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Re: Re-inventor Of EMAIL Challenge. by Amujale(m): 8:25am On Apr 14, 2020 |
False Claim #12: “Email” has no single inventor Fact #12: Email had a single inventor, V A Shiva Ayyadurai Email has a single inventor. That inventor of email is VA Shiva Ayyadurai. For nearly a decade, Raytheon's subsidiary, BBN, has been falsely promoting that it hosts the "inventor of email", referring to their employee Ray Tomlinson. The news of the ceremony to honor the acceptance of Dr. Ayyadurai's 50,000 lines of code, tapes, papers and artifacts proving his invention of EMAIL, the first email system, by Smithsonian on February 16, 2012, appears to have caused great concern to BBN. BBN has put a great deal of effort to their own branding as innovators by presenting a public face that they are the “inventors of email”. This branding involves juxtaposing the “@” symbol with the face of Ray Tomlinson as the “inventor of email”. In fact, on BBN's home page the word "innovation" is visually juxtaposed next to the @ logo with Tomlinson's picture. Clearly, such a branding effort is to support BBN’s sales efforts. Following the news of Ayyadurai’s invention, BBN sent press releases re-asserting Tomlinson as the "inventor of email". Concurrent with these efforts to re-assert Tomlinson as the “inventor of email”, industry insiders, supported by SIGCIS “historians”, Ray Tomlinson, BBN supporters and ex-BBN employees continued to perpetuate a false history of email by discrediting Ayyadurai's invention. They used revisionism and confusion to redefine and misuse the term email. Through these efforts, they re-declared Tomlinson, and thereby the BBN brand, as the singular “inventor of email”, “Godfather of email” and “King of email”, as reported in poppular press during April 24 - 26, 2012.
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Re: Re-inventor Of EMAIL Challenge. by Amujale(m): 8:30am On Apr 14, 2020 |
EMAIL was named in 1978 in FOTRAN IV The FORTRAN IV compiler at the time being used at UMDNJ had a six-letter character limit on naming variables and subroutines. The operating system had an additional limit of five characters for the name of main programs. “EMAIL” was chosen as the name of the computer program for the system which would emulate the interoffice, inter-organizational mail system. The printout in the image below is just one example of the nearly 50,000 lines of code (there are other such examples on this website), that was submitted to the US Copyright Office and donated to the Smithsonian.
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Re: Re-inventor Of EMAIL Challenge. by Amujale(m): 8:35am On Apr 14, 2020 |
First Email System, 1980 The article article in the depiction below appeared in the West Essex Tribune entitled “Livingston Student Designs Electronic Mail System” on October 30, 1980. His independent study teacher and coordinator at Livingston High School, Stella Oleksiak, was persistent with the Superintendent of Schools, the Principal and other teachers, who originally did not want to allow a student to travel back and forth to work in Newark, NJ, for a variety of reasons. Through her efforts and the support of Dr. Leslie P. Michelson, Shiva was allowed, starting in 1978, to do the independent study. This article was an important one, for it demonstrated to the local school board and others, that the concept of Independent Study could lead to fruitful results. Each day, Shiva traveled nearly 30 miles to UMDNJ.
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Re: Re-inventor Of EMAIL Challenge. by Amujale(m): 8:40am On Apr 14, 2020 |
Westinghouse Award Finalist, 1981 The Westinghouse Science Talent Search, now known as the Intel Science Talent Search to, has been referred to as the ‘Baby Nobels.’” In 1981, V.A. Shiva Ayyadurai was awarded an Honors Group award for “The Software Design, Development and Implementation of a High-Reliability Network-Wide Electronic Mail System.”
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Re: Re-inventor Of EMAIL Challenge. by Amujale(m): 8:47am On Apr 14, 2020 |
MIT Tech, 1981 The incoming Class of 1985 to MIT entered in the Fall of 1981. The front-page article in Tech Talk, MIT's official newspaper highlighted the work of four incoming students, one being the invention of Email. Even while at MIT, Shiva continued, for a few more years to consult as a Research Fellow for UMDNJ to continue additional work on Email.
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Re: Re-inventor Of EMAIL Challenge. by Amujale(m): 8:50am On Apr 14, 2020 |
First U.S Copyright for EMAIL , 1982 In 1982, the U.S. Copyright Office issued TXu-111-775, the first Copyright for Email, to Shiva Ayyadurai. At that time, the only protection available for software was through Copyright. The U.S. intellectual property laws, at that time, treated software similar to music, art or literary work. The original Copyright application was submitted in 1980.
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Re: Re-inventor Of EMAIL Challenge. by Amujale(m): 8:54am On Apr 14, 2020 |
COMAND, 1982 Dr. Leslie Michelson, Ph.D., a former physicist was Shiva's mentor, who provided this unique opportunity and access to infrastructure at UMDNJ as well as other colleagues twenty to fifty years older than him. Dr. Michelson recruited Shiva to be a Scholar in his Lab after hearing about his work and results at the NYU Summer program, offered by Henry Mullish. Initially, there was no pay offered, but free lunch at the UMDNJ cafeteria. Later on, he earned $1.25 per hour. The screen you see on the left was the size of the display that one had to work with.
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Re: Re-inventor Of EMAIL Challenge. by Amujale(m): 9:00am On Apr 14, 2020 |
EMAIL User's Manual Copyright, 1982 Every software system needs a User's Manual, so did the world's first email system. At that time, Shiva was everything on the project: software engineer, network manager, project manager, architect, quality assurance AND technical writer. The User's Manual for which he received Copyright TXu-108-715 was also tested. He wrote and updated multiple versions based on feedback from his user base of doctors. It had to be easy-to-read and accessible to all.
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Re: Re-inventor Of EMAIL Challenge. by Amujale(m): 9:03am On Apr 14, 2020 |
EMS Copyright, 1984 In 1984, the U.S. Copyright Office issued TXu-169-126, the first Copyright for EMS (EMAIL Management System), to (V.A.) Shiva Ayyadurai. The EMAIL copyright had been awarded to Shiva two years earlier. This copyright recognized his additional contribution for creating all the internal tools needed by system administrators to maintain EMAIL and messages long-term, e.g. archiving, password management, etc.
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Re: Re-inventor Of EMAIL Challenge. by Amujale(m): 9:19am On Apr 14, 2020 |
Doug Aamoth from FRIENDS OF TECH interviewed V A Shiva Ayyadurai; the article is dated Nov 15, 2011 under the title: The Man Who Invented Email Here's an extract of the interview:-
Read the full interview here: https://techland.time.com/2011/11/15/the-man-who-invented-email/
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Re: Re-inventor Of EMAIL Challenge. by Amujale(m): 9:34am On Apr 14, 2020 |
CBS Innovation Nation with Mo Rocca Henry Ford's Innovation Nation with Mo Rocca Episode 13: The Inventor of Email Published on 4 May 2015, Dr Shiva was featured on one of the hottest science shows in America. The Emmy winning show is hosted by Mo Rocca and was broadcast on CBS TV. Here's the full interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWTvG6d908A |
Re: Re-inventor Of EMAIL Challenge. by Amujale(m): 9:42am On Apr 14, 2020 |
Statements from Noam Chomsky Prof. Noam Chomsky is an Institute Professor and Professor of Linguistics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. He is one of the most cited scholars in US history. He is a linguist, philosopher, cognitive scientist and activist. I. Some Reflections on the Invention of EMAIL by a 14-Year-Old in Newark, NJ II. The Invention of Email by a 14-Year Old in Newark, NJ in 1978: Noam Chomsky Speaks to the Terminology of "Email"
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Re: Re-inventor Of EMAIL Challenge. by Amujale(m): 9:49am On Apr 14, 2020 |
Some Reflections on the Invention of EMAIL by a 14-Year-Old in Newark, NJ March 2012 Noam Chomsky: I have known VA Shiva Ayyadurai since he was a sophomore at MIT, when he designed and pursued an Undergraduate Research Opportunities Program (UROP) on the origins and evolution of the Indian caste system. I have kept up with him since that time. I have now become aware of the controversy on the invention of Email following the recent Washington Post article.
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Re: Re-inventor Of EMAIL Challenge. by Amujale(m): 9:58am On Apr 14, 2020 |
The Invention of Email by a 14-Year Old in Newark, NJ in 1978
Noam Chomsky Speaks to the Terminology of “Email” Cambridge, Massachusetts., June 12, 2012 - Noam Chomsky: It is heartening to hear that the exposition of facts on the publicly available web site, http://www.inventorofemail.com is helping the public validate that a 14-year-old boy invented email in 1978, while working in Newark, NJ. What continue to be deplorable are the childish tantrums of industry insiders who now believe that by creating confusion on the case of "email", they can distract attention from the facts. Apart from the above statements, Noam Chomsky gave an interview to THE VERGE. Chomsky contends that "there is no controversy here, except the one created by industry insiders." In the summer of 1978, the then-14-year-old Ayyadurai first began work on EMAIL, a program he designed to emulate the interoffice paper mail system used at the University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey. The full interview is here: https://www.theverge.com/2012/6/13/3082157/noam-chomsky-shiva-ayyadurai-email-inventor
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Re: Re-inventor Of EMAIL Challenge. by Amujale(m): 10:12am On Apr 14, 2020 |
Recollections of a Mentor and Colleague of a 14-Year-Old, Who Invented Email in Newark, NJ Dr. Leslie P. Michelson, currently Director of the High Performance Computing Center at UMDNJ, was VA Shiva Ayyadurai’s mentor and supervisor at the University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey (UMDNJ) in Newark, NJ, during 1978 to 1982. Dr.Leslie P.Michelson: [Continued next post] |
Re: Re-inventor Of EMAIL Challenge. by Amujale(m): 10:19am On Apr 14, 2020 |
Recollections of a Mentor and Colleague of a 14-Year-Old, Who Invented Email in Newark, NJ - continued. UMDNJ (CMDNJ) in 1978 Dr.Leslie P.Michelson:
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Re: Re-inventor Of EMAIL Challenge. by Amujale(m): 1:10pm On Apr 14, 2020 |
Butum sparked this challenge. How? I made a contribution to a politics thread concerning some important world health issues, and sought the assistance of other Nlanders in order for us to assist the African American community in the US. What I would deem a noble cause. A never mentioned Dr Shiva in the context of his invention of email. Butum, quoted my contribution and attached to it an article from Wikipedia. Just to be clear, I have so much respect for the great work the general public does in keeping us informed. For me, Wikipedia is one of the most reliable encyclopaedias anywhere on the internet, and these revelations doesn't change that. And the post didn't disappoint, the article expressed precisely how it is meant to read. Taking that into consideration, my response to butums post was measured. Amujale: Here was his response: budaatum: The response in the image below would later transpire into this challenge. Butum made it a point to highlight parts of his response. Especially the one that read: ... budatuum: V.A. Shiva Ayyadurai is not a member of the MIT faculty and did not invent email...
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Re: Re-inventor Of EMAIL Challenge. by Amujale(m): 1:25pm On Apr 14, 2020 |
budaatum: Yet, you still haven't taken down that slanderous quote: budatuum: V.A. Shiva Ayyadurai is not a member of the MIT faculty... |
Re: Re-inventor Of EMAIL Challenge. by budaatum: 1:38pm On Apr 14, 2020 |
Amujale:You clearly have an understanding problem amu, which you ought to resolve, because "attending MIT" does not apparently make one a "Member of MIT". But in case I'm wrong, please show me Shiva's name on the published list of Members. https://corporation.mit.edu/membership/all-members Do note however that whether he is a Member of MIT or not is irrelevant to this conversation which is about your claim he invented email. And as I said when this began, what you are posting as evidence is the same as posting Genesis as evidence God created the heavens and earth. Do let me know when you convince anyone.
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Re: Re-inventor Of EMAIL Challenge. by Amujale(m): 1:42pm On Apr 14, 2020 |
budaatum: It is disingenuous butum. I know exactly what you did there, a play of words. If it is irrelevant to the discussion, why is it highlighted? Highlighting something suggest that there's something we ought to be taking from it, or something that we ought not to miss. Anyway, we are waiting for your evidence. |
Re: Re-inventor Of EMAIL Challenge. by Amujale(m): 1:44pm On Apr 14, 2020 |
None of the detractors have been able to successfully refute the evidence. It all boils down to bigotry, discrimination, prejudice and the systematic abuse of influence and power. All the evidence presented here suggest that EMAIL is, Email, is email. They are all the same initial program that Dr Shiva helped to create. Given: A=Email, B = EMAIL For instance A because B cannot be factual unless both A and B are found to be the same thing, In the course of this challenge, I have been able to prove that A and B are the same program. The opposition to the fact that Dr Shiva invented email is based on an "affirmation of disjunct" Whereby, given A = EMAIL, B = Email Affirming a disjunct can take two forms: Accepting the first term and denying the second: P1: A or B is true. P2: A is true. C: B is false. Accepting the second term and denying the first: P1: A or B is true. P2: B is true. C: A is false Neither of the detractors and retractors from The Washington Post and Smithsonian have been unable to show any proof that contradicts: P1: A because of B is true P2: A is true P3: B is true What they 'insiders' have done is redefine the meaning of email to state it as a text message, electronic message. The person who invented email, already defined it during his initial project. Prior to 2012 and the campaign to literally attempt to rewrite history, everyone knows who invented email. As in, as proven here, all the major commentary and professional opinion that existed prior to 2012 and leading to the campaign that attempts to rewrite history has Dr V A Shiva as the person who invented Email. |
Re: Re-inventor Of EMAIL Challenge. by budaatum: 1:48pm On Apr 14, 2020 |
Amujale:Play of words, amu? You really are funny. As for evidence, I'm finding I do not need to waste my time with your assertions, yet, since you have not convinced anyone, yet. Do let me know when that changes. |
Re: Re-inventor Of EMAIL Challenge. by Amujale(m): 1:48pm On Apr 14, 2020 |
No one can represent themselves better than themselves: Here I present to the thread Dr V A Shiva Ayyadurai given a more complete and rounded synopsis of all the evidence presented here. Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai holds four degrees from MIT, including a Ph.D, and is a world-renowned systems scientist, inventor and entrepreneur. He is founder and CEO of multiple successful businesses including CytoSolve, Systems Health and EchoMail. He has published in major scientific journals such as IEEE, Nature Neuroscience and CELL's Biophysical Journal, and has authored ten books, including the just-released The Future of Email (General Interactive, LLC, Nov. 2016) which discusses the history of email, its present and its future. The email discussion ends around the 1hr and 9 minute marker of the video and then he goes into talk about his other inventions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtREzhEdmuI |
Re: Re-inventor Of EMAIL Challenge. by budaatum: 1:56pm On Apr 14, 2020 |
Amujale:You highlighted it. And unfortunately for you it turns out I am right that Shiva Ayyadurai is not a Member of MIT as you can see for yourself, he is not on the list of Members of MIT and I doubt he ever was a Member. But despite my being right, I still maintain it is irrelevant to the discussion at hand, despite your foiled attempts to make it the point. Still can't work out why you went from Shiva invented email, to he "re-invented email" according to your thread topic. Were you being "disingenuous" or just "playing with words"? |
Re: Re-inventor Of EMAIL Challenge. by Amujale(m): 2:28pm On Apr 14, 2020 |
LordReed: Amujale: budaatum: |
Re: Re-inventor Of EMAIL Challenge. by Amujale(m): 2:32pm On Apr 14, 2020 |
budaatum: That is a blattant lie butum. I took a scrernshot of yout post. Have you even bothered to go back and check your own post? You arent getting my point, that was the reason for the challenge in the first instance. Highlighting a point that has no relevance to the invention of email is misleading and frankly wrong. Its one thing for you to want to argue for the fun of it, its anothher thing to try and play with words so as to insinuate that he didnt attend MIT. Answer these simple questions. Is being a current member of the faculty of MIT a prerequisite for inventing email? Where does 'V.A. Shiva Ayyadurai is not a member of the MIT faculty..." fit into the discussion? Lets assume that you werent trying to pull a fast one, by attempting to misinform the reader, what is the reason to bring that up? I spotted what you did instantly. |
Re: Re-inventor Of EMAIL Challenge. by budaatum: 3:30pm On Apr 14, 2020 |
Amujale:Please see where the post you quoted, which is true, came from. No, whether "V.A. Shiva Ayyadurai is a member of the MIT faculty" is not a "prerequisite for inventing email", and I am not offering it as one. It just so turns out that V.A. Shiva Ayyadurai is not a member of the MIT faculty and he did not invent email, and claiming he is/was a Member of MIT is just another lie, which goes to the credibility of whoever he says he was and whatever you claim he invented or "re-invented".
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Re: Re-inventor Of EMAIL Challenge. by budaatum: 3:34pm On Apr 14, 2020 |
LordReed:https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20190518/23370542236/laying-out-all-evidence-shiva-ayyadurai-did-not-invent-email.shtml https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/09/07/email_inventor_has_libel_lawsuit_tossed/
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Re: Re-inventor Of EMAIL Challenge. by Amujale(m): 4:13pm On Apr 14, 2020 |
budaatum: You highlighted the text, eventhough it has no relevance to the discussion✔ The above statement has no relevance to the discussion ✔ budaatum: Since we both agree that the above statement has no relevance to the topic, i have no interest in whether he is/was a Member of MIT. I never once claimed he was or wasnt a member of MIT, it has no relevance. I said he holds multiple degrees from MIT including a PH.d. |
Re: Re-inventor Of EMAIL Challenge. by Amujale(m): 4:45pm On Apr 14, 2020 |
LordReed: BOSTON, Jan. 4, 2017 /PRNewswire/ -- Gawker Media has paid Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai a $750,000 settlement payment and later this month will permanently remove its libelous article about him, which denied Dr. Ayyadurai's invention of email. Harder Mirell & Abrams LLP There is no reasonable dispute that Dr. Ayyadurai is the inventor of email. The full press kit contains more than 20 testimonials from leading technology experts and numerous Ph.D.s. The press kit also includes two extensive research papers prepared by well-respected academic university professors and scientists explaining why Dr. Ayyadurai is the inventor of email, and how the few doubters are wrong. https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/gawker-media-pays-dr-shiva-ayyadurai-inventor-of-email-750000-settlement-300385899.html https://www.inventorofemail.com/thefacts/ In the same year, he filed a lawsuit against Techdirt's parent company Floor64 as well as editor Mike Masnick and journalist Leigh Beadon, alleged libel, intentional interference with prospective economic advantage, and intentional infliction of emotional distress. here is the summation: In dismissing the suit, Judge Saylor did not specifically address the issue of who or who didn't invent email, but rather found that there is enough doubt about the origin of the system that Techdirt's criticism of Ayyadurai could not be demonstrated as false and libelous. "The articles at issue do not dispute that plaintiff created an email system. Rather, they dispute whether plaintiff should properly be characterized as the inventor of email based on that creation," Judge Saylor wrote. "Accordingly, it is not clear that the allegations in the complaint are sufficient to show that the statements at issue are false. In any event, even assuming that the allegations of falsity are sufficient, the challenged statements are nonetheless protected under the First Amendment." Additionally, Judge Saylor reasoned, the ambiguity of what exactly email is makes it all the more impossible for Ayyadurai to prove his case, and pushes the articles further into the realm of protected speech. "Whether plaintiff's claim to have invented email is 'fake' depends upon the operative definition of 'email'," the ruling reads. "Because that definition does not have a single, objectively correct answer, the claim is incapable of being proved true or false." Based on all the evidence in front of us. Basically, the interpretation of the judgement is this: We aren’t disputing whether Dr Shiva did or didn’t invent the EMAIL, it is allowed for anyone to say he didn’t under the freedom of speech ACT. Conclusion, noone has been able to refute the validity of the fact that Dr Shiva invented Email, the courts made it clear that they werent going to even go there, rather they threw out the lawsuit under the freedom of speech Act. The unsuccessful lawsuit is not evidence nor does it affect the validity of Dr Shiva's invention, instead it was a victory for Free speech. In order to affect the validity of Dr Shiva's accomplishment, one would have to provide evidence that contradicts the irrefutable facts that proves him as the sole inventor of Email. pronubian: The firms that were being sued, coluded with insiders so as to move the goal post - abusing their influence and power and sought to redefine the inventors own meaning of Email to suit their agenda. |
Re: Re-inventor Of EMAIL Challenge. by budaatum: 5:24pm On Apr 14, 2020 |
Amujale:Not true, amu. Dr Shiva did not "win a $750,000 lawsuit against Gawker". Gawker settled. There's a difference. 1 Like |
Re: Re-inventor Of EMAIL Challenge. by Amujale(m): 5:43pm On Apr 14, 2020 |
budaatum: That's correct, Gawker settled $750,000 BOSTON, Jan. 4, 2017 /PRNewswire/ -- Gawker Media has paid Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai a $750,000 settlement payment and later this month will permanently remove its libelous article about him, which denied Dr. Ayyadurai's invention of email. https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/gawker-media-pays-dr-shiva-ayyadurai-inventor-of-email-750000-settlement-300385899.html
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