eph12:

Lol politicians are accountable to us. We get to vote them out if they mess up. It's not the same thing with pastors

If I slap you ehn! Which f00lish politician is accountable to you? You sabi wetin you just type for there at all? The king in your village is still accountable to you abi? I go e-slap you this morning ephraim.

Victornezzar:

This happened yesterday....
Omojuwa was taken to the cleaners that he had to block Imam...

Lol. Omojuwa claimed he was blocked an hour before the imam says omojuwa block him but somehow it’s omojuwa that is lieing.

diggz:


If I slap you ehn! Which f00lish politician is accountable to you? You sabi wetin you just type for there at all? The king in your village is still accountable to you abi? I go e-slap you this morning ephraim.

But politicians are “meant” to be accountable to those that elected them, NO?

Ibime:


Catholic Church do not have much issues with Science. Any issue you can bring is mostly moral or ethical issues.

All these developed countries you are seeing now fought their religious authorities to a standstill and made them respect reason over religion. Catholic Church killed a lot of people for saying the Earth is round. Their populace taught them a bloody lesson and put them in their place, to where if the State says penicillin kills Bacteria, they would not argue again.

Any society that made progress limited the effect of development-hampering Religion on their people. Even China had to shut that shït down in their quest for progress. Yes, we will celebrate religous holidays. We will give the Church a seat in the infrastructure of the State in recognition that it is part of our culture. We will even claim the religion and identify as Christians or Muslims, but we will not allow medieval thinking hamper our progress.

That's just my own.

Are you now claiming our churches have issues with science because some pastors made a mistake with the 5G/covid19 issue?

diggz:


Ogbeni no be only naija pastors dey talk about tithe. If you like pay, if you no like no pay. Na your personal business be that one.

Oga, my wife and Children attend Church of England and I join them at times. We don't pay any tax. I've never heard any preaching about offering or tithe. If we put £5 inside collection plate make them take am like that. Na wetin most people dey put inside. If not for shame, na coins I go put inside sef.

Do you know any Catholic that pays a fixed percentage of their income?

Na only Pentecostals go dey talk tithe, some even carry first fruit add. I'm not talking just Naija, but Pentecostals everywhere, although our Naija ones take it to another level.

diggz:


If I slap you ehn! Which f00lish politician is accountable to you? You sabi wetin you just type for there at all? The king in your village is still accountable to you abi? I go e-slap you this morning ephraim.

Because we no sabi our right from left no mean say right and left no dey. If politician no dey accountable to us, its our fault, not the politicians fault

Wetin concern king with this talk now?

larride:


But politicians are “meant” to be accountable to those that elected them, NO?

Meant? But are they in anyway accountable to those that elected them?

eph12:

Because we no sabi our right from left no mean say right and left no dey. If politician no dey accountable to us, its our fault, not the politicians fault

Wetin concern king with this talk now?

Which useless right? Chinese people no sabi their rights or Russians no sabi their right or those in majority of middle east no sabi their rights?

larride:


Lol. Omojuwa claimed he was blocked an hour before the imam says omojuwa block him but somehow it’s omojuwa that is lieing.

Was anyone accused of lying there?

diggz:


Which useless right? Chinese people no sabi their rights or Russians no sabi their right or those in majority of middle east no sabi their rights?

Your right is the constitution. As a Nigerian, your right is the constitution of Nigeria and not that of USA.

Ibime:


Oga, my wife and Children attend Church of England and I join them at times. We don't pay any tax. I've never heard any preaching about offering or tithe. If we put £5 inside collection plate make them take am like that. Na wetin most people dey put inside. If not for shame, na coins I go put inside sef.

Do you know any Catholic that pays a fixed percentage of their income?

Na only Pentecostals go dey talk tithe, some even carry first fruit add. I'm not talking just Naija, but Pentecostals everywhere, although our Naija ones take it to another level.

When last did you attend the organised churches in Nigeria? I don tell you say you no sabi wetin you dey talk. I am from a catholic home. Na father bury my papa.

Bros...even the dey of the burial mass be like say na banza...na from one offering to another naim father dey mention.

Meanwhile just because those western churches done slow down on money matters no mean say they were not deeply involved in it in the past.

Ibime:


There is one of my friend in UK who insist on paying 10% of his Gross income as tithe. I asked him, why not on Net income, but he insist it must be Gross.

So he will pay 20% income tax, 12% National Insurance, then 10% Tithe

Some people are in 40% tax bracket and will be paying 40% Income tax, 12% National Insurance, Council tax (£200 per month), then another 10% Tithe on top. Is that not stüpidity.

Why will I be paying such level of tax to my Govt, then still go and add another 10% for Jewish medieval Govt. Am I taking care of Levites?

Plus other personal expenses.. He no try..
If I'm a Nigerian earning 100k. I'll use that 10% and be my own government small.. that can buy me fuel for generator for one to two weeks

I still believe some churches need funding though at least till our country gets things right. If you've been to orphanages and schools run by churches.. you'll appreciate them but they are mostly Anglican and Catholic churches.

diggz:


When last did you attend the organised churches in Nigeria? I don tell you say you no sabi wetin you dey talk. I am from a catholic home. Na father bury my papa.

Bros...even the dey of the burial mass be like say na banza...na from one offering to another naim father dey mention.

Did any Catholic priest ask you for 10%? He may pressure you for offerings, but the minute he start talking tithe or any prescribed percentage, he knows Diocese will recall him and redeploy him to Seminary in Maidugiri.

Ibime:


Did any Catholic priest ask you for 10%? He may pressure you for offerings, but the minute he start talking tithe or any prescribed percentage, he knows Diocese will recall him and redeploy him to Seminary in Maidugiri.

Why is this even acceptable and the other is not? Pressure 10%, pressure 20times offering, building projects etc in one mass. What is the difference? Pressure na pressure...if you call one evil, please name the rest as such.

My Super Eagles Eleven
Enyeama

Yobo. Okechukwu Taribo West. Babayaro
Oliseh Adepoju
Finidi George. Amunike

Odebami Yekini

diggz:


Why is this even acceptable and the other is not? Pressure 10%, pressure 20times offering, building projects etc in one mass. What is the difference? Pressure na pressure...if you call one evil, please name the rest as such.

The pressure is only Naija hungry man factor, same way your village boys will pressure you to drop dolapo before you sink borehole in your village. No Catholic priest can point to any document from Vatican prescribing certain tithes, offerings or levies. If enough people have evidence against the father doing such, Diocese go redeploy am to Ogoni.

Amoto94:
My Super Eagles Eleven

Enyeama


Yobo. Okechukwu Taribo West. Babayaro

Oliseh Adepoju

Finidi George. Amunike


Odebami Yekini

I am surprised you didn't put Mikel obi. Why the nostalgic towards old players.

Ibime:


The pressure is only Naija hungry man factor, same way your village boys will pressure you to drop dolapo before you sink borehole in your village. No Catholic priest can point to any document from Vatican prescribing certain tithes, offerings or levies. If enough people have evidence against the father doing such, Diocese go redeploy am to Ogoni.

Story bro.

Izzou just summarize and put my own agenda forward for this entire discourse.

Ibime:


Did any Catholic priest ask you for 10%? He may pressure you for offerings, but the minute he start talking tithe or any prescribed percentage, he knows Diocese will recall him and redeploy him to Seminary in Maidugiri.

So your issue is with the term, not the act? Would it be better if they rename it to something else? Because this looks like you're saying that if you want to give all your money, its ok as long as you don't call it tithe

diggz:


Meant? But are they in anyway accountable to those that elected them?

Yes they are accountable, that is why even if they loot, they look for an excuse to justify their loot.

Swissh:

I am surprised you didn't put Mikel obi. Why the nostalgic towards old players.

Adepoju scored provide goals as a midfielder and also hardworking, Oliseh tenacity, aggression and leadership qualities placed him ahead of Mikel. The older players gave their all despite the failings of NFA in taking care of their welfare I can't say same for the latter generation.

diggz:


Story bro.

Izzou just summarize and put my own agenda forward for this entire discourse.

Same here..he hit the nail on the head.. I'm a Christian and no pastor will scam me or anything but I don't criticize people pay tax.. dem no complain and they were not forced

Swissh:

I am surprised you didn't put Mikel obi. Why the nostalgic towards old players.

They should have included muri thunder too I heard he got deadly shots

eph12:

Was anyone accused of lying there?

Yes. An hour after omojuwa showed screenshot that he has been blocked by the imam, the imam now came to show screenshot that omojuwa blocked.

Nezzar is saying omojuwa blocked the imam first when it was the other way round.

airmark:




Ok

He did not lie.

eph12:

So your issue is with the term, not the act? Would it be better if they rename it to something else? Because this looks like you're saying that if you want to give all your money, its ok as long as you don't call it tithe

Giving is completely voluntary. It should not be emphasised in Church.

izzou:
It's only in Nigeria that the people will queue under sun to vote Buhari and Jonathan, then come back to ask for good roads and hospitals from their churches

Every tithe preaching pastor is a thief? Let me agree with that.
Did they force Nigerians to pay tithes?

I am a Christian and Adeboye, Oyedepo, Oyalhilome, and all of them have never eaten my #1. So how are they thieves? If their members feel they need to pay them for whatever reason, how is that the problem of the country?

Some say their members are poor and they are living large....Maybe you should attend a service in Ota or Oregun, and see the calibre of people paying millions as tithes. Whether these men are dubious or not, successful people believe them and pay their tithes.

The strength we use to label pastors as fraudsters and thrives, if channeled to your LGA chairman, we will have basic amenities in abundance

Our pastors and Imams are not our problem. It's the useless people we will vote in 2023 that will be the problem again

Well said.

larride:


Lol. Omojuwa claimed he was blocked an hour before the imam says omojuwa block him but somehow it’s omojuwa that is lieing.

... Saw when Omojuwa claimed that 1st

Imam sef dey overdo sometimes

odizeey:

He did not lie.

So God gave him the revelation and he did not disclose because he was scared of Interpol?

The man is a liar and a fraudster.

odizeey:

He did not lie.

I know

Ibime:


So God gave him the revelation and he did not disclose because he was scared of Interpol?

The man is a liar and a fraudster.

You have no proof bro.