vaxx1: when Ghana is empowering her local industry, providing available soft loans to GHANAIAN, and equipping five different company to fully go into medical equipment amidst convid 19. your clown of president who can't not comes close to nana mentally is busy distributing 100 million shilling to your musicians just to entertain you idiots
Lol I do think know but this thing Kees cracking me up
LMFAO,I feel for you. How sure are you that the guy you quoted is a Nigerian? . Anyways,you are one of the few black people on this thread . You are surrounded by Meeners, Sirs& their servants...I believe they call themselves self critical blacks . Here is my advice to you if you want to be listened to on this thread; talk about tribal differences between zulus ,& xhosas, or yorubas &igbos . Or pick at indians . Never talk badly of whities . You will get ignored of viciously attacked by " black SA" monikers or" Nigerians " with lines like " we black people are the problem in this world " " we need diversity ( racial)in order for our countries to "work" ,look at the rest of Africa " . Meanwhile the poorest person in SA is as poor as their Burundi counterpart ,and the richest is as rich as their cousins in Monaco .
Note: no real black SA would be insulting other tribes ,calling them baboons or people from up north .& no black SA will call other Africans such names either . It wouldn't make any sense. Btw, do know that there are a lot of white people who know how to communicate well in indigenous SA languages ,in particular xhosa & Zulu. Becareful,but you seem woke enough ( btw house niggas get offended bu that term " woke",because their masters hate it die ) . Let me come & be going before I'm accused of being a "charcoal Venda girl" .
I don't entirely agree with all that you said but the bolded is true e.g austine, irongalaxy..
i will call AmenhotepZuid now... anyway oba most of Nigerians on this forum are racist but they dont know..just saying...heard that mocking asians in your country aint racist..is it true little Lebanese
Has subsistance farming reduced poverty in other parts of the world & Africa in particular? I'm genuinely asking ,you can give examples if you can .
Btw,most villagers in SA have always lived on their produce like the rest of the continent. I live in a village in the Easterm Cape province ,the poorest province in the country & mostfamilies here own fields ,but the issue us that we mostly have grazing land. & mind you this is the 2nd biggest province in landmass but most of the arable land is still under colonisers. Not to mention that water is still " colonised " as well . People were pushed to this side of the capes because it is one of the most difficult places to "get water". Most of the natural dams are privately owned ,this is also a huge problem nationally btw. These are some of the reasons causing the migration to the major cities where people go and work in farms . Zuma prioritised rural development and in many places surrounded by the ocean people were returning to take advantage of the oceans economy ,but that has since been stopped because now you need a fishing boat worth a million rands as a requirement to start working the ocean and we all can guess what this means for the villagers ... . So the land issue in SA is not only about the soil my guy , so much shyt is entangled in this . But one thing is for sure ,we are heading the Zim way ( whatever that means ) and if it goes bad Congo will look like paradise because i don't see anyone that will back down from this , everyone has a lot at stake. Not to mention that all sides have been infiltrated or are being " assisted " by outsiders who need something in SA . Only foolish people talk of apartheid in past tense, when we are yet to gain economic liberation from our masters.
You speak the truth in a way but @ bolded why are you openly dooming SA's future.... It's doesn't sit well with me
[s]The Lebanese control alot in naija..when we look at oil again it's the oil companies that are the king..what I don't like is a guy from nalja calling us names while the crap happening in their country is unspoken..it's another colony...funny I find south Africa to have greater power when it comes to nigeria matters[/s]..
AmenhotepZuid: @Askia, still no "likes" for your stupidity shame your people know deep down your an @rsehole. I will be showing you a map of Lagos Colony and their flag 1862-1914... for now go and memorize the Quran basket case...
You will be lucky if you had raked up 10 likes ever since you set foot on this thread... Fvck everybody despises you and treat you like a fool..heck even your countrymen..
Yes I know, I have visited about 3 towns in the provinces surrounded by villages . The problem with some people is lack of knowledge or travel experience,hence the stereotyping of villages as just places with huts or funny shaped colourful houses where people only go for funerals and micimbi . The good thing is that in many homeland provinces young people are the ones taking that Jozi money to not only build well maintained mansions but also use the land to produce something of value. For instance where I live most of us were born and raised in townships but the cities had taught us a lot and how important the " free land " is . And like you said its young people ....that's the great part. But most from this side are still reluctant to move permanently,me included ,but I spend most of every month down here .
Villas are great free land for farming, big yard, cheap electricity, free water, crime rate low
AmenhotepZuid: @mtis, who is Chagoury Jr the Lebanese boy? am told he's the brains behind the Eko Atlantic 10k sq km reclaimed land waterfront project and 15k sq km Water project. am told special apartheid is loading in zoo geria... Lebanese and their western friends are going to live there. while niggers will be living on the other side of the lagoon.
ChagWHO? You mean those asslickers, we all know they are figureheads whose necks can be chop off at any given time. What is it with this thread? Seun close this thread
Yes I know, I have visited about 3 towns in the provinces surrounded by villages . The problem with some people is lack of knowledge or travel experience,hence the stereotyping of villages as just places with huts or funny shaped colourful houses where people only go for funerals and micimbi . The good thing is that in many homeland provinces young people are the ones taking that Jozi money to not only build well maintained mansions but also use the land to produce something of value. For instance where I live most of us were born and raised in townships but the cities had taught us a lot and how important the " free land " is . And like you said its young people ....that's the great part. But most from this side are still reluctant to move permanently,me included ,but I spend most of every month down here .
Even here in Northwest the trend is the same, villages are full of mansions
Past few years, and it's allall young people
My only fear with this trend is the loss of culture & identity of those villages. I hope they manage to keep the authenticity because there's a different vibration when you're in a village. You feel connected to a source.
My paternal grandparents left the townships in the late 50s, to settle in a village near King William's Town. I'm not sure if they had any roots in the area, but when I used to go there as a child, it was an almost spiritual experience for me. I enjoyed collecting the cow dung that they used to cover the floors with. I loved the smell of a freshly "dung'd" house & the entire experience of village living. I'd sit on one of the rolling hills & feel so proud to be Xhosa. I still remember it to this day because it left that much impact on me. So I hope this transformation doesn't take away that from future generations. The sun rises & sets differently in the villages because nothing is obstructing it. The air is so fresh & so is the breeze when it hits your face, refreshing. In my culture there's this phrase that is always uttered when someone is going through hard times, "Khawuhambe ukhe uyobethwa ngumoya wasemakhaya". The loose translation is, "Go & breathe in the air from your homeland" & it certainly does have a therapeutic effect because it is so pure. I feel that part should be preserved. For some reason I just don't think it would be the same when the place looks like Sandton
My only fear with this trend is the loss of culture & identity of those villages. I hope they manage to keep the authenticity because there's a different vibration when you're in a village. You feel connected to a source.
My paternal grandparents left the townships in the late 50s, to settle in a village near King William's Town. I'm not sure if they had any roots in the area, but when I used to go there as a child, it was an almost spiritual experience for me. I enjoyed collecting the cow dung that they used to cover the floors with. I loved the smell of a freshly "dung'd" house & the entire experience of village living. I'd sit on one of the rolling hills & feel so proud to be Xhosa. I still remember it to this day because it left that much impact on me. So I hope this transformation doesn't take away that from future generations. The sun rises & sets differently in the villages because nothing is obstructing it. The air is so fresh & so is the breeze when it hits your face, refreshing. In my culture there's this phrase that is always uttered when someone is going through hard times, "Khawuhambe ukhe uyobethwa ngumoya wasemakhaya". The loose translation is, "Go & breathe in the air from your homeland" & it certainly does have a therapeutic effect because it is so pure. I feel that part should be preserved. For some reason I just don't think it would be the same when the place looks like Sandton
It has the feel, the sense of knowing everyone in the villa, well constructed roads, they still have that neibourly feel chatting with your nighbour through the fence inviting neibours for lunch
New typa Villas are the best, burbs are boring in a way
My only fear with this trend is the loss of culture & identity of those villages. I hope they manage to keep the authenticity because there's a different vibration when you're in a village. You feel connected to a source.
My paternal grandparents left the townships in the late 50s, to settle in a village near King William's Town. I'm not sure if they had any roots in the area, but when I used to go there as a child, it was an almost spiritual experience for me. I enjoyed collecting the cow dung that they used to cover the floors with. I loved the smell of a freshly "dung'd" house & the entire experience of village living. I'd sit on one of the rolling hills & feel so proud to be Xhosa. I still remember it to this day because it left that much impact on me. So I hope this transformation doesn't take away that from future generations. The sun rises & sets differently in the villages because nothing is obstructing it. The air is so fresh & so is the breeze when it hits your face, refreshing. In my culture there's this phrase that is always uttered when someone is going through hard times, "Khawuhambe ukhe uyobethwa ngumoya wasemakhaya". The loose translation is, "Go & breathe in the air from your homeland" & it certainly does have a therapeutic effect because it is so pure. I feel that part should be preserved. For some reason I just don't think it would be the same when the place looks like Sandton
Nothing beats this imo.
Mine got many years ago trees, with over 10 different fruits in the yard of every home
It has the feel, the sense of knowing everyone in the villa, well constructed roads, they still have that neibourly feel chatting with your nighbour through the fence inviting neibours for lunch
New typa Villas are the best, burbs are boring in a way
Hmmmm...I guess I'll have to experience it to believe it. I'm used to the old way, so adapting to what is becoming is going to take some getting used to, that's for sure. I miss the days of watching old men milking the cows & old women ploughing the fields. I wish I could relive that experience one more time.
Mine got many years ago trees, with over 10 different fruits in the yard of every home
To me that's not the same as picking wild fruits, somewhere deep in the forest. I have a memory of my father & I picking wild pears plus berries in one jungle-looking place near the village. I still remember the sound of the different birds & the sound of water. It sounded like a waterfall but we didn't see it. Anyway, the experience was unparalleled. So calming & tranquil.
To me that's not the same as picking wild fruits, somewhere deep in the forest. I have a memory of my father & I picking wild pears plus berries in one jungle-looking place near the village. I still remember the sound of the different birds & the sound of water. It sounded like a waterfall but we didn't see it. Anyway, the experience was unparalleled. So calming & tranquil.
Yeah, wouldn't want to live permanently in one though lol. It's good as a getaway, I guess I'm being selfish to not want to see it modernized when I don't even live there
Has subsistance farming reduced poverty in other parts of the world & Africa in particular? I'm genuinely asking ,you can give examples if you can .
Btw,most villagers in SA have always lived on their produce like the rest of the continent. I live in a village in the Easterm Cape province ,the poorest province in the country & mostfamilies here own fields ,but the issue us that we mostly have grazing land. & mind you this is the 2nd biggest province in landmass but most of the arable land is still under colonisers. Not to mention that water is still " colonised " as well . People were pushed to this side of the capes because it is one of the most difficult places to "get water". Most of the natural dams are privately owned ,this is also a huge problem nationally btw. These are some of the reasons causing the migration to the major cities where people go and work in farms . Zuma prioritised rural development and in many places surrounded by the ocean people were returning to take advantage of the oceans economy ,but that has since been stopped because now you need a fishing boat worth a million rands as a requirement to start working the ocean and we all can guess what this means for the villagers ... . So the land issue in SA is not only about the soil my guy , so much shyt is entangled in this . But one thing is for sure ,we are heading the Zim way ( whatever that means ) and if it goes bad Congo will look like paradise because i don't see anyone that will back down from this , everyone has a lot at stake. Not to mention that all sides have been infiltrated or are being " assisted " by outsiders who need something in SA . Only foolish people talk of apartheid in past tense, when we are yet to gain economic liberation from our masters ; D.
Confirm. XhosaNostra. See the bolded and give your thought.
Hmmmm...I guess I'll have to experience it to believe it. I'm used to the old way, so adapting to what is becoming is going to take some getting used to, that's for sure. I miss the days of watching old men milking the cows & old women ploughing the fields. I wish I could relive that experience one more time.
Those deep rural villas, now I understand what you mean
Yeah, wouldn't want to live permanently in one though lol. It's good as a getaway, I guess I'm being selfish to not want to see it modernized when I don't even live there
Yes now You can't have your cake and eat it. You either have the city congested due to the inflow of the immigrants from there or take development to them. Win win for all ni aunty mi, lol
Confirm. XhosaNostra. See the bolded and give your thought.
Listen, stop annoying me. Why don't you ask her questions if you're interested in something she said? Her view of the "world" is different from mine. We also come from different parts of the province so I can't confirm what I've never experienced myself. That's her reality & I got mine. Simple.
nisai: Yes now You can't have your cake and eat it. You either have the city congested due to the inflow of the immigrants from there or take development to them. Win win for all ni aunty mi, lol
Change is constant as they say, so hey, at least I have got the memories.
Hahaha. I remember myself & some friends from there chasing each other with poison ivy That thing can sting! We'd use cow dung to soothe the burning & the itching.
The Lebanese control alot in naija..when we look at oil again it's the oil companies that are the king..what I don't like is a guy from nalja calling us names while the crap happening in their country is unspoken..it's another colony...funny I find south Africa to have greater power when it comes to nigeria matters..
What do the Lebanese control in Nigeria, Little Indian? Do they control our economy like the Indians control your economy? Is the richest Nigerian a Lebanese like the richest Kenyan is an Indian? In what industry do they lead in Nigeria? Remember, your richest industrialist is an Indian. I don't even want to talk about the British settlers owning your most fertile parts of arable land. Please don't get me started, boy.
AmenhotepZuid: @forgiveness, don't waste your time boy showing me your mud huts. I studied architecture 6 years. Have 3 degrees in that field the BAS under grad, BAS honours degree, the Masters degree in architecture I even posted a photo of my phone showing me celebrating my SACAP reg testes...am currently doing my MSC Housing and Urban Design somewhere in SA. I can tell you now to me there's no difference between the Ndebele colourful grass thatch roofed houses and your mud huts. In fact I have seen all sub Saharan African grass huts on books and liked the grass huts of Cameroon the Duala and Bamileke... that's still nothing but mud huts.
with you 30% pass rate I don't expect anything good from you.
. Here is my advice to you if you want to be listened to on this thread; talk about tribal differences between zulus ,& xhosas, or yorubas &igbos 
