davidnazee:


[s]You are not wise, so remain on the foolish lane.
You can shout from Oke Ora hills that ur father is Yoruba for as long as u like.
We all know he is not Yoruba. He is from Mecca.

FYI the Yorubas are generally regarded as a lost race. Many don’t actually know where they are from especially as u are descended from free slaves.[/s]

You just knew by yourself that I was wise without I having to say a word about it.

Why do you now see the need to contradict yourself?

davidnazee:


[s]I like this post from u. It is really interesting.
Now can u tell me Ife history that is not myth and legend?[/s]

What a pity!?

You're the reason why some are called deluded!

TAO11:


You just knew by yourself that I was wise without I having to say a word about it.

Why do you now see the need to contradict yourself?

I’m done with u. It has been confirmed by babaramota that oduduwa is from Mecca..
and u lost ur argument that Ife was an empire which ur brother has confirmed that it wasn’t,
and Benin colonized parts of Yoruba which was also confirmed by another Yoruba man.

So u can go back to clutching ur pillow while u mastubate ur destiny away lol.
Idiot....

davidnazee:


Benin Na winch, Yorubas are ritualists and skull miners. What is new? We don hear everything.

Who use people do juju and ritual pass Benin....in all of Nigeria?

Abi because we no dey report your daily diabolical bloodshed in Edo. ....

Your people go sacrificehumans cut out organs cook for your girls to reinforce for their journey to Italo.

No make me open youtube o.


See wetin happen here....
To reverse the blood oaths and curses witchdoctors put on your human trafficking business the Oba had to bring 600yr old juju to place curse.

Can you imaginr! Una dey use curse to reverse curse.

Use witch power to reverse witchery.

We no dey report una bloodhsed and other atrocitoes of witchery thats why you get mouth open to talk of ritual in Yorubaland.


Modified

BabaRamota1980:


Who use people do juju and ritual pass Benin....in all of Nigeria?

Abi because we no dey report your daily diabolical bloodshed in Edo. ....

Your people go sacrificehumans cut out organs cook for your girls to reinforce for their journey to Italo.

No make me open youtube o.


See wetin happen here....
To reverse the blood oaths and curses witchdoctors put on your human trafficking business the Oba had to bring 600yr old juju to place curse.

Can you imaginr! Una dey use curse to reverse curse.

Use witch power to reverse witchery.

We no dey report una bloodhsed and other atrocitoes of witchery thats why you get mouth open to talk of ritual in Yorubaland.

How does this add to our discussion of African history and heritage??
Try get some sense...

davidnazee:


[s]I’m done with u. It has been confirmed by babaramota that oduduwa is from Mecca..
and u lost ur argument that Ife was an empire which ur brother has confirmed that it wasn’t,
and Benin colonized parts of Yoruba which was also confirmed by another Yoruba man.
So u can go back to clutching ur pillow while u mastubate ur destiny away lol. Idiot....[/s]

Except that BabaRamota knew you to be SLOW. The joke always is on you --- you joke. You're not expected to realize it. That's the point!

Oduduwa is indigenous to Ife --- You may cry about this fact tonight as well --- if you please, but what I must not hear is that you comitted suicide.

And no no no. No Yoruba ever mentioned at anytime that Benin colo --- weytin. Don't make me think you still lie.

Rather, what they said which you also testified to is that the dynastic conquering of the Edos started by Oranmiyan in Edoland since the year c.1200 is not ending soon, until rapture comes.

The conquering of the Edos by the Ifes may be actually be continued in heaven if God and the Yorubas so please.

As regards masturbation, you better take your own advice and kill the sorrow I've inflicted you with by so doing.

Cheers!

davidnazee:


[s]How does this add to our discussion of African history and heritage??
Try get some sense...[/s]

There is nothing you write that makes sense even if it's just a dot.

davidnazee:


I’m done with u. It has been confirmed by babaramota that oduduwa is from Mecca..
and u lost ur argument that Ife was an empire which ur brother has confirmed that it wasn’t,
and Benin colonized parts of Yoruba which was also confirmed by another Yoruba man.

So u can go back to clutching ur pillow while u mastubate ur destiny away lol.
Idiot....

See how cheap your argument is.

Like a little kiddo.

Ife had always been an Empire. Ife was greater than Oduduwa.

Go and read that guy metaphysical. Read his past contributions in culture section. There was one he spoke about Nok and Ife and Oduduwa and the migrants from Asia Pacific. I cant recall the way he put it but very brilliant. It was the first time Ive seen anyone wrote very intelligently and convincing points about the connection between the epochs of Ife, the aboriginal Ife, the migrant Ife anf the collective Yoruba. I have googled to see if I can get the full information and could not find it...so I knew right there the guy did not lift the information from internet. Very concise.

If I see him I will ask him to please share it again.

Now when I read Attah...it brought back what metaphysical daid anf it makes sense.


Keep this in your mind and revisit when you return at daybreakfrom your midnight meeting.

Ask metaphysical to tell you about Ife and Nok.


God strike your nightbroom into pieces. Bloody witch!


Ive decided to ping him.


Cc
Metaphysical

TAO11:

There is nothing you write that makes sense even if it's just a dot.

He should stick to his task of flights at midnight.

Historical recall and truth finding is not part of witchery.

TAO11:


Except that BabaRamota knew you to be SLOW. The joke always is on you --- you joke. You're not expected to realize it. That's the point!

Oduduwa is indigenous to Ife --- You may cry about this fact tonight as well --- if you please, but what I must not hear is that you comitted suicide.

And no no no. No Yoruba ever mentioned at anytime that Benin colo --- weytin. Don't make me think you still lie.

Rather, what they said which you also testified to is that the dynastic conquering of the Edos started by Oranmiyan in Edoland since the year c.1200 is not ending soon, until rapture comes.

The conquering of the Edos by the Ifes may be actually continue in heaven if God and the Yorubas so please.

As regards masturbation, you better take your own advice and kill the sorrow I've inflicted you with by so doing.

Cheers!

...and we will continue to remind generations behind that Benin is Yoruba territory. The conquest is permanent!

Edo can vacate and return to Igalah if they dont like it.

nisai:
Oya tell me

Oh I didn't see this earlier.

The condition is:

If they stop lying.

But you and I know that's impossible unless there wont be any Nairaland thread/comment from Binis about Beni kingdom.

samuk:


I actually got it from one of Silversniper's replies
...

And I admitted this but clarified that this could only have happened in the early beginnings or infancy years of Oyo --- a time where it also payed tributes to an historically-inconsequential kingdom as Owu-Yoruba in the south, and also to the Bariba in the North-west and Nupe in the North-East.

I argued that there was no evidence or traces of such tribute payment from Oyo to anyone as soon as it attained imperial status having been forced (by the Owu, Bariba, and Nupe) to learn and perfect the art of war. 

In contrast, I showed evidence --- citing accounts recorded by Johnson and another account recorded independently by Crowther --- that at its height, The Great Oyo Empire collected tributes from Benin Kingdom. Benin Kingdom which was evidently weak and decimated by the time.

BabaRamota1980:


See how cheap your argument is.

Like a little kiddo.

Ife had always been an Empire. Ife was greater than Oduduwa.

Go and read that guy metaphysical. Read his past contributions in culture section. There was one he spoke about Nok and Ife and Oduduwa and the migrants from Asia Pacific. I cant recall the way he put it but very brilliant. It was the first time Ive seen anyone wrote very intelligently and convincing points about the connection between the epochs of Ife, the aboriginal Ife, the migrant Ife anf the collective Yoruba. I have googled to see if I can get the full information and could not find it...so I knew right there the guy did not lift the information from internet. Very concise.

If I see him I will ask him to please share it again.

Now when I read Attah...it brought back what metaphysical daid anf it makes sense.


Keep this in your mind and revisit when you return at daybreakfrom your midnight meeting.

Ask metaphysical to tell you about Ife and Nok.


God strike your nightbroom into pieces. Bloody witch!


Ive decided to ping him.


Cc
Metaphysical

See as you want to hang yourselves over Edo matter lol.
Ife an empire my foot.. goan sleep u stupid native doctor.

davidnazee:


[s]See as you want to hang yourselves over Edo matter lol.
Ife an empire my foot.. goan sleep u stupid native doctor[/s]

Shut up. Ife is an empire.

Benin is its toilet.

TAO11:


Shut up. Ife is an empire.

Benin is its toilet.

I told u before your problem is lack of p3nis, and you no go see any lol..

davidnazee:


[s]I told u before your problem is lack of p3nis, and you no go see any lol.. [/s]

Shut up and go have your 20th round of wa@nking for the day.

BabaRamota1980:


See how cheap your argument is.

Like a little kiddo.

Ife had always been an Empire. Ife was greater than Oduduwa.

Go and read that guy metaphysical. Read his past contributions in culture section. There was one he spoke about Nok and Ife and Oduduwa and the migrants from Asia Pacific. I cant recall the way he put it but very brilliant. It was the first time Ive seen anyone wrote very intelligently and convincing points about the connection between the epochs of Ife, the aboriginal Ife, the migrant Ife anf the collective Yoruba. I have googled to see if I can get the full information and could not find it...so I knew right there the guy did not lift the information from internet. Very concise.

If I see him I will ask him to please share it again.

Now when I read Attah...it brought back what metaphysical daid anf it makes sense.


Keep this in your mind and revisit when you return at daybreakfrom your midnight meeting.

Ask metaphysical to tell you about Ife and Nok.


God strike your nightbroom into pieces. Bloody witch!


Ive decided to ping him.


Cc
Metaphysical

Babaraaaaaamoooota!!
Oko dudu oko pupa
Oko borokini elepon mefa!

You don dissapear, we no see you again.

The nok story is not to be told to inferiors.. Its a guarded story among Yorubas. It tells of greatness of Oduduwa and his exploits.

TAO11:


Oh I didn't see this earlier.

The condition is:

If they stop lying.

But you and I know that's impossible unless there wont be any Nairaland thread/comment from Binis about Beni kingdom.

Lol, a very simple condition for cease-fire yet difficult for our pinocchio brothers from Edo.

Anyway, I want to advise you stop going the abusive way with them. I know they can be so annoying but Maintain your earlier stance (civility and amenity) it makes you more credible and honourable (as you have been of course) a pig should be left to dive alone in the swamp.

From my perception so far, you are very intelligent, strategic, tactical, meticulous and resilient. You are a bane to their lies and deceit here which they cannot silenced with facts hence the resort to meaningless jibes in other to pollute the thread and deem it thrash worthy by the modes. I believe we want it save for posterity purpose.

For these reasons, respond to their ignorant rants only and ignore their moronic rants.

Cheers

MetaPhysical:



Babaraaaaaamoooota!!
Oko dudu oko pupa
Oko borokini elepon mefa!

You don dissapear, we no see you again.

The nok story is not to be told to inferiors.. Its a guarded story among Yorubas. It tells of greatness of Oduduwa and his exploits.

double post

MetaPhysical:



Babaraaaaaamoooota!!
Oko dudu oko pupa
Oko borokini elepon mefa!

You don dissapear, we no see you again.

The nok story is not to be told to inferiors.. Its a guarded story among Yorubas. It tells of greatness of Oduduwa and his exploits.

That oriki na die

TAO11:


Oh I didn't see this earlier.

The condition is:

If they stop lying.

But you and I know that's impossible unless there wont be any Nairaland thread/comment from Binis about Beni kingdom.

The funny thing is you guys are telling your stories like you guys had any form of documentation at all

davidnazee:


See as you want to hang yourselves over Edo matter lol.
Ife an empire my foot.. goan sleep u stupid native doctor.

Lol, you wan use laff kill me ooh native doctor hahaha

TAO11:

Shut up and go have your 20th round of wa@nking for the day.

Wanking your smelly pussy while he covers his nose

Spit

MetaPhysical:



Babaraaaaaamoooota!!
Oko dudu oko pupa
Oko borokini elepon mefa!

You don dissapear, we no see you again.

The nok story is not to be told to inferiors.. Its a guarded story among Yorubas. It tells of greatness of Oduduwa and his exploits.

Shut up

You know edo people here are smart and they wouldn't buy mere tales not from the one coming from the people who didn't have any form of recording untill 100yrs ago

You know as soon as you post it, we will start detecting the lies and potholes in the story

Try it out

gregyboy:

[s]The funny thing is you guys are telling your stories like you guys had any form of documentation at all[/s]

gregyboy:

[s]Shut up

You know edo people here are smart and they wouldn't buy mere tales not from the one coming from the people who didn't have any form of recording untill 100yrs ago

You know as soon as you post it, we will start detecting the lies and potholes in the story. Try it out[/s]

There is no way you look at it, Yoruba always had documentations before Benin:

(1) Whether you look at it from the angle of indigenous documentations from the Yorubas and from the Binis, Yoruba was earlier.

Egharevba:- didn't begin writing until in the 1930s
vs.
Crowther, Lijadu, and Johnson :- all documenting in the 1800s.

(2) Whether you look at it from the angle of documentation by foreign travellers' on Yoruba and on Benin, Yoruba was still earlier.

João d'Aveiros on Ubinu kingdom :- late 1400s

Ibn Battûta on the Ife country:- early/mid 1300s

(3) Even if you regard artworks as documents, lol, the Yorubas' was still earlier.

The earliest known Ife artworks were at least 300 years earlier than the earliest known of the Binis.


Lobatan!

cc: nisai MetaPhysical

TAO11:




There is no way you look at it, Yoruba always had documentations before Benin:

(1) Whether you look at it from the angle of indigenous documentations from the Yorubas and from the Binis, Yoruba was earlier.

Egharevba:- didn't begin writing until in the 1930s
vs.
Crowther, Lijadu, and Johnson :- all documenting in the 1800s.

(2) Whether you look at it from the angle of documentation by foreign travellers' on Yoruba and on Benin, Yoruba was still earlier.

João d'Aveiros on Ubinu kingdom :- late 1400s

Ibn Battûta on the Ife country:- early/mid 1300s

(3) Even if you regard artworks as documents, lol, the Yorubas' was still earlier.

The earliest known Ife artworks were at least 300 years earlier than the earliest known of the Binis.


Lobatan!

cc: nisai MetaPhysical

Another lie

I showed you a beni artwork dating 1300Ad
14century same as yoruba earliest artwork

And i also gave reasons why ife art happened to have dated earlier to 12c because archeologist found it hard to get the exact date because of much impurites from the terracota heads which were made of sand and as a result mpurites in the artwork could dotter its dating

So the artworks are usually represented 12-14c
As estimate

Owo terracotta heads that is similar to ife terracotta with less impurites dates 14c and not 12c like they ascribed to ife

If we are to go by this analogy terracota heads were all made in the 14c and not 12


Cc davidnazee
Samuk

gregyboy:


Lol, you wan use laff kill me ooh native doctor hahaha

My broda, the name babaramota na native doctor name.

gregyboy:


Another lie

I showed you a beni artwork dating 1300Ad
14century same as yoruba earliest artwork

It’s only lies and fictitious tales they can only come up with. And painful thing for them is that no matter where they look in their history there will always be accounts of Edo sovereignty over their Yoruba kingdoms.

gregyboy:

[s]Another lie
I showed you a beni artwork dating 1300Ad
14century same as yoruba earliest artwork
And i also gave reasons why ife art happened to have dated earlier to 12c because archeologist found it hard to get the exact date because of much impurites from the terracota heads which were made of sand and as a result mpurites in the artwork could dotter its dating
So the artworks are usually represented 12-14c
As estimate
Owo terracotta heads that is similar to ife terracotta with less impurites dates 14c and not 12c like they ascribed to ife
If we are to go by this analogy terracota heads were all made in the 14c and not 12
Cc davidnazee
Samuk[/s]

davidnazee:

[s]It’s only lies and fictitious tales they can only come up with. And painful thing for them is that no matter where they look in their history there will always be accounts of Edo sovereignty over their Yoruba kingdoms.[/s]

Thank God you admitted my first 2 points by keeping shut and quiet on them in this reply of yours.

In other words, you admitted to have lied earlier on about your Benin kingdom having earlier historical writtings than the Yorubas.



Anyways, the 3rd one (about artwork) that you didn't concede here because of shame, you have already conceded it elsewhere that Ife artworks were at least 300 years earlier than the Binis.

I flogged you on that thread with facts until you ran for dear life. I am attaching the link to this comment here now.

Another shame loading for Benin Kingdom.

I will stop flogging them, ONLY if they stop lying; but it's looking like I won't stop flogging them anytime soon.


Modified:

Below is the link where I flogged you almost to death (till you managed to run away).

I demonstrated (while you adtimitted by running away) with results of thermoluminiscence dating that some of the earliest known Ife artworks date to the year c.1060.

While the earliest known that Benin can and has ever produced (which you also produced) was dated by the same thermoluminiscence dating to somewhere in the 1300s.

https://www.nairaland.com/5314103/benins-first-educated-nigerians-dr/5#81635807



I just disgraced you again as always.



A Quick and Simple Advice for the Binis:

If you kNOW that what you are typing is a lie (or you're not sure), just stop!

Because if you continue, and the comment gets to the public here, be sure that TAO11 will disgrace you.


Peace.

cc: nisai MetaPhysical

MetaPhysical:



Babaraaaaaamoooota!!
Oko dudu oko pupa
Oko borokini elepon mefa!

You don dissapear, we no see you again.

The nok story is not to be told to inferiors.. Its a guarded story among Yorubas. It tells of greatness of Oduduwa and his exploits.

Poor Babaramota, he didn't know that TAO11 has since droved Metaphysical away from this thread days ago.

The reasons Metaphysical would not dear share such history here are.

1. TAO11 warned him not to do so because such will spoil the Yorubas fabricated argument.

TAO11 even force Metaphysical to retract when he made the mistake of contradicting TAO11 on her Orun Oba Ado fallacy calling it stupid and referring to those that believe the crap to be stupid.

TAO11 gave him the matching order and asked him to leave the thread, which he did like a coward.

The only time you see him on his thread now is mostly to support whatever TAO11 says, he dears not come up with his own arguments the way you have just told us Oduduwa was from Mecca.

Unfortunately, the so called brilliant work you said he wrote is now going to die a natural death because TAO11 forbids him from sharing it to a public thread such as this.

It's only the Yorubas that will be sharing the work amongst themselves because it can't be backed up and defended with credible evidence.

2. If Metaphysical share that work, the Benin people around here will just walk all over it, pointing out all the contradictions, lies, illogical logics and baseless claims in it.

3. Unlike Babaramota that sees the work as brilliant, the Benin guys are way too smart to be fooled.

If you think I am lying, I challenged Metaphysical to share such work here.

If Metaphysical is not destroyed by TAO11, he will be destroyed by the Benins and even you Babaramota wouldn't be able to save him.

3. TAO11 believes her version of Yoruba history is the authentic and wouldn't entertain any other version from anyone else, certainly not from her small boy Metaphysical.

So Babaramota, you are on your own on this request.

If you think I am lying or joking, let him share it.

samuk:


[s]Poor Babaramota, he didn't know that TAO11 has since droved Metaphysical away from this thread days ago.

The reasons Metaphysical would not dear share such history here are.

1. TAO11 warned he not to do so because such will spoil the Yorubas fabricated argument.

TAO11 even force Metaphysical to retract when he made the mistake of contradicting TAO11 on her Orun Oba Ado fallacy calling it stupid and referring to those that believe the crap to be stupid.

TAO11 gave him the matching order and asked him to leave the thread, which he did like a coward.

The only time you see him on his thread now is mostly to support whatever TAO11 says, he dears not come up with his own arguments the way you have just told us Oduduwa was from Mecca.

Unfortunately, the so called brilliant work you said he wrote is now going to die a natural death because TAO11 forbids him from sharing it to a public thread such as this.

It's alone the Yorubas that will be sharing the work amongst themselves because it can't be backed up and defended with credible evidence.

2. If Metaphysical share that work, the Benin people around here will just work all over it, pointing out all the contradictions, lies, illogical logics and baseless claims in it.

3. Unlike Babaramota that sees the work as brilliant, the Benin guys are way too smart to be fooled.

If you think I am lying, I challenged Metaphysical to share such work here.

If Metaphysical is not destroyed by TAO11, he will be destroyed by the Benins and even you Babaramota wouldn't be able to save him.

Just let him try and share it.[/s]

Me: "Prove that your point is correct, and prove me wrong --- by citing independent academic evidence."


You: "I have a friend --- he is Yoruba --- He said I'm correct. So, I am correct"


Me: Like seriously!!??


It's too early for jokes. I can still feel abdominal pains caused by too much laughter from last night.


Wait a minute, samuk, what happened to your 18 summary points!!??

TAO11:


Me: "Prove that your point is correct, and prove me wrong --- by citing independent academic evidence."


You: "I have a friend --- he is Yoruba --- He said I'm correct. So, I am correct"


Me: Like seriously!!??


It's too early for jokes. I'm can still feel abdominal pains from last night.


Wait a minute, samuk, what happened to your 18 summary points!!??

Waiting for Metaphysical great and brilliant work according to Babaramota.