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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by ugo4u: 8:00pm On Apr 07, 2020
kabe1:


Chadians are the best in Desert warfare.

So how did Boko-Haram manage to kill 90 Chadian soldiers in a single attack?
That was the highest loss they've experienced in their history such things are bound to happen once in a while.
2 years ago the Chadians angrily withdrew their troops from Nigeria citing cowardice from our soldiers, Baba forget if it's desert warfare Nigeria no reach them.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 8:01pm On Apr 07, 2020
Toju200:
UPDATE: the attack yesterday was repelled BHT loss: Unknown number of Dead goats grin
Four GPMG and Two RPG recovery..

Good news
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 8:04pm On Apr 07, 2020
Sizzorkay:
Then i hope you get paid for it, because it's gonna be a full time job, and nothing will change.
So good luck with that.
Until BH or ISWAP invade Abuja and carry Buhari wife and daughter commot, na this same palava una go dey grin grin

If ISWAP had been hitting on our elites surely they would have been decimated.

For now the Elites are cashing out at the expense of our fine gallant soldiers in the trench

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 8:08pm On Apr 07, 2020
That's what i was saying yesterday or at least close to it.
If this hit close to home, like totally destroying our economy and major infrastructure and hitting those in power very closely, we would have seen a very different Nigerian Military, which is why i said we aren't serious about this, not because we don't have better capability than what is being shown

SamuelAnyawu:


If ISWAP had been hitting on our elites surely they would have been decimated.

For now the Elites are cashing out at the expense of our fine gallant soldiers in the trench
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 8:25pm On Apr 07, 2020
SamuelAnyawu:


I have seen a situation where ISWAP sent a message to a military base of an attack on a stated date. They came on that day and dislodged the military.

Chei !!!! I am very confused. WAHALA deh cry cry cry

Maybe you can explain.

I was listening to General Adeniyi report, he said there were three Battalions at that point.

That they had been out flanked by 8-10 gun trucks, that over 100 RPG's and Dame number of mortars had been shot at them.

Three Battalions should equate to at least 1500 soldiers, There were three General at the front of the battle with three MRAP'S leading the assault or hiding in defence.

How can 10 gun trucks hold 1500 men into a static position. The effective range of an RPG is about 300 metres at best. Anything over that and it's wildly inaccurate ( off target)

All the three MRAP's will have HMG didn't see. optics so it will be steel sights. So trying to hit a small target first shot at 400 metres will not be easy. But hitting a gun truck in at 500/600 metres even with steel sights, considering the higher elevation of the MRAP's should be plausible particularly if they keep breaking cover all around you.

Then foot soldiers dug into the ground should be able to engage. Yes those AK's don't have optics but they should still be able to hit the guys shooting the RPG's anytime they break cover to shoot. In addition we should have out own RPG'S to respond with.

I would expect that within these three Battalions there should be at least 10 snipers not neccesarily with high calibre rounds.

So how did they get so overwhelmed.

It's not making sense to me. Something is very wrong and it's not just the lack of equipment. It's very puzzling.

Compared to us Chad have literally a rag-tag army. They are using BMP1, they have no body armour. Don't have any MRAP's lots of gun trucks but nothing specail.

What's going on❓❓❓❓

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 8:40pm On Apr 07, 2020
How many areas are the Chadians defending? You guys keep bringing up Chad over and over again. If BH /ISWAP is spread over a certain region of chad as they are in Nigeria, chad at this point would have France providing massive support for them, because they do not have the resources to even sustain such fight for 6 months, let alone years.
So what Chad ( in my little opinion) has done is take the fight to the enemy in border areas of Nigeria, that's different from trying to defend so many positions, towns, cities and villages. If all Nigerian soldiers have to do on occasion is mass up and run up on BH without having to worry about anything else, then that would have been easier done as well.
We are comparing two different things here. Chad isn't a stronghold for BH or ISWAP, sadly Nigeria allowed them to have that stronghold on our soil.
Now switch Chad for Nigeria, and Chad would be in huge trouble, like i said, they won't even have what it takes to sustain the onslaught for 6 months, they don't have the resources for that.
And where did you get this report? from the video or statement the man published? any link?
I still think our soldiers seem to lack awareness, they tend to stroll about as if there are no enemies around.
See the other day when troops were massacred, and a soldier said they were sleeping or some sh!t, and go caught unaware, now imagine that, you are in a war zone, no look nothing, and you are surprised you got caught unaware.
Oh well, me, I'm not supporting the Govt, i only feel for these poor soldiers being led to slaughter by clueless leaders.
We have a country where people are busy saluting and not trying to offend, so instead of having a frank discussion, they simple take whatever little they are given and go to war half-cocked .
komekn:


Chei !!!! I am very confused. WAHALA deh cry cry cry

Maybe you can explain.

I was listening to General Adeniyi report, he said there were three Battalions at that point.

That they had been out flanked by 8-10 gun trucks, that over 100 RPG's and Dame number of mortars had been shot at them.

Three Battalions should equate to at least 1500 soldiers, There were three General at the front of the battle with three MRAP'S leading the assault or hiding in defence.

How can 10 gun trucks hold 1500 men into a static position. The effective range of an RPG is about 300 metres at best. Anything over that and it's wildly inaccurate ( off target)

All the three MRAP's will have HMG didn't see. optics so it will be steel sights. So trying to hit a small target first shot at 400 metres will not be easy. But hitting a gun truck in at 500/600 metres even with steel sights, considering the higher elevation of the MRAP's should be plausible particularly if they keep breaking cover all around you.

Then foot soldiers dug into the ground should be able to engage. Yes those AK's don't have optics but they should still be able to hit the guys shooting the RPG's anytime they break cover to shoot. In addition we should have out own RPG'S to respond with.

I would expect that within these three Battalions there should be at least 10 snipers not neccesarily with high calibre rounds.

So how did they get so overwhelmed.

It's not making sense to me. Something is very wrong and it's not just the lack of equipment. It's very puzzling.

Compared to us Chad have literally a rag-tag army. They are using BMP1, they have no body armour. Don't have any MRAP's lots of gun trucks but nothing specail.

What's going on❓❓❓❓

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by BlackBaron: 8:43pm On Apr 07, 2020
komekn:


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What's going on❓❓❓❓

Guy, I don't get this sniper thing especially with highly mobile enemies. High calibre anti materiel rifle on a highly fluid battlefield will do what exactly?
Its possible our troops are battle weary and unrotated. Heck, I would now like to see the children of the most powerful Nigerians getting rotated into the theatre, maybe then we'll see some traction.
As for those at the top, I think they've lost the initiative.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 8:46pm On Apr 07, 2020
I don't think it's about losing the initiative, they never had one to begin with, the conflict in the north is just a side thing to them, they don't take it as something major yet. In other words, lack of seriousness
BlackBaron:

Guy, I don't get this sniper thing especially with highly mobile enemies. High calibre anti materiel rifle on a highly fluid battlefield will do what exactly?
Its possible our troops are battle weary and unrotated. Heck, I would now like to see the children of the most powerful Nigerians getting rotated into the theatre, maybe then we'll see some traction.
As for those at the top, I think they've lost the initiative.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 8:57pm On Apr 07, 2020
Sizzorkay:
I don't think it's about losing the initiative, they never had one to begin with, the conflict in the north is just a side thing to them, they don't take it as something major yet. In other words, lack of seriousness

Sincerely bro Nigeria is not ready to end this war.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 9:03pm On Apr 07, 2020
ugo4u:

That was the highest loss they've experienced in their history such things are bound to happen once in a while.
2 years ago the Chadians angrily withdrew their troops from Nigeria citing cowardice from our soldiers, Baba forget if it's desert warfare Nigeria no reach them.

SamuelAnyawu:


They are Good bro cool Its painful but we cannot swallow the truth cool



komekn:


IMO they got complacent fell asleep, the worst singular loss in thier history.

Now it seems Boko have woken up.the sleeping Tiger � and it's bitten off thier head and ripping them to shreds.

So Boko have decided to run into Nigeria where they seem to think it's safe for them.

92 soldiers dead in a single attack is the highest tally for Chad, however we should also remember chad only started suffering Book Haram attacks in Chad in 2018.

I added the 36 soldiers Chad also lost in Mali in a single attack.

Where is the evidence that Chad has a better military, especially in dealing with Terrorism than Nigeria?

It's shameful that their are Nigerians supporting Chad over the Nigerian military because of a few PR stunts.

Chad: Boko Haram kills 23 soldiers in Dangdala attack

https://www.thedefensepost.com/2019/03/22/boko-haram-dangdala-chad-raid-gueskerou-niger/

The same day the Chadian army announced that it lost 36 soldiers during the three-month intervention in northern Mali and suffered another 74 wounded. In total the presence of Chadian soldiers in Mali costs the country 57 billion CFA francs (87 million).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chadian_intervention_in_northern_Mali

Boko Haram kills 92 Chadian soldiers in seven-hour attack

11 Chadian soldiers killed in Boko Haram attack: authorities

https://m.guardian.ng/news/world/11-chadian-soldiers-killed-in-boko-haram-attack-authorities/

Over 20 Chadian soldiers 'killed in Boko Haram raid'

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2019/03/20-chadian-soldiers-killed-boko-haram-raid-190322154007633.html

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 9:08pm On Apr 07, 2020
SamuelAnyawu:


Sincerely bro Nigeria is not ready to end this war.


Then what do you want to say about the war in the Middle East waging for over 18years, will you say the United States and her allies are not ready or serious to end the war. After all they have well equipped and modern army.
You people talk about fighting terrorism has if it’s a conventional war. Most of you guys here don’t have glimpse of what you’re saying.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 9:24pm On Apr 07, 2020
bidexiii:



Then what do you want to say about the war in the Middle East waging for over 18years, will you say the United States and her allies are not ready or serious to end the war. After all they have well equipped and modern army.
You people talk about fighting terrorism has if it’s a conventional war. Most of you guys here don’t have glimpse of what you’re saying.

Baba Nigeria is not serious about this war.

Haba Baba we are not kids na grin

Any little thing we console ourselves with middle East war.

You know the truth bro

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 9:33pm On Apr 07, 2020
SamuelAnyawu:


Baba Nigeria is not serious about this war.

Haba Baba we are not kids na grin

Any little thing we console ourselves with middle East war.

You know the truth bro

There is no truth anywhere.

Bidexiii has provided a sound argument, when don't you debate that with sound evidence of your own?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 9:40pm On Apr 07, 2020
komekn:


Chei !!!! I am very confused. WAHALA deh cry cry cry

Maybe you can explain.

I was listening to General Adeniyi report, he said there were three Battalions at that point.

That they had been out flanked by 8-10 gun trucks, that over 100 RPG's and Dame number of mortars had been shot at them.

Three Battalions should equate to at least 1500 soldiers, There were three General at the front of the battle with three MRAP'S leading the assault or hiding in defence.

How can 10 gun trucks hold 1500 men into a static position. The effective range of an RPG is about 300 metres at best. Anything over that and it's wildly inaccurate ( off target)

All the three MRAP's will have HMG didn't see. optics so it will be steel sights. So trying to hit a small target first shot at 400 metres will not be easy. But hitting a gun truck in at 500/600 metres even with steel sights, considering the higher elevation of the MRAP's should be plausible particularly if they keep breaking cover all around you.

Then foot soldiers dug into the ground should be able to engage. Yes those AK's don't have optics but they should still be able to hit the guys shooting the RPG's anytime they break cover to shoot. In addition we should have out own RPG'S to respond with.

I would expect that within these three Battalions there should be at least 10 snipers not neccesarily with high calibre rounds.

So how did they get so overwhelmed.

It's not making sense to me. Something is very wrong and it's not just the lack of equipment. It's very puzzling.

Compared to us Chad have literally a rag-tag army. They are using BMP1, they have no body armour. Don't have any MRAP's lots of gun trucks but nothing specail.

What's going on❓❓❓❓

Here's the general's complaint
Wrong Info
That was his major concern they where given a wrong tactics to follow and the enemy was able to Surround and pounce on them..
And that unit from what I saw where relentless How would you tell me they fired at you 100 RPG and Mortals and the general said they are still standing strong and are not running..
And according to him The airforce arrived and I believed they did cos the declassified footage of the providing CAS is on their twitter handle..
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 9:42pm On Apr 07, 2020
kabe1:


There is no truth anywhere.

Bidexiii has provided a sound argument, when don't you debate that with sound evidence of your own?

Oga we ain't serious about this war.

Anyway Ogas at the top must cashout and few individuals must always support.

Those who are angry with the way out top military brats and government are handling this war are not Enemies of Nigeria.

Brb make I finish my beer for NAF mess

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 9:45pm On Apr 07, 2020
SamuelAnyawu:


Baba Nigeria is not serious about this war.

Haba Baba we are not kids na grin

Any little thing we console ourselves with middle East war.

You know the truth bro

I asked you a question indirectly the first time and am now putting it to you had a question !
Will you say the United States and NATO are serious about the war in the Middle East for over 18years with all there military strength ?

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by ugo4u: 10:05pm On Apr 07, 2020
komekn:


Chei !!!! I am very confused. WAHALA deh cry cry cry

Maybe you can explain.

I was listening to General Adeniyi report, he said there were three Battalions at that point.

That they had been out flanked by 8-10 gun trucks, that over 100 RPG's and Dame number of mortars had been shot at them.

Three Battalions should equate to at least 1500 soldiers, There were three General at the front of the battle with three MRAP'S leading the assault or hiding in defence.

How can 10 gun trucks hold 1500 men into a static position. The effective range of an RPG is about 300 metres at best. Anything over that and it's wildly inaccurate ( off target)

All the three MRAP's will have HMG didn't see. optics so it will be steel sights. So trying to hit a small target first shot at 400 metres will not be easy. But hitting a gun truck in at 500/600 metres even with steel sights, considering the higher elevation of the MRAP's should be plausible particularly if they keep breaking cover all around you.

Then foot soldiers dug into the ground should be able to engage. Yes those AK's don't have optics but they should still be able to hit the guys shooting the RPG's anytime they break cover to shoot. In addition we should have out own RPG'S to respond with.

I would expect that within these three Battalions there should be at least 10 snipers not neccesarily with high calibre rounds.

So how did they get so overwhelmed.

It's not making sense to me. Something is very wrong and it's not just the lack of equipment. It's very puzzling.

Compared to us Chad have literally a rag-tag army. They are using BMP1, they have no body armour. Don't have any MRAP's lots of gun trucks but nothing specail.

What's going on❓❓❓❓

Listen to the video again, Gen Adeniyi said they were being pounded by 10-15 gun trucks from all flanks i.e at every turn like 10 gun trucks were waiting for them.
As for snipers you don't just deploy snipers to an already chaotic situation/volatile area without good/concealed firing spot.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by blacKDalia: 10:22pm On Apr 07, 2020
The back and forth here is like a broken record. Anyway, nothing is going to change soon and I will implore you guys to hold your breaths for something tangible. Let's go back to the basics, the kind of recruits and cadets we churn out from depot and NDA, reorientate and give the best of education on modern warfare, tactics et al. And see the difference. No be by "good to go". And you guys seriously think the authorities are interested in what we write here. Tsssk. If you like write a thesis, as long as it's not showing the loopholes on how to embezzle, OYO.
P. S Meanwhile, you guys shouldn't be too hard on each other. This place is just for fun.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by persius555(m): 10:34pm On Apr 07, 2020
Seems the Chadian onslaught is sending shiver down BH pants. Our CJTF ( Chibok branch) are taking their own pound of flesh. According to ManassehAllen on twitter

Kudos

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by persius555(m): 10:36pm On Apr 07, 2020
Kudos to the boys.

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Awoist(m): 10:46pm On Apr 07, 2020
Toju200:
Here's the general's complaint
Wrong Info
That was his major concern they where given a wrong tactics to follow and the enemy was able to Surround and pounce on them..
And that unit from what I saw where relentless How would you tell me they fired at you 100 RPG and Mortals and the general said they are still standing strong and are not running..
And according to him The airforce arrived and I believed they did cos the declassified footage of the providing CAS is on their twitter handle..
From the Airforce clip I only saw three ISWAP trucks and the Chopper demobilized only one. Something is wrong.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 10:47pm On Apr 07, 2020
Tchadienne forces in the early hours of Monday attacked a #BokoHaram Camp in Kindi mino in Niger Republique killing several Jihadists although several fighters were noticed to have left the camp before the Airstrike and the subsequent water and land attacks.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 10:48pm On Apr 07, 2020
A Malian Super Tucano Military plane few hours ago crashed in Sévare Mali killing two pilots onboard.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 10:54pm On Apr 07, 2020
bidexiii:


I asked you a question indirectly the first time and am now putting it to you had a question !
Will you say the United States and NATO are serious about the war in the Middle East for over 18years with all there military strength ?

You don't shit where you eat. undecided
With all due respect You think like the dummies in DHQ.
If iswap was playing in Americas back yard you know they won't survive a day
Talk less of America playing defense.
Stop comparing apples and oranges.
If you've seen combat like you claim then it saddens me seeing you reason like this.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Fynline(m): 11:10pm On Apr 07, 2020
Pls does anyone know who is behind the Twitter handle Defense Nigeria blog. The guy just dey subtly deceive ignorant Nigerians; uploading old pics without pointing out that they are old
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Kalapizim(m): 11:13pm On Apr 07, 2020
GabrielYulaw:


They ran away? Did we read the same article? The Chadians were in that article praised for being fierce fighters and instrumental in winning battles in Mali. Derby merely said he was pulling back his forces because he didn't want to fight a guerrilla war in Mali, where his troops would be fighting suicide bombers and the like. Perhaps the human and monetary cost of the war was getting too high for him.
I am not all that current on Nigerian peacekeeping missions, but if I remember correctly our troops were put on the front line in Mali first. They performed so poorly they were then assigned guard duties at the rear. I stand to be corrected.
Jonathan withdrew them back citing their need at home leaving just few behind.
From my gatherings the few left behind were left with little equipments and hardly venture outside the base so I don't know where all the rubbish talk of performing poorly is coming from.

Its our military I blame for coming out to put narratives
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 12:28am On Apr 08, 2020
That was uncalled for dude. Jeez
due respect while calling the man a slowpoke? smh

youngmoneypi:


You don't shit where you eat. undecided
With all due respect You think like the dummies in DHQ.
If iswap was playing in Americas back yard you know they won't survive a day
Talk less of America playing defense.
Stop comparing apples and oranges.
If you've seen combat like you claim then it saddens me seeing you reason like this.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by AskiaHarem(m): 2:56am On Apr 08, 2020
Salatavor:
how shameful, so while Chad was conducting this offensive the military was still waiting for BH to strike? Is there anyone of you here that still enjoy talking about the Nigerian Armed forces cus I sincerely don't. They were waiting for BH to strike? When they were supposed to be cutting down terrorist escaping from the Islands.

And then we have harrowing images of our soldiers promising harm on civilians.

And we see Generals complaining about equipments which we have been doing here for years, it today that we started clamouring against depending on soft skinned vehicle for this war.

Too many excuses have been given to explain incompetence in the Nigerian armed forces but Idris just made it clear that the war against BH is not necessary an expensive war, it is basically a war that can be won with determination, resolution and this clearly isn't the aim of the Nigerian side, the aim of the Nigerian side is to milk as much as possible from the war.

Dumb online generals giving excuses for incompetence and comparing BH to the larger global terror network really don't know what they are doing. BH is locally funded, locally supplied and locally sustained. We are not fighting a war against BH we are just defending ourselves and looting ourselves that is why BH is winning.

Facts tell a different story weakling ... grin

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Xbee007(m): 3:01am On Apr 08, 2020
Fynline:
Pls does anyone know who is behind the Twitter handle Defense Nigeria blog. The guy just dey subtly deceive ignorant Nigerians; uploading old pics without pointing out that they are old
He used to be on Nairaland.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by AskiaHarem(m): 3:09am On Apr 08, 2020
bidexiii:
A Malian Super Tucano Military plane few hours ago crashed in Sévare Mali killing two pilots onboard.

This is somehow Nigeria's fault as is every issue in the world.... cheesy grin grin grin

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by AskiaHarem(m): 3:12am On Apr 08, 2020
Whyem15:
How many of you remembered the geospatial intelligence data centre NAF commisioned last year? Is it that the people working there are using the resources to upload post on facebook or what?
Why did Chad have to involve Israel in mapping out the lake chad region before they could attack when Nigeria has the facilities too. Or was it just propaganda and we don't have anything?

Becuase TChad is a backwater french desert neo-colony grin
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by AskiaHarem(m): 3:15am On Apr 08, 2020
SamuelAnyawu:


No Neighboring Country will be ready to cooperate with Nigeria on this war. You want to cooperate with a country that is not ready to decimate these bastards?

There was an incidence that happened in April last year here in Monguno. ISWAP showed up in the night around 7pm screaming "Allahu Akbar" and firing into the air. Everywhere was cold here in Monguno for over an hour.

Everyone was waiting to see a military reinforcement. An hour later Chadian Soldiers rolled out from the Barracks in hot chase of these bastards towards Marte. That night the Chadians did not return as they camped in Marte LGA.

The next morning they brought three bodies of ISWAP members. From our rumour mills here, they complained that the Nigeria top military did not give them a go ahead to chase these guys on time.



Nigeria is surrounded by backwater French puppet Neo-Colonies field with zombies whos only meaning in existence is to feed France. I seek no cooperation with these nations thay should all just be annexed by Nigeria in the comming future when this insurgency is over. grin grin grin

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