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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by XhosaNostra(f): 9:17pm On Apr 07, 2020
jln115:
Just something for my fellow South Africans JaceBlaze, XhosaNostra, IronGalaxy...... Stay positive, stay safe and stay home!!

This however has no meaning to Lionessza6 who doesn't believe in something called an economy... And AmenhotepZuid jou Ma se poes!

South Africa might just get lucky

By Alan Knott-Craig (SA Author)

In February, our country was in bad shape.

Our stock market was over-heated.

We were heading for a recession.

We were heading for a downgrade.

And then Covid19 happened.

Our stock market collapsed.

We’re now in a recession.

We’ve now been downgraded.

Before Covid19, Cyril Ramaphosa was bogged down in ANC political in-fighting, and Eskom was load-shedding every week.

Cyril now has no political opposition, everyone is too busy scrambling to fight the pandemic.

Eskom has stopped load-shedding thanks to the national lockdown easing demand from businesses.

Before progressing, let’s acknowledge that it is possible that this is Armageddon.

Health, economic and political Armageddon. The end.

Millions could die. Millions could lose jobs. Political upheaval could ensue.

Ok, got that.

But it’s also possible that Covid19 is the best thing to happen to SA since the 2010 Soccer World Cup. South Africa sailed through the Global Financial Crisis thanks to the state-sponsored infrastructure projects for the 2010 World Cup.

We were lucky.

By some bizarre irony, our country’s ongoing battle against TB may just be lucky too.

It may just turn out that most South Africans are safe because it’s mandatory to have a Bacille Calmette-Guerin (BCG) vaccination when they are born to prevent life-threatening TB later on.

"We found that countries without universal policies of BCG vaccination, such as Italy, the Netherlands, and the United States, have been more severely affected compared to countries with universal and long-standing BCG policies," noted the researchers led by Gonzalo Otazu, assistant professor of biomedical sciences at NYIT.

Sounds pretty hopeful. And the early evidence confirms it.

Let’s compare Spain to Portugal.

Portugal forces BCG vaccinations at birth, Spain doesn’t.

As of 5 April 2020:

· Portugal: 10,524 cases, 266 deceased. 0,1% infection rate. 2,5% death rate.

· Spain: 126,128 cases, 34,219 deceased. 0,27% infection rate. 27% death rate.

Spaniards are almost 3x more likely to get Covid19, and 10x more likely to die.

India, like Portugal, administers the BCG vaccine to millions of children soon after birth to combat TB (tuberculosis). And like Portugal, Indian has seen a much lower infection rate, especially when you consider the higher risk of infection due to cramped living conditions and poverty.

And yet the USA, where there are no mandatory BCG vaccinations, has the highest number of infections, in spite of the USA’s being is 4x smaller, 28x richer and 13x less populated than India’s.

Thanks to South Africa’s mandatory BCG vaccination policy, we may just be less affected than many countries in the world.

We may just be able to end the national lockdown, and re-start the economy.

Ending the lockdown will benefit SA in seven ways:

1. Millions of jobs will be saved. Millions of families will be rescued from economic hardship.

2. Universal BCG vaccination gives our country a comparative advantage over countries that don’t, i.e.: all developed countries, and all developing countries that don’t have the systems and/or economic means to enforce mandatory vaccinations.

3. Cyril Ramaphosa can use the economic crisis as leverage to implement the much-needed structural economic reforms our country needs, without the ANC in-fighting that has previously hamstrung his efforts.

4. People have opened their eyes to the power of online education. No need to have the world’s best math teacher living in Butterworth. No need to print and deliver millions of textbooks. No matter where you live, you can have a world-class education (assuming you have affordable broadband).

5. Less flying and driving. Even the most hide-bound of executives have now been forced to telecommute. Turns out it ain’t so hard. Good for traffic. Good for the climate.

6. It means Eskom’s grid can take a breather whilst essential maintenance is carried out and IPP’s prepare for selling directly to customers, reducing our reliance on Eskom, ultimately creating a stronger and more resilient power grid.

7. It means the Moody and Fitch downgrades are pretty meaningless. Everyone is being downgraded.

Ending the national lockdown will be the best thing that our government can do to save our economy.

If the positive scenario pans out, South Africa will be the equivalent of a golfer hitting a duck hook into the water, ricocheting off a submerged rock, bouncing back to the green, and the ball coming to a rest three feet from the pin.

We may just be pretty damn lucky.

The whole world is in it together, but, by some miracle, SA might be the best place to be in it.

...

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 9:17pm On Apr 07, 2020
you know nothing kiddo
gallivant:


Subsistence farming is the beginning of poverty. tongue

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:18pm On Apr 07, 2020
Just30:
you know nothing kiddo Jon Snow
fixed
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 9:20pm On Apr 07, 2020
here with the introduction of improved seedlings
subsistence farmers have been able to move themselves out of poverty by a large extent.

And have even gone ahead to increase the size of their farms and mechanised.

The goal is to give the person a purpose.

The major problems with farmin has been post-harvest losses
Lionessza6:


By ending poverty you mean they have food to eat(most villagers in SA also don't lack food, they produce a lot of what they consume), or they are also making a living out of this practice ? I would love to hear more on this,you can recommend articles and all.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 9:21pm On Apr 07, 2020
grin grin grin grin

Jon Snow is too much a character for that dumb kid
jln115:
fixed
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Carmit(m): 9:21pm On Apr 07, 2020
Tempers Flaring every where I turn on this thread. grin

Man.. It's a war zone.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:23pm On Apr 07, 2020
Just30:
grin grin grin grin

Jon Snow is too much a character for that dumb kid
yeah not getting involved.... Just thought it was funny grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by BadBradley: 9:29pm On Apr 07, 2020
JaceBlaze:


You need to be creative than that,you pre historic afonja. cheesy


When was the last time electricity was on in your village? I'm sure the light bulbs in your shack are gathering dust grin

when a Zulu whose national hospital uses cell phone lights to conduct major operations talks like this, we know there's no home for his tribe.

These are people Africa fought for to come down from the tallest trees and steepest jungle in mpumalanga and he's claiming to be civilised. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Carmit(m): 9:31pm On Apr 07, 2020
BadBradley:
when a Zulu whose national hospital uses cell phone lights to conduct major operations talks like this, we know there's no home for his tribe.

These are people Africa fought for to come down from the tallest trees and steepest jungle in mpumalanga and he's claiming to be civilised. grin
Maan.... grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 9:32pm On Apr 07, 2020
i got you grin grin
jln115:
yeah not getting involved.... Just thought it was funny grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 9:33pm On Apr 07, 2020
A lockdown can be really fun

No more honking from cars

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 9:37pm On Apr 07, 2020
like all these cars will be making noise

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx1: 9:37pm On Apr 07, 2020
#Just for Fun

Do not trespass, property of Government of Ghana

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 9:46pm On Apr 07, 2020
forgiveness:


Lebanese are not in the top 100 richest in Nigeria. Take that to the bank. cool

How much do you have in the bank, that's the big question here.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 9:48pm On Apr 07, 2020
jln115:
Edo looks very Chinese looking.... Including the people grin grin grin grin

I mean they even had samurai swords in Edo!!!

P.s please don't turn into Samorobo claiming other countries things as your own!!

Haha. To be fair Edo sounds Japanese.

grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 10:03pm On Apr 07, 2020
Kwadaso

these village properties
hmm

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 10:04pm On Apr 07, 2020
gallivant:


How much do you have in the bank, that's the big question here.

How does it concerns you? Are you a yahoo yahoo boy? grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 10:12pm On Apr 07, 2020
forgiveness:


How does it concerns you? Are you a yahoo yahoo boy? grin

I am not the one always mentioning and complaining about private individuals wealth, white or black. Don't try to be sneaky, you are not good at it.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 10:14pm On Apr 07, 2020
jln115:

As I said I need to see Edo Nigeria first then I can compare.....now stop stealing the infastructure of other countries then claim it as your own!

Show me a picture of Edo Nigeria then I can compare

Is Edo city in that picture same with Kraal? I only asked you a simple question. grin

All those things you wrote are inconsequential. Just answer the dam question. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 10:15pm On Apr 07, 2020
gallivant:


I am not the one always mentioning and complaining about private individuals wealth, white or black. Don't try to be sneaky, you are not good at it.

Because you an Indian benefiting from Kenyans. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 10:17pm On Apr 07, 2020
forgiveness:


Because you an Indian benefiting from Kenyans. grin

You are not making sense. Please don't bother explaining.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:27pm On Apr 07, 2020
forgiveness:


Is Edo city in that picture same with Kraal? I only asked you a simple question. grin

All those things you wrong are inconsequential. Just answer the dam question. grin
That's not Edo city Nigeria mate............so it absolutely has zero relevance comparing the 2.

Now show me Edo Nigeria grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 10:34pm On Apr 07, 2020
jln115:
That's not Edo city Nigeria mate............so it absolutely has zero relevance comparing the 2.

Now show me Edo Nigeria grin

Answer simple question and stop dodging. Oh! Your usual bias or should I say racist mentality wouldn't want to rate a city out of Africa, right? grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza6(f): 10:35pm On Apr 07, 2020
jln115:

You don't have to "believe" I live in the Garden route..... I've stated several times very clearly that I Live in Mossel Bay wink

Do you know what you are Mrs Lioness? You are an embarrassment to us South Africans who just want to live our lives in a prosperous none racial society, you and your BLF are just the Black version of the AWB, luckily just like the AWB you are insignificant, nothing more than a laughing stock that couldn't even get the same amount of votes as the likes on your FB page!

And I don't need my "Dog walker" (is that even a thing?) to translate for me.....i got Google translate to do that..... But here something you can go translate yourself jy en jou BLF maatjies kan maar op die trienspoor gan speel poplap!!


LMFAO, you are one confused fellow; 1st I was a Zupta stooge ,next you called me an employee of some firm ...forgot thr name. Next I was a CiC girl, now I'm a full BLF member ? grin grin. Thixo! What's next ,PAC or ATM ? grin. Don't confuse yourself little man. LMFAO, use those non racial slogans on idiots who actually believe in " equality for all" grin in the most unequal shythole in the world ,I'm sure they would love to hear ur comforting words,I am the wrong audience grin.

I thought it was George,now its Mossel Bay? grin. Let's hope you are not one of the mercenaries stationed there ,I wouldn't to be shot grin. And btw ,I think I read somewhere that you EXPECTED south Africans to think or see things a certain way ...or something like that . Ucinga ungubani na msunu webhulu . Rha sies.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza6(f): 10:38pm On Apr 07, 2020
Just30:
here with the introduction of improved seedlings
subsistence farmers have been able to move themselves out of poverty by a large extent.

And have even gone ahead to increase the size of their farms and mechanised.

The goal is to give the person a purpose.

The major problems with farmin has been post-harvest losses


Ok then,this is what normal villagers in SA are faced with too.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza6(f): 10:51pm On Apr 07, 2020
jln115:
Just something for my fellow South Africans JaceBlaze, XhosaNostra, IronGalaxy...... Stay positive, stay safe and stay home!!

This however has no meaning to Lionessza6 who doesn't believe in something called an economy... And AmenhotepZuid jou Ma se poes!

South Africa might just get lucky

By Alan Knott-Craig (SA Author)

In February, our country was in bad shape.

Our stock market was over-heated.

We were heading for a recession.

We were heading for a downgrade.

And then Covid19 happened.

Our stock market collapsed.

We’re now in a recession.

We’ve now been downgraded.

Before Covid19, Cyril Ramaphosa was bogged down in ANC political in-fighting, and Eskom was load-shedding every week.

Cyril now has no political opposition, everyone is too busy scrambling to fight the pandemic.

Eskom has stopped load-shedding thanks to the national lockdown easing demand from businesses.

Before progressing, let’s acknowledge that it is possible that this is Armageddon.

Health, economic and political Armageddon. The end.

Millions could die. Millions could lose jobs. Political upheaval could ensue.

Ok, got that.

But it’s also possible that Covid19 is the best thing to happen to SA since the 2010 Soccer World Cup. South Africa sailed through the Global Financial Crisis thanks to the state-sponsored infrastructure projects for the 2010 World Cup.

We were lucky.

By some bizarre irony, our country’s ongoing battle against TB may just be lucky too.

It may just turn out that most South Africans are safe because it’s mandatory to have a Bacille Calmette-Guerin (BCG) vaccination when they are born to prevent life-threatening TB later on.

"We found that countries without universal policies of BCG vaccination, such as Italy, the Netherlands, and the United States, have been more severely affected compared to countries with universal and long-standing BCG policies," noted the researchers led by Gonzalo Otazu, assistant professor of biomedical sciences at NYIT.

Sounds pretty hopeful. And the early evidence confirms it.

Let’s compare Spain to Portugal.

Portugal forces BCG vaccinations at birth, Spain doesn’t.

As of 5 April 2020:

· Portugal: 10,524 cases, 266 deceased. 0,1% infection rate. 2,5% death rate.

· Spain: 126,128 cases, 34,219 deceased. 0,27% infection rate. 27% death rate.

Spaniards are almost 3x more likely to get Covid19, and 10x more likely to die.

India, like Portugal, administers the BCG vaccine to millions of children soon after birth to combat TB (tuberculosis). And like Portugal, Indian has seen a much lower infection rate, especially when you consider the higher risk of infection due to cramped living conditions and poverty.

And yet the USA, where there are no mandatory BCG vaccinations, has the highest number of infections, in spite of the USA’s being is 4x smaller, 28x richer and 13x less populated than India’s.

Thanks to South Africa’s mandatory BCG vaccination policy, we may just be less affected than many countries in the world.

We may just be able to end the national lockdown, and re-start the economy.

Ending the lockdown will benefit SA in seven ways:

1. Millions of jobs will be saved. Millions of families will be rescued from economic hardship.

2. Universal BCG vaccination gives our country a comparative advantage over countries that don’t, i.e.: all developed countries, and all developing countries that don’t have the systems and/or economic means to enforce mandatory vaccinations.

3. Cyril Ramaphosa can use the economic crisis as leverage to implement the much-needed structural economic reforms our country needs, without the ANC in-fighting that has previously hamstrung his efforts.

4. People have opened their eyes to the power of online education. No need to have the world’s best math teacher living in Butterworth. No need to print and deliver millions of textbooks. No matter where you live, you can have a world-class education (assuming you have affordable broadband).

5. Less flying and driving. Even the most hide-bound of executives have now been forced to telecommute. Turns out it ain’t so hard. Good for traffic. Good for the climate.

6. It means Eskom’s grid can take a breather whilst essential maintenance is carried out and IPP’s prepare for selling directly to customers, reducing our reliance on Eskom, ultimately creating a stronger and more resilient power grid.

7. It means the Moody and Fitch downgrades are pretty meaningless. Everyone is being downgraded.

Ending the national lockdown will be the best thing that our government can do to save our economy.

If the positive scenario pans out, South Africa will be the equivalent of a golfer hitting a duck hook into the water, ricocheting off a submerged rock, bouncing back to the green, and the ball coming to a rest three feet from the pin.

We may just be pretty damn lucky.

The whole world is in it together, but, by some miracle, SA might be the best place to be in it.


I heard somewhere that Cyril had up to the 22nd of March to sign for the IPP's the west and the DA are pushing down our throats .IPP'S That trump himself has put aside ,but he wants us to use them grin. I'm sure rama signed which was what the lockdown was about anyways ; more economic than health grin. I hope the vaccines will start in Clifton and not khayelitsha. There is more corona in samdton than Alex, we wouldn't want a repeat or the aids epidemic, where our " helpers " working with the CIA injected HIV on unsuspecting black SA.

I'm sure the openhemeirs and ruperts have also recovered all the money " lost" during the 9 wasted years grin. I mean RCL foods and jojo tanks made a killing with the drought and now "the lockdown " grin grin grin. Can we now be freed back to our rainbow shythole in peace grin.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:12pm On Apr 07, 2020
Lionessza6:


LMFAO, you are one confused fellow; 1st I was a Zupta stooge ,next you called me an employee of some firm ...forgot thr name. Next I was a CiC girl, now I'm a full BLF member ? grin grin. Thixo! What's next ,PAC or ATM ? grin. Don't confuse yourself little man. LMFAO, use those non racial slogans on idiots who actually believe in " equality for all" grin in the most unequal shythole in the world ,I'm sure they would love to hear ur comforting words,I am the wrong audience grin.

I thought it was George,now its Mossel Bay? grin. Let's hope you are not one of the mercenaries stationed there ,I wouldn't to be shot grin. And btw ,I think I read somewhere that you EXPECTED south Africans to think or see things a certain way ...or something like that . Ucinga ungubani na msunu webhulu . Rha sies.
Never called you a Gupta stooge, Never called you a Bell Potinger employee, never called you a CiC girl and the only reason i know you are a BLF supporter is because you told me yourself months ago wink

"non racial slogans on idiots who actually believe in " equality for all" grin in the most unequal shythole in the world" proves my point exactly!! you'd rather Tank the entire economy and let every body live in a sh1thole than implement economic policies that would create jobs and grow the economy........but since that would also make the Whitey richer, that would mean you can't have your sweet revenge! grin

I work in George and live in Mossel Bay, again i've said this several times wink

And no i never said anything about South Africans seeing things and thinking things a certain way, I said i expect South Africans to respond to each other with respect and dignity, even though I disagree with EWC, I still have always respected those with that opinion........ yes I have made counter arguments to EWC, however unlike you haven't hurled racial abuse to anybody on this thread(not Nigerian, not Ghanaians and certainly not at my own countrymen), even though you and Amenhotepzuid do it constantly to me!...... funny thing about it all is you will label me as the racist cool interesting!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:13pm On Apr 07, 2020
jln115:
I on't have time for your racist sh1t sweetheart, thus you can promptly fvckoff wink

The moment we see you back off from truth....

She has a point white boer grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:17pm On Apr 07, 2020
forgiveness:


Answer simple question and stop dodging. Oh! Your usual bias or should I say racist mentality wouldn't want to rate a city out of Africa, right? grin
Bro honestly? If you going the racial route then what's then point we even conversing anymore, I'm not Amenhotepzuid!!............It has nothing to do with racism and everything to do with relevance, we were comparing Nigeria to South Africa not Japan to South Africa!!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:33pm On Apr 07, 2020
Just30:
Fair

you should have believed it when we said the Kenyans have nothing hence why they keep repeating pictures of a 2km radius area

Trust me he knows...he has constantly complained about that Kenyan repititive character....he naturally just hate YZ because of kazikazi

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:48pm On Apr 07, 2020
AmenhotepZuid:
@aystin and xhosanostra we have a fake Boer who on nairaland who looksxand reasons like Tito Mboweni grin grin grin grin he desperately showed me a banana skin hand of a fellow passenger to prove his fake whiteness. kiss this is a guy who spends 24 hours on black topics.... grin grin

Lol what an idiot ;Dand you spend how many hours in black topic?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 12:25am On Apr 08, 2020
vaxx1:
kenya president prefer making 100 million shillings available from poor kenya tax cover to be distributed to their musician to keep entertaining Kenyans amidst the lockdown.



Lol so funny...what a country indeed

Rvp wtf

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