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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 12:37pm On Apr 07, 2020
The admittance of FAILURE is the beginning OF SUCCESS. As you are able to address your shortcomings, gaps, inadequacies and strive for Success.

The denial of failure when you have failed is continued FAILURE. It will result in the enthronment of mediocrity as competence.

Does anybody here think that the Chadians are better equipped than the NA ❓ I noticed that the Chadians soldiers don't even have body armour, but are unflinching in the face of the battle.

What's the difference between the NA and the Chadian army ❓❓

It's difficult to make self- assessment yourself because you will be most likely be hopelessly biased.

When Nigerian soldiers went to Mali during the French led operation Serval. They were left to do guard duty the reports about our soldiers and thier lack of capacity were not flattering.

The external examination of our military over the past years by informed would be partners and the outside world has not been good on all fronts.

On the other hand the reports about the Chadians soldiers has been almost legendary they were in the thick of the fight. Reports about Chadian soldiers as the desert warriors of Africa have continued almost unabated. They have earned respect and world wide acclaim.

We seem to rely on past glories of decades ago with regards to the NA. We talk about Ecomog in Liberia and Sierra Leone.

In management one persons competence and outstanding ability exposes the ineptitude and incompetence of another.

Idriss Déby has by his competence exposed our ineptitude and incompetence, very sad but a bitter truth.

Will we NOW wake up accept our failing and stop sweeping our incompetence under the carpet address them and pursue progression to address this rot.

How then do we move forward to victory having accepted our failings.
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 12:44pm On Apr 07, 2020
Toju200:
ok safe journey but the chadians pulled a Daredevil stunt that almost cost them their life and u know that

It's not a daredevil stunt.

If done properly it's a measured concise approach to neutralise the enemy. It's what real soldiers do, attack the enemy.

They don't hide, bunker down and expend ammunition shooting non existent targets with reckless abandon with near zero impact. Thinking they will run away. Then we will claim we have repelled the enemy, a word that's used too often in our engagements.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by rka2: 2:16pm On Apr 07, 2020
komekn:
The admittance of FAILURE is the beginning OF SUCCESS. As you are able to address your shortcomings, gaps, inadequacies and strive for Success.

The denial of failure when you have failed is continued FAILURE. It will result in the enthronment of mediocrity as competence.

Does anybody here think that the Chadians are better equipped than the NA ❓ I noticed that the Chadians soldiers don't even have body armour, but are unflinching in the face of the battle.

What's the difference between the NA and the Chadian army ❓❓

It's difficult to make self- assessment yourself because you will be most likely be hopelessly biased.

When Nigerian soldiers went to Mali during the French led operation Serval. They were left to do guard duty the reports about our soldiers and thier lack of capacity were not flattering.

The external examination of our military over the past years by informed would be partners and the outside world has not been good on all fronts.

On the other hand the reports about the Chadians soldiers has been almost legendary they were in the thick of the fight. Reports about Chadian soldiers as the desert warriors of Africa have continued almost unabated. They have earned respect and world wide acclaim.

We seem to rely on past glories of decades ago with regards to the NA. We talk about Ecomog in Liberia and Sierra Leone.

In management one persons competence and outstanding ability exposes the ineptitude and incompetence of another.

Idriss Déby has by his competence exposed our ineptitude and incompetence, very sad but a bitter truth.

Will we NOW wake up accept our failing and stop sweeping our incompetence under the carpet address them and pursue progression to address this rot.

How then do we move forward to victory having accepted our failings.
❓❓❓


Wow! That the Chadians had a successful engagement with ISIS/BH, albeit it was a joint MNJTF operation with NAF ISR assets and helos, now makes them Gods? So the fact they lost over 90 troops is swept away and a photo opportunity by Mr Deby now qualifies him as a hero?

The fact that a lot of the islands were in Chad didn't matter at all and the successes of the NA in killing lots of BH/ISIS fighters in the past, not to talk of the various videos of the NAF blowing up BHT/ISIS ammunition dumps don't matter because we don't have NA soldiers laying over the ammunition in vogue style?

A lot of folk would laugh and say "lies" whenever the Armed Forces have bad a successful operation but any thing foreign is "true".

You have people with different agendas on this thread from a certain faction that can never see anything good, to people of a certain political affiliation to also people determined to spread misinformation.

Every country has faults and problems waging a war and there will be set-backs as well as victories.

The NAF for one is vastly under-equipped and the entire inventory isn't even enough to wage a sustained war in the NE not to talk of the different theatres they are currently operating in. For those asking where the air force is when troops are attacked, you do know that you need a FAC/JTAC with every patrol/base who can co-ordinate with pilots in the heat of battle as the pilots can't differentiate between friend or foe from up high? Ask the pilots in the Rann incident.

An SU-25 won't make much of a difference if there is nobody on the ground to co-ordinate with unless there is a clear gap between friend & foe. You will need a hell of a lot of assets to be able to sustain helos/fighters for every engagement taking into account downtime, training etc. If you utilise all your assets at once, you will end up with nothing operational further down the line.

The Tucano will help a lot because of its advanced avionics/weapons and the fact it can loiter for over 8 hours with ISR capabilities even after expending its weapons.

I have no interest in politics and you guys who vote can choose your leaders and they are a reflection of society. I only care for the Armed Forces whoever us in charge and it is quite disheartening to see people being so disrespectful to the Armed Forces and indeed the country because of selfish interests.

You have no other country. Carry on.


https://t.guardian.ng/news/nigerian-army-destroys-iswap-camp-at-tumbun-fulani-in-northern-borno/

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 2:48pm On Apr 07, 2020
rka2:


Wow! That the Chadians had a successful engagement with ISIS/BH, albeit it was a joint MNJTF operation with NAF ISR assets and helos, now makes them Gods? So the fact they lost over 90 troops is swept away and a photo opportunity by Mr Deby now qualifies him as a hero?

The fact that a lot of the islands were in Chad didn't matter at all and the successes of the NA in killing lots of BH/ISIS fighters in the past, not to talk of the various videos of the NAF blowing up BHT/ISIS ammunition dumps don't matter because we don't have NA soldiers laying over the ammunition in vogue style?

A lot of folk would laugh and say "lies" whenever the Armed Forces have bad a successful operation but any thing foreign is "true".

You have people with different agendas on this thread from a certain faction that can never see anything good, to people of a certain political affiliation to also people determined to spread misinformation.

Every country has faults and problems waging a war and there will be set-backs as well as victories.

The NAF for one is vastly under-equipped and the entire inventory isn't even enough to wage a sustained war in the NE not to talk of the different theatres they are currently operating in. For those asking where the air force is when troops are attacked, you do know that you need a FAC/JTAC with every patrol/base who can co-ordinate with pilots in the heat of battle as the pilots can't differentiate between friend or foe from up high? Ask the pilots in the Rann incident.

An SU-25 won't make much of a difference if there is nobody on the ground to co-ordinate with unless there is a clear gap between friend & foe. You will need a hell of a lot of assets to be able to sustain helos/fighters for every engagement taking into account downtime, training etc. If you utilise all your assets at once, you will end up with nothing operational further down the line.

The Tucano will help a lot because of its advanced avionics/weapons and the fact it can loiter for over 8 hours with ISR capabilities even after expending its weapons.

I have no interest in politics and you guys who vote can choose your leaders and they are a reflection of society. I only care for the Armed Forces whoever us in charge and it is quite disheartening to see people being so disrespectful to the Armed Forces and indeed the country because of selfish interests.

You have no other country. Carry on.


https://t.guardian.ng/news/nigerian-army-destroys-iswap-camp-at-tumbun-fulani-in-northern-borno/

It is mad incredible. Completely saddening.

People on here, come on a pass utter disinformation, with others cheering them on.

The Nigerian military releases videos, pictures and press releases almost on a daily basis.

Yet, Nigerians, especially some people in this thread a blind to that and instead are more interested in spreading lies and falsehood.

The Nigerian army despite a number of setbacks has shown tremendous success in the first against terrorism.

Chad killing 20 Boko-Haram and uncovering arms although commendable pails in comparison to what the Nigerian military has done and continues to do in the NE.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 3:01pm On Apr 07, 2020
rka2:


[/b]Wow! That the Chadians had a successful engagement with ISIS/BH, albeit it was a joint MNJTF operation with NAF ISR assets and helos, now makes them Gods? So the fact they lost over 90 troops is swept away and a photo opportunity by Mr Deby now qualifies him as a hero?[b]

The fact that a lot of the islands were in Chad didn't matter at all and the successes of the NA in killing lots of BH/ISIS fighters in the past, not to talk of the various videos of the NAF blowing up BHT/ISIS ammunition dumps don't matter because we don't have NA soldiers laying over the ammunition in vogue style?

A lot of folk would laugh and say "lies" whenever the Armed Forces have bad a successful operation but any thing foreign is "true".

[/b]You have people with different agendas on this thread from a certain faction that can never see anything good, to people of a certain political affiliation to also people determined to spread misinformation.[b]

Every country has faults and problems waging a war and there will be set-backs as well as victories.

The NAF for one is vastly under-equipped and the entire inventory isn't even enough to wage a sustained war in the NE not to talk of the different theatres they are currently operating in. For those asking where the air force is when troops are attacked, you do know that you need a FAC/JTAC with every patrol/base who can co-ordinate with pilots in the heat of battle as the pilots can't differentiate between friend or foe from up high? Ask the pilots in the Rann incident.

[/b]An SU-25 won't make much of a difference if there is nobody on the ground to co-ordinate with unless there is a clear gap between friend & foe. You will need a hell of a lot of assets to be able to sustain helos/fighters for every engagement taking into account downtime, training etc. If you utilise all your assets at once, you will end up with nothing operational further down the line. [b]

The Tucano will help a lot because of its advanced avionics/weapons and the fact it can loiter for over 8 hours with ISR capabilities even after expending its weapons.

I have no interest in politics and you guys who vote can choose your leaders and they are a reflection of society. I only care for the Armed Forces whoever us in charge and it is quite disheartening to see people being so disrespectful to the Armed Forces and indeed the country because of selfish interests.

You have no other country. Carry on.


https://t.guardian.ng/news/nigerian-army-destroys-iswap-camp-at-tumbun-fulani-in-northern-borno/


What’s your favorite bear , abeg shower this guy!

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 3:02pm On Apr 07, 2020
kabe1:


It is mad incredible. Completely saddening.

People on here, come on a pass utter disinformation, with others cheering them on.

The Nigerian military releases videos, pictures and press releases almost on a daily basis.

Yet, Nigerians, especially some people in this thread a blind to that and instead are more interested in spreading lies and falsehood.

The Nigerian army despite a number of setbacks has shown tremendous success in the first against terrorism.

Chad killing 20 Boko-Haram and uncovering arms although commendable pails in comparison to what the Nigerian military has done and continues to do in the NE.

God bless you

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 3:21pm On Apr 07, 2020
rka2:


Wow! That the Chadians had a successful engagement with ISIS/BH, albeit it was a joint MNJTF operation with NAF ISR assets and helos, now makes them Gods? So the fact they lost over 90 troops is swept away and a photo opportunity by Mr Deby now qualifies him as a hero?

The fact that a lot of the islands were in Chad didn't matter at all and the successes of the NA in killing lots of BH/ISIS fighters in the past, not to talk of the various videos of the NAF blowing up BHT/ISIS ammunition dumps don't matter because we don't have NA soldiers laying over the ammunition in vogue style?

A lot of folk would laugh and say "lies" whenever the Armed Forces have bad a successful operation but any thing foreign is "true".

You have people with different agendas on this thread from a certain faction that can never see anything good, to people of a certain political affiliation to also people determined to spread misinformation
.

Every country has faults and problems waging a war and there will be set-backs as well as victories.

The NAF for one is vastly under-equipped and the entire inventory isn't even enough to wage a sustained war in the NE not to talk of the different theatres they are currently operating in. For those asking where the air force is when troops are attacked, you do know that you need a FAC/JTAC with every patrol/base who can co-ordinate with pilots in the heat of battle as the pilots can't differentiate between friend or foe from up high? Ask the pilots in the Rann incident.

An SU-25 won't make much of a difference if there is nobody on the ground to co-ordinate with unless there is a clear gap between friend & foe. You will need a hell of a lot of assets to be able to sustain helos/fighters for every engagement taking into account downtime, training etc. If you utilise all your assets at once, you will end up with nothing operational further down the line.

The Tucano will help a lot because of its advanced avionics/weapons and the fact it can loiter for over 8 hours with ISR capabilities even after expending its weapons.

I have no interest in politics and you guys who vote can choose your leaders and they are a reflection of society. I only care for the Armed Forces whoever us in charge and it is quite disheartening to see people being so disrespectful to the Armed Forces and indeed the country because of selfish interests.

You have no other country. Carry on.


https://t.guardian.ng/news/nigerian-army-destroys-iswap-camp-at-tumbun-fulani-in-northern-borno/

In an attrition war such as we have in the SE.

Air assets will not get you over riding advantage, ask the USA with regards to Iraq and Afghanistan.

The first casualty of war is the TRUTH.

What's your agenda❓

I am not sure what your point is.

But we have had the Governor of Borno state, the Senators essentially the peoples representatives stand up in the national assembly. And they have given a very dire picture of what's happening on the ground in the SE. Are they not being truthful

If we are to believe the NA and it's version Boko are technically defeated and near non existent. Not too long ago citizens were butchered like chickens by Boko when the gates to the city were locked and they were denied access. The reports of Villages being over run over by Boko are never ending.

Irrespective of the size of Sambisa how long have Boko made it thier home, yet they remain without being uprooted.

It seems you wish to deny the hard facts and truth in your misplaced definition of patriotism.

I have watched contributors here almost labelled Boko sympathisers and or unpatriotic for telling the truth or given an opinion that doesn't paint the NA in bright colours.

Your approach seemingly belittles the achievements of the Chadians forces but why ❓
This Chadian army has done in a week what we haven't done, in l don't know how long.

You have conveniently forgotten when the Chadian army at our request came into Nigeria a few years ago and once again uprooted Boko in weeks and had to halt thier advance at our request.

To give things a more balanced and comprehensive view, l brought in the external examination of our forces by outside partners in comparison to the Chadians. When they were invited to Mali. The Chadians gave been given by the world never ending accolades for thier battle prowess.

But you forgot all that and made parochial deduction not looking at matters holistically. You are trying to justify the unjustifiable. And in that quest destroy the possibility of solutions to the problem.

What you are essentially is there is no problem here, it's very normal and acceptable.

I didn't expose the degeneration of our situation by making comparison between Chads President Idris and our own PMB. That would further show the depths to which we have fallen.

I asked questions for solutions, l reiterate is the Chadians army better equipped than the NA ❓

What's the difference between the NA and the Chadian army ❓

To encourage healthy discourse.

But you gave gone down a path of misguided indignation and wounded pride. That Sir, will.not solve the problem.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Habane(m): 3:23pm On Apr 07, 2020
After 3 years of visiting this thread, i finally see a picture with me inside. Kabe you just made my day.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 3:28pm On Apr 07, 2020
Habane:
After 3 years of visiting this thread, i finally see a picture with me inside.
Kabe you just made my day.

I'm glad to help. However I would prefer you stay anonymous, if indeed you are any of the soldiers in the above pictures.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 3:36pm On Apr 07, 2020
Nigerian made Ezugwu MRAP APC

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 3:38pm On Apr 07, 2020
This thread has made me to understand the basic truth about this war. grin grin

Thank you Komekn my 100% respect to you cool


Anyone here in Maiduguri? Make we do beer at Airforce Officers Mess

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 3:40pm On Apr 07, 2020
SamuelAnyawu:
This thread has made me to understand the basic truth about this war. grin grin

Thank you Komekn my 100% respect to you cool


Anyone here in Maiduguri? Make e do beer at Airforce Officers Mess
oga u don reach??!
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 3:44pm On Apr 07, 2020
Toju200:
oga u don reach??!


Yes oh bro. just that the Maiduguri heat no funny at all sad
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GabrielYulaw(m): 3:54pm On Apr 07, 2020
SamuelAnyawu:
This thread has made me to understand the basic truth about this war. grin grin

Thank you Komekn my 100% respect to you cool


Anyone here in Maiduguri? Make we do beer at Airforce Officers Mess

Understand what truth? I thought you had long understood it? grin

I agree in toto with what you say Komekn. Unfortunately, such truths are painful to the ears and some will do anything not to admit it. After all Dubai mansions must be bought and Abuja estates must be acquired.
Is the Chadian Army more equipped than us? Absolutely not. But is the Chadian army more respected than ours and more feared both locally and internationally? Absolutely yes. Why, our yearly defense budget is more than the entire budget of Chad. Facts like that is kind of frightening. This war is not ending anytime soon.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 4:00pm On Apr 07, 2020
GabrielYulaw:


Understand what truth? I thought you had long understood it? grin

I agree in toto with what you say Komekn. Unfortunately, such truths are painful to the ears and some will do anything not to admit it. After all Dubai mansions must be bought and Abuja estates must be acquired.
Is the Chadian Army more equipped than us? Absolutely not. But is the Chadian army more respected than ours and more feared both locally and internationally? Absolutely yes. Why, our yearly defense budget is more than the entire budget of Chad. Facts like that is kind of frightening. This war is not ending anytime soon.

I doubt if I have ever seen a Chadian self with a bullet proof vest or helmet.

Tho there is an AA Gun manned by two people I always see in Chadian convoy. I don't know the name of that gun. I also noticed they carry in their landruisers a kind of artillery that look like a 40 barrel Rocket launcher. Tho I don't know the name of that weapon as well.

All their cars carry not less than 3drums of diesel cheesy

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 4:05pm On Apr 07, 2020
BREAKING: Boko Haram Terrorists Burn Houses, Loot Shops In Adamawa Village | Sahara Reporters

A source told SaharaReporters that the terrorists in large numbers arrived the village in pickup vans and motorcycles at about 4:00pm.

READ MORE: https:///34hyHb4
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GabrielYulaw(m): 4:27pm On Apr 07, 2020
SamuelAnyawu:


I doubt if I have ever seen a Chadian self with a bullet proof vest or helmet.

Tho there is an AA Gun manned by two people I always see in Chadian convoy. I don't know the name of that gun. I also noticed they carry in their landruisers a kind of artillery that look like a 40 barrel Rocket launcher. Tho I don't know the name of that weapon as well.

All their cars carry not less than 3drums of diesel cheesy

40 barrel? You get time to count them all? grin I almost thought you were referring to a Type 63 MLRS, till you said 40 barrels. Ahh... just did some research. It is definitely a Type 63 variant. Google it and see.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 4:30pm On Apr 07, 2020
bidexiii:
BREAKING: Boko Haram Terrorists Burn Houses, Loot Shops In Adamawa Village | Sahara Reporters

A source told SaharaReporters that the terrorists in large numbers arrived the village in pickup vans and motorcycles at about 4:00pm.

READ MORE: https:///34hyHb4
Sahara reporters well done o..
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by rka2: 4:38pm On Apr 07, 2020
komekn:


In an attrition war such as we have in the SE.

Air assets will not get you over riding advantage, ask the USA with regards to Iraq and Afghanistan.

The first casualty of war is the TRUTH.

What's your agenda❓

I am not sure what your point is.

But we have had the Governor of Borno state, the Senators essentially the peoples representatives stand up in the national assembly. And they have given a very dire picture of what's happening on the ground in the SE. Are they not being truthful

If we are to believe the NA and it's version Boko are technically defeated and near non existent. Not too long ago citizens were butchered like chickens by Boko when the gates to the city were locked and they were denied access. The reports of Villages being over run over by Boko are never ending.

Irrespective of the size of Sambisa how long have Boko made it thier home, yet they remain without being uprooted.

It seems you wish to deny the hard facts and truth in your misplaced definition of patriotism.

I have watched contributors here almost labelled Boko sympathisers and or unpatriotic for telling the truth or given an opinion that doesn't paint the NA in bright colours.

Your approach seemingly belittles the achievements of the Chadians forces but why ❓
This Chadian army has done in a week what we haven't done, in l don't know how long.

You have conveniently forgotten when the Chadian army at our request came into Nigeria a few years ago and once again uprooted Boko in weeks and had to halt thier advance at our request.

To give things a more balanced and comprehensive view, l brought in the external examination of our forces by outside partners in comparison to the Chadians. When they were invited to Mali. The Chadians gave been given by the world never ending accolades for thier battle prowess.

But you forgot all that and made parochial deduction not looking at matters holistically. You are trying to justify the unjustifiable. And in that quest destroy the possibility of solutions to the problem.

What you are essentially is there is no problem here, it's very normal and acceptable.

I didn't expose the degeneration of our situation by making comparison between Chads President Idris and our own PMB. That would further show the depths to which we have fallen.

I asked questions for solutions, l reiterate is the Chadians army better equipped than the NA ❓

What's the difference between the NA and the Chadian army ❓

To encourage healthy discourse.

But you gave gone down a path of misguided indignation and wounded pride. That Sir, will.not solve the problem.

I have no agenda, just what is best for the Armed Forces and constructive criticism. Nobody will begrudge you that.

You gloat about Chad in Mali and you forget that they ran away after suffering casualties saying they weren't adept at this kind of warfare.

https://www.france24.com/en/20130415-chad-troops-withdraw-mali-president-deby-islamists

You ask why Nigerian troops were given little respect in Mali. You forget that Nigeria had come out of operations in Sierra Leone and Liberia with their stock very high, even with the limitations they had in theatre. Nigerian Armed Forces have a good reputation in peacekeeping missions as well.

Now, why do you think a strongly French influenced mission in Mali will then, for no justifiable reason, prevent Nigerian troops from engaging the terrorists in a forward position with the brief at that time they were I'll equipped even when that wasn't the case for that mission?

I haven't said there are no problems but please don't be naive and fail to understand the international politics that was at play in Mali.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by seankafor(m): 4:38pm On Apr 07, 2020
Toju200:
Sahara reporters well done o..
Sahara reporters is to Nigeria, what CNN is to trump..

One word.. anti government

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GabrielYulaw(m): 4:50pm On Apr 07, 2020
rka2:


I have no agenda, just what is best for the Armed Forces and constructive criticism. Nobody will begrudge you that.

You gloat about Chad in Mali and you forget that they ran away after suffering casualties saying they weren't adept at this kind of warfare.

https://www.france24.com/en/20130415-chad-troops-withdraw-mali-president-deby-islamists

You ask why Nigerian troops were given little respect in Mali. You forget that Nigeria had come out of operations in Sierra Leone and Liberia with their stock very high, even with the limitations they had in theatre. Nigerian Armed Forces have a good reputation in peacekeeping missions as well.

Now, why do you think a strongly French influenced mission in Mali will then, for no justifiable reason, prevent Nigerian troops from engaging the terrorists in a forward position with the brief at that time they were I'll equipped even when that wasn't the case for that mission?

I haven't said there are no problems but please don't be naive and fail to understand the international politics that was at play in Mali.

They ran away? Did we read the same article? The Chadians were in that article praised for being fierce fighters and instrumental in winning battles in Mali. Derby merely said he was pulling back his forces because he didn't want to fight a guerrilla war in Mali, where his troops would be fighting suicide bombers and the like. Perhaps the human and monetary cost of the war was getting too high for him.
I am not all that current on Nigerian peacekeeping missions, but if I remember correctly our troops were put on the front line in Mali first. They performed so poorly they were then assigned guard duties at the rear. I stand to be corrected.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 4:57pm On Apr 07, 2020
#RANDOM
#NA

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 5:03pm On Apr 07, 2020
Nigeria and Niger troops clear Boko-Haram terrorist.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 5:04pm On Apr 07, 2020
ARMED FORCES OF NIGERIA AND NIGERIEN TROOPS CLEAR BOKO HARAM/ISWAP ELEMENTS AT TUMBUN RAGO AND TUMBUN FULANI IN BORNO STATE

1. In continuation with the ongoing clearance operations in the North East Theatre of Operation, combined troops of 403 Special Forces Brigade Baga, Niger Republic Troops supported by Air Task Force of Operation LAFIYA DOLE had a fierce encounter with some Boko Haram/ISWAP elements at Kure village along Tumbun Rago and Tumbun Fulani general areas of Borno State on the 6th of April 2020.

2. Consequently, the terrorists were decisively dealt with during the encounter. The terrorists suffered heavy casualties and uncomfirmed number escaped with gun shot wounds. Some of the items recovered include;
One Gun Truck, One Anti Aircraft Gun, One Motorcycle. Others are One Light Machine Gun, One AK 47 Rifle and a magazine, Two Hundred and Twenty Seven (227) rounds of 12.7 mm ammunition and ten (10) rounds of 7.62 mm Special ammunition.

3. There was no casualty or equipment losses by the joint military forces.

4. Members of the public are once again requested to continue to cooperate and support the security forces with credible information that could aid/hasten the completion of the ongoing clearance operations.

You are please requested to disseminate this information and attach photographs of the operation through your media for the awareness of general public. Thank you for your usual support and cooperation.

BENARD ONYEUKO
Brigadier General
Acting Director
Defence Media Operations,
Defence Headquarters
7 APRIL 2020

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Habane(m): 5:05pm On Apr 07, 2020
kabe1:


I'm glad to help. However I would prefer you stay anonymous, if indeed you are any of the soldiers in the above pictures.
In this 21st century no one is "TRULY" anonymous.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 5:05pm On Apr 07, 2020
ARMED FORCES OF NIGERIA AND NIGERIEN TROOPS CLEAR BOKO HARAM/ISWAP ELEMENTS AT TUMBUN RAGO AND TUMBUN FULANI IN BORNO STATE

1. In continuation with the ongoing clearance operations in the North East Theatre of Operation, combined troops of 403 Special Forces Brigade Baga, Niger Republic Troops supported by Air Task Force of Operation LAFIYA DOLE had a fierce encounter with some Boko Haram/ISWAP elements at Kure village along Tumbun Rago and Tumbun Fulani general areas of Borno State on the 6th of April 2020.

2. Consequently, the terrorists were decisively dealt with during the encounter. The terrorists suffered heavy casualties and uncomfirmed number escaped with gun shot wounds. Some of the items recovered include;
One Gun Truck, One Anti Aircraft Gun, One Motorcycle. Others are One Light Machine Gun, One AK 47 Rifle and a magazine, Two Hundred and Twenty Seven (227) rounds of 12.7 mm ammunition and ten (10) rounds of 7.62 mm Special ammunition.

3. There was no casualty or equipment losses by the joint military forces.

4. Members of the public are once again requested to continue to cooperate and support the security forces with credible information that could aid/hasten the completion of the ongoing clearance operations.

You are please requested to disseminate this information and attach photographs of the operation through your media for the awareness of general public. Thank you for your usual support and cooperation.

BENARD ONYEUKO
Brigadier General
Acting Director
Defence Media Operations,
Defence Headquarters
7 APRIL 2020

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 5:07pm On Apr 07, 2020
komekn:
The admittance of FAILURE is the beginning OF SUCCESS. As you are able to address your shortcomings, gaps, inadequacies and strive for Success.

The denial of failure when you have failed is continued FAILURE. It will result in the enthronment of mediocrity as competence.

Does anybody here think that the Chadians are better equipped than the NA ❓ I noticed that the Chadians soldiers don't even have body armour, but are unflinching in the face of the battle.

What's the difference between the NA and the Chadian army ❓❓

It's difficult to make self- assessment yourself because you will be most likely be hopelessly biased.

When Nigerian soldiers went to Mali during the French led operation Serval. They were left to do guard duty the reports about our soldiers and thier lack of capacity were not flattering.

The external examination of our military over the past years by informed would be partners and the outside world has not been good on all fronts.

On the other hand the reports about the Chadians soldiers has been almost legendary they were in the thick of the fight. Reports about Chadian soldiers as the desert warriors of Africa have continued almost unabated. They have earned respect and world wide acclaim.

We seem to rely on past glories of decades ago with regards to the NA. We talk about Ecomog in Liberia and Sierra Leone.

In management one persons competence and outstanding ability exposes the ineptitude and incompetence of another.

Idriss Déby has by his competence exposed our ineptitude and incompetence, very sad but a bitter truth.

Will we NOW wake up accept our failing and stop sweeping our incompetence under the carpet address them and pursue progression to address this rot.

How then do we move forward to victory having accepted our failings.
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And the desert warrriorness just happened to walk into the desert when they lost 90+ soldiers?

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 5:09pm On Apr 07, 2020
komekn:


It's not a daredevil stunt.

If done properly it's a measured concise approach to neutralise the enemy. It's what real soldiers do, attack the enemy.

They don't hide, bunker down and expend ammunition shooting non existent targets with reckless abandon with near zero impact. Thinking they will run away. Then we will claim we have repelled the enemy, a word that's used too often in our engagements.
So we blame what happened on their own turf on dysentry?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 5:22pm On Apr 07, 2020
rka2:


I have no agenda, just what is best for the Armed Forces and constructive criticism. Nobody will begrudge you that.

You gloat about Chad in Mali
and you forget that they ran away after suffering casualties saying they weren't adept at this kind of warfare.

https://www.france24.com/en/20130415-chad-troops-withdraw-mali-president-deby-islamists

You ask why Nigerian troops were given little respect in Mali. You forget that Nigeria had come out of operations in Sierra Leone and Liberia with their stock very high, even with the limitations they had in theatre. Nigerian Armed Forces have a good reputation in peacekeeping missions as well.

Now, why do you think a strongly French influenced mission in Mali will then, for no justifiable reason, prevent Nigerian troops from engaging the terrorists in a forward position with the brief at that time they were I'll equipped even when that wasn't the case for that mission?

I haven't said there are no problems but please don't be naive and fail to understand the international politics that was at play in Mali.


I dont know your background and or life experiences.

You use the term very hurriedly "gloat" in a conclusive derisory way to imply that i take some sort of twisted delight in the misfortunes of the NA.

My diction is intrinsically clear, how can you deduce from all i have said the word gloat? You do not even attempt to answer or adress the constructive questions i have raised.

Yet in the same vein you claim to seek " Constructive Crticism"

There is a saying in Nigeria, " Dress as you want to be addressed" Now go back to 2013 then make a comparison between the equipment and men the Chadean armed forces presented for this mission. If i remember correctly we came for this offensive mission with one Otocar cobra LAV. As a consequence we were treated accordingly.

Going back to my Nigerian inspired adage, let me speak freely, " If u come party, dress like house boy, dem go direct you to go serve drink "

There was no international conspiracy , rather muted dissapointment, we came shamelessly equipped for guard duty and were promptly sent for that. To disgrace ourselves further soldiers were beging locals for food that they were starving.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/nov/05/nigerian-army-mali-mission-delayed

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/120000-exclusive-hardship-hits-nigerian-troops-in-mali-as-officers-solicit-food-from-locals.html

How many decades ago was Ecomog may I ask you ? Shockingly the larger chunk of that equpment is what we are still using today.

There are two assesments of the Nigerian army in ECOMOG a political one and a military one, the political one oustanding , with regards to the military one its a matter of who you ask. Nonethless, i felt the NA had done well.

You need to be more objective, have a more holiistic consideration when you look at matter and possibly increase your knowledge base.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 5:36pm On Apr 07, 2020
Odunayaw:
And the desert warrriorness just happened to walk into the desert when they lost 90+ soldiers?

Agreed 100% you completely get the point.

Comprehensive unacceptable falure imagine the "Desert Warriors" getting complacent and loosing 92 soldiers largest singular loos of sldiers in thier history. My view they lacked the mind set of other nations operating in that area, who would have run away.

But going back to my proposition that underpins my write up, FAILURE is the beginning of SUCCESS The response from the Chadeans was to address thier failure and respond with RESOUNDING COMPREHENSIVE SUCCCESS/ VICTORY. They even had the President Idris leading the deadly unforgiving response

The arms they captured just mind bogling, news reports have they even freed NA combatants.

Now the question is what will be the NA response , the Chadeans have raised the standard, can we now enter Sambisa and clear that plaace once and for all.

What do you think ?

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by BlackBaron: 5:37pm On Apr 07, 2020
There seems to be few Nigerian soldiers in this video below except we are encumbered by those at the top who want to be playing 'park the bus' against Boko Haram.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwrzRQTzlmM

There's other videos on youtube if you type in 'Tchadienne' and you restrict to videos posted this week. BH really got their ass whooped from videos I'm seeing!

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 5:42pm On Apr 07, 2020
How many of us remembers the time NA troops moved into Niger while fighting Bokoharam and Niger embarrased us publicly by saying our troops ran away from bokoharam and dropped their weapons?
Not debating wether their story was true or not but supposing it was true, what did they stand to gain from it? If they had been silent about the matter, would they have lost anything?
Point is, these france's proxy nations have always been finding all avenue to shame our military publicly. I wonder why that is.
Also wonder how the US kills terrorists groups commanders in drone strikes all over the world yet not a single strike from then on bokoharam commanders.

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