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Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by Naajjii: 4:49pm On Apr 07, 2020 |
Yujin:But what is your boundry with Anang worriors of Akwa Ibom who raided you people for slavery back in the days ![]() |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by Naajjii: 4:53pm On Apr 07, 2020 |
Yujin:Ofcourse am enjoying it and will keep enjoying, we can only give you Biafra anytime we are ready. ![]() |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by abduljabbar4(m): 6:31pm On Apr 08, 2020 |
ZKOSOSO: Lol. You must be one of those stubborn students that cook up figures then. I can swear on anything that you have never been to Samaru before unless you are deliberately lying. You said you went there for a study, I'm telling you that I have frequented the place for over 10 years now. See how you are even spelling Shika. Like a typical outsider would. How exactly could there be more Christians than Muslims in Samaru, Palladan and Shika? Like I said earlier, kindly give us random polling unit results from those areas. In which part of Samaru are there christian majority? Move from dogon ice, past the railway and all the way to the forest and count the average number of Muslims on the road alone vs Christians. When you are done, check Kasuwan Samaru and walk all the way to Palladan. Go to PZ and see. Everywhere you go, you must find at least 8 muslims before you find one christian. Go to ATM machines and make a rough population sample. Here are my estimates Samaru: Muslims: 7 C: 3 PZ : 8-2 Palladan : 6-4 Wusasa: 7-3 Sabon Gari: 9-1 Go to Facebook and join some ABU groups. Just ask an honest opinion from a christian student self. |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by ZKOSOSO(m): 8:12pm On Apr 08, 2020 |
abduljabbar4: Your Guestimate continues from your biased standpoint...! My days in ABU was over ten years. Besides the shift in population distribution based on religion settlements occasioned by Sharia crisis of year 2000, my estimates stand as stated. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by Subduer: 7:35am On Apr 09, 2020 |
Naajjii:Emir of Kano used to deliver 1000 slaves, of Hausas, & other tribes, as TRIBUTE to the Sultan of Sokoto. 6 young males were exchanged for 1 Arabian horse. This is the history now HAUNTING, ETCHED in the collective memories of northern Nigeria. |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by Naajjii: 11:20am On Apr 09, 2020 |
Subduer:HOW IGALA COLONIZED IGBOS , go and digest and deal with this......https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igala_people https://www.researchgate.net/publication/319687582_IGALA_COLONISATION_OF_NORTHERN_IGBO_STATES_1450-18th_century |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by Nowenuse: 12:14pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
abduljabbar4:Of course we all know that majority of the Christians who live in Zaria are settlers. Most of them are from Southern Kaduna, Igbos and other Northern christians. However, there are still very many Indigenous Zaria Hausa Christians and other Hausa Christians from Kano & Katsina. Like half of the Christians in Wusasa are indigenous Zaria Christians. Besides, Sarkin Samaru or Sarkin Wusasa is not an evidence for a place being Muslim land or even Hausa land. Before 2001, were most of Southern Kaduna lands not having Hausa fulani Sarkis & Emirs as their traditional heads? Till now is there no Sarkin Saminaka? Is Saminaka a Hausa land or Muslim land? When it is surrounded by dozens of Kurama towns & villages? It seems like you forgot that a system of indirect rule with the Emirates & Sultanate was used all over Northern Nigeria from the colonial era.
Point of correction. Ungwan Gado & Mando are not the only Christian dominated areas in Kaduna city north. What about Kabala west & Kurmin Mashi? Central Area, Sabongari & Hayin banki are also Christian majority or at most a 50-50. Christians have a stronger voter apathy than Muslims, unlike Muslims that will carry the deaf, the lame, the old, the blind and children to go and vote. That is why any place that is even 60% Christian, Muslims will still dominate the politics of that place. Christians only dominate politically if they are up to 70% of a place and they are ruthless. This is why places that are 50-50 or even 55% Muslim are always concluded to be muslim dominated. Also, Muslims are businesses oriented and they always live by the roadsides (sending the false message that they are a majority). That is why Kasuwan Samaru and streets around the market will have more Muslims. However u cannot use a market or the streets around the market to judge the population of an entire Place. If you go to Kachia market for example, it will look like a 50-50, but does that mean that Kachia town is 50% muslims? Yes, Christians tend to have more churches in a place compared to Muslims having mosques. However, it is usually like 4 churches to 1 mosque, especially in the north, unlike in the south where there are mushroom one-pastor churches everywhere. Besides, Google maps do not capture small mushroom churches, only major churches with big landmark buildings. So, it is impossible for you to look at Google maps and u see 10 churches in one place and only 1 mosque and u tell me that muslims are more in that place or it is a 50-50. Hell no! But if you see 8 churches and 2 mosques in a place you can say it is 50-50 Look at the screenshot below from a neighborhood in Kaduna city north Can u see 4 mosques to 1 church? Can such a place ever be Christian majority or 50-50? Hell no. It is overwhelmingly muslim with few Christians. 1 Share
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Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by Nowenuse: 12:42pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
Naajjii: Oga are you mistaking Ebira Koto (Egbura) for Ebira tao? Ebira Koto (Egbura) people are entirely Muslims. I have never seen an Egbura Christian in my life all through my years of being an administrator of the largest middlebelt forums online and meeting thousands of middlebelters from different areas. However, that is not the case for Ebira tao (Kogi central)! At least 30-35% of Ebira tao are Christians. Natasha Akpoti who is terrorizing Gov Bello for dominance of Kogi central, is she not a Christian? Look below at the INEC list for contestants of house of reps from Okehi, Ajaokuta & Adavi LGAs. Can u see the number of Christian names on the list? Even Okene that is overwhelmingly muslim, there are still Christians there like 20% and u can still see Christian names contesting politically. This is in spite of the fact that muslims play politics and contest more than Christians! So can u tell the world how manage Christians are contesting elections all over Ebira land if they are non-existent there? You Hausa fulanis don't know anything about the Middlebelt, you just make unnecessary noise.
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Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by Nowenuse: 1:04pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
senatordave1: Michika is the generic name for Higgi (Kamwe) people who make up 98% of the indigenous population of Michika LGA. Yes, fulanis are the largest ethnic group in Adamawa state, but they are 20% of the state! Same way Beroms are the largest ethnic group in Plateau state and also make up 20% of the population! Niger state is muslim majority of course, why will I argue this? However, muslim majority in Niger state is because of the Nupes & Borgu people (they are 80% muslims). However Niger east (Gbagyis, Kamukus, Koros & Kadaras) are 65% christian while Niger north (Kambaris & Dukawa minus Borgu) are 50-50. But Hausa fulani settlers in Niger east & Niger north gives muslims 10% additional population. FYI, Gwandaras are 50-50. Gwandaras in Lafia & Nasarawa LGAs are predominantly muslims with significant Christian minority. Gwandaras in Kokona are almost entirely christian. Those in Karu & FCT are Muslim majority and those in Southern Kaduna are Christian majority ![]() Also replace Bachama with BWATIYE as the 2nd largest ethnic group in Adamawa state. Bwaitye is Bachama & Batta combined and Mbula to an extent. They speak same language. Cos if u say only Bachama without Batta & Mbula, it will be impossible for them to outnumber Higgis, Kilbas & Chamba people. 1 Like |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by Nowenuse: 1:21pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
scholes0: Thank you for learning. Ebira Christians are 30-35%. People think Ebira is entirely muslim because of Okene town. Okene LGA is overwhelmingly muslim (like 80-90%). However, outside Okene, almost every other Ebira town or villages is 50-50 or predominantly Christian. Go to Obehira, Ihima, Okengwe, Ajaokuta, Ogaminana e.t.c and see Christian outnumber muslims in some areas. It is Ebira Koto (Egbura) people in Koton Karfe, Abaji (FCT) & Toto (Nasarawa) that are entirely muslims (over 90%). As for Igalas, you and Senatordave1 claim that muslims are more in Igala land. I will use 2 methods to disprove this for you people. 1) Let us use Google maps to check all the Igala towns and let us see the number of churches and mosques. I know Christians tend to build more churches than muslims build mosques and that is why we are going to use the ratio of 4 churches: 1 mosque. 2) Even though Muslims play politics more than Christians, check below and see the INEC list of political contestants for house of assembly in Igala land. I can post the list for all Igala state constituencies let us see. And mind u, many Kogi Christians answer names that can pass as Muslim names and Muslims also play politics more than christians, so we can use the ratio of 5 muslim names: 1 Christian name in order to get a better picture of the religious percentage of these places. Cc DanArrewa
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Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by Naajjii: 1:25pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
Nowenuse:This is why i see you as fraudulent, you create statistic to suit you, you claim politics can not be used to measure religion strenght yet you are referencing us to election materials from kogi state. Those christians in the lists you presented are 2% that reflected the percentage of christians in Ebira land not 20% you fraudulently assumed. |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by senatordave1(m): 1:32pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
Nowenuse:Stop dragging us backwards to conflicting grounds.i have told you that religious houses or google maps is not a good parameter for measuring religious percentage.you even contradict yourself by wanting to use numbe of churches to measure but fail to use preponderance of names and politicians also.you have to be consistent no matter the and result |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by senatordave1(m): 1:32pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
Nowenuse:Stop dragging us backwards to conflicting grounds.i have told you that religious houses or google maps is not a good parameter for measuring religious percentage.you even contradict yourself by wanting to use numbe of churches to measure but fail to use preponderance of names and politicians also.you have to be consistent no matter the end result |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by Naajjii: 1:36pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
Nowenuse:Look at this criminal using google map and using ration 4 : 1 ha ha. Way dont you present all the candidate lists in all Igalaland, why did you select some areas and leave others? 1 Like |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by senatordave1(m): 1:42pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
Nowenuse:The percentage of the largest tribe in a state should not matter.because you they are not up to 50%,you now want to lump up different christian dominated tribes to displace them? Someone said you use fraudulent parameters and you are not proving him wrong.be consistent. You claim Muslims are 80% in niger but now trying to whittle down their population by extricating borgu and even claiming niger east is christian majority. Hausas cannot be 10% of niger if they are so dominant in niger politics |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by senatordave1(m): 1:45pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
Nowenuse:There's nothing like the bolded afterall they are more Christian governors and nass members than Muslims.you cannot postulate or insinuats without statistical evidence.say what you can back up |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by senatordave1(m): 1:46pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
Naajjii: Nowenuse,this is rubbishing your beautiful posts.you need to be consistent. 1 Like |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by eagleu: 5:10pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
I see the knives of inconsistency out for Nowensue!!! |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by OneDollarSalary(m): 5:38pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
Naajjii:I'm Igala and have given a statistic on this very thread. The main reason Muslims have population is marrying more than 1 wife and early marriage. Despite that they are still head to head with the Christians. 1 Like |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by OneDollarSalary(m): 5:40pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
senatordave1:The Igalas of which I am don't vote along religion line. |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by Naajjii: 6:12pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
OneDollarSalary:You are Igala !! go and tell that to your Igala Muslims brothers if they won't silence you. You have given reason why Muslims have more population because they marry more wives and early marriage Does it matter if they marry more wives or not . What matters is who is wether you marry more wives or not is not the issue, if you like go and marry more. |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by Nowenuse: 6:25pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
Naajjii: You are obviously blind! Out of the 57 candidates in the Ebira list I posted 20 of them had at least one English/Christian name and like I said not all Kogi Christians have Christian names, some of them answer tribal and Muslim names too just as we are seeing people's names like KABIR GLORIA, USMAN JOSEPH on this list! Go and wear your reading glasses and scan those names again. Yes, I said politics cannot be used to judge for religious percentage of a place especially in the north. Igalas and to an extent Ebiras do not play politics based on religion just like the Yorubas who are their neighbors. Igalas & Ebiras share more in common with Yorubas than they do with Hausa fulani muslims. However, politics can still help to give the clue of what a place looks like same way Google maps showing religious houses can also give a clue. Only difference is that the number of religious houses favour Christians more while politics favours muslims more. Simple! And that is why I brought about the ratio system. 4 churches : 1 mosque. & 6 muslim contestants: 3 Christian contestants. 1 Like |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by Nowenuse: 6:30pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
senatordave1: Since Nigeria does not have religious census, we have to manage the only clues that we have and as far as am concerned, the number of religious houses in Google maps and list of politcal contenders of a place are a very very good clue. Why are there more mosques than churches in Sokoto and more churches than mosques in Port Harcourt? Why are the more muslim political contenders in Katsina and more Christian political contenders in Anambra? |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by Nowenuse: 6:41pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
senatordave1:Of course! If all Adamawa tribes (since they are predominantly Christian) unite based on religion against the Fulanis, then they are the clear majority and they can do whatever they like to the Fulanis! This was the same way all other Plateau tribes united against the Beroms in 2015 elections to vote APC and the Beroms lost woefully. It's simple logic.
Muslims are not up to 80% in Niger state. It is more like 65-70%. Itsekiris are not up to 10% of Delta state's population, yet they are very influential in the state's politics and have produced a governor for 8 years. There are certain criteria that promote certain things. Yes! Niger east either has slightly more Christians than muslims or at most a 50-50. David Umaru would have never won elections as a senator of Niger east if the zone was Muslim majority. Have u ever seen anywhere that was muslim majority and they voted for a Christian leader? I was separating Borgu & Nupe from others in Niger state cos they are not the same people, they are very different people. It is the same way Southern Kaduna people & Zaria people can be very well and will always be separate people even if they share the same state! |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by Nowenuse: 6:44pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
Naajjii: Stop talking like an ignoramus. I was only giving an example with the LGAs I posted from Igala land! If u want the entire Igala land I can post them and we do the calculations. Are you in? 1 Like |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by Nowenuse: 6:46pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
Naajjii: Stop being a stark ignoramus. The fact that muslims in Plateau marry more wives, does that still make them a majority in Plateau state? 1 Like |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by OneDollarSalary(m): 7:05pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
Naajjii:The argument of who has more population has never occurred before. It's you who live some thousand miles away that's saying what you don't know. |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by OneDollarSalary(m): 7:19pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
Nowenuse:Bros, you see those names you posted, any name that is mixed of both Islamic and Christian be rest assure that sure a person is Christan. Any one that is both tribal name, such a person is Christan. The ones with both Arabic names are Muslims, even in such case you still find Christians among them. During my primary and secondary days, in my class and other classes you find names like, Goodness Salifu, Ajifa Silva Alhassan, Kinsley Alhassan, Jonathan Muhammed, Inikpi John, Onuche Ademu Joseph, Moses Musa (funny ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by OneDollarSalary(m): 7:24pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
Nowenuse:Just seeing this after my post above. Bravo! 2 Likes |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by Naajjii: 7:47pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
OneDollarSalary:The argument never occurred before but it's occurring now.So go and argue with your Igala Muslim brothers if they won't roast you. You are probably one of those Igbo south Igaland that try to claim Igala meanwhile most Igalas see them as inferior. |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by Naajjii: 7:52pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
Nowenuse:Pls post them but another thing how credible is the list , is it edited or not because I don't trust you and am not still convinced you are not an Igbo man. I can only analyse the list if it is proven that you are not a Nyamiri. |
Re: Northern Nigeria Is 35-40% Christian (proofs) by Naajjii: 7:55pm On Apr 09, 2020 |
OneDollarSalary:Why can't Igala Christian become Governor in Kogi?Its always Igala muslim governor. Muslim take Governor and sometimes give you senator. |
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