AmenhotepZuid:
@Xhosanostra, you're one of the few fake accounts here. Let me school you black south Africans have 17% to 39% of Khoisan ancestry as some tribes were original khoi tribes that were assimilated into Bantu tribes. Example in Xhosa's the Sukwini, Qocwa, Gqwahu(Siya Kolisi), and many others were original khoi tribes even among Zulus and tswanas, sothos etc..there were khoi tribes even in Mozambique, Angola, Namibia, Zambia there were khoi tribes. On AmaMpondo they're a small tribe in the eastern cape yes some of them do have shipwreck ancestry European ancestry. but most come from the tribes that were defeated by the Zulu kingdom.

With xhosas and tswanas it may be more

AmenhotepZuid:
@xhosanostra, if you watched the funeral of the Xhosa king academics did mention that the khoi and other black tribes like Xhosa's, tswanas, even Zulu etc...have deep connection the khoi adopted Bantu cultures by 400AD the khoi themselves have Bantu admixture thru intermarriage... That happened over the years. Again if you googled the history of the khoi people they lived in the great lakes Kenya area in the 16000BC there are maps showing this I will post them in future. Even Kenyan sites do mention that the Khoisan did live in Kenya and came into contact with the Bantus and kushites in the great lakes long before migrating to southern Africa settling in Zambia/Angola area then later western part of SA . In Cape Town city library there was a yellow book called "African archeology timeline" that book does show maps showing contacts of khoi and Bantus, cushites in the great lakes in future I will scan it and share it here....again if you read Dr Robert Farris (american historian) book "Face of the Gods" tracing the roots of African Americans in africa he does mention that Mozambican slaves who were imported into Louisiana, South Carolina and New York, Virginia brought with them Bantu and Khoi genes to the new world hence some black Americans like former NBA star Sam Cassell have southern African looks...even American bloggers have mentioned this long ago...same can be said about the likes of Dr Ben Carson, Wayans brothers have south east African ancestry their eyes look similar to many black southern Africans...

the bolded is very true...they left a mark here...have seen khoi look here

Wow am impressed then don't believe opinionated lies that are built around stripping you your country South Africa. You're the land lord here the others are tenants who over stayed their visit. I have read a lot about the gqunukhwebe they lived in today PE area along side Xhosa's and fought 1st frontier wars with the VOC 1779 and won and later British... Intact Xhosa's fought a 100 year wars against settlers from Europe from 1779-1879 where the British imported over 5000 Australians, 4000 Germans to fight during the frontier wars against xhosas.

XhosaNostra:



So what does this have to do with me being fake? Because in part you're agreeing with what I just said in the post that triggered you & led you to accuse me of being a phony.

FYI: I'm a Gqunukhwebe, a subgroup that consists of the Tshonyane & the other clans you mentioned, that were once Khoisans before being integrated into the Xhosa tribe. My clan name is Giqwa- Ntshinga, Xhe!, Mdeyama, Jikijwa, Meqo, Qobo...I could go on. Those are my ancestral names. Again, how am I fake?

XhosaNostra:



So what does this have to do with me being fake? Because in part you're agreeing with what I just said in the post that triggered you & led you to accuse me of being a phony.

FYI: I'm a Gqunukhwebe, a subgroup that consists of the Tshonyane & the other clans you mentioned, that were once Khoisans before being integrated into the Xhosa tribe. My clan name is Giqwa- Ntshinga, Xhe!, Mdeyama, Jikijwa, Meqo, Qobo...I could go on. Those are my ancestral names. Again, how am I fake?

Lol bare you a fake account?

forgiveness:



Professor Udekwu led the team of surgeons that performed the first successful open heart surgery in Nigeria in 1974 which was the first of its kind in black Africa.


Nigeria’s Euracare Multi-Specialist Hospital has now been dubbed the first healthcare facility in Sub Sahara Africa to successfully perform Transjugular Intrahepatic Portosystem (TIPS) procedure, otherwise known as a minimally invasive liver surgery.

More South African medical inventions and procedures:

Amoils Cryo Pencil in 1965

diamond vitrectomy cutter in 1970

South Africa performed the first heart in the world transplant in 1967.

invented the CAT scan in the 70s

Action Potential Stimulation (APS) Therapy device-1991

Smartlock safety syring- 1999


freeplay fetal heart rate monitor-2008

Acadavah:


The Nyamwezi didn't do slavery before Arabs came. The Arabs came, then controlled the Coast and established the slave markets

Source?

mtisTheQubit:

i once saw a Xhosa gal do an ancestry dna test...results showed a low European level presence ..but apparently she very light...you expected a above 50% something European...

What percentage was her Khoisan DNA? Not all Xhosa have European DNA, but certain clans do. Winnie Mandela, for instance, she's of the Mpondo clan & apparently her mother had prominent European features. My father's mother was also a Mpondo, she had hazel eyes & was also light in complexion.
Xhosa have more Khoisan DNA but some also have European ancestry.

AmenhotepZuid:
Wow am impressed then don't believe opinionated lies that are built around stripping you your country South Africa. You're the land lord here the others are tenants who over stayed their visit. I have read a lot about the gqunukhwebe they lived in today PE area along side Xhosa's and fought 1st frontier wars with the VOC 1779 and won and later British... Intact Xhosa's fought a 100 year wars against settlers from Europe from 1779-1879 where the British imported over 5000 Australians, 4000 Germans to fight during the frontier wars against xhosas.

I'm glad I have cleared my name

Austine1212:


Lol bare you a fake account?

Shocking

Problemkid1:
i have been following this thread since page one. Though, am into politics, romance and most especially Celebrity section. But when I saw this thread, it's been Kenya vs Nigeria. Until the Ghanaians and South Africans joined the argument. Besides, the Ghanaians were mentioned into the argument. We fought with the Ghanaians, South Africans, kenyans and even some Nigerians too without any back up. Up till now we're still standing on our feet. We didn't beg the Ghanaians to help us. But you foolish kenyans. Seeking from help from the Ghanaians and South Africans. You even seek for help from your neighbor TZ. be man enough and defend your country. You will never ever meet them in life just like rvp rightly said. Stop sucking people's dicks all because you're seeking for to fight Nigerians. Nigerians are ready for anybody that crosses their lane. You claim Ghanaians are your friends. But they're our closest brothers in the whole of Africa. But still yet we still quarrel on social media.

Gaycunt, what did we say about such language kid?

Austine1212:


With xhosas and tswanas it may be more

Only a khoi man is a real SAns,the rest of you must vacate that land immediately. Let a khoi man turn the whole land into a hunting free zone.

@Nostra do you have a hunter-gatherer bantu tribe in south africa

@mtis, prof Tim Noakes of UCT did mention long ago that east Africans and Khoisan have a lot in common.... Pity some unpure white euro/Asians boers didn't like what he said. Khoisan people lived all over east and southern africa. Again if you took a khoi to a lab you will that they're mixed khoi/Bantu admixture thanks to early contacts between these groups. Southern African Bantus gave khoi ancestry South Angola, Zambia, Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Namibia, SA, Botswana etc..) Even in the America's the southern bantus left a mark as well especially in Sao Paolo, Rio Brazil if you look at Gabriel Jesus of Man city he has south east African Bantu or south Angolan Bantu eye folds khoisanoid.

XhosaNostra:



South African history is quite interesting in that, the land was lost under British rule, where the Boers also suffered immensely because the Brits considered them inferior. After the Brits left, the Afrikaners then took out their frustrations on us & Apartheid began. There's a truth to the saying, "Hurt people, hurt people".

Anyway, another interesting fact is, everybody fought everybody because of the land. In one of the Cape Frontier wars aka the Xhosa wars, it started from a minor skirmish between the Xhosa & the Khoisans, which blew into a fullblown war very quickly because emotions were still high (the Brits chose to take the side of the Khoisans). The Xhosa were angry over losing part of their land in the previous war & over the death of their King. They never got over the death of the king & have hated the Brits since. In total there were 9 wars spanning 100 years between the Xhosa & the Brits (& whoever decided to pick sides). Even during the Anglo-Boer wars, both sides recruited blacks in their armies for manpower. I'm sure the blacks got involved because they were still holding grudges for either side. In the end, we were betrayed by both the Brits & the Boers, but much so by the Boers because after colonization, they initiated Apartheid.

@Bolded, that was never an excuse for apartheid!!! Its like when TayserMahri saying Black people only did bad stuff like slavery and genocide after seeing white people do it, its a stupid excuse, an easy out! Apartheid was a crime against humanity, as was the Rwandan genocide, Ida Amin ect ect

what my argument was about is that people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, don't start saying whites have genocidal DNA and that sort of stuff when in actual fact genocide has been committed by all races for centuries, I fully support reformative policies to rectify the wrongs of apartheid IF implemented correctly and has a positive impact on economic growth! however I don;t support this narrative that Africa was some peaceful wonderland that was only fvcked up when the whites came!!

100% agree with the rest of your post!

Kazikazi:
Only a khoi man is a real SAns,the rest of you must vacate that land immediately. Let a khoi man turn the whole land into a hunting free zone.

Kazi what about Tanazania...only khoi man an Cushites are real owners...wonder what happened to them

Kazikazi:
Only a khoi man is a real SAns,the rest of you must vacate that land immediately. Let a khoi man turn the whole land into a hunting free zone.

You do know the Khoisans were nomads, right? And what of the clans that are direct descendants of the Khoisans? Stop interfering & talking ikaka you know nothing about, mnqundu.

@austin, you're right tswanas have deep Khoisan ancestry their culture and DNA says it all.... in fact they are real khoi...

XhosaNostra:


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leo552:

Kazikazi,you don't have capacity even to make a bicycle,how would you make/build a train,fabricating the body or cabin doesn't mean you manufacture.

Don't compare TZ with some shitholes.
We have been making stuff for generation!

Shma:
you tried to prove your point but at the end you became more of a genius 'at bolded', ; do you know why?
You're afraid that Ghanaians will end up turning on you and thus you find it safe to sugar coat Ghanaians name before you finish your comment ..
Anyway, their is nothing like Ghana are our friends,? Even Tanzanians are our friends on ground but we don't give a Damn f*ck about them when they spew lies..

Imagine someone who's praying for the Ghanaians to help them since is talking. Anyway, rvp has already exposed you idiots. So you're nothing but a bloody coward who's seek from people from another countries to help you. Foolish Kenyan.

AmenhotepZuid:
@mtis, prof Tim Noakes of UCT did mention long ago that east Africans and Khoisan have a lot in common.... Pity some unpure white euro/Asians boers didn't like what he said. Khoisan people lived all over east and southern africa. Again if you took a khoi to a lab you will that they're mixed khoi/Bantu admixture thanks to early contacts between these groups. Southern African Bantus gave khoi ancestry South Angola, Zambia, Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Namibia, SA, Botswana etc..) Even in the America's the southern bantus left a mark as well especially in Sao Paolo, Rio Brazil if you look at Gabriel Jesus of Man city he has south east African Bantu or south Angolan Bantu eye folds khoisanoid.

True the Khoisan was the original man in east africa before bantus came...they used to interact with the Cushites ...the Bantus pushed them down but had intermarried with some tribes ...

jln115:

so much pain!! even worse is that a bunch of Students did it 4 years before Nigeria could manage it!!

NASA enabled

Glad you're not refuting it. No standard satellite from Zulu land yet

Just30:
The NHS of the UK has been asking for Ghanaian nurses since God knows when

Ghana spends money and the time training nurses but the UK gets to enjoy their services. Who do you think is getting played hobbit?

XhosaNostra:


You do know the Khoisans were nomads, right? And what of the clans that are[b]direct descendants[/b] of the Khoisans? Stop interfering & talking ikaka you know nothing about, mnqundu.

Wena mndana,I will do a DNA to get those real descendants, the rest must vacate that land immediately. And my DNA test won't be done in a lab,I will touch the hair.a khoi man has hair which don't grow

XhosaNostra:


You do know the Khoisans were nomads, right? And what of the clans that are direct descendants of the Khoisans? Stop interfering & talking ikaka you know nothing about, mnqundu .

kazi bring ya ass here mnqundu wakho you know what that means in swahili ehe

@xhosanostra, the problem with people on thus site is they don't read they like posting opinion based information.... In most cases that info is believed by the author only. I can post here a screen grab of what naas both said after taking DNA. He said it loud he had no claim to land and hoped he had a khoi ancestor the truth is voc looked down at khoi and chased them away from their colonial boundary from 1652-1795 censuses the khoi weren't listed in the VOC census of the early cape they listed 26000 slaves, 6000 free blacks and 14000 Europeans (unpure whites)....

jln115:

@Bolded, that was never an excuse for apartheid!!! Its like when TayserMahri saying Black people only did bad stuff like slavery and genocide after seeing white people do it, its a stupid excuse, an easy out! Apartheid was a crime against humanity, as was the Rwandan genocide, Ida Amin ect ect

what my argument was about is that people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, don't start saying whites have genocidal DNA and that sort of stuff when in actual fact genocide has been committed by all races for centuries, I fully support reformative policies to rectify the wrongs of apartheid IF implemented correctly and has a positive impact on economic growth! however I don;t support this narrative that Africa was some peaceful wonderland that was only fvcked up when the whites came!!

100% agree with the rest of your post!

That wasn't meant to be an excuse, but my own psychological analysis or understanding behind the sequence of events. The same way now South Africa is a very violent country. Those tendencies didn't come out of nowhere, they're rooted or stemming from a bloody past.

I don't wanna get involved in you all's finger pointing matches. I certainly have no interest in them. I simply wanted to explain to Tayser what led to what.

AmenhotepZuid:
We have 5 guests some of them are fake accounts including 1 black pilchard who catches feelings whenever am online...maybe am stealing his shine.... let me tell you black guy Jl115 it gives me pleasure to see pictures of some of the historical facts I keep posting here being discussed on Facebook and American sites....my task is to educate and insult whenever am insulted... I call a spade a spade I strictly don't compromise. for now let me go to Facebook....I repeat a real Boer will never be obsessed with black sites or black topics. the truth is the guy is a village champion from north, in his world his word stands....

Dan gee my jou FB profiel!! ek wag my bra

Kazikazi:
Only a khoi man is a real SAns,the rest of you must vacate that land immediately. Let a khoi man turn the whole land into a hunting free zone.

Is Tanzania that boring that everytime you wake up you think of south africa.

South Africa giving you sleepless night

Guess what, South africans does not think of Tanzania

Its irrelevant to south africa

mtisTheQubit:

Kazi what about Tanazania...only khoi man an Cushites are real owners...wonder what happened to them

We don't have a khoi tribe in TZ

Kazikazi:
Wena mndana,I will do a DNA to get those real descendants, the rest must vacate that land immediately. And my DNA test won't be done in a lab,I will touch the hair.a khoi man has hair which don't grow

Tsek!

Kazikazi:
Wena mndana,I will do a DNA to get those real descendants, the rest must vacate that land immediately. And my DNA test won't be done in a lab,I will touch the hair.a khoi man has hair which don't grow

so kaz that the so-called science ya keep on talking about..ati you will touch the hair...