raumdeuter:


BS

There are many givers who lack

There are many who dont give that never lack.

izzou:


Bill gates is the richest man in the world(I think) but he doesn't believe in God. Religious billionaires all over the world cannot smell his back

In Nigeria, Dangote is the richest man. He is a Muslim. In fact, the billionaires in Nigeria (almost all) have some form of religion. They believe in a "God". They pray and give alms, probably tithe too. Yet no Atheist billionaire in Nigeria can smell their back

So would I say our billionaires are stupid and confused for practicing religion?

Or do I just conclude that whatever they do works for them, and I should just find and accept whatever works for me?

BlueRayDick:


I think what he's saying is; Nigerian Billionaires are rich because of their hustle, sharp practices, having market monopoly in their industry, favor of Govt in power and so many varying factors and not necessary because of the alms they give or charity work they do.

How many Nigerian billionaires have monopoly over their markets?
Adenuga
Otedola
Maduka
Chukwuma
BUA group guy

Which one is enjoying monopoly?... Let's leave that argument first

So if Maduka, Dangote, Adenuga tells you they became rich because of God and giving, will you argue with them, or just let them be?

izzou:


Bill gates is the richest man in the world(I think) but he doesn't believe in God. Religious billionaires all over the world cannot smell his back

In Nigeria, Dangote is the richest man. He is a Muslim. In fact, the billionaires in Nigeria (almost all) have some form of religion. They believe in a "God". They pray and give alms, probably tithe too. Yet no Atheist billionaire in Nigeria can smell their back

So would I say our billionaires are stupid and confused for practicing religion?

Or do I just conclude that whatever they do works for them, and I should just find and accept whatever works for me?

BlueRayDick:


I think what he's saying is; Nigerian Billionaires are rich because of their hustle, sharp practices, having market monopoly in their industry, favor of Govt in power and so many varying factors and not necessary because of the alms they give or charity work they do.

raumdeuter:


Remove tithes and add tithe to others will they be as successful

If we have rich atheists who have never tithed then it blows away the theory

airmark:


Not everybody gets his riches from God.

You may be an Obatala worshipper and believes once you sacrifice (give) a ram and 7 lizards every month, you are expecting returns in cash and no need to give anybody money, before being blessed.

Beliefs differ. So you can't fault those that believe in tithes.

diggz:


Your mistake is that you think everyone who tithe do so because of monetary increase. You should do some more research if you want to keep up with this your argument.

I'm assuming you're aware that sex with those your oloshos is not for procreation purposes only, but for pleasure etc

Ogbeni do ya research well

izzou:


How many Nigerian billionaires have monopoly over their markets?
Adenuga
Otedola
Maduka
Chukwuma
BUA group guy

Which one is enjoying monopoly?... Let's leave that argument first

So if Maduka, Dangote, Adenuga tells you they became rich because of God and giving, will you argue with them, or just let them be?

izzou:


How many Nigerian billionaires have monopoly over their markets?
Adenuga
Otedola
Maduka
Chukwuma
BUA group guy

Which one is enjoying monopoly?... Let's leave that argument first

So if Maduka, Dangote, Adenuga tells you they became rich because of God and giving, will you argue with them, or just let them be?

BlueRayDick:


Well if u want to argue the market monopoly, I can categorically tell u at a point Otedola had monopoly for diesel importation in Nigeria. That was what one the factors that made him.

U are not getting it. Nobody will argue with u if u say u worship "shigidi" and it gave u money, what Dayo is oh saying it is ; it is easy to disprove that fact because the person did not sit idle and shigidi sprayed him money, rather he went on to hustle and do some other things....

I'm actually not arguing the fact....I'm only trying to point out his point which u don't seem to get from the conversation between u two

odizeey:

He is arguing wrongly.

Did the Bible which talks about tithing tell tithers to sit back and do nothing?
The Bible even says if you don't work you won't eat.

raumdeuter:


There are those who believe twins should be killed because they bring ill luck. Should that not be faulted also?

Anyone can believe anything but some can be faulted

Just like those who believed 5G caused Corona were faulted

odizeey:

He is arguing wrongly.

Did the Bible which talks about tithing tell tithers to sit back and do nothing?
The Bible even says if you don't work you won't eat.

airmark:


Murder is a crime, in any country. It will be a crime if a pastor brings gun or knife to stab you if you dont pay tithe, then you may have a point. Stop bringing ridiculous examples to argue your point.

raumdeuter:
The summary of mine is that you ONLY get rich by economic means not by spiritual means

If you have evidence of spiritual riches lets put it to test and isolate it or switch it with other scenarios to know the impact of that spiritual riches not by using economic means to get money and claiming its spiritual

Pastors getting rich is by economic means because when many people contribute to one person he will be rich even if he's an atheist

Why are the pastors not ignoring the economic factors and using spiritual means to get rich

Its like claiming I can use jazz to travel yet I still enter plane when I am going to America and claim its my jazz that's aiding the plane to move me to America

Isolate your jazz from planes and move with the jazz alone

Or put your jazz on a snail or tortoise and use it to get to America

Izzou airmark that is my point

odizeey:

Good. You've choosen to believe that we live in a world that is only physical. That's fine.

raumdeuter:
All the pastor preaching healing this is the time to prove themselves but no, they are all waiting for science to find a cure and later come to church to give the testimony

Why not enter Milan or Wuhan and lay hands on people to get healed

Skimpledawg:

Ignorance my brother, ignorance.

raumdeuter:


The church leader if he believed so will go to a bank collect a loan and use it to pay tithe to get that reward

It's similar to those MMM, drop 100k to get 1m. If it was sure you will not be hounding people for it but do it yourself.

There is no evidence that getting contract or becoming rich is tied to tithing because those who never tithed also became rich, just like no evidence that praying is why you pass an exam

raumdeuter:


You have yet to prove otherwise

E.g get to America without physical means just by spiritual means

larride:


Haba bros.

You only pay tithe from profit na.

odizeey:

I don't have anything to prove to you.

Why not ask Bill gates for his formula for wealth to see wether it will work for you, for proof sake.

raumdeuter:
The summary of mine is that you ONLY get rich by economic means not by spiritual means

If you have evidence of spiritual riches lets put it to test and isolate it or switch it with other scenarios to know the impact of that spiritual riches not by using economic means to get money and claiming its spiritual

Pastors getting rich is by economic means because when many people contribute to one person he will be rich even if he's an atheist

Why are the pastors not ignoring the economic factors and using spiritual means to get rich

Its like claiming I can use jazz to travel yet I still enter plane when I am going to America and claim its my jazz that's aiding the plane to move me to America

Isolate your jazz from planes and move with the jazz alone

Or put your jazz on a snail or tortoise and use it to get to America

Izzou airmark that is my point

raumdeuter:


Ok not loans. Sell his house and invest it in tithing scheme

raumdeuter:


Bill Gates is more brilliant than me and he developed a product everyone used. The day I can do that I will become as wealthy

odizeey:

Even if they go to wuhan to heal you will say it's all lies.

Let's not even go to the fact that this Corona has been around since last year and we have a good relationship with China, and despite that our cases are low. That one is a topic for another day.

raumdeuter:


Bill Gates is more brilliant than me and he developed a product everyone used. The day I can do that I will become as wealthy

thelastorca:


Why are people stealing women's underwear to make money when there is a giant market of oyibo bend down panties.

larride:


It seems you don’t understand the concept of tithing that you are even against.