them.


Like we say here may the good Lord help us. One thing I know is that in this war, time is of an excess.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 10:20am On Apr 06, 2020
jpphilips:


You are speaking from your personal opinion not based on previous & present events.
Before the Talibans agreed to come to the negotiation table, US dealt a severe blow to the Haqqani rebels presently reinforcing the Talibans, so the US has proved all that has to be proven fire power wise.
The real issue presently is that the fight is getting unpopular at home & there are no serious objective left so what are they supposed to fight for?
The US simply no longer wants to fight not that they can't win, there is no objective left, there is no political, economic or other strategic objective left there.

OK, then let's talk facts.

No point in making personal opinions.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 10:24am On Apr 06, 2020
jpphilips:


You are speaking from your personal opinion not based on previous & present events.
Before the Talibans agreed to come to the negotiation table, US dealt a severe blow to the Haqqani rebels presently reinforcing the Talibans, so the US has proved all that has to be proven fire power wise.
The real issue presently is that the fight is getting unpopular at home & there are no serious objective left so what are they supposed to fight for?
The US simply no longer wants to fight not that they can't win, there is no objective left, there is no political, economic or other strategic objective left there.

U.S. officials constantly said they were making progress. They were not, and they knew it, an exclusive Post investigation found.

A trove of government documents obtained by The Washington Post reveals that senior U.S. officials failed to tell the truth about the war in Afghanistan throughout the 18-year campaign, making rosy pronouncements they knew to be false and hiding unmistakable evidence the war had become unwinnable.


"[b]We were devoid of a fundamental understanding of Afghanistan — we didn’t know what we were doing,” [/b]Douglas Lute, a three-star Army general who served as the White House’s Afghan war czar during the Bush and Obama administrations, told government interviewers in 2015. He added: “What are we trying to do here? We didn’t have the foggiest notion of what we were undertaking.”

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 10:26am On Apr 06, 2020
jpphilips:


You are speaking from your personal opinion not based on previous & present events.
Before the Talibans agreed to come to the negotiation table, US dealt a severe blow to the Haqqani rebels presently reinforcing the Talibans, so the US has proved all that has to be proven fire power wise.
The real issue presently is that the fight is getting unpopular at home & there are no serious objective left so what are they supposed to fight for?
The US simply no longer wants to fight not that they can't win, there is no objective left, there is no political, economic or other strategic objective left there.

Since 2001, more than 775,000 U.S. troops have deployed to Afghanistan, many repeatedly. Of those, 2,300 died there and 20,589 were wounded in action, according to Defense Department figures.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 10:26am On Apr 06, 2020
bidexiii:


1) the problem is our top brass are still doing stuffs the same old way not learning from there past mistakes and they want to get results.
Why not something more stealthy that can report enemy positions during clearing/mopping up operations and if there is any need to call in an air strike. It takes less than minutes for air assets to reach anywhere in Borno or the North east theatre. The army needs her own close in air support for there own operations, we can leave deep air interdictions for the airforce.
I have always ask where is the air force in scenarios like Gorgi The airlord is doing well but much is needed in such tactical scenarios.

2) Other arms of the military are involved in the COIN in the northeast, even the NPF are not left out. But in terms of equipment support they can do much better.
Sometimes I wonder if it's lack of patriotism or just plain wickedness how come s nation has spent so much training people to become Generals and they can't give their all to serve the nation in return. This war needs to end and it is not impossible.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 10:29am On Apr 06, 2020
jpphilips:


You are speaking from your personal opinion not based on previous & present events.
Before the Talibans agreed to come to the negotiation table, US dealt a severe blow to the Haqqani rebels presently reinforcing the Talibans, so the US has proved all that has to be proven fire power wise.
The real issue presently is that the fight is getting unpopular at home & there are no serious objective left so what are they supposed to fight for?
The US simply no longer wants to fight not that they can't win, there is no objective left, there is no political, economic or other strategic objective left there.

With most speaking on the assumption that their remarks would not become public, U.S. officials acknowledged that their warfighting strategies were fatally flawed

Several of those interviewed described explicit and sustained efforts by the U.S. government to deliberately mislead the public. They said it was common at military headquarters in Kabul — and at the White House — to distort statistics to make it appear the United States was winning the war when that was not the case.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 10:39am On Apr 06, 2020
jpphilips:


You are speaking from your personal opinion not based on previous & present events.
Before the Talibans agreed to come to the negotiation table, US dealt a severe blow to the Haqqani rebels presently reinforcing the Talibans, so the US has proved all that has to be proven fire power wise.
The real issue presently is that the fight is getting unpopular at home & there are no serious objective left so what are they supposed to fight for?
The US simply no longer wants to fight not that they can't win, there is no objective left, there is no political, economic or other strategic objective left there.

Like you said based on your own opinion !
Stop deceiving yourself, [/b]“US simply no longer wants to fight not that they can’t win”.[b] where did you get that from or who told you that, infact the US loves to fight war and flex there muscles and it’s in there DNA to fight and history is there to show it.
When the French left Vietnam the US took over to flex there muscles, we all know what happen last last, they withdrew there troops it was a stalemate. Same thing is happening in the Middle East the Russian couldn’t defeat the mujahideen, backed by the United States now the Russians where tired and left. The same thing is happening to the US, they want to make peace with every terrorist there once sponsored.
Infact the Americans & NATO are making the Middle East worst by the day including Lydia, it’s becoming worst by the day even an unstable mind knows that with all there super power.

Dude war is not a game the Americans are tired and have reached there “diminishing law of return” ? Over 18 years and still on battling terrorism globally. Sure some politicians and war mongers, defense contractors wouldn’t want an end to these dirty wars.
But the soldiers who risks the odds are fucking tired

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 10:39am On Apr 06, 2020
kabe1:
Not taking anything away from the Chadian army, but PR stunts like what we have seen from Idris Deby does not qualify as victory over BHT.

Before slamming the Nigerian military, let us remember that the Nigerian Air Force conducts almost daily bombing of BHT with more dead BHT than what the Chadians are showing.

This is a fact.

20 dead BHT doesn't signal the end of Boko-Haram.

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 10:40am On Apr 06, 2020
kabe1:


We are not losing. South-Africa spent 28 years in Angola fighting terrorists.

Syrian civil war has gone on for 9 years despite heavy Russian involvement.

Nigerian army suffered losses in an ambush to BHT, but we have successfully degraded BHT to carrying out hit and run in isolated areas.

That's hardly a victory


God bless you bro

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