pu7pl3:


The only thing you are consistent in is displaying mesmerising idiocy.. Ray Hudson would have a field day commenting on how dumb you are

pu7pl3:


Ronaldo has scored 5 goals in UCL finals it's on record so please stop manufacturing lies...and he lifted those trophies like a boss

Unlike your midget that keeps crying and retiring

Melvyn11:

Tlona this is another fact dropped. How do you plead Lmao. Especially the Argentina part

pu7pl3:


The only thing you are consistent in is displaying mesmerising idiocy.. Ray Hudson would have a field day commenting on how dumb you are

ddippset:


Ray Hudson wouldn't take a job of running commentaries on your dumbness cus he'd finally be demystified after 25 years on the job.

He won't have the words.

TLona1:


That's cherry picking of the highest order.

Most goals and assists in 21 century - Lionel Messi

That's all that matters m

Expert17:

ddippset:


This one thinks he has succeeded in changing a Messi versus Ronaldo into a Messi versus His team mates stuff.

We were talking about choking.


Look at your stats below and tell us how Messi chokes more in finals than Ronaldo.

You can run away from anything, but I won't let you run away from this one.

This depiction is comprehensive. It's a tell it all diagram.

Let's work with this.

Oya analyze it.

Even the visiting idiots in your crew are reading.

TLona1:



Ronaldo flopped in 5 UCL finals out of 6

Pure fact

ddippset:


Ray Hudson wouldn't take a job of running commentaries on your dumbness cus he'd finally be demystified after 25 years on the job.

He won't have the words.

Now say this again without crying

I'm the puppeteer, you are wood, dead wood

pu7pl3:


The L you received from FergieRaww on that Ronaldinho debacle has clearly blocked the pathwaves of some neurons that flow to your brain

No need to beat a dead horse... remember?

ddippset:


The one with fewer goals and fewer assists helped his teammates more



WTF!!

Did these thoughts just come out of a head or an anus?

WTF!!

pu7pl3:


Have you seen how big of a fool you are? You kept talking about how Messi's teammates don't help him and I ask again WHO IS THE ONE HIS TEAMMATES HELP MORE? The one with more goals(cos many chances were created for him) and more assists (cos his teammates convert for him) or the one with less? And yet the Argentine Bilbo still fails to capitalise and get his motherland Something to be proud of

ddippset:


All I need in my life is an honest and unbiased analysis of the diagram below.

ddippset:


Ray Hudson wouldn't take a job of running commentaries on your dumbness cus he'd finally be demystified after 25 years on the job.

He won't have the words.

Melvyn11:
Firstbornwds we have moved over to defenders since none of your midfielders can compare up to Modric. Now how do you plead

FirstbornWds:



And what if he has scored most of those assisted goals against one or two or three teams?

What if most of those goals were accumulated against fewer teams in every participated finals. Or did you choose to forget that it's possible?

FirstbornWds:


Lol. In fact, an honest opinion about the matter will justify every rant.

FirstbornWds:


FergieRaww gave his opinion. I gave mine and we since moved on.


There's no how in the world anybody would agree that Ronnie was a forward. I still stand on that.

If you want, we can continue the debate. It's as simple as that.

Like I said earlier, engaging you in a discussion is like beating a dead horse. It'll only end up with you spewing thoughtless ideas and insults. But I don't blame you. It is what it is.

pu7pl3:


That parameter only helps to even make the goal accumulation less impressive for Mr Ragolis

pu7pl3:


Smh... shameless asslicking bigot...this isn't even ego, this is pure unadulterated buffoonery

Have sense or go to jail...you:

Melvyn11:
Cc Tlona, sommyroy, firstbornwds etc What do you make of this allegations. It's can't be true please debunk them .

ddippset:
So,

Player A has got 20 Goals and 10 Assists.
Player B has got 15 Goals and 3 Assists.


Purple Pussy postulates that Player A is the one being carried by his team mates..

This has to be the most idiotic comment ever made on the Nairaland internet.


Kai, walahi this kain stupidity fit cure corona ooh.

ddippset:
Cristiano Ronaldo vs Lionel Messi: 10 great managers that have answered the debate
givemesport.com Apr 12, 2020 4:26 PM

Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi are two of the greatest players of all time.

But who is better?

Many of the world's greatest managers in the world have answered the debate in the past.

Alex Ferguson, Diego Simeone and Jurgen Klopp are just three high-profile coaches that have given their opinion.

We've listed 10 legendary managers that have answered the debate and who they believed was better below.



1. Alex Ferguson - Cristiano Ronaldo
This isn't that surprising, given Ferguson brought Ronaldo to Manchester United and managed him for six years.

He outlined the differences between the two back in 2016.

“Now don’t get me wrong, Messi is a fantastic player, it’s like he’s wearing slippers when he controls the ball," he said in 2016, per Sports Illustrated.

"But here, for me, is the difference. Messi is a Barcelona player. But Ronaldo could play for Stockport County and score a hat trick. He has everything. He can shoot with both feet, head the ball, he’s as brave as a lion..."



2. Fabio Capello - Lionel Messi
Capello, who has been a critic of Ronaldo since he joined Juventus, went with Messi.

"It's one thing to be an outsider, and another thing, to be a genius," he told Marca, per calciomercato.

"The difference is enormous, since a genius does what nobody imagines. Ronaldo is an extraordinary footballer, but Messi is a genius."


3. Diego Simeone - Lionel Messi
A leaked WhatsApp clip in 2018 appeared to show Simeone claiming Ronaldo was better than Messi.

He clarified those comments shortly after and said that Messi was better.

"If I had to choose between Messi and Ronaldo then most likely I would choose Messi," Simeone told reporters, per Goal.

"Yes I said [Ronaldo] on the video, but the conversation was between me and [Atleti assistant] German Burgos, talking about football as everyone talks about it.

"When I talked about Messi and Ronaldo it wasn't from the perspective of who is the best in the world.

"I just meant that if you have the chance to sign one of them for a normal club, with normal players, Ronaldo would probably fit in better.

"But with Messi, surrounded by great players, Messi is better than Ronaldo."



4. Jurgen Klopp - Lionel Messi
Klopp made it clear he thought Messi was better when speaking at a Q&A in 2018.

“I have only one selfie on my smartphone. That’s with Messi. Cristiano Ronaldo was in the room as well…”



5. Zinedine Zidane - Cristiano Ronaldo
Zidane managed Ronaldo for many years so it's not much surprise he went with the Portuguese.

“Cristiano is the best. Messi is his rival and it's the rivalry everyone wants to see,” the Frenchman said.

“But Ronaldo is phenomenal. There are no words to describe him. He is much better than me even though I had a great career. He's the greatest of all time.”



6. Jose Mourinho - neither
In 2013, Mourinho said Ronaldo was the best. Three years later, he named Messi and not Ronaldo in his three greatest players of all time.

But, speaking to BeIN Sports last year, Mourinho refused to pick a favourite.

“I think it’s unfair to both of them when somebody [says] this one is better than the other one. I think they are just different,” he commented.

“When you go to Messi and Ronaldo, I think it’s just unfair to compare the players. The only thing I can say is that when I had Ronaldo on my side, I was a very happy man.

“And when I had to play against Messi - and also against Ronaldo because I played against Ronaldo a few times - I had to think a lot to try and help my team have chances to succeed."



7. Pep Guardiola - Lionel Messi
Guardiola managed Messi at Barcelona and in 2016, he said that the Argentine was on a different level to Ronaldo.

"Messi is the best, he is definitely the best," he said, per ESPN. "He knows how to play, score and make the other players play. He is always there.

"With all the respect to all the players, first to Cristiano Ronaldo -- congratulations to him for the award -- I think Messi is on another level."




8. Joachim Low - Lionel Messi
The World Cup winning manager was asked the question by Bild in 2018 and he went with Messi.

"I would stick with Messi," Low told Bild, per Goal.

"Cristiano Ronaldo is sensational, a very good professional, an incredible goalscoring machine for many years, but Messi is the most complete player I have seen.

"He is a great team player. He's provided 30 to 40 assists for the last 10 years as well as scoring around 50 goals.

"He's capable of leaving eight or nine players in his path and his goals always stay in your memory."



9. Arsene Wenger - neither
Wenger was asked about who he thought was better last September. Wenger doesn't like to compare the two, but did say managers would be more tempted by Messi.

“I would say that they are so good that it’s difficult to choose – in 10 footballers of the year, it’s five and five, so that shows they are really on the same level.

“Artistically, Messi is as well a guy who can give the final ball, so he’s maybe more a creative player than Ronaldo.

“Ronaldo is more a finisher, better in the air, more athletic, and Messi is the more artistic.

“So basically you are always tempted a little bit more by a player like Messi.”



10. Vicente Del Bosque - Lionel Messi
Real Madrid legend and World Cup winning manager Del Bosque went with Messi.

"He [Messi] almost always plays well," he told Mundo Deportivo, per Goal. "There are players who never do it wrong. He has an impressive regularity. He is a great player.

"I'm staying with Messi. I see a more natural soccer player, from his time in the neighbourhood, playing with friends on the street. Even so, Cristiano has extraordinary courage, with physical and technical conditions as a great scorer, but I'm staying with Messi."




Final tally:
Lionel Messi - 6

Cristiano Ronaldo - 2

Neither - 2

Out of the 10 great managers listed above, the majority went with Messi over Ronaldo.

But we think Wenger and Mourinho put it best. Both are both incredible footballers and will go down as two of the best ever.


10 Great Managers!

10 managers who know all about their careers both at club level and international level.



But some big ol' Pussies led by a purple one think they know better.

Sommyroy10:
Lol. That is true. But that is just a small water from the ocean man. You hardly see me argue this stuffs man. I just come and reply to facts that aren't that accurate or troll a bit when it is necessary. The word big game player is overused and overemphasized bro. It's not like your MCM has a better stats but that's another talk. Whether you agree or not, the amount of the man of the match award he has won in those KO matches is impressive. He chokes because he does not score? Or does not assist? I bet you, go and have a review of those KO matches, if possible watch the matches, tell me where he wasn't the better amongst the 22, where a player from his own team out performs him, include the opponents (I didn't say all, but majorly)

You call it Stat padding, but if he doesn't score against Nigeria, or Bosnia it's choking but if your MCM scores against Morocco, his jump celebration is higher than his former. Maradona that was praised for single handedly winning the world cup for Argentina, was misplaced in the final, but you don't see anyone crying cis other stepped up. The truth is your guy bleeped up with that screenshot he posted. The post was against everything he was saying.

This debate about who is greater is only between fans, Infact fan boys. The pundits, journalist, coach, greats, players that their opinion actually matter, has a harder time finding where to put Ronaldo in the GOAT list between 5th and 7th. While Messi is always between 1st and 2nd and do you think they don't know he has been to 4 finals and not won? It's more than that. Cheers

Now unto the defender debate, we didn't settle the midfielder own because you were biased baba. Now if you would agree that a defender can actually be better than Cannavaro despite his fifa best player award, we can engage.

FirstbornWds:


Just as I predicted.

You are just not bright...so you think cos you didn't quote me I won't see the insults and dish it right back at your petty medieval asslicking arse?

Lewl

FirstbornWds:



Bless you brother. Pu7pl3, comman take a look at this and see if you can find sense in it.