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Why Pastor Chris May Be Right (why Pastor Sam May Not Have Enough Information) by Playthepianos: 12:44pm On Apr 10, 2020 |
Popular televangelist and the President and Founder of Christ-embassy Pastor Chris Oyakhilome has been all over the news over the new conspiracy about 5G Network and his health Implications, although most of the news are distorted claiming he said " what is killing people is 5G and not corona-virus'' when in fact he actually said '' what killed people in Wuhan-China is 5G'' and as you know China is very strict with information and no one can confidently go to china to do research. But Pastor Chris dared anyone who thinks he have the information about what really happened in China to come forward with it, No one has done so till date instead you have Pastor Sam Adeyemi Claiming with proof actually that during the Spanish flu churches where closed down also, but that was not the contention, My guess was what Pastor Sam was trying to point out was the second statement which said that the Federal Government Shut down Lagos and Abuja even though the State had already given guidelines, to facilitate the setting up of 5G poles. Now lets analyze this two claims with what we know, First about Wuhan China from what we know it was not a gradual death for its victim, there where reports of people dying on the streets this even led to the theory that the virus had two strain one that was instant and one that was mild, how do we really know why people that left their home health walked to their destination and suddenly falls down we may never really know because that is definitely not the way corona-virus has been killing people as we have come to see since we are watching it everyday on the news, but one angle that is important why we need to listen to a man like Pastor Chris apart from the stated irregularity is that. There is a Christ-Embassy Church any where in the world, yes! even in North Korea there is a Christ-embassy Church with members on the ground that have cell meetings and talk about Jesus Christ, that kind of Networking is something no News Organization can Boost of, so with that I think Pastor Chris has access to information only few people can boost of because only people on the ground can really tell you what happened there, and sure if they tell a news organization am sure they will not be bold enough to publish it. Pastor Chris also hinted to this when he said everyone should do their in-dept research and should not throw away the opinion of another person so fast because that person may have access to Information that you don't. On the other case about the Government closing up Lagos because of 5G we saw from videos that some persons where digging for cables around Lagos question is, is it an essential work? is it only Lagos that can contact corona-virus ? why the rush ? why cant they wait at least for somebody to do research amid the controversy? these are some of the irregularities around Covid-19 and its not just as simple as one research? www.playthepianos.com 3 Likes |
Re: Why Pastor Chris May Be Right (why Pastor Sam May Not Have Enough Information) by newmi(m): 1:22pm On Apr 10, 2020 |
Playthepianos: Any intelligent mind however independent and neutral listening to the man would know and agree that conspiracy theory or no conspiracy theory, there are elements of truths in his arguments at least such concepts and topics as 5g and other intelligent debates around the COVID-19 has become public interest in a world (and country) where they expect the larger majority to be mere consumers not asking questions. You I hear people say "...oh the man is a pastor not an expert, he should focus on preaching in church..." I don't get; didn't he go to school? Is there any individual or group beit religious or secular that can boast of a network of people and systems aided by the best cutting edge technologies in media, IT, networking, programming etc as this man and his organisation? Frankly, I think the political leaders, governments and policy makers in Africa and Nigeria in particular if they are smart should rather consult people like Pastor Chris Oyakhilome for advice because in such moments it matters who is advising the government. 5 Likes |
Re: Why Pastor Chris May Be Right (why Pastor Sam May Not Have Enough Information) by sophiap: 2:56pm On Apr 10, 2020 |
newmi: Very true 3 Likes |
Re: Why Pastor Chris May Be Right (why Pastor Sam May Not Have Enough Information) by generationz(f): 3:45pm On Apr 10, 2020 |
Op, I will only believe your if you can explain how even with 5g still operational in China, 77,000 people have recovered out of 81,000 people with Covid. People have not only recovered in China but normal business activities have commenced because they have been able to curtail it. Meanwhile, Iran has 68,000 covid patients and they dont have 5g network. You people call yourselves graduates but cannot make simple research before putting fear in the hearts and minds of others. Fear God o. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Pastor Chris May Be Right (why Pastor Sam May Not Have Enough Information) by spartan117(m): 4:23pm On Apr 10, 2020 |
generationz:Many of you quote the man of God Pst Chris out of context, most of the people who are bashing him online didn't take the time to watch the full message. I watched the full message which spanned about 3hrs. Let's correct some misconceptions, shall we: 1] Pst Chris never said that 5g causes covid19 What he said about covid19 was that it was created by certain individuals with the aim of creating fear, thus people will embrace the vaccine when it is released. The vaccine will contain a digital ID that will allow the victims to be controlled by signals from 5g towers. 2] He never said technology is bad Added to what I listed about 5g in point 1 above, he also said that improved technology is not bad in itself. He however pointed out that the 5g technology despite its many benefits has the underlying purpose of being used as a tool to control people using the digital ID's that will be implanted through the covid19 vaccine. He surmised that the vaccine and 5g are tools in the hands of the anti Christ to bring about the reign of the beast as stated in the book of revelation. He also stated most importantly, that this attempt by the anti Christ to fast track his reign on earth is not inline with scriptural timeline as the prophecy concerning the rise and dominion of the church and several other prophecies has to take place before the rapture, and only then will the anti Christ be allowed to reign over the earth for a set period, and he therefore called on Christians all over the globe to pray. His claim was also backed up by Pst Benny Hinn. Please note that all the claims which the man of God made was backed up by scriptural references as well as scientific proof. It would be foolish and utterly irresponsible for any person, nation, government to dismiss these facts as false without doing any research on them. Don't join the bandwagon of people blindly criticizing the man of God do your own research. If you are ready I can provide the YouTube link to the full message so you can watch it and draw your own conclusions. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Pastor Chris May Be Right (why Pastor Sam May Not Have Enough Information) by od4life(m): 5:30pm On Apr 10, 2020 |
spartan117:Thanks for throwing more light on this. There is a lot of misconception on social media about what Pst Chris said. Hence people like you are needed to correct these misconceptions. 4 Likes |
Re: Why Pastor Chris May Be Right (why Pastor Sam May Not Have Enough Information) by spartan117(m): 10:52pm On Apr 10, 2020 |
od4life:I'll try and create a detailed thread about this. 1 Like |
Re: Why Pastor Chris May Be Right (why Pastor Sam May Not Have Enough Information) by Maestro21: 11:15pm On Apr 10, 2020 |
God bless this thread. |
Re: Why Pastor Chris May Be Right (why Pastor Sam May Not Have Enough Information) by generationz(f): 1:40am On Apr 11, 2020 |
spartan117: So, in Pst. Chris's own words, the federal government deliberately kept everyone indoors to mount the 5g masts and not because there is COVID already in Nigeria. This is despite the fact that 7 people have been confirmed dead and most of the victims are returnees from abroad so you can't say their deaths are made up. Do you really believe that in order for this tyrannical government and a multinational company in Nigeria to mount or install anything, there needs to be a compulsory lockdown? Lockdown for who? Nigerians? WHAT WILL NIGERIANS DO EVEN IF WE ARE AWARE OF THE INSTALLATIONS? Even if they are installing it in broad daylight, what can Nigerians do? Is it the same Nigeria that a simple peaceful protest in the east was turned to a blood bath by the Nigerian army that its citizens will be kept in the dark about the Installation of 5g? Do you really think those in office are that scared of you? How many Nigerians are even aware of 5g? Is it the average citizen looking for bread that will be aware of any nonsensical installation and try to stop it? Let me laugh very well. Okay, let's assume they tried to keep us in the dark about the installations. Can't it still be vandalized like they were up to in China and the UK before it was curtailed? Even the Bible described the mark of the beast as something that would be so obvious, we would be able to say yes or no to its forceful use. It's not something that would be hidden in a vaccine or treatment to cure the sick. If these people wanted to hide anything in medicine or food, they would have done it long ago through a multinational and Africa (Nigeria gangan) would have even been the first to swallow it without hesitation because it's like Africa has been cursed to be the dumping ground. This is not the first time the world is being overtaken by a pandemic. The Spanish flu killed over 500 Million people 100 years ago. I'm sure many people predicted the end of the world and the anti-Christ then. Pst. Chris has not given a logical explanation and is just spreading fear as he has claimed others are doing. Remember how several countries struggled to be the world power to launch 5g? Yes, that's where this rumor came from. China's efforts are being destroyed because of rumors like these. When the mark of the beast truly comes you will know. It would be steeped in new age doctrines and fake love teachings. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Pastor Chris May Be Right (why Pastor Sam May Not Have Enough Information) by Vicachiever: 4:23am On Apr 11, 2020 |
Jesus said go into the world and preach the gospel. Then why is it hard for most christians to preach. Find out! Make sure to like and SUBSCRIBE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9m1hsI6AUA |
Re: Why Pastor Chris May Be Right (why Pastor Sam May Not Have Enough Information) by od4life(m): 8:40am On Apr 11, 2020 |
spartan117:Ok. That will be good. |
Re: Why Pastor Chris May Be Right (why Pastor Sam May Not Have Enough Information) by spartan117(m): 9:40am On Apr 11, 2020 |
generationz:Pst Chris NEVER said that about the federal government of Nigeria This was why I gave you the assignment to go back and watch the full video, so you will stop uttering statements in ignorance. If you want the video it's not too late to ask. |
Re: Why Pastor Chris May Be Right (why Pastor Sam May Not Have Enough Information) by generationz(f): 2:05pm On Apr 11, 2020 |
spartan117: https://www.instagram.com/tv/B-pn-dXHa-0/?igshid=5eboiugmhjmu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3AewMyT1FI Maybe that is another Pastor Chris Oyakhilome then. He clearly says in the first 5 minutes of the video. The federal government made sure there was a lockdown to put install 5g equipment. He also clearly said without mincing words that 5g led to deaths in China. He didn't say the virus, he said 5g. Check the video out at 1:12. It seems like your pastor speaks from both sides of his mouth. *Him saying saying indoors does nothing to combat the disease is pure hogwash. One of the reasons China was able to combat the disease was because they enforced military like sit at home order on the people. Chinese didn't joke with the virus-like America. *He also said they want social distancing so we don't communicate. Is your pastor for real? So, you mean in this period with social media, texting and phone calls the government has to enforce sit at home to stop people from communicating? We all know how it takes only a tweet to start an uprising. *Lastly, he said where are the people sick with the flu? Is pastor Chris for real? Let's assume celebrities are part of the conspiracy, is he saying random people who have lost their relatives to Covid 19 and put it up on the internet are also lying? This video clearly shows pastor Chris is a liar. He speaks from both sides of his mouth. I read and listened to his messages so I'm surprised he will start speaking from both sides of his mouth at a time like this. I'm really disappointed. I know he is your pastor and it is a hard pill to swallow, watch this video and judge for yourself if I've lied against your pastor. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Pastor Chris May Be Right (why Pastor Sam May Not Have Enough Information) by spartan117(m): 3:10pm On Apr 11, 2020 |
generationz:First of all he is not my pastor. Secondly this is not the original video in which he first brought this to light therefore I'm only seeing this video now. However that changes nothing what he said in the two videos are the same only that he specifically mentioned the Nigerian government in this one. Thanks for sharing by the way. Like I said earlier every claim he made in the 3hrs video was backed by not only scriptural references but scientifict facts as well and the man of God challenged anyone who doesn't belief to do their own research and disproof with solid facts. So far neither you nor any other critic have done so, all you have done is call him a conspiracy theorist and insult him. It's unwise to dismiss facts as untrue without conducting proper research. In your case not only have you dismissed the facts, you have also stubbornly refused to even examine them. I will still refer you back to the sermon where he talked about it so you would have the full picture and won't form opinions in ignorance. If you need the link all you have to do is ask. |
Re: Why Pastor Chris May Be Right (why Pastor Sam May Not Have Enough Information) by onlyfacts: 5:59pm On Apr 11, 2020 |
spartan117: From the video posted by generationz (God bless you whoever you are) these are the high lighted points below. You speak of the facts, here are the facts!!! 1. Myth from Pastor Chris: 5G is the cause of deaths in Wuhan China and not the coronavirus! Fact: 5G is the fifth generation of wireless communications technologies, frequencies are above 24 GHz, reaching up to 72 GHz. The reach is short, so more cells are required. Millimeter waves have DIFFICULTY traversing many WALLS and WINDOWS, so indoor coverage is limited. All the 5G wireless devices in a cell communicate by radio waves ( non-ionizing "radio waves" ). Since at least the 1990s, scientists have researched whether the now-ubiquitous radiation (from radio waves) associated with mobile phone antennas or cell phone towers is affecting human health. In response, the World Health Organization established the International EMF Project in 1996 to assess the scientific evidence of possible health effects of EMF in the frequency range from 0 to 300 GHz (5G operates between 24GHz-72GHz). They have stated that EXTENSIVE RESEARCH has been conducted into possible health effects of exposure to many parts of the frequency spectrum, all reviews conducted so far have indicated that as long as exposures are below the limits recommended in the ICNIRP (1998) EMF guidelines, which cover the full frequency range from 0–300 GHz, such exposures do not produce any known adverse health effect!!! Fact: whistle-blower doctor Li Wenliang who died on the front line in Wuhan established the cause of death in Wuhan was from a novel Coronavirus, now COVID-19 based on virology study of infected patients!!! 2. Myth from pastor Chris: Staying indoors( that's is quarantine) and social distancing are all scam! Fact: Limiting face-to-face contact with others is the best way to reduce the spread of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). Social distancing also called physical distancing is a way of limiting face-to-face contact. To practice social or physical distancing: Stay at least 6 feet (2 meters) from other people Do not gather in groups Stay out of crowded places and avoid mass gatherings Quarantine is used to keep someone who might have been exposed to COVID-19 away from others. Isolation is used to separate sick people from healthy people. All this guidelines works, a disregard for them as suggested by pastor Chris is without scientific evidence!!! 3. Myth from pastor Chris: He even doubts anyone has the COVID-19 in Nigeria, saying "where are the sick people with the flu"? Fact: NCDC (Nigeria Centre for Disease Control) are responsible for the stats we currently have for COVID-19, which is at present stands at INFECTED 305, RECOVERED 58, and DEATHS 7. pastor Chris can reach out to the FG to verify these facts, speak with LASG or go to the Disease and Infection's Center at Yaba to verify for himself these facts!!! Cc zionmde 1 Like |
Re: Why Pastor Chris May Be Right (why Pastor Sam May Not Have Enough Information) by generationz(f): 6:43pm On Apr 11, 2020 |
spartan117: How people defend lies even with evidence amazes me. I 1 Like |
Re: Why Pastor Chris May Be Right (why Pastor Sam May Not Have Enough Information) by generationz(f): 6:44pm On Apr 11, 2020 |
onlyfacts: See leave these people o. They can't even put together logical arguments. The video I posted clearly goes against whatever he says the pastor claims covid is. Pastor Chris is a liar. 1 Like |
Re: Why Pastor Chris May Be Right (why Pastor Sam May Not Have Enough Information) by onlyfacts: 6:54pm On Apr 11, 2020 |
generationz: they honestly make me laugh. They are honestly zombies now. They are all being mindlessly controlled, the same thing they fear the most . Watch as he comes back and say I should do my research Please I would love to read their research , burnt research! |
Re: Why Pastor Chris May Be Right (why Pastor Sam May Not Have Enough Information) by spartan117(m): 7:25pm On Apr 11, 2020 |
generationz:Alright. just keep serving God and spreading the gospel. Shalom |
Re: Why Pastor Chris May Be Right (why Pastor Sam May Not Have Enough Information) by generationz(f): 7:37pm On Apr 11, 2020 |
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