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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:06pm On Apr 09, 2020
iamoyindamola:
lmao
Hold on you shifting table, I used Owen cos he struggled in Spain and was having it easy in England.
At what age bracket is a CF in his peak and off peak?

No, you lied that he regained his scoring form in England. He never scored the 13 goals he scored in Madrid when he returned to England, averaging 4-5 goals for the rest of his career in England.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by iamoyindamola(m): 3:08pm On Apr 09, 2020
afrodoc2:


No, you lied that he regained his scoring form in England. He never scored the 13 goals he scored in Madrid when he returned to England, averaging 4-5 goals for the rest of his career in England.
mostly coming from bench haba
Then who do you expect him to replace who at Manchester United

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:09pm On Apr 09, 2020
DeadPresidents:


Doc, this knowledge you're spittin' should not be free grin

Lol. It has to be free so that this Henry narrative won’t grow wings.
I am a fan of Henry, but anybody who watched him in the mid 90s and saw how inconsistent and sometimes poor his finishing was at that stage in his career won’t be making this claim.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by iamoyindamola(m): 3:12pm On Apr 09, 2020
afrodoc2:


Lol. It has to be free so that this Henry narrative won’t grow wings.
I am a fan of Henry, but anybody who watched him in the mid 90s and saw how he in consistently pepper us and sometimes poor his finishing was at that stage in his career won’t be making this claim.
fixed
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:16pm On Apr 09, 2020
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Swissh: 3:17pm On Apr 09, 2020
iamoyindamola:
Henry majority of his goals were in England, meaning he love it in England.
There's 80% chance he will break it, same with aguero
Henry would have definitely shattered the record if he had started his career and remained in England until his late thirties even Aguero as well. Henry came to England at 22. Just look at their goals and compare you will see they have similar trajectory.

Henry's Arsenal PL career 1999/00- 2006/07, Age 22-29, 254 appearances. 174 goals,

Shearer 1992/93- 1999/00, Age 22-29, 253 appearances, 176 goals,

Aguero 2011/12-2018/19, Age 23-30, 239 appearances 164 goals.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by iamoyindamola(m): 3:20pm On Apr 09, 2020
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by iamoyindamola(m): 3:23pm On Apr 09, 2020
Swissh:

Henry would have definitely shattered the record if he had started his career and remained in England until his late thirties even Aguero as well. Henry came to England at 22. Just look at their goals and compare.

Henry's Arsenal PL career 1999/00- 2006/07, Age 22-29, 254 appearances. 174 goals,

Shearer 1992/93- 1999/00, Age 22-29, 253 appearances, 176 goals,

Aguero 2011/12-2018/19, Age 23-30, 239 appearances 164 goals.
That's why those English fraud stay at home they hardly go abroad,you see why EPL clubs go for foreign players instead of these over priced ones.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by DeadPresidents: 3:26pm On Apr 09, 2020
iamoyindamola:
fixed

Sod 09, use brain joor. Henry became a beast but he wasn't always that good. His Juventus move was not exactly a roaring success.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by iamoyindamola(m): 3:28pm On Apr 09, 2020
DeadPresidents:


Sod 09, use brain joor. Henry became a beast but he wasn't always that good. His Juventus move was not exactly a roaring success.
Explain abeg, what do you mean he wasn't that good?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by DeadPresidents: 3:30pm On Apr 09, 2020
iamoyindamola:

Explain abeg

I am not your class teacher Sodiq cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by iamoyindamola(m): 3:32pm On Apr 09, 2020
DeadPresidents:


I am not your class teacher Sodiq cheesy
Then serve
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by DeadPresidents: 3:36pm On Apr 09, 2020
iamoyindamola:

Then serve

Henry was not a roaring success at Juventus. Carlo Ancelloti who was the manager for Juventus then didn't even see Henry as a striker able to play through the middle and he was quietly discharged to Arsenal the following summer.

bleacherreport dot com/articles/2285649-thierry-henry-how-did-juventus-get-it-so-wrong
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by iamoyindamola(m): 3:43pm On Apr 09, 2020
DeadPresidents:


Henry was not a roaring success at Juventus. Carlo Ancelloti who was the manager for Juventus then didn't even see Henry as a striker able to play through the middle and he was quietly discharged to Arsenal the following summer.

bleacherreport dot com/articles/2285649-thierry-henry-how-did-juventus-get-it-so-wrong
nah
This is way out of context
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by DeadPresidents: 4:03pm On Apr 09, 2020
iamoyindamola:
nah
This is way out of context

Juventus bought Henry in the winter transfer window of 99 and offloaded him in the summer transfer window of 99. All this movement happened all within a year.

That looks like a very successful transfer.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by spillo1: 4:26pm On Apr 09, 2020
Swissh:

Henry would have definitely shattered the record if he had started his career and remained in England until his late thirties even Aguero as well. Henry came to England at 22. Just look at their goals and compare you will see they have similar trajectory.

Henry's Arsenal PL career 1999/00- 2006/07, Age 22-29, 254 appearances. 174 goals,

Shearer 1992/93- 1999/00, Age 22-29, 253 appearances, 176 goals,

Aguero 2011/12-2018/19, Age 23-30, 239 appearances 164 goals.
If I remember correctly Rooney had 160+ league goals at 26yrs old. What a wasted potential .
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 4:54pm On Apr 09, 2020
If these strikers played all their career in England, Shearer's 260 goals record wud hv bn broken by now

- Thiery Henry
-Sergio Aguero
-Ruud Van Nistelrooy
- Cantona
-Ronaldo


---Rooney was unlucky, he was played out of position, so many times.
---I see Harry Kane breaking it......( so far he can overcome constant injury and also stay in EPL)

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Godx: 5:47pm On Apr 09, 2020
spillo1:

If I remember correctly Rooney had 160+ league goals at 26yrs old. What a wasted potential .

True. As a teenager, I thought he was Ballon d'or material.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 6:01pm On Apr 09, 2020
Expert17:
If these strikers played all their career in England, Shearer's 260 goals record wud hv bn broken by now

- Thiery Henry
-Sergio Aguero
-Ruud Van Nistelrooy
- Cantona
-Ronaldo


---Rooney was unlucky, he was played out of position, so many times.
---I see Harry Kane breaking it......( so far he can overcome constant injury and also stay in EPL)

If you add all the league goals Ruud scored in his life including Dutch 1st and 2nd division he scored 249 goals, but if he had played only in the English Top Division he would have scored more than 260? Not Logical

If you add all Cantona's league goals in his life including French 1st and 2nd division he scored 131 goals but somehow he would have magically scored 260 goals if he played only in the English top division? Not logical.

Ronaldo. Definitely. He became a goal machine of unreal proportions. Football god.

Aguero. Likely. He has been prolific practically all through his career, right from teenage years. Presently has 254 goals in European League football, and not done yet.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 6:24pm On Apr 09, 2020
afrodoc2:


If you add all the league goals Ruud scored in his life including Dutch 1st and 2nd division he scored 249 goals but if he had played only in the English Top Division he would have scored more than 260? Not Logical

If you add all Cantona's league goals in his life including French 1st and 2nd division he scored 131 goals but somehow he would have magically scored 260 goals if he played only in the English top division? Not logical.

Ronaldo. Definitely. He became a goal machine of unreal proportions. Football god.

Aguero. Likely. He has been prolific practically all through his career, right from teenage years. Presently has 254 goals in European League football, and not done yet.

CLUB statistics
Ruud Van Nistelroooy scored 349 goals in 592 appearance in all competitions .......Alan shearer scored 379 goals in 734 appearances in all competitions

Country statistics
Van nistelrooy scored 35 goals in 70 appearance..............Shearer scored 30 goals in 63 appearance.

I strongly believe Van nistelrooy would hv broken the record.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 6:33pm On Apr 09, 2020
Expert17:


CLUB statistics
Ruud Van Nistelroooy scored 349 goals in 592 appearance in all competitions .......Alan shearer scored 379 goals in 734 appearances in all competitions

Country statistics
Van nistelrooy scored 35 goals in 70 appearance..............Shearer scored 30 goals in 63 appearance.

I strongly believe Van nistelrooy would hv broken the record.

It is a league record. Use their league statistics. How would Ruud have scored more than 260 goals in the EPL when he didn't score up to that when you add his goals from the weaker Dutch top league and the useless Dutch 2nd division? Not logical.

This is not a referendum over who was the better striker. It is about who could have scored 260 EPL goals in his time if he had played only in the EPL.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Swissh: 6:35pm On Apr 09, 2020
spillo1:

If I remember correctly Rooney had 160+ league goals at 26yrs old. What a wasted potential .
Baba Ijebu Rooney. The United legend with one goal in 3 world cups cheesy cheesy

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 6:53pm On Apr 09, 2020
afrodoc2:


It is a league record. Use their league statistics. How would Ruud have scored more than 260 goals in the EPL when he didn't score up to that when you add his goals from the weaker Dutch top league and the useless Dutch 2nd division? Not logical.


If Rooney can score 200+ league goals in EPL, Van nistelrooy wud score more than 260 goals..........

Van nistelrooy scoring doesnt depend on the League(weak or strong), it depends on the caliber of players in the team to supply him.....he got 56 goals in 73 appearance in UCL to prove this (6th on all time UCL highest goal scorer)

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:34pm On Apr 09, 2020
So, you think all those guys would've started scoring at the same rate you saw them maintain in their peak years?

When it comes to Ronaldo, you guys claim he went to Spain and had it easy compared to England and here, some of you are implying Shearer had it easy in England.

You think Aguero was the top striker he is now when he was way younger? Same goes for Henry, Nistelrooy and the likes. For those Rooney and Henry excuses, it's nobody's fault if they couldn't hold their place as the CF.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:38pm On Apr 09, 2020
Godx:


True. As a teenager, I thought he was Ballon d'or material.
Whilst Ronaldo and Messi pushed themselves to the very limit to develop their game, Rooney didn't really put in that extra effort. Rooney was feared by every defender when he burst through the ranks at Everton and newly joined Manchester United.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 7:53pm On Apr 09, 2020
afrodoc2:


If you add all the league goals Ruud scored in his life including Dutch 1st and 2nd division he scored 249 goals, but if he had played only in the English Top Division he would have scored more than 260? Not Logical

If you add all Cantona's league goals in his life including French 1st and 2nd division he scored 131 goals but somehow he would have magically scored 260 goals if he played only in the English top division? Not logical.

Ronaldo. Definitely. He became a goal machine of unreal proportions. Football god.

Aguero. Likely. He has been prolific practically all through his career, right from teenage years. Presently has 254 goals in European League football, and not done yet.

Unless City changes managers, I think Aguero is done.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 7:59pm On Apr 09, 2020
patrickmuf:
Whilst Ronaldo and Messi pushed themselves to the very limit to develop their game, Rooney didn't really put in that extra effort. Rooney was feared by every defender when he burst through the ranks at Everton and newly joined Manchester United.

Rooney’s goal-scoring prowess went with his anger. The moment he started acting matured he stopped scoring goals.

Wished he achieved more but he’s still a legend.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by spillo1: 9:38pm On Apr 09, 2020
Godx:


True. As a teenager, I thought he was Ballon d'or material.
Back in 2003/2004 Rooney was even considered the more talented between him and Ronaldo. If you were to pick the one who would go on to win numerous balon dors and dominate world football it will be Rooney. He was miles ahead of Ron. He didn't reach his full potential.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:03am On Apr 10, 2020
Leyqute:


Rooney’s goal-scoring prowess went with his anger. The moment he started acting matured he stopped scoring goals.

Wished he achieved more but he’s still a legend.
I swear you are spot on. I didn't want to write it here as most folks would've probably misunderstood what I mean. I blame Sir Alex for changing him, that Rooney that was easily provoked had the ego of the very best players...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Victornezzar: 8:27am On Apr 10, 2020
Ever since Dopejemi told us about the Incident that happened to him at South Africa

We haven't heard from him... All his numbers aren't going
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 8:30am On Apr 10, 2020
spillo1:

Back in 2003/2004 Rooney was even considered the more talented between him and Ronaldo. If you were to pick the one who would go on to win numerous balon dors and dominate world football it will be Rooney. He was miles ahead of Ron. He didn't reach his full potential.
Thats English players for you. I pity Chelsea or Man U, any of them that will fall for this Sancho’s hype.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ayobami93(m): 8:55am On Apr 10, 2020
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