gregyboy:



Mr wise who couldn't show photos from orun oba ado site despite your so much emphasis on it

Retarded bigot

All our comments are on goggle people out there are following up and taking note how foolish you are.....

Prove ife and benin connections you are busy citing authors

Fool

It's interesting to see that you signed your nickname, Fool, at the end of your comment here. hahah ... very satisfying.

TAO11:


Ask your parents to call me, I will show them pictures of their Obas' skulls.

I know my comments are on google. And I am so so so so excited about it. That's the idea. So that I reach a wide range and variety of audience that all may know the truth about the suzerainty of Ife over Benin Kingdom.

Shut up and read more of real history from your uncle (history as it was on ground) not the speculations from scholars that tried to unravel the myths about Ife.
Enjoy reading...


No part of Ekiti was spared the agony of imperialist invasions…The rampaging Benin armies sacked Ogotun, Aramoko, some subordinate communities of Ijero, Ado communities such as Are, Afao, Ugbo (now Ilu) Omoba and Agbado and settled a large percentage of the haul of captives therefrom in Ikere, their garrison post.


Benin armies constantly waged wars of external aggressions on Ekitiland and other communities in different parts of old Ondo State in their quest for territorial expansion and control, among others. A good reference point is the Ado-Ikere relations that resulted to Benin pillage and attacks on Ado-Ekiti on several occasion. Olomola (1984:2-3) noted that Benin armies invaded parts of Ado kingdom a few times between 1500 and 1815.. Olomola further asserted that the Ewi actually devise a strategy of evacuating his capital city so that the Benin armies would not disturb the Ewi and the rest of his people in their new site.
Odo which was, before the Benin invasion a town of considerable size, broke up as the people sought the safety of rocky and forest recesses and Uyin and Igede lost part of their population in their fight against Benin in 1815.

The development of the Ado Kingdom was seriously affected by external invasion. These resulted in series of demographic upheavals with settlements constantly moved from one site to another. The most serious of these external invasions were by the "Edo" of Benin. They attacked and destroyed many settlements…in the Ado Kingdom… The Edos were invited by Ogoga, the third time the Edos were so invited to settle the quarrel between Ado and Ikere. The line of action they resolved to adopt was to bring all the villages under the ewi to Ikere, settle them there and in this way Ikere would be equal or even bigger than Ado. Ado would then be afraid of Ikere. The Benin soldiers came and sent words to the Ewi Aroloye… He refused to surrender. He did not in any way show that he was not ready for fight. Every town or village under him except Ijan were prepared to fight…


Every town or village under him (Ewi) except Ijan were prepared to fight… The Benin soldiers stormed Igbara-Odo and Ilawe and took them. At this time, Ado town had been vacated. Aroloye took the people to a place called Oke Oko Axis between Ifaki and Iworoko. Most of the gods Ado worshipped on that side: Olua at Eyio, Obanifon at Esure and Are, Ogbese and Orisala at Iworoko. The soldiers pitched their camps near Uyin (Iyin)…Ogbesi Okun, the then Oluyin …was conquered and killed. They proceeded to Igede, Awo and Esure and took them. The inhabitants of Igede then uder Okiribiti were driven in a north-easternly direction to a place called Oke Asha…Edo troops then marched to Iworoko…The soldiers entered Are…The same fate befell Afao. They were all taken to Ikere. The soldiers moved to Igbemo …entered Igbo-Omoba (now Ilu-Omoba)…The soldiers left Aisegba for Agbado and without delay took it and evacuated the people. Agbado was the last place under the Ewi. With the conquest, of Agbado, the soldiers seemed to have finished their job…’

Ewi Idagunmodo (1696-1710), Ewi Okinbaloye Aritawekun (1710-1722), Ewi Amono Ola (1722-1762), Ewi Afunbiowo (1762-1781), Ewi Akulojuorun (1781-1808), Ewi Aroloye (1808-1836) who reigned at Ado but were attacked successively by Benin hordes…‘During the reign of Ewi Aroloye, Ado-Ewi’s kingdom witnessed massive dislocation across the terrain as town dwellers and villagers ran for safety in different directions. Many of the captives from Iworoko, Are, Afao, Ugboomoba (now Ilumoba) and Agbado were taken to Ukere by Benin invaders’."[/b]


So my dear TAO11 you can see from the above article how the Edos subjugated you Yorubas.. We owned the Yorubas.. They were our subjects.. Only mistake we made was sparing Ife. We should have burnt it to the ground too..

davidnazee:


[s]Shut up and read more of real history from your uncle (history as it was on ground) not the speculations from scholars that tried to unravel the myths about Ife.
Enjoy reading...


No part of Ekiti was spared the agony of imperialist invasions…The rampaging Benin armies sacked Ogotun, Aramoko, some subordinate communities of Ijero, Ado communities such as Are, Afao, Ugbo (now Ilu) Omoba and Agbado and settled a large percentage of the haul of captives therefrom in Ikere, their garrison post.


Benin armies constantly waged wars of external aggressions on Ekitiland and other communities in different parts of old Ondo State in their quest for territorial expansion and control, among others. A good reference point is the Ado-Ikere relations that resulted to Benin pillage and attacks on Ado-Ekiti on several occasion. Olomola (1984:2-3) noted that Benin armies invaded parts of Ado kingdom a few times between 1500 and 1815.. Olomola further asserted that the Ewi actually devise a strategy of evacuating his capital city so that the Benin armies would not disturb the Ewi and the rest of his people in their new site.
Odo which was, before the Benin invasion a town of considerable size, broke up as the people sought the safety of rocky and forest recesses and Uyin and Igede lost part of their population in their fight against Benin in 1815.

The development of the Ado Kingdom was seriously affected by external invasion. These resulted in series of demographic upheavals with settlements constantly moved from one site to another. The most serious of these external invasions were by the "Edo" of Benin. They attacked and destroyed many settlements…in the Ado Kingdom… The Edos were invited by Ogoga, the third time the Edos were so invited to settle the quarrel between Ado and Ikere. The line of action they resolved to adopt was to bring all the villages under the ewi to Ikere, settle them there and in this way Ikere would be equal or even bigger than Ado. Ado would then be afraid of Ikere. The Benin soldiers came and sent words to the Ewi Aroloye… He refused to surrender. He did not in any way show that he was not ready for fight. Every town or village under him except Ijan were prepared to fight…


Every town or village under him (Ewi) except Ijan were prepared to fight… The Benin soldiers stormed Igbara-Odo and Ilawe and took them. At this time, Ado town had been vacated. Aroloye took the people to a place called Oke Oko Axis between Ifaki and Iworoko. Most of the gods Ado worshipped on that side: Olua at Eyio, Obanifon at Esure and Are, Ogbese and Orisala at Iworoko. The soldiers pitched their camps near Uyin (Iyin)…Ogbesi Okun, the then Oluyin …was conquered and killed. They proceeded to Igede, Awo and Esure and took them. The inhabitants of Igede then uder Okiribiti were driven in a north-easternly direction to a place called Oke Asha…Edo troops then marched to Iworoko…The soldiers entered Are…The same fate befell Afao. They were all taken to Ikere. The soldiers moved to Igbemo …entered Igbo-Omoba (now Ilu-Omoba)…The soldiers left Aisegba for Agbado and without delay took it and evacuated the people. Agbado was the last place under the Ewi. With the conquest, of Agbado, the soldiers seemed to have finished their job…’

Ewi Idagunmodo (1696-1710), Ewi Okinbaloye Aritawekun (1710-1722), Ewi Amono Ola (1722-1762), Ewi Afunbiowo (1762-1781), Ewi Akulojuorun (1781-1808), Ewi Aroloye (1808-1836) who reigned at Ado but were attacked successively by Benin hordes…‘During the reign of Ewi Aroloye, Ado-Ewi’s kingdom witnessed massive dislocation across the terrain as town dwellers and villagers ran for safety in different directions. Many of the captives from Iworoko, Are, Afao, Ugboomoba (now Ilumoba) and Agbado were taken to Ukere by Benin invaders’."[/b]


So my dear TAO11 you can see from the above article how the Edos subjugated you Yorubas.. We owned the Yorubas.. They were our subjects.. Only mistake we made was sparing Ife. We should have burnt it to the ground too..[/s]

I have already flogged you mercilessly on these Bini manufactured copy and paste.

And you ran away n@ked with your tiny d!ck.


Must I flog you to death before you confess


The only incontrovertible, undeniable and blatant historical fact is that:

The Edos were subjugated and are still being subjected by the Ife-Yoruba since around the year 1200 till date and still counting.

TAO11:


Ask your parents to call me, I will show them pictures of their Obas' skulls.

I know my comments are on google. And I am so so so so excited about it. That's the idea. So that I reach a wide range and variety of audience that all may know the truth about the suzerainty of Ife over Benin Kingdom.

Davidnazee stop quoting fhis idiot he his obviously retard.......


He dubunked a full article you brought to him with just insult and not even mere claims or fact


Sometimes i think you're a mad woman behind the keys

Sorry to say but sincerely speaking you look mad
From your typing

gregyboy:

[s]Davidnazee stop quoting fhis idiot he his obviously retard.......
He dubunked a full article you brought to him with just insult and not even mere claims or fact
Sometimes i think you're a mad woman behind the keys
Sorry to say but sincerely speaking you look mad
From your typing[/s]

In your poor tiny Benin mind any piece of mumble-jumble is an article.

I won't blame a boy who can't tell the difference between a book and an article.

And the above Binin mumble-jumble is actually from neither.


BTW mr boy, in which journal was your Edo "aRtIcLe" with no name and author published??

TAO11:


I have already flogged you mercilessly on these Bini manufactured copy and paste.

And you ran away n@ked with your tiny d!ck.


Must I flog you to death before you confess


The only incontrovertible, undeniable and blatant historical fact is that:

The Edos were subjugated and are still being subjected since around the year 1200 till date and still counting.

The only way my dck can appear tiny is if ur tutu is very wide.. if it is not very wide (I don’t expect it to be tight) then my dck is big lol.

davidnazee:


[s]The only way my dck can appear tiny is if ur tutu is very wide.. if it is not very wide (I don’t expect it to be tight) then my dck is big lol.[/s]

That part pain am.

"you ran away n@ked with your tiny d!ck" Hahahahahahahahahah

TAO11:


In your tiny Benin mind any piece of mumble jumble is an article.

I won't blame a boy who can't tell the difference between a book and an article.


BTW mr boy, in which journal was your Edo "aRtIcLe" with no name and author published??

I have the name and author of the publisher but I won’t give it to u, make body Dey pepper u.
Unlike you, I’m not citing the works (speculation) of scholars who analyze ur myths to come up with stupid opinions.
My articles are from the type of history classified as reality.

davidnazee:


[s]I have the name and author of the publisher but I won’t give it to u, make body Dey pepper u.
Unlike you, I’m not citing the works (speculation) of scholars who analyze ur myths to come up with stupid opinions.
My articles are from the type of history classified as reality.[/s]

Wait!!! Did you really write "author of the publisher"

May be I'm even talking to a mad person sef ooo.



Anyways, whether you provide the name and the author of that Benin mumble-jumble or not, I have already debunked it when I flogged you terribly till you fainted.

TAO11:


That part pain am.

"you ran away with your tiny d!ck" Hahahahahahahahahah

Spoilt mad woman

Mad ladies still get Hot

gregyboy:



Davidnazee stop quoting fhis idiot he his obviously retard.......


He dubunked a full article you brought to him with just insult and not even mere claims or fact


Sometimes i think you're a mad woman behind the keys

Sorry to say but sincerely speaking you look mad
From your typing

Bro I don’t care about that idiot or what she or he thinks. I’m just bored I Dey use am kill the boredom.
This argument TAO is bringing up now is not new.. the Yorubas have been trying to paint their obscure history to make it look colourful.. TAO is just a new foolish fish in the pond.

gregyboy:



[s]Spoilt mad woman. Mad ladies still get Hot[/s]

If you dare cry, that's when I will even flog you the more.

davidnazee:

[s]Bro I don’t care about that idiot or what she or he thinks. I’m just bored I Dey use am kill the boredom.
This argument TAO is bringing up now is not new.. the Yorubas have been trying to paint their obscure history to make it look colourful.. TAO is just a new foolish fish in the pond.[/s]

Bored or not bored, I will flog lies away from your body soul and spirit.

TAO11:


Whether you give the name and author of the Benin mumble-jumble or not, I have already debunked it when I flogged you terribly till you fainted.

You haven’t started debunking yet oo. There’s a lot for u to debunk tonight. Time is 8.44 where u are so no worry we have the whole night.

TAO11:


Bored or not bored, I will flog lies away from your body soul and spirit.

I know it hurts knowing Oduduwa the father of Yoruba race is an Arabo.. u guys started out as a conquered race.

davidnazee:


You haven’t started debunking yet oo. There’s a lot for u to debunk tonight. Time is 8.44 where u are so no worry we have the whole night.

Okay think about this: What if you get sooooo stooopeeeeedt that I can tolerate it anymore??


Will you still insist I must continue flogging you

davidnazee:


I know it hurts knowing Oduduwa the father of Yoruba race is an Arabo.. u guys started out as a conquered race.

Only that he is an Ife-Yoruba man --- a fact that continuously makes you think of the image below.



But you admitted to be from a lost tribe sha. Oh my ....

davidnazee:


Shut up and read more of real history from your uncle (history as it was on ground) not the speculations from scholars that tried to unravel the myths about Ife.
Enjoy reading...


No part of Ekiti was spared the agony of imperialist invasions…The rampaging Benin armies sacked Ogotun, Aramoko, some subordinate communities of Ijero, Ado communities such as Are, Afao, Ugbo (now Ilu) Omoba and Agbado and settled a large percentage of the haul of captives therefrom in Ikere, their garrison post.


Benin armies constantly waged wars of external aggressions on Ekitiland and other communities in different parts of old Ondo State in their quest for territorial expansion and control, among others. A good reference point is the Ado-Ikere relations that resulted to Benin pillage and attacks on Ado-Ekiti on several occasion. Olomola (1984:2-3) noted that Benin armies invaded parts of Ado kingdom a few times between 1500 and 1815.. Olomola further asserted that the Ewi actually devise a strategy of evacuating his capital city so that the Benin armies would not disturb the Ewi and the rest of his people in their new site.
Odo which was, before the Benin invasion a town of considerable size, broke up as the people sought the safety of rocky and forest recesses and Uyin and Igede lost part of their population in their fight against Benin in 1815.

The development of the Ado Kingdom was seriously affected by external invasion. These resulted in series of demographic upheavals with settlements constantly moved from one site to another. The most serious of these external invasions were by the "Edo" of Benin. They attacked and destroyed many settlements…in the Ado Kingdom… The Edos were invited by Ogoga, the third time the Edos were so invited to settle the quarrel between Ado and Ikere. The line of action they resolved to adopt was to bring all the villages under the ewi to Ikere, settle them there and in this way Ikere would be equal or even bigger than Ado. Ado would then be afraid of Ikere. The Benin soldiers came and sent words to the Ewi Aroloye… He refused to surrender. He did not in any way show that he was not ready for fight. Every town or village under him except Ijan were prepared to fight…


Every town or village under him (Ewi) except Ijan were prepared to fight… The Benin soldiers stormed Igbara-Odo and Ilawe and took them. At this time, Ado town had been vacated. Aroloye took the people to a place called Oke Oko Axis between Ifaki and Iworoko. Most of the gods Ado worshipped on that side: Olua at Eyio, Obanifon at Esure and Are, Ogbese and Orisala at Iworoko. The soldiers pitched their camps near Uyin (Iyin)…Ogbesi Okun, the then Oluyin …was conquered and killed. They proceeded to Igede, Awo and Esure and took them. The inhabitants of Igede then uder Okiribiti were driven in a north-easternly direction to a place called Oke Asha…Edo troops then marched to Iworoko…The soldiers entered Are…The same fate befell Afao. They were all taken to Ikere. The soldiers moved to Igbemo …entered Igbo-Omoba (now Ilu-Omoba)…The soldiers left Aisegba for Agbado and without delay took it and evacuated the people. Agbado was the last place under the Ewi. With the conquest, of Agbado, the soldiers seemed to have finished their job…’

Ewi Idagunmodo (1696-1710), Ewi Okinbaloye Aritawekun (1710-1722), Ewi Amono Ola (1722-1762), Ewi Afunbiowo (1762-1781), Ewi Akulojuorun (1781-1808), Ewi Aroloye (1808-1836) who reigned at Ado but were attacked successively by Benin hordes…‘During the reign of Ewi Aroloye, Ado-Ewi’s kingdom witnessed massive dislocation across the terrain as town dwellers and villagers ran for safety in different directions. Many of the captives from Iworoko, Are, Afao, Ugboomoba (now Ilumoba) and Agbado were taken to Ukere by Benin invaders’."[/b]


So my dear TAO11 you can see from the above article how the Edos subjugated you Yorubas.. We owned the Yorubas.. They were our subjects.. Only mistake we made was sparing Ife. We should have burnt it to the ground too..

When Ogedengbe came to sack Benin why did Oba appease him and begged for peace?

Why didnt Benin face and fight him?


I have the record. Lie so I can upload it.

MetaPhysical:


When Ogedengbe came to sack Benin why did Oba appease him and begged for peace?

Why didnt Benin face and fight him?


I have the record. Lie so I can upload it.

Hahahahahahaha. Please don't kill me with laughter MetaPhysical

That davidnazee guy right now (see below)

MetaPhysical:


When Ogedengbe came to sack Benin why did Oba appease him and begged for peace?

Why didnt Benin face and fight him?


I have the record. Lie so I can upload it.

Please post the record, post all of it and not parts. I have the record too..
Ogedengbe fled after he was warned of Benin soldiers marching on him. Maybe if u post all the record foolish TAO11 will see where it was mentioned that Benin Kingdom helped the Ekiti parapo in their war with Ibadan.

davidnazee:


Please post the record, post all of it and not parts. I have the record too..
Ogedengbe fled after he was warned of Benin soldiers marching on him. Maybe if u post all the record foolish TAO11 will see where it was mentioned that Benin Kingdom helped the Ekiti parapo in their war with Ibadan.

Shut up, your Oba rolled on the floor begging and promising to offer Ogedengbe some of his queens. /s


And kingdoms have been forming military alliances with each other since God knows when.

Benin once offered to form alliance with Otun-Ekiti after the latter had decimated Benin in a clash leading to the death of some Benin military chiefs.

TAO11:


Shut up, your Oba rolled on the floor begging and promising to offer Ogedengbe some of his queens. /s

I wonder how u would feel if we had actually burnt down Ife the way we burnt many Yoruba towns and villages when we were colonizing all of Yorubaland.
Abi u want to say we weren’t capable of doing it?

davidnazee:


[s]I wonder how u would feel if we had actually burnt down Ife the way we burnt many Yoruba towns and villages when we were colonizing all of Yorubaland.
Abi u want to say we weren’t capable of doing it?[/s]

The colonized one, who continues to be citizen of an Ife-colony (i.e. Ubinu kingdom), is here talking about colonizing others. How m0r0nically ironic!!!

see ogendengbe at your back!! na joke oo, no go fear die.

TAO11:


The colonized one, who continues to be citizen of an Ife-colony (i.e. Ubinu kingdom), is here talking about colonizing others. How m0r0nically ironic!!!

see ogendengbe at your back!! na joke oo, no go fear die.

Who conquer and colonize who lol. Well it’s okay to push back at reality, u are being patriotic.. even the village u came from was once under the rule of Edo people.

Lol @ ubini Kingdom.. do u even understand that the word Ile Ibinu was a Yoruba label for the Edo people due to the constant wars Edo kings waged on Oyo empire and the Yoruba people. Yoruba people called Edo as Ado and not ibinu or ubini.
U know nothing.

davidnazee:


[s]Who conquer and colonize who lol. Well it’s okay to push back at reality, u are being patriotic.. even the village u came from was once under the rule of Edo people.

Lol @ ubini Kingdom.. do u even understand that the word Ile Ibinu was a Yoruba label for the Edo people due to the constant wars Edo kings waged on Oyo empire and the Yoruba people. Yoruba people called Edo as Ado and not ibinu or ubini. U know nothing.[/s]

Not only did Ife conquer Ubinu kingdom. It actually continues to do so till date through the Ife dynasty there as I speak.

Even in the neighbouring Eastern Yoruba frontiers, Ubinu kingdom didn't do any better.

The first engagement Benin army had with Owo army ended in a disgraceful defeat of the Bini, where Iken himself (the Benin military commander) was slaughtered and his platoons scattered in disarray with some captured and kept back in Owo.


The name Benin is a Portuguese mispronounciation of the original name, Ubinu --- as given by your master Oranmiyan.

So, the name you love to be identified with today (Benin) is a MISTAKE. I wonder if you too aren't a mistake.

davidnazee:


Who conquer and colonize who lol. Well it’s okay to push back at reality, u are being patriotic.. even the village u came from was once under the rule of Edo people.

Lol @ ubini Kingdom.. do u even understand that the word Ile Ibinu was a Yoruba label for the Edo people due to the constant wars Edo kings waged on Oyo empire and the Yoruba people. Yoruba people called Edo as Ado and not ibinu or ubini.
U know nothing.

Like I was saying Ubinu was the name given by Oranmiyan. It got mispronounced by his Edo slaves as Ubini, and later as Bini, before the Portuguese stamped the mistake, Benin.

So your present name is a mistake.


And regarding Ado. That's the name of your primary city, the seat of your government, since the earliest times.

It was known as ADO by your people themselves (not merely Yorubas).

Edo is a different name that came centuries later.



See below for evidence on Ado:

(a) In the Volume 1, Part 3 of Dr. R. E. Bradbury's "The Benin Kingdom and the Edo-Speaking Peoples of South-Western Nigeria", he lists, on page 170, R. E. Dennett's 1903-4 classic amongst his linguistic bibliographies.

The title of R. E. Dennett's work shown under the bibliography helps to shed some interesting light on the name "Ado" for "Benin". The title of the work is as follows:

""Notes of the language of the Efa or Bini, commonly called UZE-ADO." African Affairs, III, ..."

It therefore becomes clear from the foregoing that not only is "Ado" another name for "Benin", it is in fact an endonym.


(b) Furthermore, "The Saturday Review of Politics, Literature, Science and Art", Volume 83, (1897), pp.81-82., reads the following under the sub-heading 'BENIN':

"Another little war is teaching the British taxpayer what there is to know about Benin. It is not much. ... : "The Bight of Benin! the Bight of Benin! From which few come out -- though many go in!" The town of Benin, or Ado, as it is called by its inhabitants, lies some sixty odd miles inland from the coast, ..."

The two foregoing historical information, therefore, show clearly --- without a shred of reasonable doubt --- that the name "Ado" for "Benin" (by the Binis themselves) is in fact astonishingly historically accurate.

TAO11:


Not only did Ife conquer Ubinu kingdom. It actually continues to do so till date through the Ife dynasty there as I speak.

Even in the neighbouring Eastern Yoruba frontiers, Ubinu kingdom didn't do any better.

The first engagement Benin army had with Owo army ended in a digraceful defeat of the Bini, where Iken himself the Benin military commander himself was slaughtered and his platoons scattered in disarray with some captured and kept back in Owo.


The name Benin is a Portuguese mispronounciation of the original name, Ubinu --- as given by your master Oranmiyan.

So, the name you love to be identified with is a MISTAKE. I wonder if you too aren't a mistake.

Owo defeated Benin and was still paying tributes and a vassal to Benin kingdom lol.. U are a joke

davidnazee:


[s]Owo defeated Benin and was still paying tributes and a vassal to Benin kingdom lol.. U are a joke[/s]

Somone defeated you, and you're still here deceiving your gullible mind of audio tribute. ... Tribute ko, tinubu ni.

Moreover, it wasnt once that Owo defeated Benin.

The first I mentioned was when Iken (your military commander) was massacred. And that was the first engagement in the 1400s.

The second one was during the reign of Olowo Osogboye. Benin was routed outside the village of Ute in around the year 1630.

2 - 0 so far.

You need more?

They have obviously deceived you too much in that your Benin kingdom.

davidnazee:


Please post the record, post all of it and not parts. I have the record too..
Ogedengbe fled after he was warned of Benin soldiers marching on him. Maybe if u post all the record foolish TAO11 will see where it was mentioned that Benin Kingdom helped the Ekiti parapo in their war with Ibadan.

Ogedengbe fled ke....abi your king bribed him to leave Benin alone?

How about when Igala marched out to invade Benin, didnt your king send fresh virgin Edo pussies as bribe to beg the warriors to reconsider?


Dont worry.
You want cry again today. Youve been down this path before.


Cc
Mayor of lagos

Your Bini cousins need your attention here o.

[quote author=OgboAto post=88340180]


Johnson was at no time a historian, he was a doctor who reduced Oyo history for Yoruba & his contemporary events to writing. The latter part containing data on the Ekitiparapo wars & the establishment of colonial government are regarded among the academic historians as solid.

Having said that, the only reason the early history of Ife [not necessarily the whole of Yoruba] appears not to add up is because the Oyo who had some of the early writers and close contacts with the European skewed history to give their throne a background for the fraudulent position they ascribed to it & have continued to struggle to sustain by citing archival documents about salary scale and signatures with the Europeans - former was based solely on population & the latter was based on Samuel Johnson factor as he acted as the Alaafin's interpreter/writer among other factors.

This misfired and baseless history was what Bini king attempted to provide an alternative for. There really is no problem to be resolved, everyone just needs to recognise that Oyo's history is not Yoruba's national history and certainly not the history of Ile-Ife.[/quote]


Samuk says

I don't believe we are saying different things by saying that Oyo history is not Yoruba's national history and certainly not the history of Ile-Ife.

Your other Yoruba folks around here are trying to portray Yoruba history as always being one in other to confuse the less informed and I believe they have alot to learn from people like yourself in this regard.

Like you have shown and admitted to, Oyo history and Ife history disagree on the origin of Oduduwa.

Yoruba people and history have not always been the same like some of your comrades here are making it to be.

I know you are sometimes forced to applaud their deliberate attempts to reverse the well known and well documented history of Benin and various Yoruba tribes.

From what I have seen from your submission, you are a world apart from these guys and you will be doing yourselves a great disservice to be referring to some of them as educated, at best they are educated illiterates steep in tribalism.

The beauty of all these debates, is that other tribes apart from the Yoruba and Edo, will have the opportunity to read for themselves, the various accounts from both sides and make an informed decision.

In the absence of history in our schools for our youngsters, threads like this becomes a veritable vehicle to teach our past histories.

Irrespective of the tribal bantering, there are enough irrefutable evidence and materials on this thread that can't just be wished away.

The funniest thing is that some of us here may even be related in some ways without knowing it.

Reading through the article provided by Davidnazee, written by your fellow Yoruba, the account of how Benin once populated eastern Yoruba land with Benin people and the constant interference of the Benin army to defend these people against their other Yoruba neighbours such as Ado, struck me.

Many years back, I read similar account from Bolaji Aloku, first VC of Otueke University.

The descendants of these people may even be here fighting their brothers without knowing it.

MetaPhysical:


When Ogedengbe came to sack Benin why did Oba appease him and begged for peace?

Why didnt Benin face and fight him?


I have the record. Lie so I can upload it.

Hahahaha yoruba people sha very funny tribe


Wait o wat can a can probably use to appease a conqueror that he won’t have if he conquered the kings kingdom hahaha

What did oba of Benin appease ogendegbe with
17 virgins����, and if that was to be ogendegbe would have conquered Benin still and have the entire virgin lady to himself

The stupid ijesha man who lost is way while waging war with his Yoruba people mistakenly ventured into edo state unknowingly when report came to the oba ogendegbe was in edo north he immediately disparse a general from edo central who later overthrew him and his army back he never even got to edo central not to say benin

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